The Hidden History of Manchester's Irk Valley
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2018
- In this video we shall be exploring the hidden history of Manchester's Irk valley. We go on an urban exploring adventure, Urbex and look at the History along the Valley in Collyhurst. This Manchester History video explores the remnants of an old factory, we look at old photo's of Manchester and look at old maps to guide us on our historical adventure. looking at the remnants of the Industrial revolution. Angel Meadow, Vauxhall Gardens are a few of the 5 places we investigate. We can see an archeological dig before our very eyes and see the remnants of old slum houses. These are the slum houses that Marx and Engels talked about in their study of the condition of the working classes. #manchester #history #angelmeadow #urbanexploring
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I really should start Ironing my T shirts 😀
This video is TV quality
Thank you Trev 👍
Totally agree. Production on this and other is top notch.
Scott Rowland Thanks very Much Scott
Martin Zero 😂
Binge watching your older videos once again. In the 1891 census the Ebenezer works is listed as a tarpaulin factory, owned by John Blackwell and company. Great video as usual.
Martin, you are a great and gritty historian, bringing old Manchester back to life. Another great video.
Thank you Julie
I am a Londoner so not local but your videos are great. Love British history.
Very very interesting spent my childhood playing on the red hills. The rock formation was in the middle. Lots of memories thank you for the video. I lived on Churnet Street and went to St Oswalds school. I had a poor but fabulous childhood. Happy happy days. I now live in France but am drawn back to my roots when I return home. A proud Manchester lad like my Father who has sadly passed away.
Hi James thank you for the comments. This video is very local to your roots then isn't it. I would have liked to have seen the area as it was when you were growing up 👍
Hi James. I attended St Oswalds from about 1956 to 1962. This area was part of my old stomping ground. Can't say I enjoyed growing up around there TBH but it certainly was a vast industrial playground for a solo curious wanderer like me. I remember the piles of drums and a cork manufacturer fairly close by. Can still smell the acrid smoke of the cork waste bonfires on the hill top!
Just found your channel. Born in Salford Royal, lived in Wardly west of Swinton. Now live in Canada. Great videos. Thanks, excellent stuff.
Thank you 👍
Absolutely awe inspiring! Your creations just blow me away. A lot of people claim to "love" their cities, but very very few have such an intimate relationship with them. I could watch your work for days. Thank you so much for these!
Thanks very much John
Oh Martin! I would love to explore with you. My Nana lived on Collyhurst Rd. Just down from Eggington Street. Spent some of the best days of my life there. If I had ONE wish I swear it would be for a time machine to take me back and learn the history of these amazing places. God bless you for your work and exposing the past treasures of our lives.
Martin you should consider doing walking tours around Manchester.
I and l'm sure others would pay you, because when you discribe the past (we ) well l do !! wish l was their to experience it. 👍
Agreed.
I drive trams over this area everyday and so I was utterly engrossed. Brilliant research as usual too.
Thanks very much. Thats cool I love that bit of the Viaduct where the two Lines join, one viaduct joins the other 👍👍
Great as always Martin.Whenever I see old pictures of bystanders like the one on the cobbles at the end of Dantzic Street,near Union Bridge I wonder about their lives,how they lived,their hopes and aspirations(if any).You mentioned the grinding poverty of the people living so many to a room,barely existing.We don’t realise how lucky we are today,very thought provoking,thanks for making🌈👍
Mike thank you very much. Yes I do the same, I wonder who that little kid was in the cowboy outfit at the end of the video. Yes we probably live in one of the best ages of Humankind
This was brilliant our kid, I love industrial history. I am from Urmston so grew up travelling around Manchester.
Hello Cliff. thanks very much. yes you and me both love this stuff 👍
The curious nature of adventurous men is a wonderful thing... Great Video Martin.
Hello, thank you for your interesting words 👍Love it 😃
You are very welcome...
