I was a teenager at the time. I saw something in the Will Robinson and the Robot characters that made the show a winner. And Penny was drop dead gorgeous!
The change in Lost In Space in many ways paralleled the changes to Happy Days a decade later. Happy Days started as a realistic (and humorous) look at the 50's and later, to get better ratings, it became the Fonzie show. Fonzie and Dr. Smith had much in common with their roles.
The same complaint was made by "Star Trek's" co-stars, as Shatner carped to Roddenberry, that he wanted more screen time. Major script changes were routine. Nichols and Takei were very upset.
My favorite piece of “Lost In Space” trivia was finding out a while ago that Bill and Angela hooked up a few years after the show ended and almost got married.
As a kid, I was fascinated by the early episodes of "Space." But as it morphed into the "Will & Dr. Smith Comedy Hour," I stopped watching. Even an 11-year-old knew garbage when he saw it.
Same here. I loved the early B-Ws and liked the attempts early in S3 at getting back to something a little more serious, but otherwise, count me out. Even as a kid.
Some of those Television execs from yesteryear look increasingly narrow minded and short sighted in retrospect. When I was a kid, the early episodes of "Lost In Space" scared the heck out of me.... but I LOVED IT! I was also watching "Dark Shadows" and the original "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" for many of the same reasons: because a lot of kids like scary movies and shows! The goofier "Lost In Space" got, the less I liked it!
I never understood it. Even as a kid, I was so disappointed when it de-evolved from a top notch Sci Fi show into a campy Sid and Marty Krofft pre-school comedy. The only thing missing was the talking flute.
You might have been a more observant kid than me. I just rolled with the changes and didn't much think about it. When I look back, though, my favourites were early episodes like Hungry Sea, There Were Giants on Earth and Follow the Leader and the Keeper. My only complaint was with silly space versions of Earth - space pirates and Vikings. I was there for weird aliens monsters, not pantomime characters!
@@MoviesMusicMonsters I love Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea Tv series. I 💕 the espionage, Political And Ailen Stories. I didn't like the monster of the week stories in the 4th & Final season. The Terrible Leprechaun is the worst episode of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. Also Brand of the Beast ,The Mummy, The Terrible Toys , Savage Jungle Fatal Cargo & The Plant Men are also terrible episodes.
ABC believed the audience for Voyage was boys. So seasons 2-4 evolved into a juvenile adventure. Thought the penultimate episode “The Death Clock” was trippy-hippy. 7:30 pm was for family shows. The WWII series 12 O’Clock High went from an adult drama to an action show, because ABC moved its timeslot to 7:30 pm and replaced lead actor Robert Lansing with the younger-looking but chronologically older Paul Burke. I am convinced programming decisions like this made this network consistently third-place in ratings until Jiggle TV in the 70s.
I was lucky to get to have lunch with Mark Goddard and Marta Kristen once. Very nice people, down to earth. They both had nothing but the highest compliments for Johnathan Harris. They said he was the nicest man they ever worked with. Lots of praise for Guy Williams as a professional. Marta Kristen and Mark Goddard were very nice too.
I once met Marta Kristen and Mark Goddard at a convention. Mark was a little uppity, but Marta was very friendly and a pleasure to talk with. I even had lunch with her.
At the time I met them, I was working at a foster home as a teacher. Mark Goddard was doing the same kind of work in Philadelphia. We talked shop most of the time. To me he seemed quite nice. Also working with kids at a foster care facility requires some bit of kindness. Maybe you caught the guy on a bad day. But yes, Marta was also really nice. @@richardranke3158
Born Jonathan Charasuchin in the Bronx to Russian-Jewish immigrant parents, Harris adopted the stage persona of a classically trained British actor. And that is just cool!
Being in my mid teens at the time (and a huge Sci-fi fan), I was bitterly disappointed with its deterioration into crude pantomime and stopped watching the show. The fact that it only ran for three seasons proved that it was a short sighted decision to dumb the show down.
I always thought the show went downhill the moment Jonathan Harris started to camp up the Dr. Smith character. It was like this decision of his marked the beginning of the show's unwatchability. I had also heard or read long ago that Harris believed his character was on the chopping block, so he decided to ham it up as a "F--- you" to those calling for his character to be removed from the show. Maybe that information was incorrect, but I still feel that Harris going camp marked the end of the show's watchability for me. It took the character of Harris' voiced Lucifer in _Battlestar Galactica_ to partially redeem the man in my eyes.
Doctor Smith is analogous to Gilligan in Gilligan's Island. Both the Robinsons and the Seven Castaways are in similar predicaments, and Doctor Smith serves a similar role as Gilliigan in driving the plot of each episode.
@@leerhode1021 that was because Gilligan's Island wasn't a science fiction show, though it did have a professor capable of inventing a bunch of crazy gadgets, but none of which got the castaways off the island!
Great vid! I had believed Jonathan Harris' claim that he hijacked the show by his scene-stealing antics. Your explanation makes more sense. As a pre-teen kid watching LIS reruns in the 70's, I absolutely loved the show! As a teen who started getting into Star Trek, I began to totally scoff at the silliness of LIS' color episodes. As an adult, I appreciate the show for what it was. A bittersweet anecdote that demonstrates the impact this show had: I was caregiver for my elderly father who passed away at 93. During the last six years of his life, my father suffered from dementsia/Alzheimers which of course wreaked havoc on his memory. Although a college professor during his work career in the US, he came from a modest background: a Sicilian farm family. One night, my father asked me if I had "fed the donkey" thinking he was back in his old home town in Sicily. When I explained to him the reality that we were in the US and we weren't living on a farm, he realized just how messed his memory was and he replied "I'm Lost in Space like Doctor Smith!" Of all the things that still remained firmly implanted in his fading memory....
Great video! Note that in the movie Lost in Space Gary Oldman played the sinister Dr. Smith - right up until the ending shot were he ran into the cockpit yelling "We're DOOMED!!" as a nod to the campy version of Dr. Smith on the TV show.
Dan, I love your impression of Smith. When my son was little back in late 90s we watched it regularly here in England and when I did the Smith impression he went into hysterics, he still does. Bungling ninny was another
This was my favorite show when I was a kid. Wednesday nights, 7:30, somehow remains special in my mind nearly 60 years later. Even then I regretted the change from serious to campy, but back then, kids took what they could get on network television.
I'm 62 ands a new subscriber. Loved this show as a kid. The dr. and robot together ws my favorite. Thanks for all the hard work you put into this channel.
As a kid watching it after school on weekdays all I remember are 3 things: 1. I loved the dark haired girl 2. Always wanted them to bust out the laser rifles and battle gear more often 3. Grew to utterly despise Dr Smith
Lost in Space reruns always came on after the morning cartoons in my town, so I watched a lot of it as a kid. It’s true that the early episodes had a lot of tension and seriousness, but it leaned into Dr. Smith’s antics after a time. Always entertaining 😂
I appreciate your explanation, Dan. I had previously believed the "compete with campy Batman" theory. The "kids' show" distinction makes sense, as my young boy's eyes looked at the show differently than my adult eyes. I just wish the show had stayed serious throughout its run and given more dialogue to the other characters. For example, when it comes to Judy, basically all I remember is her flirting with Don and being attacked by plants!
I, like many others, loved the first season. I tolerated the next two seasons because I loved Lost in Space that much. On a personal note: I hope if there is ever a resurrection of the show that You do the voice of the robot! I was very impressed with your take on it!
