Note: The glass of the Feuerhand comes from the German company SCHOTT, which has been around since 1884 and is known primarily for the production of special glass and glass ceramics for industry and pharmaceuticals. You can't get better quality than this.
Your pronounciation of "Feuerhand" is WAY BETTER FOR MY GERMAN EARS than in your previous Video ;)))) Anyway good Video about a basic item. Thank you man.
I like your correct pronunciation of Feuerhand :-) Greating from Germany. Have some Dietz-Lanterns with different sizes and some Feuerhand-Lanterns, and one rare jewel of an old Petromax-Lantern. This lanterns give a warm, cosy light.
If you want a Dietz lantern, buy a good used one from the days they were made in the USA. Even if the tank leaks, it is easily repaired permanently with one of the good tank sealers such as Red-Kote. With any other repairs needed, the metal is usually think enough to make the lantern like new again. Thank you for your excellent video.
The last two Feurhand I bought had problems with the screw on lid and was dripping kerosene. Have had at least 20 of them though. Maybe their quality also have dropped
I have a couple of the old style oil lamps with the glass chimneys. I usually keep a couple gallons of lamp fuel on hand and extra wicks in case of long term power outages. I don’t have any of the hurricane lanterns but I’ll definitely get the German one if I do
When I woke up this morning, I never thought I would order a Feuerhand Lantern. Matter of fact, I didn't think lantern at all. But because of your video, I just ordered one (11/13/24). Got it from W. T. Kirkman Lanterns, lot cheaper than Amazon.
I have two modern Feuerhand 276 Baby Special lanterns and I love them... Probably will last as long as I don't submerge them in acid for 6 months. They are small though. Feuerhand needs to make something bigger for sure, a lantern that uses a 7/8 wick!
Nice In strong winds you need the "Feuerhand Sturmkappe", this lamp head is designed to be storm-proof. I still have 4 Baby 276 with storm caps from the Army and take very good care of them. I have a lot of kerosene lanterns, after the 276 Baby, with Sturmkappe, comes very close the Dietz Air pilot
For the Feuerhand you are able to get two different glasses one is the clear one, the other one is milkglas. And you are able to buy all kinds of spareparts for the lamp .
You make informative videos thanks. So, actually those are correctly referred to as tubular lanterns. Those are each the "cold blast" versions. If you want a really good lantern may I suggest an antique made before 1950 and as far back as 1890. A good lantern of this era is an Embury no. 2. It has a large fount or reservoir. Also a 3/4" wick. Replacement parts are readily available. The flame should be adjusted to the point of little or no smoke. A basic height is about 1/4" above the cone. This may seem incorrect. You should be able to run your lantern for quite a long time, days, weeks, months without having to clean the inside of the globe. Both of your lanterns in this video are turned up way high.
You can find the older Dietz lanterns (Pre 1950's) that were made in America in antique shops and various online selling venues, but you need to know what you're looking for. I wouldn't buy any Dietz that was not made in the USA. The old ones have that stamped on the metal and glass parts. The old ones made in the USA are very good quality. I picked one up last weekend locally for $15. Once I cleaned it up, it was basically like brand new. My understanding is that when WW2 occurred, they had to use a cheaper metal due to the war effort, which meant they had to coat them with paint to prevent rust. Anyways, I loved the video. I live very close to Lehmans Hardware (Kidron, OH) there is a large population of Amish in the area and they cater a lot of their products to the amish style of liv9ng off grid. Great store!
Great video! Not that I was going to buy a Dietz anyway but after watching your Feuerhand vs Chinese one and this one, you've convinced me to buy one, in military green though 😍😎
-Wick size makes a big difference. And Dietz (even the new China ones) are pretty good lanterns. -Everybody - please always do a leak test on even NEW fonts before you fill them up with lamp oil. To can seal a leaky one with gas tank sealer. -I don't know why anyone would have a lantern and not want to maximize light output, so that is why I'm still partial to the Dietz models with the 7/8 wicks. D-Lite, Blizzard, Jupiter 2500, etc.
I know feurhands is superior in terms of fit and finish + glass quality, but the jingoistic, borderline bigoted response to affordable, reasonable quality Chinese product is hilarious and sad.
I use these lanterns for ambience in my back yard and own a number of both. I enjoy all of them but the feuerhand lanterns are noticeably better quality and are my favorite even if the light output is slightly less because as stated I use them for ambience and not concerned about the slight difference in brightness.
Bought both after your first review and received both a week ago, actually same color too by chance… You are 100% correct the Feuerhand is better, especially the glass is clearer.. the Deitz has a sharp edge on the round of the wick dial.. Good review. 👍🏻. PS you’d swear you get more light out of the smaller one, maybe just,an optical illusion because of the difference of the glass… Also due to the 1/8” smaller wick they probably have similar burn time. Like your video shows the shape of the flame on the Feuerhand is nicer. Maybe trimming could get them closer. Cheers
First, congratulations on you improved pronunciation of Feuerhand since your previous video, still not great but I can tell that you are trying. LOL. I am in my mid-sixties and kerosene lanterns were a thing in rural areas when I was a child. My Grandfather did not say "kerosene" he said "coal oil". The light that they put out is warm and friendly, much more so than any LED lantern. Your video prompred me to buy a lantern, a Feuerhand to be exact. The difference in quality is readily evident both to see and to hear in the video. One thing I came across in looking for a lantern was a Czech lantern called "Meva". I would expect the quality to be on par with the German lantern. Would you be interested in doing a video adding a Meva to the comparison? Thanks again for your videos.
