Best line I’ve heard in years. Best investments “hard to say these days” which to me shows amazing balance work by the dev team keeping lots of commanders relevant they are just changing kits and not really scaling power super hard like the early days
I run 3 infantry marches and Ragnar Prime is perfect for my account because he allows me to pair skill damage with skill damage the way it's suppose to run. 1. Guan/ Scipio 2. Wallace/ Lui Che 3. Ragnar Prime/ Sargon These 3 marches will pack a punch but want get targeted in balls
I hope they are gonna actually make Ragnar Prime Leadership and they just have the Infantry as a placeholding test. We really needed a Honda/Mehmed/Aethel upgraded commander this would have been it. A universal secondary commander that works with any troop type would help everyone
Problem is that it would most likely make every struggle or investment made by any current player past kvk3, worthless. Just putting a universal commander, I mean... sure. But it can't be a thing that just beats any combo, otherwise it would just be abused and create imbalance in the game.
the "Problem" thats i have with this video is, not all can play Ragnar Prime , so whats the best combo then ? and you planing to upload a overall best marches ? we have new archer for openfield
help! I need to run ONE single march and it will be infantry. Who do I pair? Or I could technically save sculptures by 5551 scipio and start a 2nd march. what should I do?
I am confused need help Chisgule. I have Liu Che, Scipio, Guan, Alexander, YSG all expertised. I have 600 Sculpture. Do i need to expertise Ragnar? What pair do i use Ragnar with? Is YSG still good ( good with Ragnar?)
I need help, i have guan/scipio, liu/alex, nev/joan p and zhege/herman. I never got ww because everyone says alex does just as good with liu compared to ww liu… but now ragnar p is coming in, not sure who to invest. I got 1700 gold heads dont know who to invest in, another reason i didnt go ww is because liu/constantine is my canyon lineup and thats what most of the top players run, i dont wanna switch back and forth from liu to ww vice versa
So if say I was a crazy person and ended up with 3 sets of infantry gear (one was untalented on trajan for a bit) would future plans for LC/Alex, Ragnar/Scipio, and WW/Wu (placeholder) be fine.
Hard to say. We don't know what the next inf release will be after ragnar. Won't know until we see what it is. I think as it stands, Wallace/LC and Ragnar/Scipio is the play.
@@aghost4877 Alex isn’t future proof. I personally don’t think it’s worth the 235 gh, plus museum currency for the buffs. I feel like Alex is either a full go in pre-soc, or not at all.
@@GrowmietheGreen 235 is less than 690 and the results are the same, Liu/Alex slaps. As this is going to be his only infantry march, that’s the best investment he can make right now.
@@aghost4877 I’m not saying they’re not good. I run LC/Alex on one of my 2 accounts. What I’m saying is that it’s a safer long term investment. We all know what kind of a slump that Alex went through for a long time. It’s not gonna last forever. Not that Wallace will, but it would be far longer than Alex will remain. I mean, sure, wanna do it, go for it. But 235 GH invested in a long term commander is better than invested in one that’s good with only 1 commander with additional buffs in the likes of the museum. Personally, only time I would suggest someone works on Alex is in early game, where his utility will be longer and greater. But to each their own 🫵😎 Cheers!! 🍻
Im in KVK 3 now and will do Ww/Lc as first march. Like the synergy. Wont have to worry about next few inf cycles since ile be working on Cav then archer.
Wallace/Liu che and Skippy can work with almost any infantry commander. Or you could Skippy/Mehmed. Ran that one for a year and gave me some good trades.
I mean, sure you could do that but to be fair... how many actually carry an expertised gorgo? Unless you're planning on becoming a garr lead, there's no reason why you should expertise gorgo over alex per se.
@@manuelvelasco2761 individually she's ok, the problem is in teamfighta and murder balls. She does nothing, she only does mild damage and counterattack damage. Alex does damage, gives shields to self and allies, increases damage taken by enemies, and he's generally more relevant overall than gorgo. You can obviously use Alex in kvk 2, you get the benefit of having his 3rd skill maxed ready for the first SoC kvk. But mostly, compared to her perfomance in garrison, open field gorgo is just wasted. You loose on some much stuff by using Gorgo open, it's not even funny. So unless you are the actual alliance's main garrison leader, there's no point in investing in here just to open field.
Using LC/Alex and Guan/Scipio now. Enough sculps to invest in 1 new commander; which one would be best? Wallace or Ragnar? Unfortunately that question wasn't answered
Wallace, at the end of the day, Guan/scipio is a more versatile march in basically anything you are doing. Teamfights, murder balls, canyon. Throwing away Guan would be a shame. And anyways Wallace/LC plows like crazy.