I think the theme songs and opening credits played into the change as well. The first having more of a sci-fi scare to it and the b&w animated family floating in space on a safety line. Then the second being more upbeat and pop sounding, bright colors and the actual actors in the credits with their colorful, mod costumes. I love both equally as an adult. But as a little kid, I liked the 2nd opening more.
That was an interesting analysis. I never thought about the time slot it was in. But it seemed as if all of Irwin Allen's shows (like Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel) started off with serious intentions and gradually veered into campy fantasy. Maybe it was hard to find enough writers to crank out 26 "serious" episodes each season. I read where the writer of The Great Vegetable Rebellion had simply run out of ideas. BTW, all of the interviews with Jonathan Harris are priceless. He was quite a raconteur.
When I watched Lost In Space reruns as a kid, I saw the second and third seasons before the first. When I saw the earliest episodes, especially the pilot, I was shocked to see Dr. Smith and the Robot out to KILL the Robinsons and Major West! It felt like I was watching a different, darker show. I wondered "How could the Robinsons let this murderous duo travel with them on the Jupiter 2?". Actually, "murderous duo" is present-day me talking, 9 year-old me just thought those two were really, really BAD! How can this be? At the very least, the Robot should have been dismantled or reprogrammed and Smith should have been put in a freezing tube. Instead they were treated like part of the family, albeit Smith was treated like an annoying ne'er do well uncle like Joe Carson in Petticoat Junction.
The voice of the robot, Dick Tufeld, was used in the opening of Lost In Space, The Time Tunnel and even, Peyton Place. I remember my mother sending me out of the room when Peyton Place came on.
Wow! I’m glad you mentioned that! I was sent to bed on the adult stuff too. I’m from the Seattle area. Star Trek came on at 9:00 pm. It was DEFINITELY beddie by at that time. I couldn’t watch it until reruns in the 70s😢
I had heard about the Robot, Wil and & Dr. Smith becoming the most popular characters, but I was not aware of the network execs directions to drive it toward kids. It makes sense as kids buy toys whereas teen boys are off chasing girls while teen girls are busy acting like they don't want to be chased.
I faithfully watched Lost in Space when it first aired. I was 9 years old and had all the merchandise. However, I much preferred the first season even at my young age and became a Star Trek fan when the original series aired. I also enjoyed Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Time Tunnel, and Land of the Giants.
You know Lost in Space and Star Trek have the same parent, that is the movie Forbidden Planet, the seeds of both shows are in that movie. Forbidden Planet has a flying saucer, a robot, an organization called the United Planets, the crew of the saucer in Forbidden planet is much like the crew of the Enterprise, they have a quasi military organization similar to Star Fleet.
I'd say the 'Dr Smith, Robot and Will' show. A perfect triple act. The rest of the LIS cast basically just faded into the background, and apparently they were not too pleased about it - but I guess they just kept getting their paychecks season after season, and were not doing anything too demanding, so just shrugged their shoulders and kept quiet about it.
Such a shame. The first season was brilliant. Once it went to color...it became a live action cartoon for kids. Even as a kid, I presumed that Dr. Smith had a mental breakdown, going from proper villain to hapless victim of his circumstances.
James Aubrey was the President of CBS. He was the executive behind Beverly Hillbillies and Giligan's Island. The campy comic LIS was a lot cheaper to produce than the early sci Fi episodes. Cost was a major factor in the demise of The Twilight Zone.
I used to note a pattern with nearly all Irwin Allen series from the 60s. They start out great and then erode into silly. I recall really enjoying most of the first season of 'Lost In Space'. The darker tone of the show as well as straight science fiction scripts appealed to me. I even had the Aurora robot and cyclops model kits. I lost interest in the show when it became silly. The same with 'Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea'. I never gave the others much of a chance because of this. But I imagine TV shows succumb to network execs like this all of the time.
I used to work with Rick Harris, Jonathan’s son. Jonathan would visit us a couple of times a year. Both of them were kind and extremely intelligent. I am grateful for that experience and what I learned.
I was ten years old when Lost in Space out and I was in seventh heaven. I loved the show but, I quickly left it when it became a fantasy farce. It may have been a kids show but, not all children are immature during adolescence. I'm nearing seventy now but, I haven't lost the kid in me. Remember, growing old is mandatory but, growing up is an option!
Though I was quite young, I still remember watching first run episodes of this show with my family in '67 & '68, and then watching it in reruns everyday after school in the seventies. I'm 60 now, and my all-time favorite episode will forever be "The Space Creature."
I was six back when this first aired in the 60s, and I was already a big science fiction fan, spurred on by my oldest brother who was deep into the genre. Initially, I loved the show (especially the robot and the Jupiter 2), but as the show grew sillier and Smith increasingly became the focus of it, my interest flagged--which is about the time when Star Trek hit the airwaves and gained my allegiance. Better ship. Better adventures. Better SFX. Better characters. And, more importantly, some of the best writing in television at that time. Lost in Space had some decent episodes that I can even now watch and enjoy (though Smith never ceases to irritate me), but far too often it got even the basics of science wrong. It's amazing how ignorant and/or how (clearly) indifferent the writers (and producers) were to getting even the simplest of facts about space and space travel correct. I mean, you knew they were clueless and/or uncaring when terms like solar system and galaxy were bandied about as if they meant the same thing. And there were so many improbable situations, not least being the litany of encounters with other people (some from Earth) who never seemed to be able to help the family get back on track and find their way home (or at least to the oft-mentioned Alpha Centauri). When you watch the original pilot for the series, you get some inkling of what the show might have been had they not had the Smith character chewing up the scenery and turning each episode into a wearying display of ham acting and over-the-top camp. I don't think it was ever going to be the measure of Star Trek, but it could have been a far better and more memorable (at least in a good way) series than it was. By the time the third season aired my family had moved to Pakistan (because of my father's work on a Canadian aid project there), so I never got to see those final (excruciating) episodes. Even decades later, I've yet to view more than a handful of season three episodes, and of those there is little that can be said is redeeming. The Smith character had become a parody of himself, so inanely ridiculous that one couldn't even laugh at the spectacle. And you had to feel sorry for the rest of the cast, who often looked as if they'd reached the end of their tether and were just going through the motions, waiting for the nightmare to end. (Except, perhaps, Billy Mumy, who seemed to be gamely playing along with Jonathan Harris' buffoonery.) In Pakistan I had the good fortune to discover the Gold Key Space Family Robinson: Lost in Space comics, which I initially bought because I though they were adaptations of the TV show. However, the comics were unrelated to the Allen's series, and, in my opinion, generally better. They also had a longer run than the TV series, in terms of years, and remain a favourite collectible for me. If you've never read them, you owe to yourself to seek some issues out and take a gander. Well worth it.
This made me go back and watch the original un-aired pilot with the "Gemini 12", set October 16, 1997) that was worked into the first few episodes (no smith, no Robot). It was an actual serious attempt at "Swiss Family Robinson" in space. It's still "out there" in cyberspace. It was actually a good pilot,with a couple interesting things.... Judy was planning a career in musical comedy before the family being picked, per the news commentator. Don West held a doctorate, not a military Major, and was their "assistant", not their "pilot", whose study was theoretical fitness for human habitation of other planets. A couple of nits to pick: For some reason, with the temperature dropping, John rejects Don's suggestion of staying in the ship, and to migrate south, as if a spaceship designed to travel in the cold of deep space wouldn't shield them from -150 degrees (I assume Fahrenheit). Don gets splashed off the roof of the Chariot trying to reconnect solar batteries in the stormy Inland Sea, and everyone thinks he's gone, when he's just hanging over the side, which they could see if they just looked at the clear side walls. John's written log entries (with a voice-over) which revealed that they were traveling in space for over 3 years before crashing (without details on their revival from suspended animation) were a nice touch, as was the ending, with "aliens" observing them after they get to the tropical area, leaving an open ending fit for a pilot episode. If Irwin Allen had stuck with that, he might have had a true competitor to "Star Trek", but definitely not "kiddie" sci-fi (but, I liked "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" as a kid in the '60s). But, the later movie remake and the Netflix series showed that you can go "serious" with LiS, but still be cringe-worthy...