Who needs TV when we have productions like this
I love it .. live in the USA now.. Currently San Antonio Texas... but born and raised in Blackley Village... even i the 60's as a kid you could tell this area had importance once but was running down .. great to see it again and hear what you have discovered.. things I remember.. the railway shunting yards Collyhurst were huge.. and Phillips Sticka sole factory any way doing a great job Martin
Thanks very much. Great to know your watching in Texas quite a contrast in places. Am glad the videos mean something to you, thank you 😀
That, was a piece of art. Just blown away by it. Amazing. 😱
Thanks so Much Geraldine. Art...... thats very kind.....I still regard myself as a goon with a camera 😆
Love rewatching some of these,and it just heightens my respect for the hard lives these people led. Never do I see this as romanticizing poverty of this scale,but as we tour a posh manor I simultaneously see these people in my head.
I was born in Collyhurst in the fifties...200 yards from the bank of the river irk....it was called the "rainbow river" back then, because the McBride dyeworks, up stream in Middleton, used to dump their dye stuffs, directly into the river...so one day the river was purple, next day it was yellow, then red, then blue, and so on,...no lifeform, could live in the irk, at that time...
Lots of history Barneys tip, the loco works. On My street was a factory that made clogs and just around the corner a barrel works. As a child I watched coopers make barrels fascinating when you realise it takes years and years to a cooper. The corner shops and lots of pubs. It may have been a poor upbringing but we were happy in a strange way. Really it was village life everyone looked after each other because we were all in the same boat.
Did you live on Churnet st ?
@@mh001h90 Yes happy days then.
@@andypandy955 hi jimmy it’s Mike Healey, good tines when we were kids. Remember you lived on the other side of the street from us.
@@mh001h90 How are you if you are on facebook check me out then I will PM you stay safe.
@@andypandy955 I’m fine , just off to Collyhurst to see my mum and show my sister Pat around Angel Meadow.
Thanks once Martin for an inspiring journey into Manchester's history, with your usual infectious enthusiasm.
Thank you very Much Bob, much appreciate your support
Thanks Martin another excellent insight to Manchester's past.
Thanks very much Steve 👍
Well this vid is now 2 1/2 years old and surely construction of those apartments across from Angel Meadow is complete and the ruins of those slums are gone....the historian in me is crying out with every fiber at the injustice! That's the heart of Manchester's industrial revolution history right there and ought to be preserved.
I've watched a lot of your videos.....next time I'm in the UK we'll be exploring the north and what wouldn't I give to have a guide like you to show me the most fascinating ruins of old Manchester!
Timing is a strange thing. It was only last week that I drove along Dantzic Street, Collyhurst Road and Smedley Road before joining Queen's Road. I hadn't been up there for years, yet here you are right there.
Great video's. Even for someone like myself who does not know the area these are a fascinating insight into our industrial heritage, even my wife finds them interesting. Thanks a lot and please continue the good work.
Great video Martin, I could of sat and watched easy an hour of that.
History under your nose that I never thought could be still seen, before it’s gone for good..
Thank you very much Clay. Yes There is more. I keep thinking of wrapping it up with a B side video 😀
Martin Zero
I like the sound of that Martin, a part 2 video..
Excellent editing work too. I also like your own production music when you use them over a montage..
Thanks Clay. That wasn't music I made. I wish I could make music like that.
Really enjoyed this. Thanks, Martin. I have vivid recollections of walking to my infants school, St Chads, with my mum in late 1950s and walking by the Irk. The water ran either dark blue or muddy yellow, depending on what the dye works was dyeing that day. And I can still remember the stink from the dye in the water. Amazing to think the area was once one of great rural beauty. Denise, author of 'The Cheetham Hill Murder - A Convenient Killing?'
That outpour below Rochdale Rd is the overflow from the main Sewer opposite Collyhurst St Martin that comes down from Blackley, our Foreman John Moores took me down as an apprentice to inspect the cracks in the overflow that were caused by Bradford Pit subsidence, our depot used to be on Knowsley St Cheetham & I used to walk home from there to Ashton New Rd Bradford/Eastlands every day as I was only on £3.50 a week & I gave my parents £3.00, I used to walk down Roger St which was then open to its full width, floods damaged it & it was decided to block one side off around 1970 so that heavy traffic could not use it untill it was repaired but this never happened, the mill at the side of Vauxhall St had 3 letters on the front, I think it was C P A as I used to get mixed up with The P M A on the other side of Collyhurst Rd, on top of the hill on the other side that you mentioned that used to be Vauxhal Gardens was a Company that Recycled oil Drums called Wilcox. all the oil drums used to be stacked high on the top, you have brought back lots of memories again Martin, keep up your roaming videos. Terry.