I had a small dietz comet for camping and my shed it was pretty good but after several years it rusted through the tank and I had to throw it away. Now I just have 2 tabletop oil lamps. I keep looking at the Aladdin lamps maybe someday I will pull the trigger on one
With nearly 60 years experience using hurricane lamps of many “breeds & sizes”, in my opinion, it basically comes down to personal choice. By this I mean that each lamp requires a personal touch so to speak. Depending on the fuel you are using, paraffin, kerosene or citronella will require different tuning. Over the years it all comes natural to the user, but I’ll say this, they work great with citronella as bug repellent devices. We would use 4 on the row boat when estuary fishing at night and no bugs. Equally, in later years when we moved inland, riverbank fishing only required 2. My parents both grew up without electricity as kids so they were pretty darn good at wick trimming and could fine tune the wick to give different shaped flame for different purposes, flat, triangle or rounded. I’m getting on in years now but we still have 7 or 8 floating around the house, youngest is about 30 years old, my brothers “stole” the older ones 😂😂 (around 80 years old). You put a bloody bee in my bonnet now 😂, I’ll have have to fire some up for the grandkids because the last time I used the was when the eldest was about 2 and that was 17 years ago 😂😂 (showing my age now). Cheers to you my friend, thanks for posting. All the best from downunder 👋👋👋
I am still with the old brass piano lamp my parents inherited decades ago. (A piano lamp has the gas tank offset to the side. If you put it on top of the piano case, you can have the wick and the screen giving light from above to your score and your keyboard.)
I also have both, but, my Feurhand is the larger of the two. Yes, both are older models made in the 1940's. And yes the larger one puts out more light, duh. For real light get a center draft with the circular mantles. Aladdin are the most common but I have an older one that works just as well. The Aladdins also can be haed with the mantles whicch are extremely bright (think Coleman camping lanterns). A step up is the larger circular mantle types called shop or store lights.
I got two Dietz oil lamps, and left them on my balcony for a winter. No direct rain, but road salt is abundant around here. They both got a bit of rust, even inside the cradle, just after one winter.
I love my Feuerhand lanterns and they also have a more classic look than the Dietz. You can actually see the difference in quality between the two from a distance.
Dietz lanterns were made here in Syracuse, New York. There are still many of the older lanterns found in antique shops around Central New York. I have several. Certainly a quality lantern. Sad that they sold out overseas. They would do well if they could make them back in the States. Make America great again.
Dietz started production in the far east in the 1950s under a Republican president. Donald Trump who came up with the tagline you put at the end of your comment, gets his merchandise made in the far east as well. Including tacky $100,000 watches because he’s a massive hypocrite.
The Feuerhand is galvanised and powder coated. That is what you should buy. There are also Feuerhand lanterns that are only galvanised, I can not recommand them, they tend to rust. My deep Blue one has no rust at all after years of (outdoor-) use.
Enjoyed the video. Good comparisons. Kirkman makes a Dietz clone with a few upgraded features but it still is inferior to the Fuerhand. The first difference I noticed was the fuel fill cap. The Fuerhand screwed on and off very securely. But the Kirkman felt a little mushy. If I wasn’t careful, it seemed like I could easily cross thread the cap.
As an avid lantern collector myself I actually like both of them, the quality of the Feuerhand is great but also the performance and history of the R.E. Dietz company lantern as well as their American made lanterns to me it’s pretty much a toss up but do appreciate the video and your conclusion 👍
1:30 I bought the silver colored "Feuerhand" for $47 (Ebay}. Ironically, all the other colors were $10 more, except the "speckled iron," which cost even more!
Also, every Dietz lantern I own leaks. It "seeps" out around the seam on the bottom of the resevior. My Feuerhand is Guaranteed to NOT leak and it never has! I LOVE them!
I have found old Dietz from way back that were used by The City of LA, and some of the Railroads. They look the same (basically) on the outside but seem to be of much better quality. I wish a lantern expert would interject here and let us know when and what Dietz lanterns were USA made. I didn't know about Feuerhand until this RUclips. German engineering and the old world craftsmanship never disappoints!
I believe Dietz stopped US production in 1956, and moved manufacturing to Hong Kong. The older US made Dietz lanterns are high quality lifetime(if cared for properly) lamps. You can still find vintage working order US made Dietz lamps for sale at a reasonable price, sometimes cheaper than the Chinese cheap trash.
Feuerhand Has Better Quality But Basically Only Comes In Two Models And The One You Have Is The Only Model You Actually Can Find. Dietz However Comes In Many Models And Sizes.