Actually the situation with the -150 degree temperature was not really that unscientific. In space objects hold heat much better because of being in a vacuum. In our atmosphere a big part of cooling is from convection, where air brushes up against an object and absorbs heat and carries it away. Same thing when submerged in water. However in space the only way to get rid of heat is by radiation, mainly through infrared light. Think of looking at something with a night vision camera, you are seeing the heat radiating from it. Infrared radiation only eliminates a limited amount of heat however, so the Space Shuttle for example and the International Space Station have to work hard to get rid of excess heat. So the Jupiter 2 insulation could handle being in deep space, but on the planet the -150 air which is coming in contact with the spaceship would pull a tremendous amount of heat out of it. As for the Chariot, I just saw that as a normal visual discrepancy, sort of like scenes that take place at night, we usually see things a lot better than someone would in real life. That's because if they portrayed how it actually looked then we wouldn't see much and it would not be as interesting to watch. Same thing with the storm, in "real life" it was dark, and the waves were crashing against the windows, sort of like heavy rain in a car with no windshield wipers. So it is quite conceivable that they could not see Don outside. However visually the scene was shot with plenty of light, although made to look somewhat dark and stormy, so that we as viewers could see what is going on. And there was just water (probably buckets of water) splashing against the windows but not enough to stop us (as viewers) from seeing through the windows so that we could see the waves and storm outside and add to the visual effect. So I give them a pass it wasn't really a "goof" in my opinion.
Nice video. Thank you. As I said in a reply to another comment, as a kid I actually preferred the earlier B&W episodes, with the darker tone, with that earlier theme, though I have come to like both, in more recent years.
Your channel just popped up in my YT feed and I'm very happy it did. I was 15 when "Lost in Space" first premiered and, along with Star Trek a year later, were my favorite moments of watching television as a kid. I do remember LIS becoming more '"younger than me" oriented with the silly costumes and such, and Dr. Smith becoming annoying as I headed to late teenager, but still enjoyed the show during it's run. Nowadays, in my 70's, I find it harder to watch because of the silliness, but it always brings back fond memories when I do.
One of the best parts in many episodes was hearing Dr. Smith scream in fear. Priceless. I also got a kick out of when the Robot sometimes laughed at Dr. Smith. Too funny.
Great analysis. I watched those shows as a kid and wondered about the change. A similar thing happened with Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. The first seasons were more serious and then the campy space clowns started in. That giant whale episode scared the bejebus out of me. The newer color season intro theme song was my favorite though. I got my folks reel-to-reel tape recorder to record it and played it over and over.
I don't know the original time slots, but a similar changed happened to "The Man from UNCLE". It was a serious spy series in the black and white episodes and when it switched to color it gradually got campier to the point of being completely silly. I still blame TV Batman for this shift.
And Stanley Adams as "Tybo the Carrot Man." LOL! I watched the first few episodes of "Lost in Space," then, in 1966, I boldly went where no man has gone before.
What happened to the space chariot, the badass jet pack... And Penny's alien monkey (debby?). Some of the coolest things in the show... All gone after color transition.
It turned into the Dr. Smith / Will screwing up show, not about exploration. Or 25% about family. Itturned stupid real quick. Love the Robot, Jupiter 2,Chariot. Thats about it.
I was 7 years old when this showed debuted and I loved it. You can imagine how bad it was in 3 years when they horrified the same 10 year old boy with what they had done with the show. The episode with Warren Oates is still one of the best TV episodes of all time. Thanks for shedding some light on what really happened.
One other change I noticed was that in the beginning, serious science fiction writers were providing the stories and/or screenplays (e. g. S. Bar-David) but after that all the writers were in-house production staff or "no-name writers" of no known science fiction credibility.
As a child I was thrilled by the special effects that made certain scenes seem other dimensional. Some kind of larger dimension inside of a smaller dimension. That was fascinating and scary to me as a kid.
After the first season it was unwatchable even for my 10-11 year old self. It was summed up perfectly further down by markkomis6160 when he observed how Irwin Allen had amazing concepts that quickly deteriorated into schlock. The robot is still it's one saving grace!
Not long ago, it was showing on some broadcast network and I snagged it. I remembered it as a child and thought parts of it was really stupid but that certain segments were entertaining. Watching it as an adult, I think two episodes got me to tell my DVR to delete all.
As a kid in the early '70s, I loved Lost in Space... at first. I would come home from school in the afternoons and watch reruns of the first season of the show, on TV. It didn't bother me that those episodes were in black & white. I was fascinated! At school, I would daydream of being Will Robinson's brother and being Lost in Space with him and the Robinson family. I even began writing stories of us having adventures together. But then the show started getting campy, and I eventually lost interest. It was the same with me and the Batman reruns on TV. Even though I was an avid reader of comic books, as a kid, I did not care for that "Batman" - I found it to be silly and uninteresting.
I was born and raised in Hawaii. We never got to see "Lost In Space" as it was released. The episodes were never shown in sequence, some episodes we never got to see, many times they would show the same show for two weeks, and they were less than 30 min. and the "TO BE CONTINUED..." we never saw in order. All TV was like that over there. Most kids watched it if there was nothing else to do.
I can't binge watch "Lost In Space" like I can other classic Sci-Fi series. No disrespect to Jonathan Harris, but I can only take so much of Dr. Smith at one sitting.
Excellent video. I remember us boys in grade 1 recess marching around and proudly saying, "Crush Kill Destroy!". I think it was 1967. Also popular was "That does not compute". Penny was my first crush.
I was 12 years old when Lost in Space premiered and I think there is more evidence that the Batman TV show influenced the change to the camp tone of the show than the "family hour" . There were many shows that were mature and violent before and during LIS series that ran in the 7:30 to 8:30 PM time slot such as Gunsmoke,Voyage to the bottom of the Sea,Combat,Garrison's Gorrillas ,Outer Limits, 12 o'clock High,Rawhide,The Wild,Wild West , Ironhorse and two shows The Virginian and Custer of the West actually ran opposite LIS in the same time slot. In fact many family shows like Family Affair and Andy Griffth ran later in the evening. The "family hour" did not become a set programming practice until 1971 in response to an anti violence campaign on TV that sprang up after the Martin Luther King and RFK assassinations. The Family hour plan also coincided with the FCC rule in 1971 which gave the 7:30 to 8:PM time slot back to the local network channels. Source : The Complete Directory of Prime time network shows 1946 to 79.
Excellent analysis :-) and much of what you said is very true. However, I'm simply going by the reasons given directly between Communications from CBS to Irwin Allen. There's an excellent Trilogy of books by Mark Cushman, on Lost In space. The books take an extremely deep dive into this topic. Yes, once the second season hit in color there was definitely an influence from batman, but I was basically speaking with the initial changes were in the first season. Hope you had a great holiday :-) Dan
I was also 12 and I never missed an episode of Lost In Space, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Combat, The Outer Limits, 12 O'clock High or The Wild Wild West. They all ran in Prime Time and they were all good shows. Great times, when less was definitely more.
The noise they used for every huge monster, the screech, whatever ya wanna call it, scared the beejesus out of me when I was 5-6 years old. Never occurred to me that it didn't make much sense that every monster sounded the same.
