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To be very bluntly honest, I did click expecting you to land the whole stack onto the moon. Was a little bit disappointed, but I'm glad you addressed it in the video, and it was still an interesting video. Maybe you could try to land the whole stack on the moon??
If you want to check thrust:weight ratio with some engines not running, you don't have to take them off and replace them with mass simulators, you can just turn them off or throttle them down to zero (can't remeember which) in the VAB/hangar.
This is what I do for my science run. I have a space station gas station in kerbin orbit. I launch my ships up as payloads on board a massive booster. They can dock, up to 6 at once, to the fuel station. I have a mining base on minimus that brings ore over to make fuel. The shuttles never go back down. There is an escape pod to get back down to cycle crews out. They do rotations on minmus, the Mun, and soon Duna and then a rotation on the gas station. Then the station crew goes back to Kerbin and becomes the next expedition crew. It's pretty nifty. The shuttles just get repaired in space if you need it. They land on each body either vertically and tip over or just like a plane.
I was just thinking about this, in the movie they depicted refilling the space shuttle at MIR space station, which was the one in orbit at the time. Unfortunately, the VFX designers depicted them dropping the fuel tank before they got to the space station.
Hey Matt, Id reccomend checking out the mod atmosphere autopilot, its really great for janky craft like the space shuttle as it keeps you spot on where you want to be pointed and is essentially ULTRA SAS with proper fly by wire, it also allows you to set maximum g values for realistic fighter jet builds and maximum Angle of Attack so you dont spin out when re entering the atmosphere in a Space X style configuration. Been using it for about my last 200 hours of KSP gameplay, and its made the game so much more enjoyable, especially for someone like me who builds whacky planes and fighter jets in KSP most of the time rather than rockets. Keep up the awesome videos!
No matter the thumbnail, I’m going to watch any Matt Lowne video, especially KSP videos. When are you going to continue that series you were doing with KSP where you went to the mun, and built a mining rig and also a space station? I found it really enjoyable to watch the series as it developed!
Firstly, thank you for all the KSP help, been playing through career mode and having a lot of fun! Just wanted to say you’re one of the few RUclipsrs I respect for the fact there isn’t really any clickbait and your titles don’t leave questions unanswered, but ye the thumbnail isn’t clickbait 😂 Have you tried to replicate the future startship flight, refuel in space and land the starship on the moon?
I strongly recommend you to use linux's trajectoties mod. It calculates your descent trajectory in real time by taking into account drag, orbital velocity, parachute deployment etc. Downside is that it won't do these predicitions unless you've already staged your lander (like for example when trying to land an eve rover), but it still works well for ssto's and shuttles, especially at night!
An ambitious mission filmed on the first run? This'll be fun to watch! Can't you put the Vectors in a different stage to get delta-v readings for the vacuum engines alone? I do that all the time and now I'm wondering if I've been doing it wrong. :) I do very very retro programming. I enjoy making things that work, that do something in some way, but the documentation for most modern libraries/modules just does my head in. The shuttle took off like a toddler who wanted to see what was _over there!_ :) I can never remember the thumbnail a few minutes into the video anyway. There are _some_ advantages to having a flakey brain. :) I like the new Like & Subscribe animation, especially with the smile. Slidey slidey slidey! It's almost like ice racing. I wonder what the grip would really be like in low gravity on all that ultra-sharp sand? Same as I wonder if rovers on Kerbin would really slide on grass; if it might be more realistic than we think. Maybe not. Nice lunar takeoff. It looks really cool besides being practical. That was fun to watch. Thanks Matt!
Regarding the Vektor engines: you couldve just turned the thrust limiter to zero. Also the real shuttle OMS ran on pressure fed bipropellant, not monopropellant
But it was a different bipropellant to the main engines, they couldn't share propellant. The only different propellant we have which is in the same general ISP range as the Shuttle's OMS is monopropellant.
Its too bad these shuttle don't bank in space like the ones from Armageddon. Those were clearly superior in design and execution. I bet you could get Bruce Willis to help you fix the design, he knows how to use a pipe wrench at sea, so yeah. Mad skills, he definitely has the qualifications.
I feel like you should have put some landing struts on the back of the craft so you didn't set down on the engines. Where you touch down with the struts and fall to your landing gear.