For me the number of models a brand makes has no bearing on what I would choose to purchase. It’s the quality of construction that contributes to my decision-making.
Howdy---if you want a good-quality Hurricane lamp try a W.T Kirkman #2 C.B.---mine is over 10-15 years old now--still working as good as the day i bought it. sad part for you is not much in color choice. lol.
Dietz are also Chinese these days. I ordered one of theirs first due to brand recognition from the past. Long story short, it was junk, so I went with the German made Fire Hand. Cheers.
I think in the house for looking at Dietz for me is the win. More light more heat and looks better on the mantel. But, I totally agree with the Feuerhand is made better. I would like to have a few of these for as you said I could use camping in snow not worry about globe break. Again the glass in the Dietz is not impressive. Mine was getting scratches just trying to mess with it first use.
If my recall is working today, the Dietz No.8 Air Pilot is the only original Dietz design still in production, though there are other later models produced. Not sure if that would make a difference. I have an old No 8 made in the USA that is a very good light. Sadly, all are imports now.
Thanks for the comparison. Is there still a 'W' in front of 'Germany' on the Feuerhand housing? The W. Stands for West Germany. Little story! As a jung man, I worked for the Nier company (original manufacturer) of this lantern. At the time I was told that the W had been removed, but there were questions from customers (miners) who wants to know if it was still the unchanged original. I'm not sure if the story is true, but the W came back on the lantern.😂
I'd agree with you that Freuhand is a much better built lantern, I've got several and they will last generations. I also have several Deitz lanterns. And of those my favorite is the little Wizzard with the larger fuel tank. The Deitz little wizard is probably the smoothest working of all the deitz.
If you are using an oil lantern at all in this age and in an advanced country, it's at least partly for sentiment. The quality of the Feuerhand just makes using it feel better.
my 2 cent on knowing how to carry these type lanterns when walking out side or inside----carry the lantern with arm hanging down normal you will see it is best not to carry lantern at eye-chest level as i see many do.
Feuerhand is german over enginering at its finest. Classic design (focus durable), immortal in the hands of someone with a "I can fix her attitude" and efficient in doing its job.
Ordered the Feuerhand from Amazon in the galvanized version today after watching your videos. Cheaper and some people say the powder coated models can be finicky as to smooth operation. Off the subject but how do you like your Bluetti generator?
I bought a feuehand lantern after your first vid. I had about 8 Dietz lanterns prior, bought about 5 years ago. My 5 year old Air Pilot was my favorite but after buying the feuehand, i bought a brand new Air Pilot for $30 and it's total junk. I now have 4 feuehand lanterns and they are the best. They just seal better and you can crank them up. I disagree with you on the flame, i think the feuehand has a whiter, hotter flame and they sip fuel compared to the Dietz.
I restore old lanterns. The old American made lanterns are excellent. I prefer the Embury lanterns I think they are better than the Dietz but I do have a lot of Dietz lanterns as well. I have one that was my grandfathers that was made in 1906, not my oldest lantern but still cool to have a lantern that was used by my grandfather.
Cheap petroleum lanterns are sometimes even available in China on Aliexpress for 2.95 euros! The normal price is somewhere between 8 and 14 euros. I trust the experience of the German Feuerhand lanterns, which were bought by PETROMAX after their 100th anniversary, but continue to operate in Germany with the old machines and the old patents. BUT Feuerhand lanterns are not “liquid-tight” either, as a user you have to know that. But I was able to buy a new Feuerhand Baby Special 276, a transport bag, a large additional reflector and 1 liter of petroleum for 50 euros on eBay!
I have never seen a feuerhand in germany, we use Petromax that may or may not been stolen when in mandatory service. They are much much brighter, very sturdy and they made all kinds of add-ons for them for heat, cooking, etc.
That's a weird thing to say, because you can find Feuerhand lamps everywhere. Petromax is also nice, but way more expensive and a complete different system. Since the fuel is under pressure and it uses a gas mantle and not just a wick.
I appreciate and agree with all your observations on quality issues. The Chinese clones are really cheap feeling. HOWEVER, the idea of "handing one down for generations" is delusional. This isn't the 19th century.
Funny thing is I'm pretty sure that Mr. Dietz was a German as well. 😂 "Dietz" can be only a german name cause of the ie ( for a long pronunciation of an (i) and the tz on the end.
The Feuerhand is very small compared what you can get from Dietz, esp the #80. The Dietz wins because it produces more light, which is the reason to have a lantern.
I have several Feuerhand lanterns. The laterns are made by a small german company in Magdeburg. btw, the numbers in the (276) is the average burntime of the lantern.
276 has a factory stated burn time of 20 hours. The number merely replaced the earlier 275 model with a burntime of 12 hours. The smaller & earlier 175 model stated 14 hours. I have a 276 with extended font giving a stated burn time of 72 hours, although by turning the flame down, mine ran for exactly a fortnight or 336 hour. There was even an "Atom" 75 model which is even smaller. The giveway "Made in West Germany" denotes post WW2 variants, whereas pre-war models state " Made in Germany".