Sargon might have some synergy with Ragnar cuz the march speed drain. the issue with Sargon was he could never stick to the target long enough to do the whole 5 second of his skill
@@D1ChipSalesman nah, I wouldn't do that. I would finish your LC, pair him with your scipio during the interim, and once you've finished LC, perhaps see if by that time, we have new smite inf and check that out. In the event that we don't, or its not better, then I'd say yeah, all in on WW. I've heard some say the WW isn't all that great, but his rage reduction talent is OP, particularly with LC as secondary. I use this pair, and it really is amazing.
I would like to invest in Ragnar because seems a very good pairing for scipio which health red you hit harder with Ragnar all 3 targets but I ll go liuche first,I already have alex5551 so it’s good so after that maybe Ragnar and I stop working on guan which is annoying because he is already 5151
people underrating the skill tree for Liu imo. the biggest thing skill tree brings is rage gen, which is really good always. combined with liu's extra rage from extra attacks, ragnar/liu is gonna absolutely nuke everything in the field. i think it's the best single march for inf, repl;acing scipio/liu, pretty easily.
That's because you are casting the aoe skill first. When doing murder balls or just regular open field, it's hard to engage and remain engaged in a fight for more than 3 seconds, and that in most cases isn't enough to do a full skill cycle with most pairings.
I'm using 4 marches, i need chisgule opinion on this and everyone. -Gorgo/LC both fully expertise -Guan/Scipio prime both fully expertise -Nevsky/Joan prime both fully expertise -Zhuge liang expertise and Hermann prime 5551 Is this okay?
690 gold heads....idk. Another round of infantry is coming in six months again. I already have two expertised infantry march. Heck, most players don't even have Wallace maxed yet... 😂
why do you always keep ranting about your leadership set and make game drop things your way ? just accept it as a bad investment and move on, you made all of us invest Sargon for lc and we all have moved on , but you keep on ranting your leadership inf set so game helps you out with that as you are the best content creator for them.
All of this to tell me to just keep running my wallace liu and gorgo skippy and save heads for 9 months for new inf release and make a decision then long term gain instead of short term punching power
this channel is losing my interest slowly. Once a dedicated ROK channel and now more focus on other games. So I might switch to other yt that are more dedicated rok players.
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Best line I’ve heard in years. Best investments “hard to say these days” which to me shows amazing balance work by the dev team keeping lots of commanders relevant they are just changing kits and not really scaling power super hard like the early days
@@Torianx69 Rise of kingdoms in a good spot rn
Honda is still super solid because of his expertise, more troops and massive buffs. He's in my line up with Huo
Devs were really toying infa mains😅 The next release could be either cavs or leadership/siege yet they release Ragnar P.
I run 3 infantry marches and Ragnar Prime is perfect for my account because he allows me to pair skill damage with skill damage the way it's suppose to run.
1. Guan/ Scipio
2. Wallace/ Lui Che
3. Ragnar Prime/ Sargon
These 3 marches will pack a punch but want get targeted in balls
I feel like the best thing is to go 3 infantry marches.
How do you feel about guan Ragnar and scipio LC instead of LC Alex?
Thanks for the vid and feedback
8 seconds ago is crazy
I have 3 legendary talented infantry sets, im forever married to infantry, definitely going to have to add ragnar prime to the mix :P
Hello, what do you think about pair Guan ragnar or ragnar gorgo for Field?
Is Ragnar good with Gorgo?
I hope they are gonna actually make Ragnar Prime Leadership and they just have the Infantry as a placeholding test.
We really needed a Honda/Mehmed/Aethel upgraded commander this would have been it.
A universal secondary commander that works with any troop type would help everyone
They are getting around that with kvk artifacts
@@Torianx69 he needs to be that by default. Its dumb its only gonna an artifact in a specific KvK. He needs to be a universal secondary for Ark
Problem is that it would most likely make every struggle or investment made by any current player past kvk3, worthless. Just putting a universal commander, I mean... sure. But it can't be a thing that just beats any combo, otherwise it would just be abused and create imbalance in the game.
is caesar good for kvk ?
the "Problem" thats i have with this video is, not all can play Ragnar Prime , so whats the best combo then ? and you planing to upload a overall best marches ? we have new archer for openfield
help! I need to run ONE single march and it will be infantry. Who do I pair? Or I could technically save sculptures by 5551 scipio and start a 2nd march. what should I do?
What if you don't have Wallace or Ragnar which should you go for?
I am confused need help Chisgule. I have Liu Che, Scipio, Guan, Alexander, YSG all expertised. I have 600 Sculpture. Do i need to expertise Ragnar? What pair do i use Ragnar with? Is YSG still good ( good with Ragnar?)
suggestion for 4 even 5 infantry pair marches?
As an f2p player should I invest ragnar ,or wait for the next infantry again? with the case I just expertise WW
So as a free to play/low spender on a restart should I invest in liu che or scipi first for my one infantry march
Liu Che
Can I have the best 3 infantry marches if I have gorgo?