CBS wasn't called the called the "princess" network for nothing!😄 Even during extreme campiness of the second season there were a handful of good episodes. Thanks Dan!!👍👍
As a kid, i remember plenty of times watching Lost in Space with my Grandmother. Later, she took me to a play with Jonathan Harris. Having the chance to go backstage afterwards, the only question my 10 year old brain could ask was, "Was the Robot real?" His reply was pretty cool. "What do you think?" Been a fan if his ever since. Keep up the good work!
I have often imagined what Lost in Space would have achieved in the annals of science fiction history had it continued in the same direction as the first season. We can only guess. However I must say Netflix reboot of Lost in Space certainly sheds light on the powerful potential of the basic premise. Thank you for these wonderful videos Mr. Monroe!!
I loved this show... Even to this day, and I'm 64, I still every now and then fire up those 1st season black and white eps ...They really ruined the show when it turned from dark and serious to silly and campy.. Its a shame that happened ..one can only wonder had it been let progress along its original lines...The robot being menacing, smith being a spy, a saboteur and an assassin, those were just so cool and the 1st season was so atmospheric! The opening episode , the reluctant stowaway, That was Fire! The ship crashing on a planet for the 1st time with everyone in the freezing tubes, Invaders from the 5th dimension, the 1st season finale episode with john robinson taken over by Quanto, ect... some fantastic episodes and writing ...
I loved the first season when I was a kid, I used to rush home from school to watch it, when the second season started I stopped rushing home from school.
But overall far more serious in tone, despite absurdity like werewolf undersea island. Even Land of the Giants, a full on the nose allegory about the thread of communism, had its ridiculously campy moments.
@@MoviesMusicMonsters , loved every second of it especially your spot on impressions , gave it a like cant wait till the next one , also do you have any resources or links for anyone wanting to keep up on the progress of the chariot restoration ?
There are not enough superlatives to describe just how good this video is. Thank you so much for your insight and research. I'm way into my 60s now and I remember how once a week I'd rush as fast as I could to get home to watch Lost In Space. We only had a black and white set, colour definitely was too pricey back then in London, England. That's all I wanted to say. Keep up the great job. PS Now I'm the one with the bad back saying, “Oh the pain, the pain!”
Hey, thanks so much for the support I truly appreciate it. And I'm not just saying that. I hope you had a great holiday and stay tuned for more videos :-) Dan
@@MoviesMusicMonsters Hello Dan. 👍🏻 You'll never have guessed but I'm a Dan too!! 😁 Thank you very much for the nice message, appreciated. KTF [keep the faith] 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Great show! I have great memories of it.....I recall hating when they left you each week on a cliffhanger....what will happen next? In the 70's did not have a way to record shows, so you were glued to the TV every afternoon/evening waiting to see what came next!
Allen did the same campy/silly things with Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. All these shows became monster-of-the-week affairs with little or no substance. None lasted more than 3 or 4 seasons. Cheers....
Please keep doing your videos on the Lost in Space Show, it was so great and we all LOVE this content. I absolutely LOVED Dr. Smith, I used to laugh my ass off when I was a kid while the show was actually still being filmed. GREAT.. !!!! :) Thanks...
I was about Will's age, the oldest of us four kids, when this show premiered. We were all in. We played "Lost in Space" off our deck in the backyard all the time. We didn't have a color TV so we kinda missed their transition from black & white to color. I had heard that CBS thought the pilot was a bit too slow and insisted on the addition of a saboteur and a robot to provide a bit more action in the beginning. As Johnathan Harris tells it, his character was to be killed off in the second episode, or at least by the fourth, but he kept coming up with character bits to keep Dr. Smith interesting. The Robot was a bit too scary in the beginning, but it was when he actually laughed that we stopped taking him so seriously. That "children's hour" theory goes a long way. If it had been on from 9:00 to 10:00 it would have been past my bedtime and we would have missed it. I do still like the Batman theory because likewise, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and The Wild Wild West also became more campy at the same time. Of course, Gilligan's Island and other such silliness were also very popular at the time. We did get tired of the "Will, Smith, and the Robot" show, though Will and the Robot were my favorite characters and they both played off so well against Dr. Smith. But I did like the way the writers worked to keep this from becoming the "monster of the week" show. The Vegetable Revolution was the point at which Lost in Space "Jumped the Shark" as it were. That was just a bridge too far, even for us kids. That first season is still my very favorite and hints at what this show really could have become.
Born 57, I guess I was the target age for the change. 1952 Superman went through the same format change too. Like Superman, those first episodes were the best, from an adults point of view.
I was a teenager at the time. I saw something in the Will Robinson and the Robot characters that made the show a winner. And Penny was drop dead gorgeous!
The change in Lost In Space in many ways paralleled the changes to Happy Days a decade later. Happy Days started as a realistic (and humorous) look at the 50's and later, to get better ratings, it became the Fonzie show. Fonzie and Dr. Smith had much in common with their roles.
That's true too and is why I stopped watching that show, too.
Good point. The show that inspired the phrase "jumping the shark".
Yeah, Wayne! Happy Days' first season was the only one I cared for.
Yes, they jumped the shark. Rather Irwin Allen did.
The same complaint was made by "Star Trek's" co-stars, as Shatner carped to Roddenberry, that he wanted more screen time. Major script changes were routine. Nichols and Takei were very upset.
My favorite piece of “Lost In Space” trivia was finding out a while ago that Bill and Angela hooked up a few years after the show ended and almost got married.
As a kid, I was fascinated by the early episodes of "Space." But as it morphed into the "Will & Dr. Smith Comedy Hour," I stopped watching. Even an 11-year-old knew garbage when he saw it.
Same here. I loved the early B-Ws and liked the attempts early in S3 at getting back to something a little more serious, but otherwise, count me out. Even as a kid.
Actually, some of LIS's best and most memorable episodes were from Seasons 2&3. However, most of them were indeed crap...
I loved the Zachary Smith comedy hour
Some of those Television execs from yesteryear look increasingly narrow minded and short sighted in retrospect. When I was a kid, the early episodes of "Lost In Space" scared the heck out of me.... but I LOVED IT! I was also watching "Dark Shadows" and the original "Scooby Doo, Where Are You?" for many of the same reasons: because a lot of kids like scary movies and shows! The goofier "Lost In Space" got, the less I liked it!
I never understood it. Even as a kid, I was so disappointed when it de-evolved from a top notch Sci Fi show into a campy Sid and Marty Krofft pre-school comedy. The only thing missing was the talking flute.
You might have been a more observant kid than me. I just rolled with the changes and didn't much think about it. When I look back, though, my favourites were early episodes like Hungry Sea, There Were Giants on Earth and Follow the Leader and the Keeper.
My only complaint was with silly space versions of Earth - space pirates and Vikings. I was there for weird aliens monsters, not pantomime characters!
I seem to remember the same thing sort of happened with Allen’s “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea” series.
That is very true :-) I've got some Voyage videos coming up :-) stay tuned, Dan
True. If they'd installed seatbelts in the Seaview, the show would have SUNK due to boredom. LOL
@@MoviesMusicMonsters I love Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea Tv series. I 💕 the espionage, Political And Ailen Stories. I didn't like the monster of the week stories in the 4th & Final season. The Terrible Leprechaun is the worst episode of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. Also Brand of the Beast ,The Mummy, The Terrible Toys , Savage Jungle Fatal Cargo & The Plant Men are also terrible episodes.