Many KSP mods are just configuration files... You aren't really coding too much unless you're adding new functionality but if you're just adding parts/ships/missions/planets/etc... You can do it all with the files in the install directory
An idea for the thumbnail is having the 2 boosters behind it and to the sides and the external tank is also behind it, and the shuttle's gear is down (which is sorta clickbaity considering you didn't do a runway-style landing.
to make up for the thumbnail you should send a full stack shuttle to the mun. then have it launch to duna, orbital drop a rover and fly back to kerbin.
Matt, you need to get rcs build aid, not only tells u the amount of torque your rcs produces (more=bad), it also tells u how much torque your engines produce and even shows ur dry mass (more engine torque again =bad)
The whole flipping over during ascent isn't that inaccurate actually. From STS-87 onwards bar a couple exceptions for payload capacity (HST n stuff), the shuttle would roll over a bit after SRB Sep. Certainly not for the same reasons however lol.
Fun video and I did still watch it but yeah was maybe expecting a full stack space shuttle going to the moon. If that becomes the norm I might be less likely to click in the future.
Theres something off with your graphics bud Im using the same stuff and I am not getting the shading issues in landing are you running it with deferred? Also keep on mind parallax continued requires a manual deferred install its in the changlogs in patron
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Will you land on the moon in RSS (Real Solar System)?
Post a craft file
Matt lowne vidoes are amazing from Kenya
@@MrKylo987 That would be quite interesting
I love ur vids
To be very bluntly honest, I did click expecting you to land the whole stack onto the moon. Was a little bit disappointed, but I'm glad you addressed it in the video, and it was still an interesting video. Maybe you could try to land the whole stack on the moon??
matt lowne clickbait is the least offensive clickbait, he's always so honest and open about it😢🤧 hes just the GOAT of ksp youtube 😭
If you want to check thrust:weight ratio with some engines not running, you don't have to take them off and replace them with mass simulators, you can just turn them off or throttle them down to zero (can't remeember which) in the VAB/hangar.
Yes, it’s the thrust limit. I’ve used this method before when making VTOL aircraft as it also affects the centre of thrust indicator.
I put them in a different stage. You usually need the stage you want figures for to be stage 0.
This is what I do for my science run. I have a space station gas station in kerbin orbit. I launch my ships up as payloads on board a massive booster. They can dock, up to 6 at once, to the fuel station.
I have a mining base on minimus that brings ore over to make fuel. The shuttles never go back down. There is an escape pod to get back down to cycle crews out. They do rotations on minmus, the Mun, and soon Duna and then a rotation on the gas station. Then the station crew goes back to Kerbin and becomes the next expedition crew.
It's pretty nifty. The shuttles just get repaired in space if you need it. They land on each body either vertically and tip over or just like a plane.
They did it in Armageddon, so it must be possible in reality.
I was just thinking about this, in the movie they depicted refilling the space shuttle at MIR space station, which was the one in orbit at the time. Unfortunately, the VFX designers depicted them dropping the fuel tank before they got to the space station.
Matt can make any -nightmare- fantastic space concepts come to life with KSP -2-
KSP2 was a nightmare in and of itself
Yeahhh…No
this was KSP 1
I get the idea though
@@AttemptedPretzelMakerI think they were trying to put a line through the 2
This would have been possible in real life if they sacrificed 0.05% of the military budget for this
No. Maybe 5% though. The current nasa budget is about 0,5% of the total us annual budget.
Hey Matt, Id reccomend checking out the mod atmosphere autopilot, its really great for janky craft like the space shuttle as it keeps you spot on where you want to be pointed and is essentially ULTRA SAS with proper fly by wire, it also allows you to set maximum g values for realistic fighter jet builds and maximum Angle of Attack so you dont spin out when re entering the atmosphere in a Space X style configuration. Been using it for about my last 200 hours of KSP gameplay, and its made the game so much more enjoyable, especially for someone like me who builds whacky planes and fighter jets in KSP most of the time rather than rockets. Keep up the awesome videos!
TD Channel - How to land a space shuttle on the moon - Stick it on a 1km tall rocket
Matt - How to land a space shuttle on the moon - I just can
Yeah, TD Channel is insane! :) Didn't they send a full shuttle launch stack with launchpad to Duna? Or Mars (RSS)? Or was it a Saturn 5?
its ridiculous how good this game looks with mods, like you'd think you were playing KSP 2
5:28 Bye bye comm access to your space centre!