I need help, i have guan/scipio, liu/alex, nev/joan p and zhege/herman.
I never got ww because everyone says alex does just as good with liu compared to ww liu… but now ragnar p is coming in, not sure who to invest.
I got 1700 gold heads dont know who to invest in, another reason i didnt go ww is because liu/constantine is my canyon lineup and thats what most of the top players run, i dont wanna switch back and forth from liu to ww vice versa
Was Wu zetian a mistake?
Dismantle your infantry gears on Trajan and do full leadership set, you can play with any type you want as 7th march
So if say I was a crazy person and ended up with 3 sets of infantry gear (one was untalented on trajan for a bit) would future plans for LC/Alex, Ragnar/Scipio, and WW/Wu (placeholder) be fine.
Hard to say. We don't know what the next inf release will be after ragnar. Won't know until we see what it is. I think as it stands, Wallace/LC and Ragnar/Scipio is the play.
Hello. I have Liu expertised and Alex 5552. Should I max Alex? Thanks (I don't have more inf commanders)
Mehhhhh... I don't know, man... I think wallace is the play at this point. But just my opinion.
Just finish Alex at this point, this pair is good.
@@aghost4877 Alex isn’t future proof. I personally don’t think it’s worth the 235 gh, plus museum currency for the buffs. I feel like Alex is either a full go in pre-soc, or not at all.
@@GrowmietheGreen 235 is less than 690 and the results are the same, Liu/Alex slaps. As this is going to be his only infantry march, that’s the best investment he can make right now.
@@aghost4877 I’m not saying they’re not good. I run LC/Alex on one of my 2 accounts. What I’m saying is that it’s a safer long term investment. We all know what kind of a slump that Alex went through for a long time. It’s not gonna last forever. Not that Wallace will, but it would be far longer than Alex will remain. I mean, sure, wanna do it, go for it. But 235 GH invested in a long term commander is better than invested in one that’s good with only 1 commander with additional buffs in the likes of the museum. Personally, only time I would suggest someone works on Alex is in early game, where his utility will be longer and greater. But to each their own 🫵😎 Cheers!! 🍻
chis can u say: "Letsgosky" in stream or in video?
doesn't sargon do huge damage over time which could work well for latent power. and he brings the health, attack and march speed ragnar needs
Sargon doesn’t do damage over time. He buffs himself and does damage each second he hits something. It is not buffed by latent power 🫠
Im in KVK 3 now and will do Ww/Lc as first march. Like the synergy. Wont have to worry about next few inf cycles since ile be working on Cav then archer.
I am currently running Liu Che/sargon and guan/scipio and my Alex is on the bench. Would a Liu Che/alex and scipio/sargon work better? Chat?
Yep, with those commanders works better lc/alex and guan/scipio
I have max LC, Skippy and alex, 5551 Wallace. What pairings should I do? 230gheads
Wallace/Liu che and Skippy can work with almost any infantry commander. Or you could Skippy/Mehmed. Ran that one for a year and gave me some good trades.
I'm doing Ragnar-Memhed in canyon and it slaps way more than Scipio-Ragnar, not even close
Canyon is a little weird with troop capacity bonuses.
Who would you have in a 3 March inf?
ME🎉🎉🎉
Chisgule should I become inf main or stick with Cav??
dont main anything
I agree with sosa
2 Infantry, 2 Cavalry,2 Archers is best for 6 marches. The third march of each kind is not that strong
15 seconds ago
is wild
You missed the gorgo/liu and then wallace/new smite comm. if they do two smite damage marches
I mean, sure you could do that but to be fair... how many actually carry an expertised gorgo? Unless you're planning on becoming a garr lead, there's no reason why you should expertise gorgo over alex per se.
@@Themellow-i2iyea i am a garrison lead in my kingdom and i always watch chisguls vids on inf. Wish more vids on garrison/rally 😅
Idk why so many recomend alex over gorgo. Never got a bad trade with her and with V on boots is good to go
@@manuelvelasco2761 individually she's ok, the problem is in teamfighta and murder balls. She does nothing, she only does mild damage and counterattack damage. Alex does damage, gives shields to self and allies, increases damage taken by enemies, and he's generally more relevant overall than gorgo. You can obviously use Alex in kvk 2, you get the benefit of having his 3rd skill maxed ready for the first SoC kvk. But mostly, compared to her perfomance in garrison, open field gorgo is just wasted. You loose on some much stuff by using Gorgo open, it's not even funny. So unless you are the actual alliance's main garrison leader, there's no point in investing in here just to open field.
Using LC/Alex and Guan/Scipio now. Enough sculps to invest in 1 new commander; which one would be best? Wallace or Ragnar?