ABC believed the audience for Voyage was boys. So seasons 2-4 evolved into a juvenile adventure. Thought the penultimate episode “The Death Clock” was trippy-hippy. 7:30 pm was for family shows. The WWII series 12 O’Clock High went from an adult drama to an action show, because ABC moved its timeslot to 7:30 pm and replaced lead actor Robert Lansing with the younger-looking but chronologically older Paul Burke. I am convinced programming decisions like this made this network consistently third-place in ratings until Jiggle TV in the 70s.
I was lucky to get to have lunch with Mark Goddard and Marta Kristen once. Very nice people, down to earth. They both had nothing but the highest compliments for Johnathan Harris. They said he was the nicest man they ever worked with. Lots of praise for Guy Williams as a professional. Marta Kristen and Mark Goddard were very nice too.
I once met Marta Kristen and Mark Goddard at a convention. Mark was a little uppity, but Marta was very friendly and a pleasure to talk with. I even had lunch with her.
At the time I met them, I was working at a foster home as a teacher. Mark Goddard was doing the same kind of work in Philadelphia. We talked shop most of the time. To me he seemed quite nice. Also working with kids at a foster care facility requires some bit of kindness. Maybe you caught the guy on a bad day. But yes, Marta was also really nice.
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Marta is very sweet
Born Jonathan Charasuchin in the Bronx to Russian-Jewish immigrant parents, Harris adopted the stage persona of a classically trained British actor. And that is just cool!
Yes it is!
Did a good job of getting rid of the NYC accent, if he had one.
Being in my mid teens at the time (and a huge Sci-fi fan), I was bitterly disappointed with its deterioration into crude pantomime and stopped watching the show. The fact that it only ran for three seasons proved that it was a short sighted decision to dumb the show down.
I always thought the show went downhill the moment Jonathan Harris started to camp up the Dr. Smith character. It was like this decision of his marked the beginning of the show's unwatchability. I had also heard or read long ago that Harris believed his character was on the chopping block, so he decided to ham it up as a "F--- you" to those calling for his character to be removed from the show. Maybe that information was incorrect, but I still feel that Harris going camp marked the end of the show's watchability for me. It took the character of Harris' voiced Lucifer in _Battlestar Galactica_ to partially redeem the man in my eyes.
Doctor Smith is analogous to Gilligan in Gilligan's Island. Both the Robinsons and the Seven Castaways are in similar predicaments, and Doctor Smith serves a similar role as Gilliigan in driving the plot of each episode.
@@thomaskalbfus2005 Gilligan was more successful.
@@leerhode1021 that was because Gilligan's Island wasn't a science fiction show, though it did have a professor capable of inventing a bunch of crazy gadgets, but none of which got the castaways off the island!
@@thomaskalbfus2005 👍🏾
is it just me... or is this narrator's voice just pure GOLD! 👍
Haha, hey thanks so much :-) Dan
"Last week as you recall....."
Great vid! I had believed Jonathan Harris' claim that he hijacked the show by his scene-stealing antics. Your explanation makes more sense. As a pre-teen kid watching LIS reruns in the 70's, I absolutely loved the show! As a teen who started getting into Star Trek, I began to totally scoff at the silliness of LIS' color episodes. As an adult, I appreciate the show for what it was. A bittersweet anecdote that demonstrates the impact this show had: I was caregiver for my elderly father who passed away at 93. During the last six years of his life, my father suffered from dementsia/Alzheimers which of course wreaked havoc on his memory. Although a college professor during his work career in the US, he came from a modest background: a Sicilian farm family. One night, my father asked me if I had "fed the donkey" thinking he was back in his old home town in Sicily. When I explained to him the reality that we were in the US and we weren't living on a farm, he realized just how messed his memory was and he replied "I'm Lost in Space like Doctor Smith!" Of all the things that still remained firmly implanted in his fading memory....
Smith went from an evil spy to a spineless jellyfish, all in one season. Oh the pain...
Man, those first 5 episodes were awesome before the start of the slow decline into corporate marketing madness.
Great video! Note that in the movie Lost in Space Gary Oldman played the sinister Dr. Smith - right up until the ending shot were he ran into the cockpit yelling "We're DOOMED!!" as a nod to the campy version of Dr. Smith on the TV show.
Dan, I love your impression of Smith. When my son was little back in late 90s we watched it regularly here in England and when I did the Smith impression he went into hysterics, he still does. Bungling ninny was another
This was my favorite show when I was a kid. Wednesday nights, 7:30, somehow remains special in my mind nearly 60 years later. Even then I regretted the change from serious to campy, but back then, kids took what they could get on network television.
I'm 62 ands a new subscriber. Loved this show as a kid. The dr. and robot together ws my favorite. Thanks for all the hard work you put into this channel.
My favorite show as a kid. The Dr. Smith-robot dynamic was hilarious. And the aliens were interesting.
As a kid watching it after school on weekdays all I remember are 3 things:
1. I loved the dark haired girl
2. Always wanted them to bust out the laser rifles and battle gear more often
3. Grew to utterly despise Dr Smith
Lost in Space reruns always came on after the morning cartoons in my town, so I watched a lot of it as a kid. It’s true that the early episodes had a lot of tension and seriousness, but it leaned into Dr. Smith’s antics after a time. Always entertaining 😂
Dude, your voice is crazy good. Also, there was immense pressure from Jonathan Harris to be a campy villain, of which he played a bunch on stage.
Hey, thank you so much :-) and yes, Jonathan was really good at playing comedic villains :-)
I appreciate your explanation, Dan. I had previously believed the "compete with campy Batman" theory. The "kids' show" distinction makes sense, as
my young boy's eyes looked at the show differently than my adult eyes. I just wish the show had stayed serious throughout its run and given more
dialogue to the other characters. For example, when it comes to Judy, basically all I remember is her flirting with Don and being attacked by plants!
I, like many others, loved the first season. I tolerated the next two seasons because I loved Lost in Space that much. On a personal note: I hope if there is ever a resurrection of the show that You do the voice of the robot! I was very impressed with your take on it!
Hey, thank you so much :-) I appreciate the support. I would love to do the robot voice LOL :-) Dan
@@MoviesMusicMonsters You do a pretty good Dr. Smith too!😂
They did do a resurrections on Netflix.
@@timothyirwin8974I meant if they ever bring back the original robot, I would like him to do the voice.
I think the theme songs and opening credits played into the change as well. The first having more of a sci-fi scare to it and the b&w animated family floating in space on a safety line. Then the second being more upbeat and pop sounding, bright colors and the actual actors in the credits with their colorful, mod costumes.
I love both equally as an adult. But as a little kid, I liked the 2nd opening more.
Jonathan Harris was also a voice actor on “Battlestar Galactica”, as Lucifer.💜😈
Yes he was and he was awesome :-) I'm doing some Battlestar Galactica videos coming up this month :-) hope you had a great holiday, Dan
"By your command."
Yep yep yep,
And every time he KNEW it would come back to bite them on the ASS❗️💜😈
That was an interesting analysis. I never thought about the time slot it was in. But it seemed as if all of Irwin Allen's shows (like Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Land of the Giants, Time Tunnel) started off with serious intentions and gradually veered into campy fantasy. Maybe it was hard to find enough writers to crank out 26 "serious" episodes each season. I read where the writer of The Great Vegetable Rebellion had simply run out of ideas. BTW, all of the interviews with Jonathan Harris are priceless. He was quite a raconteur.