We watching For All Mankind with this one 🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
For All Mankind but without the LSAM (or MunSAM in this case)
Or MSAM
I love the fact canard means deceptive story, the little wing stability thing, and also just a duck.
yeah.. this is definitely what NASA intended
That Profile Picture is Familiar
I was expecting a vertical landing on landing legs. The RCS for lift was amazing.
Super realistic reentry effects would be a nice mod.
4:48 I see what you did there, that was good. I feel like now you have to do some elaborate mission to launch a full stack from the moon though.
This is truly a space moment
I sent a 100% reusable shuttle to the moon and back once, that was really difficult. cant believe i one-upped the great matt lowne
It feels like Jeb just broke into the Ksc and got in an old shuttle and said, “let’s go to the mun!”
This give me nostalgia
No matter the thumbnail, I’m going to watch any Matt Lowne video, especially KSP videos. When are you going to continue that series you were doing with KSP where you went to the mun, and built a mining rig and also a space station? I found it really enjoyable to watch the series as it developed!
Firstly, thank you for all the KSP help, been playing through career mode and having a lot of fun!
Just wanted to say you’re one of the few RUclipsrs I respect for the fact there isn’t really any clickbait and your titles don’t leave questions unanswered, but ye the thumbnail isn’t clickbait 😂
Have you tried to replicate the future startship flight, refuel in space and land the starship on the moon?
YES! this was TOO MUCH!
how dare you trick us like that?
now you have to find a way to land the whole thing ,SRB included, on the Mun!
Last time i was this early the Space Shuttle was still in operation.
matt you done did it again
What NASA thought Space Shuttle would do.
fr
I think NASA thought the Space Shuttle would deliver payloads... as they happened to design the craft.
@@PersonThatExi for real.... the NASA hate has gone too far
@@rudignI didn’t even know there was NASA hate, why do people even hate NASA that much?
@@PersonThatExiUltrakill ost profile picture, nice
If you set the vectors thrust limit to 0 I’m pretty sure you could’ve seen the thrust to weight ratio
On Mun, we use rock as chock!
We've been blessed with another matt lowne video
0:04 ...some as big as your head 🎶
6:17 At least it wasn't take two, otherwise the cargo bay would be empty and the flight cancelled
Now you owe us a whole stack landing. :)
This is a crazy feat more like this plz
I strongly recommend you to use linux's trajectoties mod. It calculates your descent trajectory in real time by taking into account drag, orbital velocity, parachute deployment etc. Downside is that it won't do these predicitions unless you've already staged your lander (like for example when trying to land an eve rover), but it still works well for ssto's and shuttles, especially at night!
This reminds me of Armageddon!
Matt, i know you like Spaceplanes and etc., but that doesnt mean you can just send a Space Shuttle to the Mun.
The thumbnails fine Matt! Great vid as well!
An ambitious mission filmed on the first run? This'll be fun to watch!
Can't you put the Vectors in a different stage to get delta-v readings for the vacuum engines alone? I do that all the time and now I'm wondering if I've been doing it wrong. :)
I do very very retro programming. I enjoy making things that work, that do something in some way, but the documentation for most modern libraries/modules just does my head in.
The shuttle took off like a toddler who wanted to see what was _over there!_ :)
I can never remember the thumbnail a few minutes into the video anyway. There are _some_ advantages to having a flakey brain. :)
I like the new Like & Subscribe animation, especially with the smile.
Slidey slidey slidey! It's almost like ice racing. I wonder what the grip would really be like in low gravity on all that ultra-sharp sand? Same as I wonder if rovers on Kerbin would really slide on grass; if it might be more realistic than we think. Maybe not.
Nice lunar takeoff. It looks really cool besides being practical.
That was fun to watch. Thanks Matt!
Matt saying 'I'm not gonna spoil the thumbnail' when we have all already seen it when clicking on the video, then also adding it in post...
Next! Land on mars so i can finally see the dream that backyardians did with mission to mars
i finished watching this video! so good!
honestly, i did expect you to land the entire stack on mun.
but its fine lol
Are you going to return the Minmus colony series?
