ESTJ preceive their time and schedules being above anyone's else fills me with rage .. they exist in their own little bubble of control and want to get people in forcefully .. it's beyond frastrating
Finally! A humbling watch for sure. Believing in God stops so many of these problems. Your life is a gift, you did nothing to deserve it and there is nothing you can ever do to be worthy. It is only by the grace of God that you are saved, and loved
As an INFP your videos are incredibly helpful for me. I find most info about INFP's focuses on what special little unique loving creatures we are, and very few let me know what my big problems are and how my shortcomings affect others. Your videos are a much needed, loving smack upside the head. Thank you.
The pattern of "Auto VIP" can be really pernicious, and in my experience with myself and trying to correct dysfunctional behavior within me, it's often so big I can't see it. I only recently reflected that there were a lot of situations where I experienced social anxiety, only to find out it stemmed from being entitled to be an important person with a particular person or within a particular environment/situation. Something I used to feel sorry about myself over was instead a situation where I'm the last person who should be felt sorry for! INFPs---please be honest with yourselves with this topic, because if you're not, you can destroy not just your own life but others' lives in the process!!!
@@-Jts Just being brave enough to challenge/catch myself in situations when I am being overly-concerned about others' opinions about me and altering my behavior to appear more favorable, one day/one event at a time. It's really a recent realization, so I'm only at the start of the journey.
@@moodymcsorley7691 Good for you. I try to do the same. I am an ESTJ. My ex-husband is an INFP, married for over 20 years. However, I am now marrying an ISTP and one way you can help with that behavior is by getting high Ti users in your life that are willing to show you when you are acting entitled and then you being able to handle the feedback. I have an ISTP fiancé like I stated and an ESTP daughter. I had to literally make a conscious decision to accept their feedback, examine it with my Si (which I do through my workouts-quiet moments is my point) and then follow through with behavior changes. It has been a difficult two years of learning, but I have honestly become a better person for it.
As an ENFP I’m now pretty good at recognizing when I’m feeling superior and putting a stop to it, but it was a skill that I had to learn. Those thoughts of superiority literally make me feel high lol but I know that if I let myself give in to the high then there will also be a crash (usually in the form of people treating me like I’m a bad person). I think a lot of ENFPs have an inferiority complex that makes us very susceptible to the temptation of feeling superior and you have to learn to fight that temptation or you won’t be able to maintain relationships, and we all know how important relationships are to ENFPs.
The best thing ExFPs can do is learn to stop alienating people so much with Fe critic. Get a grip on yourselves and realize Fi parent needs to stay a bit more internalized. Noone wants to be around subjective moral superior complexes. ENxJs with Ne critic as well, they're the worst people to work for
Hey sir! Love ur content. The "invisible crown of the ego" is real. An INFP here raised to be a breadwinner to a toxic biological family here. A "Joseph" to a family who never gave support.
@@urfavvolivia i assume you are an INFP ,taking turns in being entitled with entjs? But its true, my infp ex believed he was absolutely irreplaceable,lol
@@cynthiajuma9006 we don’t think ppl are better or worse than others. unless we are talking about wealth/ status or quantifiable things. most philosophers won’t open up or show who they are to templars because templars are phony and try to get emotional reactions. This is why the entj being rational just like us is able to give us the space to be ourselves.
Yup. Took the longest time for my INFP sister to realize we grew up in an abusive home, due to being the golden child. She's just realizing in her early 30s how much it messed her up. (She's SD/UF, I'm UD/SF INFJ).
This was so hard to watch. From all the abuse I have had in my life, philosopher abuse has been the worst hands down. I can't believe people like these exist.
@@NourTheDreamer I understand He also says istps decide social norms and I don't see that whatsoever But that's cause we didn't do the work to deserve the pride, once you do, you will be more powerful and have a say. You got it hard cause you have to "create" a reason.
Let’s be real. Anyone can steal, anyone can neglect, anyone can be entitled and anyone can abandon. Shit, I myself have done all of those things. The point is not who does what, the point all four of those things are toxic and should be avoided. We all do all of that. Humans mirror each other.
True. I think he’s referring to primary behaviors. While we are all capable of and can do all 4 of those things regardless of personality, a particular type is more likely to lean towards one negative behavior over another from a probability standpoint. He points out our primary negative behavior based off temple but I would be interested to know our secondary, tertiary, and quaternary negative behaviors in terms of personality according to percentage probabilities. You bring up a good point as any type can do all of the above (I’d imagine a really screwed up individual could potentially be master of all forms of abuse).