Terry thats brilliant thank you. Fascinating about the crack in the pipe caused by Bradford Colliery and Roger Street. Thanks so much for the insight Terry 👍
CPA, later Cepea, or Calico Printers Association is, in my opinion, the probable meaning of those initials. In the mid-70s l worked at Tootal Dress Fabrics on Poland Street in Ancoats. If my memory serves me well, the company was known as Tootal - CPA for a while.
@@nomdeplume798 Thank you for your reply.
One of your best to date pal.
Cheers Paul 😀
Hi from Newfoundland. Great video! Love the old industrial stuff.
Hello and thank you. Yeah love the remnants of a bygone age 👍
Fantastic production.
Love it!
I love watching your work Martin
I grew up near there & was often told of the hard men & Scuttler gangs in the area in years gone by some used to use St.Michaels flags as a venue to fight barefist to settle disputes. My make family grew up in Silk St.& Malham Crescent so I have a good bit of local knowledge on it Great to see it Martin thanks a million !👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you Seanna its an amazing place full of history 👌
Martin. Great video. I'm a Manchester lad but left M/C in 1968 for parts forsign. Those are just the sort of places I loved to explore when I was a lad in the '60s. We lived just a few metres from the Bridgewater canal. Of course the water quality so much worse. The industrial revolution wasn't quite dead then! Thanks- really great to watch - keep up the good work. Love the music - sets the scene.
Hello thanks very much. Yep I sometimes do feel like a kid again exploring those places 👍😃
Always look forward to your videos Martin. Informative and down to earth , well done 👍
Thank you Brian, much appreciated. 👌
Very moving film- well edited and presented. Well done Martin.
Thank you 👌😀
I’m from Scotland but I love history, and I think what you do is great and you do it brilliantly!
Extremely interesting, well done. 👍👍
Thanks Brian
Just watched this vid for a second time all i can say brilliant far better than any tv, Martin your a star.
What a wonder video. Thank you very much Martin. I have been researching my family history and found that one of my ancesotors moved from the delights of the rural area of The East Riding of Yorkshire to the Collyhurst Road area you cover in this video. I note they moved to Brass Street, then Buckley Street, close to The Ebenezer Works you cover, presumably attracted by the “delights of living in new homes in The Valley of the River Irk, where well paid jobs for all the family, including the children were always available” What a shock it must have been to see the reality!
Another great video very tough times back then for our ancestors
Definitely Jay
As always just amazing, your way of pointing out the old location with the new photos is very impressive, your enthusiasm for Manchester and Salford history is catching, you explain everything in such a good way, thanks MZ
Another brilliant historical journey, thanks Martin.
Thanks very much Richard 👍
Martin your videos are awe inspiring, thank you for creating them...
Martin, when you were on Sand Street, you missed a treat behind the old boarded up shops and maisonettes. On the precinct is a concrete sculpture called the Collyhurst Totem by William Mitchell. There are several Mitchell totems around Manchester, including 1 in Rusholme.
Martin. Love your work and im from Liverpool.
Thanks Peace and love to Liverpool 😃👍
Fantastic piece of social history, fascinating to watch. Catching up on your back catalogue. lovely use of old maps.
Thanks very much Tim
That was realy interesting Martin love the old maps and the then and Now keep up the good work
i used to play round the river irk back in the early sixties i lived down henden vale which ran along it . the smedley hotel backed on to the river ,
from what i can gather it was branded the most polluted river in britain , this has brought back so many memories,
Very well done again. It seems as if all the major UK cities simply abandoned the industrial areas rather than redevelop them when the industry ceased. It's only now developers are paying attention. I know you were unsure when you got your new camera setup, but the intro here was on a new level. Its upped the game. :-)
Thanks very much, I like a nice intro 😆 Yes we both have a fascination for those remnants of the past that find themselves in the future
Very cool Martin, loved every minute. You should have your own TV show, contact the History Channel. This is far better than the usual crap on the tele. Do you plan on following the Irk to it's source? Im pretty sure it's in Royton/Crompton area from memory.