When I watched Lost In Space reruns as a kid, I saw the second and third seasons before the first. When I saw the earliest episodes, especially the pilot, I was shocked to see Dr. Smith and the Robot out to KILL the Robinsons and Major West! It felt like I was watching a different, darker show. I wondered "How could the Robinsons let this murderous duo travel with them on the Jupiter 2?". Actually, "murderous duo" is present-day me talking, 9 year-old me just thought those two were really, really BAD! How can this be?
At the very least, the Robot should have been dismantled or reprogrammed and Smith should have been put in a freezing tube. Instead they were treated like part of the family, albeit Smith was treated like an annoying ne'er do well uncle like Joe Carson in Petticoat Junction.
The voice of the robot, Dick Tufeld, was used in the opening of Lost In Space, The Time Tunnel and even, Peyton Place. I remember my mother sending me out of the room when Peyton Place came on.
Wow! I’m glad you mentioned that! I was sent to bed on the adult stuff too. I’m from the Seattle area. Star Trek came on at 9:00 pm. It was DEFINITELY beddie by at that time. I couldn’t watch it until reruns in the 70s😢
I had heard about the Robot, Wil and & Dr. Smith becoming the most popular characters, but I was not aware of the network execs directions to drive it toward kids. It makes sense as kids buy toys whereas teen boys are off chasing girls while teen girls are busy acting like they don't want to be chased.
Voyage to the bottom of the Sea had the same problem serious the 1st season campy when it went to color
I faithfully watched Lost in Space when it first aired. I was 9 years old and had all the merchandise. However, I much preferred the first season even at my young age and became a Star Trek fan when the original series aired. I also enjoyed Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Time Tunnel, and Land of the Giants.
You know Lost in Space and Star Trek have the same parent, that is the movie Forbidden Planet, the seeds of both shows are in that movie. Forbidden Planet has a flying saucer, a robot, an organization called the United Planets, the crew of the saucer in Forbidden planet is much like the crew of the Enterprise, they have a quasi military organization similar to Star Fleet.
@@thomaskalbfus2005 Forbidden Planet has withstood the test of time, and it is still a very enjoyable movie, and it is well over sixty (60) years old.
It went from a sci-fi series, to the Dr Smith and Will show.
I'd say the 'Dr Smith, Robot and Will' show. A perfect triple act. The rest of the LIS cast basically just faded into the background, and apparently they were not too pleased about it - but I guess they just kept getting their paychecks season after season, and were not doing anything too demanding, so just shrugged their shoulders and kept quiet about it.
@@frglee "The Evil Triumvirate" as I think of them now! LOL
Such a shame. The first season was brilliant. Once it went to color...it became a live action cartoon for kids. Even as a kid, I presumed that Dr. Smith had a mental breakdown, going from proper villain to hapless victim of his circumstances.
James Aubrey was the President of CBS. He was the executive behind Beverly Hillbillies and Giligan's Island. The campy comic LIS was a lot cheaper to produce than the early sci Fi episodes. Cost was a major factor in the demise of The Twilight Zone.
I couldn’t stand the shows you mentioned either! So stupid!
I used to note a pattern with nearly all Irwin Allen series from the 60s. They start out great and then erode into silly. I recall really enjoying most of the first season of 'Lost In Space'. The darker tone of the show as well as straight science fiction scripts appealed to me. I even had the Aurora robot and cyclops model kits. I lost interest in the show when it became silly. The same with 'Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea'. I never gave the others much of a chance because of this. But I imagine TV shows succumb to network execs like this all of the time.
I used to work with Rick Harris, Jonathan’s son. Jonathan would visit us a couple of times a year. Both of them were kind and extremely intelligent. I am grateful for that experience and what I learned.
The Anti-Matter Man is one of the series best episodes.
It's certainly is. One of my all-time favorite :-)
I was ten years old when Lost in Space out and I was in seventh heaven. I loved the show but, I quickly left it when it became a fantasy farce. It may have been a kids show but, not all children are immature during adolescence. I'm nearing seventy now but, I haven't lost the kid in me. Remember, growing old is mandatory but, growing up is an option!
Great breakdown of the change in direction Dan.
Thank you so much :-) Dan
Great voice. Love your delivery and inflection.
THANK YOU!! Dan :)
RIP Mark Goddard 2023
Though I was quite young, I still remember watching first run episodes of this show with my family in '67 & '68, and then watching it in reruns everyday after school in the seventies. I'm 60 now, and my all-time favorite episode will forever be "The Space Creature."
The first five or six episodes of this show was very good science fiction and then it had to change. I prefer the black and white episodes overall.
Me too. The first half of the first season is great sci-fi Adventure :-) hope you had a great holiday, Dan :-)
I was six back when this first aired in the 60s, and I was already a big science fiction fan, spurred on by my oldest brother who was deep into the genre. Initially, I loved the show (especially the robot and the Jupiter 2), but as the show grew sillier and Smith increasingly became the focus of it, my interest flagged--which is about the time when Star Trek hit the airwaves and gained my allegiance. Better ship. Better adventures. Better SFX. Better characters. And, more importantly, some of the best writing in television at that time.
Lost in Space had some decent episodes that I can even now watch and enjoy (though Smith never ceases to irritate me), but far too often it got even the basics of science wrong. It's amazing how ignorant and/or how (clearly) indifferent the writers (and producers) were to getting even the simplest of facts about space and space travel correct. I mean, you knew they were clueless and/or uncaring when terms like solar system and galaxy were bandied about as if they meant the same thing. And there were so many improbable situations, not least being the litany of encounters with other people (some from Earth) who never seemed to be able to help the family get back on track and find their way home (or at least to the oft-mentioned Alpha Centauri).
When you watch the original pilot for the series, you get some inkling of what the show might have been had they not had the Smith character chewing up the scenery and turning each episode into a wearying display of ham acting and over-the-top camp. I don't think it was ever going to be the measure of Star Trek, but it could have been a far better and more memorable (at least in a good way) series than it was.
By the time the third season aired my family had moved to Pakistan (because of my father's work on a Canadian aid project there), so I never got to see those final (excruciating) episodes. Even decades later, I've yet to view more than a handful of season three episodes, and of those there is little that can be said is redeeming. The Smith character had become a parody of himself, so inanely ridiculous that one couldn't even laugh at the spectacle. And you had to feel sorry for the rest of the cast, who often looked as if they'd reached the end of their tether and were just going through the motions, waiting for the nightmare to end. (Except, perhaps, Billy Mumy, who seemed to be gamely playing along with Jonathan Harris' buffoonery.)
In Pakistan I had the good fortune to discover the Gold Key Space Family Robinson: Lost in Space comics, which I initially bought because I though they were adaptations of the TV show. However, the comics were unrelated to the Allen's series, and, in my opinion, generally better. They also had a longer run than the TV series, in terms of years, and remain a favourite collectible for me. If you've never read them, you owe to yourself to seek some issues out and take a gander. Well worth it.
This made me go back and watch the original un-aired pilot with the "Gemini 12", set October 16, 1997) that was worked into the first few episodes (no smith, no Robot). It was an actual serious attempt at "Swiss Family Robinson" in space. It's still "out there" in cyberspace.
It was actually a good pilot,with a couple interesting things.... Judy was planning a career in musical comedy before the family being picked, per the news commentator. Don West held a doctorate, not a military Major, and was their "assistant", not their "pilot", whose study was theoretical fitness for human habitation of other planets.
A couple of nits to pick:
For some reason, with the temperature dropping, John rejects Don's suggestion of staying in the ship, and to migrate south, as if a spaceship designed to travel in the cold of deep space wouldn't shield them from -150 degrees (I assume Fahrenheit).