@@GearGadgetReviews Feuerhand has it's own channel on RUclips showing their range of products and how they're produced. ruclips.net/video/WgCc6gdCC24/видео.htmlsi=otg3a-spHY6bHCGt (English subtitles available 😉)
Everytime an "old" company is sold to a new owner the quality gets more worse ! I own a german Dual turntable from the seventies (Dual CS 1229) and it still works fine. Clearly it was maintained, when needed. Years ago I bought a Dual CS 435 from the 90s for my daughter and after 2 ½ years the motor broke down. A company from France called Thompson-Brand was reponsible for that rubbish ! When Mr. Postman handed me the package, I first thougt it was empty. 😢 The whole turntable weighed about 3 Kilogramms, only the platter of my old Dual weights the same.
If you want a good Dietz buy vintage USA made. Ebay has a lot of them for sale.They all have dates up until 1970. After 1970 they were made in New York still with quality and heavier metal then moved to Hong Kong in1982 and then china. The china ones are lightweight crap. Ones made in NY are stamped so on top of the tank in big letters.
just a shame the Feuerhand comes only in small ... and that the real king of german storm lanterns Petromax HK500 is extremely expensive these days, no matter if new or old.
"Feuer" vom Feuerhand ist german for "Fire". So: Firehand in english Greets from Germany btw: The HK500 is in another Dimension. And way more complicated.
Dietz just isn't "Dietz" anymore. I've got a variety of antique cold-blast lanterns and the old Dietz is much better than the modern Chinese-made junk. I picked up a modern brand-new Dietz "Little Wizard" and the font leaked kerosene through the seams. That would never happen with the older models. The old Dietz train signal lamps, both high-top and low top, were darn near bulletproof.
Comparing ease of use, noise, longevity and ease of maintenance, I would definitely prefer the type of lantern shown in this video. Sure, the body etc of a petromax is quite durable, but the seals, the pump, the sock, all these parts need to be constantly changed out. With these type of lanterns, you load a piece of good quality wick and you won't have to change it for a year or two if its used daily. Plus I can't stand the constant roar of a petromax, might as well go for a butane lamp and forego the stink of a petromax. Fuel versatility wise a petromax does win though.
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The glass of the Feuerhand comes from the German company SCHOTT, which has been around since 1884 and is known primarily for the production of special glass and glass ceramics for industry and pharmaceuticals. You can't get better quality than this.
not to forget, they also produce the glass for Ceran-stoves. The company is famous for their very surable glass
You can even get indestructible Schott Glas Bongs for smoking.
Your pronounciation of "Feuerhand" is WAY BETTER FOR MY GERMAN EARS than in your previous Video ;)))) Anyway good Video about a basic item. Thank you man.
Ich hab tatsächlich verstanden was er gesagt hat. Im ersten Video war ich so verwirrt xD
The Feuerhand ( Fire Hand ) is first Galvanised and then Powder Coated, NOT Painted, hope that helps.
I got a Feuerhand from 1943. And it works just fine.
In Germany it's 28€ + 5€ delivery. Thanks for the videos.
I like your correct pronunciation of Feuerhand :-) Greating from Germany.
Have some Dietz-Lanterns with different sizes and some Feuerhand-Lanterns, and one rare jewel of an old Petromax-Lantern. This lanterns give a warm, cosy light.
Yes the Petromax lanterns are great as well. Actually he should test them too.
If you want a Dietz lantern, buy a good used one from the days they were made in the USA. Even if the tank leaks, it is easily repaired permanently with one of the good tank sealers such as Red-Kote. With any other repairs needed, the metal is usually think enough to make the lantern like new again. Thank you for your excellent video.
Dietz was once a quality made American product. Today the Dietz name sits on Chinese made garbage. Feuerhand is the only quality hurricane lamp left.
Yup. That's for sure. I bought a modern Dietz Little Wizard and the font leaked. Terrible manufacturing.
nope, the real king of quality and performance is the Petromax HK500 (also german) ... if you have around 300 bucks.
The last two Feurhand I bought had problems with the screw on lid and was dripping kerosene. Have had at least 20 of them though. Maybe their quality also have dropped
Id argue that dietz is still good for the money, better than other brands like stansport for example
I'm tired of chi-nah !
I have a couple of the old style oil lamps with the glass chimneys. I usually keep a couple gallons of lamp fuel on hand and extra wicks in case of long term power outages. I don’t have any of the hurricane lanterns but I’ll definitely get the German one if I do
Feuerhand needs to make larger sizes to cover more needs.
Agreed
Yes this! I'm looking for an extra large fount (2-3 days operation) with Feuerhand quality. The Dietz Jupiter seems to be hit or miss on quality.
They do, go find an antique
Feuerhand is basically Petromax. HK 500 is quite big.
@@Strandbacker so true so true
When I woke up this morning, I never thought I would order a Feuerhand Lantern. Matter of fact, I didn't think lantern at all. But because of your video, I just ordered one (11/13/24). Got it from W. T. Kirkman Lanterns, lot cheaper than Amazon.