Unfortunately that question wasn't answered
Wallace, at the end of the day, Guan/scipio is a more versatile march in basically anything you are doing. Teamfights, murder balls, canyon. Throwing away Guan would be a shame. And anyways Wallace/LC plows like crazy.
Having 3 infantry marches has never felt so good lol. 😂 Im pretty safe investing in everyone
Believe or not ragnar sargon as good as ww lc
@@AzzamAbuJbaranaaah I don't believe you because Sargon are pretty weak
*cries in cavalry*
@@AzzamAbuJbarayeah, in duels. Open field sargon sucks
Sargon might have some synergy with Ragnar cuz the march speed drain.
the issue with Sargon was he could never stick to the target long enough to do the whole 5 second of his skill
Ragnar sargon is becoming a herman type of march
My 3 infantry pairs are Liu Che/ Alex, Ragnar/scipio, Scipio A/ WW , lot of punch.
Maybe new smite will be crazy with wallace and liu che with alex or gorgo
Ww + Liu / Ragnar + Scipy / Guan + Sargon.. thats all!
Things look so good for infantry, I know were getting a mid next cycle.
Ragnar/Honda is strong pair.
They made CoO fun for me again.
Liu alex and guan scipi is the 2 march for me 💪
Is Wallace LC better than Scipi LC?
Absolutely. Wallace/LC best march in game currently. LC/Alex or Scipio/LC is good, but Wallace/LC cooks.
@@GrowmietheGreenis I’m practically F2P with one march that’s Scipi 5551 and LC5511, should I pause on upgrading LC to start invest in Wallace?
@@D1ChipSalesman nah, I wouldn't do that. I would finish your LC, pair him with your scipio during the interim, and once you've finished LC, perhaps see if by that time, we have new smite inf and check that out. In the event that we don't, or its not better, then I'd say yeah, all in on WW. I've heard some say the WW isn't all that great, but his rage reduction talent is OP, particularly with LC as secondary. I use this pair, and it really is amazing.
@@D1ChipSalesman LC is a huge part of why the march is so good to start with. The synergy between the 2 is broken good.
Ok
I would like to invest in Ragnar because seems a very good pairing for scipio which health red you hit harder with Ragnar all 3 targets but I ll go liuche first,I already have alex5551 so it’s good so after that maybe Ragnar and I stop working on guan which is annoying because he is already 5151
Please Lord, give us a true SoC level pair for Trajan on the field
Can u help i just started and I don’t know how to get a lot more power im at 30k
Sun tzu prime ✨️ 😎
Prime Scipio/Prime Ragnar VS Prime Scipio/Alexander.
Who wins? Need help hahaha
people underrating the skill tree for Liu imo.
the biggest thing skill tree brings is rage gen, which is really good always.
combined with liu's extra rage from extra attacks, ragnar/liu is gonna absolutely nuke everything in the field.
i think it's the best single march for inf, repl;acing scipio/liu, pretty easily.
So liu as prime and ragnar as 2nd?
Opposite @@themanwhosoldtheworld999
Who the hell plays scipio liu
Imo i wont separate Scipio and Ragnar in 3 infa marches
Hello 👋
Am i the only one that gets better trades with LC primary with WIlliam then William primary?!?
I like it as well. You get the MS which at the end of the day could just be better than the bonuses from the smite tree
That's because you are casting the aoe skill first. When doing murder balls or just regular open field, it's hard to engage and remain engaged in a fight for more than 3 seconds, and that in most cases isn't enough to do a full skill cycle with most pairings.
WW Liu>All infantry marches
I'm using 4 marches, i need chisgule opinion on this and everyone.
-Gorgo/LC both fully expertise
-Guan/Scipio prime both fully expertise
-Nevsky/Joan prime both fully expertise
-Zhuge liang expertise and Hermann prime 5551
Is this okay?
Sounds good yeah
if u have Alex, use Liu-Alex
Alex guan might go to bench
690 gold heads....idk. Another round of infantry is coming in six months again. I already have two expertised infantry march.
Heck, most players don't even have Wallace maxed yet... 😂
6 mins wow
Rip Cavs players
😆 this answered nothing for me
How much money do you want Lilith 😂😂😂 let me be
why do you always keep ranting about your leadership set and make game drop things your way ?
just accept it as a bad investment and move on, you made all of us invest Sargon for lc and we all have moved on , but you keep on ranting your leadership inf set so game helps you out with that as you are the best content creator for them.
The game direction mandated gear be created to be meta. I did that. Game design should never punish players for following the META.
All of this to tell me to just keep running my wallace liu and gorgo skippy and save heads for 9 months for new inf release and make a decision then long term gain instead of short term punching power
this channel is losing my interest slowly. Once a dedicated ROK channel and now more focus on other games. So I might switch to other yt that are more dedicated rok players.