Thanks Gazz, Not planing to do that. Gotta complete the Medlock first but yes I think its in Royton somewhere
another brilliant film thanks martin
Hey, thank you very much 👌
Fab! Thank you. Even far away in Ottawa I am enjoying your work and how special Manchester is to us.
Ottawa !! Fantastic !!! thank you very Much Paul 👍
8.18 Wow......what a picture ....another excellent video
Thanks very much
Just stumbled on your videos Martin Love em as an ex Brickie I love to see the Workmanship in these old buildings. What does stick with me is how little we are shown of the hardships that our forefathers were subjected too, our politically correct society would rather speak of the Slave Trade than inform us that living in these times in Britain as poor people was Hell on Earth. A few years ago I went to Pilkingtons World Of Glass in St Helens, and the lady who showed us around explained that at that time St Helens was the most polluted place on Earth, where the workers would drink beer at work, rather than drink the polluted water. Keep the vids coming.
Thank you Joseph
Fantastic, thank you!
Another great video. Thanks Martin.
You would think that Ebenezer works site would be crawling with kids. What an amazing place to run and explore! Wow!
Amazing video , very interesting to see
WONDERFUL!!!! thanks.
Great video, further down Rochdale Road there is a building that my grandma says was an old tram station, your maps show tram lines on Rochdale Road! I didnt really believe it untill i saw that! Around there you have Boggart Hole Clough, Blackley Villiage, Charlstown, Dam Head, and all the way up to Victoria Avenue and Heaton Park. Also there was a railway track that went to factories behind ICI that crossed a bridge over Crumpsall Lane demolished in the 90s, and there is some stuff along Harpurhey Road too, i used to explore all around there when i was a kid. At the clough, at the Charlstown Road/Rochdale Road side and around the boating lake it goes back at least 200 years with pics available online.
At Parkmount Road/Rochdale Road junction there was a big hall or mill opposite the Alliance pub that was demolished in about 2002, check that out.
And at Moston Lane/Rochdale Road junction is Harpurhey Baths and accross from there is Factory Lane that has loads of history you can feature.
Great video though i cant believe you arnt getting a million Mancs watching your stuff tbh you deserve more
Excellent work, cheers!
Martin this is a great follow up video to the previous Irk Valley one.A fascinating insight of our past history
Thank you Mike, So much more in that area 👍
Brilliant video. Thank you!
wonderful that was martin well done again to you cheers from trev
My Nana & Grandad lived in Angel Meadow when they came over from Co.Galway,she told us a drunk lady had a Rat suckling off her breast while passed out with a baby in her arms!My Nana said luckily didn't stay too long,well done again Martin once again !
Thanks Seanna. I think that image will stay with me a while 😱😟
Oh give over! She was having you on ! My dad used to love the tall tales Irish friends used to tell him about the old days . So much more imaginative than the English. One Irish lad told him about the rats in his digs that were so massive he had to wrestle with them to get them off the bed. And one was so vicious it actually killed him and i know it was true, said my dad, cos he told me himself. Martin is talking here about Angel Meadow in the mid 19th century not the mid 20th century.
My goodness. How I wish I could unread your comment. 😞😨😖😭😟😱😵😩
Stunning video mate. Great product values.
Amazing video.
Like no.106 fully watched another great and interesting video- You do a great service to Manchester 👌👌 I just realised that’s where I got my drone of you 👍
Yes you did Nathan. Not seen you since. Thank mate
Great video Martin really enjoying all your videos.
Absolutely brilliant very well paced informative great soundtrack and actually interesting unlike a lot of the tripe I've seen on here. Nice one Martin thoroughly enjoyed that m8.
To be honest Id love to see you do something to do with Manchester's musical history I think you'd be able to pull off something special for that. The people the places from Salford lads club to the hacienda Is it something you've ever considered or are considering?
Hi thanks very much. Yes I was going to do something on that. Still might do it.
Quality I look forward to that pal!
I can't stop watching, all videos are so interesting!
Another superb production.