Regarding the Vektor engines: you couldve just turned the thrust limiter to zero. Also the real shuttle OMS ran on pressure fed bipropellant, not monopropellant
But it was a different bipropellant to the main engines, they couldn't share propellant. The only different propellant we have which is in the same general ISP range as the Shuttle's OMS is monopropellant.
For all mankind shuttle lol
Ah now I see why I’m late to these videos they’re uploaded at 4:30 am for me
Hello!
Its too bad these shuttle don't bank in space like the ones from Armageddon. Those were clearly superior in design and execution.
I bet you could get Bruce Willis to help you fix the design, he knows how to use a pipe wrench at sea, so yeah. Mad skills, he definitely has the qualifications.
I feel like you should have put some landing struts on the back of the craft so you didn't set down on the engines. Where you touch down with the struts and fall to your landing gear.
It would be cool if the thumbnail was all the crew was gatherd in a half circle around a flag, and the shuttle in the back
2:00 Matt, you do realise you can just limit the throttle of the vectors to zero?
For a brief moment, I thought you were finally leveled up to KSRSS.. Still, nice shuttle bro!
YOU CANT SPACE SHUTTLE A SPACE SHUTTLE MATT OR CAN YOU??
I want my speedrunning the space race back
Don’t do a draw my life, do KSP your life using KSP to tell the story
*"NASA wants to know your location"*
best ksp youtuber
Matt’s control issues are par for the course with KSP shuttles. Very hard to fly.
Cool mission
Have you launched a Saturn V to the moon?
Many KSP mods are just configuration files... You aren't really coding too much unless you're adding new functionality but if you're just adding parts/ships/missions/planets/etc... You can do it all with the files in the install directory
An idea for the thumbnail is having the 2 boosters behind it and to the sides and the external tank is also behind it, and the shuttle's gear is down (which is sorta clickbaity considering you didn't do a runway-style landing.
40 minutes is crazy
to make up for the thumbnail you should send a full stack shuttle to the mun. then have it launch to duna, orbital drop a rover and fly back to kerbin.
Yer a maniac, Matt
Matt, you need to get rcs build aid, not only tells u the amount of torque your rcs produces (more=bad), it also tells u how much torque your engines produce and even shows ur dry mass (more engine torque again =bad)
gotta love matt turning into trump 4:30 minutes in
More IVAs please! 🥺
The whole flipping over during ascent isn't that inaccurate actually. From STS-87 onwards bar a couple exceptions for payload capacity (HST n stuff), the shuttle would roll over a bit after SRB Sep. Certainly not for the same reasons however lol.
Thumbnail was good
He’s backkkkkk
very cool i approve
You should try KOS and do an automated mun mission, or if you’re up for a challenge, Duna or maybe Jool
Can always use the console version and take off from the Mun facility with it.
when he said moon in the title i had hopes for real solar system
This channel is squandering so much potential by refusing to delve deeper into the modding scene.
Haters will say that a space shuttle drifting on the moon isn’t realistic. The haters are… probably right
Matt tryna be For All Mankind so bad
Sojourner moment
hi Matt
Fun video and I did still watch it but yeah was maybe expecting a full stack space shuttle going to the moon.
If that becomes the norm I might be less likely to click in the future.
5:51 my bad bro
Awesome! why dont they do this irl?
Isn't this the plot of Airplane! 2?
Mun plane!!! 100th probably on the channel...
IM NOW AN OG YAYY
We need audio track for others languages
What's the best ksp modding browser?
You can just set the vectors thrust to zero instead of the hitchhiker cabins?
hi
6 minutes? I haven’t been so early ever 😭
you should try out kerbal vr
For all mankind be like
Hi. Do you guys have good mods for me to install? Not planet packs or anything like that, something that is generally beneficial for stock ksp
Mun and back with only rcs
Theres something off with your graphics bud Im using the same stuff and I am not getting the shading issues in landing are you running it with deferred? Also keep on mind parallax continued requires a manual deferred install its in the changlogs in patron
What I mean is deferred bugs out if not manually installed its in the change logs
Could you theoretically get to Duna or some other smaller body if you used the 5m parts for the expendable fuel tank instead of 3.75m?
i thought you were finally playing with rss