Thanks for the comparison - I have had my eye on the Feuerhand - I may have to grab me one of those...
The Feuerhand is galvanized and then is powder coated. It's also available in a galvanized version only.
Yes & there's a whole range of colours too.
I have two modern Feuerhand 276 Baby Special lanterns and I love them... Probably will last as long as I don't submerge them in acid for 6 months. They are small though. Feuerhand needs to make something bigger for sure, a lantern that uses a 7/8 wick!
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In strong winds you need the "Feuerhand Sturmkappe", this lamp head is designed to be storm-proof. I still have 4 Baby 276 with storm caps from the Army and take very good care of them.
I have a lot of kerosene lanterns, after the 276 Baby, with Sturmkappe, comes very close the Dietz Air pilot
For the Feuerhand you are able to get two different glasses one is the clear one, the other one is milkglas. And you are able to buy all kinds of spareparts for the lamp .
You make informative videos thanks. So, actually those are correctly referred to as tubular lanterns. Those are each the "cold blast" versions. If you want a really good lantern may I suggest an antique made before 1950 and as far back as 1890. A good lantern of this era is an Embury no. 2. It has a large fount or reservoir. Also a 3/4" wick. Replacement parts are readily available. The flame should be adjusted to the point of little or no smoke. A basic height is about 1/4" above the cone. This may seem incorrect. You should be able to run your lantern for quite a long time, days, weeks, months without having to clean the inside of the globe. Both of your lanterns in this video are turned up way high.
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I recently acquired a olive green fuerhand and a green dietz 76 and I love both.
The Feuerhand is OK. You get it for under 20 USD in Germany if you look around a bit. Worth the price.
I don’t think those are handles on the side. They are part of the air chamber for taking in fresh air. They are a cold blast type lantern.
They carry flame- heated air down to the flame!
You can find the older Dietz lanterns (Pre 1950's) that were made in America in antique shops and various online selling venues, but you need to know what you're looking for. I wouldn't buy any Dietz that was not made in the USA. The old ones have that stamped on the metal and glass parts. The old ones made in the USA are very good quality. I picked one up last weekend locally for $15. Once I cleaned it up, it was basically like brand new. My understanding is that when WW2 occurred, they had to use a cheaper metal due to the war effort, which meant they had to coat them with paint to prevent rust. Anyways, I loved the video. I live very close to Lehmans Hardware (Kidron, OH) there is a large population of Amish in the area and they cater a lot of their products to the amish style of liv9ng off grid. Great store!
Great video! Not that I was going to buy a Dietz anyway but after watching your Feuerhand vs Chinese one and this one, you've convinced me to buy one, in military green though 😍😎
-Wick size makes a big difference. And Dietz (even the new China ones) are pretty good lanterns.
-Everybody - please always do a leak test on even NEW fonts before you fill them up with lamp oil. To can seal a leaky one with gas tank sealer.
-I don't know why anyone would have a lantern and not want to maximize light output, so that is why I'm still partial to the Dietz models with the 7/8 wicks. D-Lite, Blizzard, Jupiter 2500, etc.
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I know feurhands is superior in terms of fit and finish + glass quality, but the jingoistic, borderline bigoted response to affordable, reasonable quality Chinese product is hilarious and sad.
I use these lanterns for ambience in my back yard and own a number of both. I enjoy all of them but the feuerhand lanterns are noticeably better quality and are my favorite even if the light output is slightly less because as stated I use them for ambience and not concerned about the slight difference in brightness.
Bought both after your first review and received both a week ago, actually same color too by chance… You are 100% correct the Feuerhand is better, especially the glass is clearer.. the Deitz has a sharp edge on the round of the wick dial.. Good review. 👍🏻. PS you’d swear you get more light out of the smaller one, maybe just,an optical illusion because of the difference of the glass… Also due to the 1/8” smaller wick they probably have similar burn time. Like your video shows the shape of the flame on the Feuerhand is nicer. Maybe trimming could get them closer. Cheers
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I have used Feuerhand for decades. In the last year - months appart - I bought two. Both had problems with the screw lid. Not tight
Glad I saw this before I made a decision. I'm also looking at Thous Winds - could be your next review!
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Petromax HK500 if you want the ultimate in German lanterns....but it's almost 10 times more expensive than the Feurhand
I’m eyeballing those
So Worth the Price. It is bloody bright .
@@GearGadgetReviews The Coleman-variety of pressurized Kerosene-lanterns isn't bad either. And probably MUCH cheaper in the USA than any Petromax.
@@GearGadgetReviews Guess you're a lantern reviewer now, weird niche
@@19ghost73 The Petromax HK500 has 400W light output.