Again brilliant mate, the vid you reference about the mill made me laff like a drain, cos it looked like that was what you were walking down, I love your stuff, steeped in a true love for your City, its history, the little quirks and stories that make the lives of those people long ago vivid for us today, the huge number of people in the comments who grew up in the areas you examine, their love and respect for what you do, you deserve a statue in Albert Square mate, in front of the Town Hall, to remind them to show the kind of respect you do for your City. Total respect mate
Another fab video Martin. Love the old photos
Thank you Joy (Mrs Speakman) 😀
Another great video Martin, Evocative and interesting. Well done.
Thanks very much Simon 👍
Another fantastic video Martin..
Thanks
Many thanks Gary 👍
Mind blown! Thanks Martin!!!
Brilliant ! Thank you Alan 👍
Martin. Great insight to the Irk Valley. Lots of hidden history. Glad you left the waders at home this time. 👍😄
Thank you very much. But you don't like my waders 😟😯 ?
Martin, thank you for this series. This is seriously some of the best content on here. Your presentation and editing is on point, and following your deep dive into Manchester's past is like a vicarious time machine trip. Great stuff!
Thanks very much, yes I loved doing this. I know the area and am fascinated with it
I have just discovered your channel, Martin. Your videos are fantastic and I love your enthusiasm. I live in Royton, which I expect that you know, is the source of the River Irk.
Thank you for your fantastic videos. It's now 11 o'clock and I began watching at 3 o'clock.
thanx Martin ...just had another late night catching up on your vids .......fascinating stuff once again
Cheers John
enjoyed watching this, thanks Martin
Hello, and thanks very much 👍
another Brilliant video, well thought out and captured.. episode 2 tomorrow evening.
Another interesting video, thanks and goodnight ;)
Thanks very much. Experimental music ? Sounds good ?????
Great video, I really love the old buildings and the old constructions and especially theri history
Thank you very much Filippo
Nice - enjoyed that...
Thanks John
Fascinating, thank you!
Thanks very much
Another great video Martin, that timepix site is amazing - thanks for the heads up!
saw those excavations the other week, went back the following day with my camera and it had all been filled in!
Yeah I went back Sunday daytime to film an extra bit for this and they had been filled in. Starting again now just nearer to the Ragged school
Thanks for the timepix info nice one mart
Good site isnt it Jay
Another top quality video. Thanks Martin.
Much appreciated Thank you 👌
Fascinating. Thanks Martin
Thank you
Hi Martin. Have you done, or thought about doing a video on Eagley Mills in Bolton. The 3 mills are now apartments but that whole area is fascinating and there’s a lot of photos from the time when it was still working at Bolton Library.
Fascinated by watching your videos. Seeing the old town on Manchester. Do not know why but I like it, also when I see old pictures/houses of/in my hometown in Denmark. Getting nostalgic. Remembering what my town used to look like 🙂
Thanks you Hanne glad you like the videos
Enjoyed great video Martin brilliant 👍
Thanks Brian 😀
Very anazing video well done
Cheers Richard 👌
Great stuff, nice work once again.
Thank you 👍👍
Fascinating to hear about Vauxhall Gardens and it's "poshness" 😂 It's amazing to think Moston used to be quite a posh area when you look at it now! Thanks for the video Martin 😀
Nice work. Those B/W photographs are stunning.
Thank you Hubert
Great videos Martin. I grew up in Prestwich but live in Berlin now, so wonderful to see the changing face of Manchester and your historical investigations. I remember walking along the Irk in the late 70s, and it stank, with a lot of polluted effluent foaming on its surface. Wonderful to see that it is now a lot cleaner, and really great to see you track the industrial history.
Once again a fascinating video Martin . Thank you . After watching your videos I really would like to visit Manchester one day and see some of these places for my self.
Watching this 2 parter again for the 3rd time as I recently came down to the 'dig' area with my mam the footings for the new flats are well under way and soon that little patch will be lost
Cant help thinking how grateful I am for the filming you do capturing areas that we are losing to 'development' 10/10 again mate. Keep it up
Apologies for the grammar
Thanks Jordan much appreciated
Nice one Martin - top banana. Great style and incredibly informative - a lovely video...
Thank you John 👌