Don gets splashed off the roof of the Chariot trying to reconnect solar batteries in the stormy Inland Sea, and everyone thinks he's gone, when he's just hanging over the side, which they could see if they just looked at the clear side walls.
John's written log entries (with a voice-over) which revealed that they were traveling in space for over 3 years before crashing (without details on their revival from suspended animation) were a nice touch, as was the ending, with "aliens" observing them after they get to the tropical area, leaving an open ending fit for a pilot episode.
If Irwin Allen had stuck with that, he might have had a true competitor to "Star Trek", but definitely not "kiddie" sci-fi (but, I liked "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" as a kid in the '60s).
But, the later movie remake and the Netflix series showed that you can go "serious" with LiS, but still be cringe-worthy...
Actually the situation with the -150 degree temperature was not really that unscientific. In space objects hold heat much better because of being in a vacuum. In our atmosphere a big part of cooling is from convection, where air brushes up against an object and absorbs heat and carries it away. Same thing when submerged in water. However in space the only way to get rid of heat is by radiation, mainly through infrared light. Think of looking at something with a night vision camera, you are seeing the heat radiating from it. Infrared radiation only eliminates a limited amount of heat however, so the Space Shuttle for example and the International Space Station have to work hard to get rid of excess heat. So the Jupiter 2 insulation could handle being in deep space, but on the planet the -150 air which is coming in contact with the spaceship would pull a tremendous amount of heat out of it.
As for the Chariot, I just saw that as a normal visual discrepancy, sort of like scenes that take place at night, we usually see things a lot better than someone would in real life. That's because if they portrayed how it actually looked then we wouldn't see much and it would not be as interesting to watch. Same thing with the storm, in "real life" it was dark, and the waves were crashing against the windows, sort of like heavy rain in a car with no windshield wipers. So it is quite conceivable that they could not see Don outside. However visually the scene was shot with plenty of light, although made to look somewhat dark and stormy, so that we as viewers could see what is going on. And there was just water (probably buckets of water) splashing against the windows but not enough to stop us (as viewers) from seeing through the windows so that we could see the waves and storm outside and add to the visual effect. So I give them a pass it wasn't really a "goof" in my opinion.
Opening theme music with the trumpet section blasting, basses rumbling was just fantastic though !
Nice video. Thank you. As I said in a reply to another comment, as a kid I actually preferred the earlier B&W episodes, with the darker tone, with that earlier theme, though I have come to like both, in more recent years.
Your channel just popped up in my YT feed and I'm very happy it did. I was 15 when "Lost in Space" first premiered and, along with Star Trek a year later, were my favorite moments of watching television as a kid. I do remember LIS becoming more '"younger than me" oriented with the silly costumes and such, and Dr. Smith becoming annoying as I headed to late teenager, but still enjoyed the show during it's run. Nowadays, in my 70's, I find it harder to watch because of the silliness, but it always brings back fond memories when I do.
"Oh the pain!" Now that would make a good ringtone.
One of the best parts in many episodes was hearing Dr. Smith scream in fear. Priceless. I also got a kick out of when the Robot sometimes laughed at Dr. Smith. Too funny.
The same thing happened to Man From Uncle. I remember Robert Vaughn dancing with an ape in a treehouse. I've always considered it the Batman effect.
Great analysis. I watched those shows as a kid and wondered about the change. A similar thing happened with Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. The first seasons were more serious and then the campy space clowns started in. That giant whale episode scared the bejebus out of me. The newer color season intro theme song was my favorite though. I got my folks reel-to-reel tape recorder to record it and played it over and over.
I don't know the original time slots, but a similar changed happened to "The Man from UNCLE". It was a serious spy series in the black and white episodes and when it switched to color it gradually got campier to the point of being completely silly. I still blame TV Batman for this shift.
Dr. Smith was so flaming, I can't believe he was allowed on the "family hour."
"Oh isn't that Liberace such a nice man, and he so loves his mother."
As a kid we loved Lost in Space , when i watch an episode now I wonder how my parents put up with it.
You have a great radio voice!
Thank you :-)
Billy mumy should have sent Mr smith to the cornfield 😅
And Stanley Adams as "Tybo the Carrot Man." LOL! I watched the first few episodes of "Lost in Space," then, in 1966, I boldly went where no man has gone before.
"Family Hour" didn't become a thing until the 1970's. Lost In Space was on opposite Batman. That's why they changed.
What happened to the space chariot, the badass jet pack... And Penny's alien monkey (debby?). Some of the coolest things in the show... All gone after color transition.
It turned into the Dr. Smith / Will screwing up show, not about exploration. Or 25% about family. Itturned stupid real quick. Love the Robot, Jupiter 2,Chariot. Thats about it.
The channel is excellent, you know your stuff and you come across as a genuine person , no over the top schtick. I'm looking forward to more content.
Have no fear! Smith is here!!!!!
I was 7 years old when this showed debuted and I loved it. You can imagine how bad it was in 3 years when they horrified the same 10 year old boy with what they had done with the show. The episode with Warren Oates is still one of the best TV episodes of all time. Thanks for shedding some light on what really happened.
One other change I noticed was that in the beginning, serious science fiction writers were providing the stories and/or screenplays (e. g. S. Bar-David) but after that all the writers were in-house production staff or "no-name writers" of no known science fiction credibility.
As a child I was thrilled by the special effects that made certain scenes seem other dimensional. Some kind of larger dimension inside of a smaller dimension. That was fascinating and scary to me as a kid.
The very alien design of the alien ship from 'Invaders from the fifth dimension' was memorable...
@@charlestaylor253 Got a link? The show did have it's moments. I like the way they gave each cast member their own episode or two.
@@charlestaylor253 I checked it out. But yeah a lot of their alien tech seemed to be organic. Spooky. Thrilling to us young kids.
After the first season it was unwatchable even for my 10-11 year old self. It was summed up perfectly further down by markkomis6160 when he observed how Irwin Allen had amazing concepts that quickly deteriorated into schlock. The robot is still it's one saving grace!
Not long ago, it was showing on some broadcast network and I snagged it. I remembered it as a child and thought parts of it was really stupid but that certain segments were entertaining. Watching it as an adult, I think two episodes got me to tell my DVR to delete all.
As a kid in the early '70s, I loved Lost in Space... at first. I would come home from school in the afternoons and watch reruns of the first season of the show, on TV. It didn't bother me that those episodes were in black & white. I was fascinated! At school, I would daydream of being Will Robinson's brother and being Lost in Space with him and the Robinson family. I even began writing stories of us having adventures together. But then the show started getting campy, and I eventually lost interest. It was the same with me and the Batman reruns on TV. Even though I was an avid reader of comic books, as a kid, I did not care for that "Batman" - I found it to be silly and uninteresting.
Lost in Space became the Gilligan’s Island of Sci-Fi television in the 1960’s. Downhill as far as serious melodramatic Science Fiction goes .
That's a really great comparison.
Dan, you really do a respectable Robot/Dr. Smith voice.
I was born and raised in Hawaii. We never got to see "Lost In Space" as it was released. The episodes were never shown in sequence, some episodes we never got to see, many times they would show the same show for two weeks, and they were less than 30 min. and the "TO BE CONTINUED..." we never saw in order. All TV was like that over there. Most kids watched it if there was nothing else to do.
I can't binge watch "Lost In Space" like I can other classic Sci-Fi series. No disrespect to Jonathan Harris, but I can only take so much of Dr. Smith at one sitting.
Excellent video. I remember us boys in grade 1 recess marching around and proudly saying, "Crush Kill Destroy!". I think it was 1967. Also popular was "That does not compute". Penny was my first crush.