First, congratulations on you improved pronunciation of Feuerhand since your previous video, still not great but I can tell that you are trying. LOL. I am in my mid-sixties and kerosene lanterns were a thing in rural areas when I was a child. My Grandfather did not say "kerosene" he said "coal oil". The light that they put out is warm and friendly, much more so than any LED lantern. Your video prompred me to buy a lantern, a Feuerhand to be exact. The difference in quality is readily evident both to see and to hear in the video. One thing I came across in looking for a lantern was a Czech lantern called "Meva". I would expect the quality to be on par with the German lantern. Would you be interested in doing a video adding a Meva to the comparison? Thanks again for your videos.
The Feuerhand is galavanized which prevents it from rusting.
I had a small dietz comet for camping and my shed it was pretty good but after several years it rusted through the tank and I had to throw it away. Now I just have 2 tabletop oil lamps. I keep looking at the Aladdin lamps maybe someday I will pull the trigger on one
With nearly 60 years experience using hurricane lamps of many “breeds & sizes”, in my opinion, it basically comes down to personal choice. By this I mean that each lamp requires a personal touch so to speak. Depending on the fuel you are using, paraffin, kerosene or citronella will require different tuning. Over the years it all comes natural to the user, but I’ll say this, they work great with citronella as bug repellent devices.
We would use 4 on the row boat when estuary fishing at night and no bugs. Equally, in later years when we moved inland, riverbank fishing only required 2.
My parents both grew up without electricity as kids so they were pretty darn good at wick trimming and could fine tune the wick to give different shaped flame for different purposes, flat, triangle or rounded.
I’m getting on in years now but we still have 7 or 8 floating around the house, youngest is about 30 years old, my brothers “stole” the older ones 😂😂 (around 80 years old).
You put a bloody bee in my bonnet now 😂, I’ll have have to fire some up for the grandkids because the last time I used the was when the eldest was about 2 and that was 17 years ago 😂😂 (showing my age now).
Cheers to you my friend, thanks for posting.
All the best from downunder 👋👋👋
I am still with the old brass piano lamp my parents inherited decades ago. (A piano lamp has the gas tank offset to the side. If you put it on top of the piano case, you can have the wick and the screen giving light from above to your score and your keyboard.)
Personally I would just get an old embury #2 air pilot nice streamlined lamp. I think embury made about the best lamps.
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I also have both, but, my Feurhand is the larger of the two. Yes, both are older models made in the 1940's. And yes the larger one puts out more light, duh.
For real light get a center draft with the circular mantles. Aladdin are the most common but I have an older one that works just as well. The Aladdins also can be haed with the mantles whicch are extremely bright (think Coleman camping lanterns).
A step up is the larger circular mantle types called shop or store lights.
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I got two Dietz oil lamps, and left them on my balcony for a winter. No direct rain, but road salt is abundant around here. They both got a bit of rust, even inside the cradle, just after one winter.
I love my Feuerhand lanterns and they also have a more classic look than the Dietz. You can actually see the difference in quality between the two from a distance.
Dietz lanterns were made here in Syracuse, New York. There are still many of the older lanterns found in antique shops around Central New York. I have several. Certainly a quality lantern. Sad that they sold out overseas.
They would do well if they could make them back in the States.
Make America great again.
Dietz started production in the far east in the 1950s under a Republican president. Donald Trump who came up with the tagline you put at the end of your comment, gets his merchandise made in the far east as well. Including tacky $100,000 watches because he’s a massive hypocrite.
Agreed.
The Feuerhand is galvanised and powder coated. That is what you should buy. There are also Feuerhand lanterns that are only galvanised, I can not recommand them, they tend to rust. My deep Blue one has no rust at all after years of (outdoor-) use.
Enjoyed the video. Good comparisons. Kirkman makes a Dietz clone with a few upgraded features but it still is inferior to the Fuerhand. The first difference I noticed was the fuel fill cap. The Fuerhand screwed on and off very securely. But the Kirkman felt a little mushy. If I wasn’t careful, it seemed like I could easily cross thread the cap.
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have myself a Petromax since years, like this things
As an avid lantern collector myself I actually like both of them, the quality of the Feuerhand is great but also the performance and history of the R.E. Dietz company lantern as well as their American made lanterns to me it’s pretty much a toss up but do appreciate the video and your conclusion 👍
1:30 I bought the silver colored "Feuerhand" for $47 (Ebay}. Ironically, all the other colors were $10 more, except the "speckled iron," which cost even more!
It all comes down to the flame and will it burn 🔥 true. And walk out into the rain 🌧️
😊 Feuerhand has a better unit
You just say it, u can give it somedays to your kids, thats allways a sign for best quality!
Jaaa! Deutsche Qualität!❤
Also, every Dietz lantern I own leaks. It "seeps" out around the seam on the bottom of the resevior. My Feuerhand is Guaranteed to NOT leak and it never has! I LOVE them!
I have found old Dietz from way back that were used by The City of LA, and some of the Railroads. They look the same (basically) on the outside but seem to be of much better quality. I wish a lantern expert would interject here and let us know when and what Dietz lanterns were USA made. I didn't know about Feuerhand until this RUclips. German engineering and the old world craftsmanship never disappoints!
Thanks!
