Canada Had High Speed Rail. What Happened?
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2023
- Forty years ago we had high speed trains in Canada. What happened?
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Many videos that touch on the history of train travel just mention that „Highways got expanded“. But that’s not the right way to say it, they got built and maintained by billions of tax payers dollars, while passenger rail had to fight for their lives with innovations like CN‘s Turbo Train, until they gave up on it.
While planes were a real invention that made trains dispensable for very long distances, everything else was just a wrong political decision.
There's also the TGV between Paris and Bordeaux that takes 2h and 4 small minutes to run 580-590 kilometers.
The first part that opened in 1989/1990 is operated at 300 kph while the second part is operated at 320 kph since 2017.
The last extension axed more than a hour of journey time.
Before 2017, the second part was operated on regular upgraded lines running at 200 or 220.
This line has some of the highest average speeds, like 290 kph average.
On some city / station pairs you immediately accelerate out of stations and stay at Vmax until it's time to decelerate and enter destination station.
Barely any speed variations along the way.
Imagine a true high-speed backbone in Canada allowing Toronto to Montreal in just 2 hours...
All the most important population centers in Eastern Canada are on a virtually straight line.
So it's kinda the best setup for HSR.
I didn't know I needed a train themed Power Rangers but I'm here for it
I'm Surprised They Didn't Show The Ninja Turtles.
Settlements in Canada came before rail. As settlements grew into towns/cities, and rail became an option, rail lines joined the cities. The cities continue to grow, around the existing rail lines. No effort has been made to consider the impact to the existing rail lines (e.g. level crossings). Rail has great potential, but it comes with a cost.
I mean yes, that was an extremly interesting video...but i just want to know what additional thing you found at the end of the beaver Video!!! The suspense is killing me :D
Serendipity! In a week I'll be riding from NYC to Montreal! Would be nice if that didn't take 11 hours 😅
The TGV tried doing the same thing. But it switched to electric high-speed trains, unlike Canada. At least the rail industry didn't instantly collapse with cars on the rise as it did in the United States.
One thing that you forgot is that the LRC was promoted highly by MLW which was the death of the Turbo.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the UAC TurboTrain was the fastest train to enter revenue service when it did. During testing the UAC Turbo hit 170 MPH (274 km/h) in New Jersey on the North East Corridor in 1967. The 0 Series Shinkansen only hit 210 km/h (130 MPH) but actually reached that in revenue service. Still the UAC TurboTrain would regularly reach 120 MPH (193 km/h) in the US in revenue service.
Was thinking about that. 274km/h in 1968 is record breaking. No regular HSR got there until the 80s.
I WANT TURBO TRAINS
Thank you for that retro look at canadiana
We started with the TurboTrain then moved on to Hawker Siddeley LRC and now Siemens Charger
Lasted until about the same time the Budd Metroliner went under. Similar stories. I say building a competitive high speed rolling stock requires significant backup from the state - which means industrial policy. Subsidies, university-industry collaborations, all that. Again, that’s just for the train alone. You need the political will. The engineering requirement that enabled Turbo to run on existing lines itself indicated political compromise that primed its demise. The same ship had been repeatedly sailing away ever since Avro.
I remember the only time of taking the Toronto-Montreal VIA train in the early 2000s. Not a bad experience. But these days, being posted in China, I get to take the 4.5 hour, 1,318 km Beijing-Shanghai HSR often. Every time it makes me sad, realizing that’s something we’ll never get in Canada.
10:00 Principal Skinner reporting?
Can we all please talk about, and continue to talk about, what a disaster High Frequency Rail is going to be. At true high speed, I’ll pick that over a flight every day-better for the environment also. At high frequency 4+ hours Montreal to Toronto, I’m sticking with flying.
Why are we wasting money on something that is slight faster (including better acceleration) when we can spend something just a little more truly revolutionary.
No one has yet to explain to me why Canada can’t do High speed. Recall Japan in many places has more snow than Quebec Windsor.
Yes they have!
The no legs look is crazy
I wish we had more accessable modes of transportation in Canada... Getting anywhere when you're disabled is a genuine pain in the ass.
the dancing, the fashion..............eeek
ToQger’s trains are just a cheap imitation of GoGoFive’s Renketsu Gattai Grand Liner/Lightspeed Rescue’s Supertrain Megazord. Grand Liner was huge and was a carrier for the components of the team’s other robots. ToQger’s robot ToQ-O just has a big red train phallus.
Well we don't have the tracks it will never happen
im fine with 160km/h, as long as its efficient, reliable, and cheap, which via rail is none of.
You don't have to go to Japan, a ton of countries can do 500 Km in 2 hours and 30 minute by train, Spain, Italy, France, etc.😂
You could make your point without the nonsense!
Never! haha
Agreed. I couldn’t get through the video
As Canada is an english-speaking/anglo nation, just look up "Britain HS2" and "California High Speed Rail" to see what will happen to any Canadian high speed rail project.