That's a great story :-) yes, everybody left penny. I'm friends with her in real life, she's a wonderful warm person. Thanks for the support, Dan
I remember thinking the beautiful blonde daughter always looked lost and didn't have many lines
she was lost - in space.
I was 12 years old when Lost in Space premiered and I think there is more evidence that the Batman TV show influenced the change to the camp tone of the show than the "family hour" . There were many shows that were mature and violent before and during LIS series that ran in the 7:30 to 8:30 PM time slot such as Gunsmoke,Voyage to the bottom of the Sea,Combat,Garrison's Gorrillas ,Outer Limits, 12 o'clock High,Rawhide,The Wild,Wild West , Ironhorse and two shows The Virginian and Custer of the West actually ran opposite LIS in the same time slot. In fact many family shows like Family Affair and Andy Griffth ran later in the evening. The "family hour" did not become a set programming practice until 1971 in response to an anti violence campaign on TV that sprang up after the Martin Luther King and RFK assassinations. The Family hour plan also coincided with the FCC rule in 1971 which gave the 7:30 to 8:PM time slot back to the local network channels. Source : The Complete Directory of Prime time network shows 1946 to 79.
Excellent analysis :-) and much of what you said is very true. However, I'm simply going by the reasons given directly between Communications from CBS to Irwin Allen. There's an excellent Trilogy of books by Mark Cushman, on Lost In space. The books take an extremely deep dive into this topic. Yes, once the second season hit in color there was definitely an influence from batman, but I was basically speaking with the initial changes were in the first season. Hope you had a great holiday :-) Dan
I was also 12 and I never missed an episode of Lost In Space, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Combat, The Outer Limits, 12 O'clock High or The Wild Wild West. They all ran in Prime Time and they were all good shows. Great times, when less was definitely more.
"Basically becoming the straight man to Jonathan Harris" 😂😂😂
The noise they used for every huge monster, the screech, whatever ya wanna call it, scared the beejesus out of me when I was 5-6 years old. Never occurred to me that it didn't make much sense that every monster sounded the same.
CBS wasn't called the called the "princess" network for nothing!😄 Even during extreme campiness of the second season there were a handful of good episodes. Thanks Dan!!👍👍
I totally agree :-) thank you so much :-) Dan
As a kid, i remember plenty of times watching Lost in Space with my Grandmother. Later, she took me to a play with Jonathan Harris. Having the chance to go backstage afterwards, the only question my 10 year old brain could ask was, "Was the Robot real?" His reply was pretty cool. "What do you think?" Been a fan if his ever since. Keep up the good work!
I have often imagined what Lost in Space would have achieved in the annals of science fiction history had it continued in the same direction as the first season. We can only guess. However I must say Netflix reboot of Lost in Space certainly sheds light on the powerful potential of the basic premise. Thank you for these wonderful videos Mr. Monroe!!
Netflix messed it up really bad.
The new LOST in Space is shit
Loved this episode, Dan. Excellent points. Thank you.
I loved this show... Even to this day, and I'm 64, I still every now and then fire up those 1st season black and white eps ...They really ruined the show when it turned from dark and serious to silly and campy..
Its a shame that happened ..one can only wonder had it been let progress along its original lines...The robot being menacing, smith being a spy, a saboteur and an assassin, those were just so cool and the 1st season was so atmospheric! The opening episode , the reluctant stowaway, That was Fire! The ship crashing on a planet for the 1st time with everyone in the freezing tubes, Invaders from the 5th dimension, the 1st season finale episode with john robinson taken over by Quanto, ect... some fantastic episodes and writing ...
I loved the first season when I was a kid, I used to rush home from school to watch it, when the second season started I stopped rushing home from school.
The same could probably be said about "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" where that series became "the monster of the week".
But overall far more serious in tone, despite absurdity like werewolf undersea island. Even Land of the Giants, a full on the nose allegory about the thread of communism, had its ridiculously campy moments.
Just discovered your channel, I am blown away by your content and the job you are doing. Thanks!
Been waiting for this one as well
Enjoy :-) let me know what you think :-) Dan
@@MoviesMusicMonsters , loved every second of it especially your spot on impressions , gave it a like cant wait till the next one , also do you have any resources or links for anyone wanting to keep up on the progress of the chariot restoration ?
There are not enough superlatives to describe just how good this video is. Thank you so much for your insight and research. I'm way into my 60s now and I remember how once a week I'd rush as fast as I could to get home to watch Lost In Space. We only had a black and white set, colour definitely was too pricey back then in London, England. That's all I wanted to say. Keep up the great job.
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Now I'm the one with the bad back saying, “Oh the pain, the pain!”
Hey, thanks so much for the support I truly appreciate it. And I'm not just saying that. I hope you had a great holiday and stay tuned for more videos :-) Dan
@@MoviesMusicMonsters Hello Dan. 👍🏻 You'll never have guessed but I'm a Dan too!! 😁
Thank you very much for the nice message, appreciated. KTF [keep the faith] 🤜🏼🤛🏼
RIP Mark Goddard as, "Maj. Don West" who passed away in 2023.
Great show! I have great memories of it.....I recall hating when they left you each week on a cliffhanger....what will happen next? In the 70's did not have a way to record shows, so you were glued to the TV every afternoon/evening waiting to see what came next!
Fantastic video! Thanks, Dan.
Thanks so much I appreciate the support :-) Dan
I watched Lost in Space in afternoon reruns in the ‘70s. “Oh the pain, the pain!” was a favorite quote around our house. 😂
"Oh ...the pain!!!".... of watching this show as a kid
Loved Lost in Space when I was a kid and still love it even though it went campy! My favorite part is the music! One of my all time favorites!
Allen did the same campy/silly things with Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. All these shows became monster-of-the-week affairs with little or no substance. None lasted more than 3 or 4 seasons. Cheers....
Please keep doing your videos on the Lost in Space Show, it was so great and we all LOVE this content. I absolutely LOVED Dr. Smith, I used to laugh my ass off when I was a kid while the show was actually still being filmed. GREAT.. !!!! :) Thanks...
Bill Mumy went on to form one half of Barnes and Barnes, who gave the world the classic gem “Fish Heads”
He was great on Babylon 5 too.
I was about Will's age, the oldest of us four kids, when this show premiered. We were all in.
We played "Lost in Space" off our deck in the backyard all the time.
We didn't have a color TV so we kinda missed their transition from black & white to color.
I had heard that CBS thought the pilot was a bit too slow and insisted on the addition of a saboteur and a robot to provide a bit more action in the beginning. As Johnathan Harris tells it, his character was to be killed off in the second episode, or at least by the fourth, but he kept coming up with character bits to keep Dr. Smith interesting.
The Robot was a bit too scary in the beginning, but it was when he actually laughed that we stopped taking him so seriously.
That "children's hour" theory goes a long way. If it had been on from 9:00 to 10:00 it would have been past my bedtime and we would have missed it.
I do still like the Batman theory because likewise, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and The Wild Wild West also became more campy at the same time. Of course, Gilligan's Island and other such silliness were also very popular at the time.
We did get tired of the "Will, Smith, and the Robot" show, though Will and the Robot were my favorite characters and they both played off so well against Dr. Smith. But I did like the way the writers worked to keep this from becoming the "monster of the week" show.
The Vegetable Revolution was the point at which Lost in Space "Jumped the Shark" as it were. That was just a bridge too far, even for us kids.
That first season is still my very favorite and hints at what this show really could have become.
Born 57, I guess I was the target age for the change. 1952 Superman went through the same format change too. Like Superman, those first episodes were the best, from an adults point of view.