I believe Dietz stopped US production in 1956, and moved manufacturing to Hong Kong. The older US made Dietz lanterns are high quality lifetime(if cared for properly) lamps. You can still find vintage working order US made Dietz lamps for sale at a reasonable price, sometimes cheaper than the Chinese cheap trash.
Feuerhand Has Better Quality But Basically Only Comes In Two Models And The One You Have Is The Only Model You Actually Can Find. Dietz However Comes In Many Models And Sizes.
For me the number of models a brand makes has no bearing on what I would choose to purchase. It’s the quality of construction that contributes to my decision-making.
They make only one model now surely, the 276? I'd be interested to hear what the other model is please?
Enjoyable video thanks.
Howdy---if you want a good-quality Hurricane lamp try a W.T Kirkman #2 C.B.---mine is over 10-15 years old now--still working as good as the day i bought it. sad part for you is not much in color choice. lol.
Dietz are also Chinese these days. I ordered one of theirs first due to brand recognition from the past. Long story short, it was junk, so I went with the German made Fire Hand. Cheers.
I think in the house for looking at Dietz for me is the win. More light more heat and looks better on the mantel. But, I totally agree with the Feuerhand is made better. I would like to have a few of these for as you said I could use camping in snow not worry about globe break. Again the glass in the Dietz is not impressive. Mine was getting scratches just trying to mess with it first use.
Did you not notice when you put the glass down after lighting the firehand the light will get white that's why I love them 😅
If my recall is working today, the Dietz No.8 Air Pilot is the only original Dietz design still in production, though there are other later models produced. Not sure if that would make a difference. I have an old No 8 made in the USA that is a very good light. Sadly, all are imports now.
Thanks for the comparison. Is there still a 'W' in front of 'Germany' on the Feuerhand housing? The W. Stands for West Germany. Little story! As a jung man, I worked for the Nier company (original manufacturer) of this lantern. At the time I was told that the W had been removed, but there were questions from customers (miners) who wants to know if it was still the unchanged original. I'm not sure if the story is true, but the W came back on the lantern.😂
No. Why should there be a w on it? There is only one Germany, since some decades.
@@karlnovac1726Maybe it's still the old tool.
The Feuerhand is available in a silver zink-version. For those who want a lantern that lives longer than yourself.
I'd agree with you that Freuhand is a much better built lantern, I've got several and they will last generations. I also have several Deitz lanterns. And of those my favorite is the little Wizzard with the larger fuel tank. The Deitz little wizard is probably the smoothest working of all the deitz.
What's going on with the air holes on the bottom part of the chimney on the Dietz lamp? They seem unevenly spaced and randomly placed.
If you are using an oil lantern at all in this age and in an advanced country, it's at least partly for sentiment. The quality of the Feuerhand just makes using it feel better.
In the UK Deitz is £20 to £40 dearer than the Feuerhand on Amazon
my 2 cent on knowing how to carry these type lanterns when walking out side or inside----carry the lantern with arm hanging down normal you will see it is best not to carry lantern at eye-chest level as i see many do.
Feuerhand is german over enginering at its finest.
Classic design (focus durable),
immortal in the hands of someone with a "I can fix her attitude"
and efficient in doing its job.
I would chose the lantern with better light out put because that is the whole purpose with the lanterns.
Always a slap in the face when some conglomerate company buys out a company with a good name and makes them a zombi brand.
I have a Dietz from the early 1900s it's bail is the same as the one you have.
Do they have the GERMAN lamp in a nice GREEN? That purple hurts my eyes!
Ordered the Feuerhand from Amazon in the galvanized version today after watching your videos. Cheaper and some people say the powder coated models can be finicky as to smooth operation. Off the subject but how do you like your Bluetti generator?
Coleman lanterns are still made in Wichita Kansas
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I bought a feuehand lantern after your first vid. I had about 8 Dietz lanterns prior, bought about 5 years ago.
My 5 year old Air Pilot was my favorite but after buying the feuehand, i bought a brand new Air Pilot for $30 and it's total junk.
I now have 4 feuehand lanterns and they are the best. They just seal better and you can crank them up.
I disagree with you on the flame, i think the feuehand has a whiter, hotter flame and they sip fuel compared to the Dietz.
I restore old lanterns. The old American made lanterns are excellent. I prefer the Embury lanterns I think they are better than the Dietz but I do have a lot of Dietz lanterns as well. I have one that was my grandfathers that was made in 1906, not my oldest lantern but still cool to have a lantern that was used by my grandfather.
Cheap petroleum lanterns are sometimes even available in China on Aliexpress for 2.95 euros! The normal price is somewhere between 8 and 14 euros. I trust the experience of the German Feuerhand lanterns, which were bought by PETROMAX after their 100th anniversary, but continue to operate in Germany with the old machines and the old patents. BUT Feuerhand lanterns are not “liquid-tight” either, as a user you have to know that. But I was able to buy a new Feuerhand Baby Special 276, a transport bag, a large additional reflector and 1 liter of petroleum for 50 euros on eBay!
Please try the petromax hk500.
I have never seen a feuerhand in germany, we use Petromax that may or may not been stolen when in mandatory service.
They are much much brighter, very sturdy and they made all kinds of add-ons for them for heat, cooking, etc.
That's a weird thing to say, because you can find Feuerhand lamps everywhere.
Petromax is also nice, but way more expensive and a complete different system.
Since the fuel is under pressure and it uses a gas mantle and not just a wick.
A german brand name doesnt make a german product. ;-)
Great video.
Regards from Brandenburg
I appreciate and agree with all your observations on quality issues. The Chinese clones are really cheap feeling. HOWEVER, the idea of "handing one down for generations" is delusional. This isn't the 19th century.
I only have German products. Because I am German and live there 😅
Funny thing is I'm pretty sure that Mr. Dietz was a German as well. 😂 "Dietz" can be only a german name cause of the ie ( for a long pronunciation of an (i) and the tz on the end.
The old dietz were good when made in US. Some good ones available. Made of real US iron.
only trouble is in buying used, the people selling them want more than new pricing.
at least here i cal.
In 2018 I traded in my last Mercedes for a KIA Sportage, best choice ever
Dietz is made by the PRC, Feuerhand is German made. Love my 276
Doesn't the Feuerhand come in different sizes like Dietz, or do they just manufacture one size?
The Feuerhand is very small compared what you can get from Dietz, esp the #80. The Dietz wins because it produces more light, which is the reason to have a lantern.
The whole point of making things in China is to make them cheaper. Not necessarily less expensive, you understand, just cheaper.
Much safer than our Coleman and not nearly as fussy plus the fuel is safer to carry.
I have several Feuerhand lanterns. The laterns are made by a small german company in Magdeburg. btw, the numbers in the (276) is the average burntime of the lantern.
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276 has a factory stated burn time of 20 hours. The number merely replaced the earlier 275 model with a burntime of 12 hours. The smaller & earlier 175 model stated 14 hours. I have a 276 with extended font giving a stated burn time of 72 hours, although by turning the flame down, mine ran for exactly a fortnight or 336 hour. There was even an "Atom" 75 model which is even smaller.
The giveway "Made in West Germany" denotes post WW2 variants, whereas pre-war models state " Made in Germany".
@@GearGadgetReviews Feuerhand has it's own channel on RUclips showing their range of products and how they're produced.
ruclips.net/video/WgCc6gdCC24/видео.htmlsi=otg3a-spHY6bHCGt
(English subtitles available 😉)
The Feuerhand is Powder-coated, no painted!
Everytime an "old" company is sold to a new owner the quality gets more worse !
I own a german Dual turntable from the seventies (Dual CS 1229) and it still works fine. Clearly it was maintained, when needed. Years ago I bought a Dual CS 435 from the 90s for my daughter and after 2 ½ years the motor broke down. A company from France called Thompson-Brand was reponsible for that rubbish !
When Mr. Postman handed me the package, I first thougt it was empty. 😢
The whole turntable weighed about 3 Kilogramms, only the platter of my old Dual weights the same.
If you want a good Dietz buy vintage USA made. Ebay has a lot of them for sale.They all have dates up until 1970. After 1970 they were made in New York still with quality and heavier metal then moved to Hong Kong in1982 and then china. The china ones are lightweight crap. Ones made in NY are stamped so on top of the tank in big letters.
just a shame the Feuerhand comes only in small ... and that the real king of german storm lanterns Petromax HK500 is extremely expensive these days, no matter if new or old.
"Feuer" vom Feuerhand ist german for "Fire".
So: Firehand in english
Greets from Germany
btw: The HK500 is in another Dimension. And way more complicated.
You are looking at a $10.00 difference for a still bigger lantern. There is nothing wrong though with the quality of the Feuerhand.
Come on! Call it Firehand! 😮or better....Firefist! 😊
Dietz just isn't "Dietz" anymore. I've got a variety of antique cold-blast lanterns and the old Dietz is much better than the modern Chinese-made junk. I picked up a modern brand-new Dietz "Little Wizard" and the font leaked kerosene through the seams. That would never happen with the older models. The old Dietz train signal lamps, both high-top and low top, were darn near bulletproof.
Great video
I prefer Embury.
Petromax HK500 is the next level, 400W light output, but expensive and Made in Germany. Once you have these, you will never want anything else.
have heard that the Chinese ones can leak, bad solders
The Feuerhand is powder coated
Unless you trying to escape detection then who cares what color it is get the cheapest one as long as it works even if it's the hot pink 50% off one
Time to check the Petromax .
Comparing ease of use, noise, longevity and ease of maintenance, I would definitely prefer the type of lantern shown in this video. Sure, the body etc of a petromax is quite durable, but the seals, the pump, the sock, all these parts need to be constantly changed out. With these type of lanterns, you load a piece of good quality wick and you won't have to change it for a year or two if its used daily. Plus I can't stand the constant roar of a petromax, might as well go for a butane lamp and forego the stink of a petromax. Fuel versatility wise a petromax does win though.