I think the number 1 problem I have with philosopher types is they seem to have an “I’m a better person than everybody else” attitude…which causes them to not care about people they perceive as “lower than them”…especially INFPs and ESTJs from my experience.
I don’t know why we come off that way because we do not feel better than anyone else. In fact we are quite objective and rational people. We just have a strong sense of internal confidence because we are secure and generally not needy. We don’t brag or treat ppl differently based on status. Also the whole pedo thing is a ridiculous statement to make. Se controls the physical environment and other peoples bodies. Philosophers are all about order and justice. To label us as most likely to be pedos is a false statement, most pedos I’ve seen were infjs and estps
Kinda true. One if the ESTJs I know has a severe case of God complex. She's a teacher in school, which gives her an outlet to abuse power. But she also applies this demeanor to her daily life, which is not always pretty. Self-importance for sure. She could be a good deal of a person to have a friendship with, but personally I don't think it's possible for her and me. I'm an ISTJ btw, I guess what I just did is that I found fault in another person which confirms my own self-importance issues. Well, it is what it is.
Isn't it the same thing as with NFJs, that they have to "get losers out their lives"? INFPs and ESTJs don't let questionable people into their frame from the start because then they will end up copying their bad behaviours through Ne or Fe and will have to switch the norm, and the corruption of the norm will eventually harm the society.
@@victoriamarfina9819 No, it is different. NFJs doesn't have Fi. And doesn't have this self importance issue. Also because INFPs-ESTJs doesn't have enough Fe to copy the norm, and their Ne is about adapting and mimicking but not about integrating. Again, it's about their attitude.
The cutting people out that don't treat us like VIPS caught me right in the feels... i do that all the time. Of course not like "omg you dont think im a god theres the door" but like... you're not on my vibe? Not caring about the exact things i care about? Behave weirdly to me? Ok bye. Lol.
I can testify from personal experience that Fe doms (or Fe tertiary ETPs) will give you the "don't contact me again until you've sorted your shit out with therapy" or some shit like this. Personally, as a Delta (NFP just unsure whether INFP or ENFP), I find this kind of treatment to be stupid and even cruel. But to a Fe person, that's what "you're supposed to do". And from their point of view that's also what they're "supposed to do" to help me become a better person or whatever. For the Fi, love, relationships, all these matters of the heart, they obey no rules. The heart cannot be put into societal norms and that's why in my life all of my big loves were Gammas and fellow Deltas. Sure, there was drama often, but the feelings of the Fi person spring from the heart, the good and the bad ones. We can hate each other one day and make love the next one. Fe needs some commonly accepted criteria to evaluate whether a person is good or acceptable. As a Te Fi user I only do this with impersonal matters and decisions, aka Te.
Makes sense, I'm usually alone because I feel unwanted. So I just hang in the back. Older entp I know had me working in the front to serve people arriving. I initially wanted to stay in the back and disappear after 30 mins. Ended up staying 2hours. Might get invited but never show up. Or bad memories so I just stay away.
Thank you for educating me more of the Philosopher quadra. While the information is redundant to you, It's absolutely appreciated by myself and others who can use this and apply it to ourselves. I desire to become stronger, to become a better servant as you have to your community.
Thank you so much for these, Chase. For the longest time, I was confused why many had this kind of a behaviour. This explains everything. Many thanks for this series. ❤
Great video. Really grabbed some gems re ESTJ & INFP that hit home. Think OP has a good theory on Dom/Aux Ji users being Self over Tribe, while Dom/Aux Je users are Tribe over Self. It's the natural tendency for those types, depending on attitude of their judging function.
Isn't entp aswell about their comfort. So they should be considered selfish in that sense🤔. And i don't think any infp think they are powerful. I see infp crying in comment section done with their lifes. I also think estj care alot about their loved ones and are very loyal people so i don't think they are too much selfish.
The bible explains it pretty well... the masculine role, protects the woman meaning he's able to die for her, he puts those he loves above himself by being a protector... and he also feels self fulfilled by being a protector That's why male go to war more... But woman can also fight for their country and their loved ones like Esther in the book of Esther The woman goes out of her way to contribute, to help, to nurture, sacrifices her life for the care of others life's... and feels self fulfilled by that as well Male and woman put themselves below tribe but in diferent ways... and they also put themselves above tribe in other aspects
Thanks you for calling out the tendancy for sexual abuse from ESTJ ego/shadow. It’s really a thing. They look so pragmatic and under control that it can take yeeeeears for everyone to even assume they can do things like that. After doorslaming my estj 15years friend I discovered that he sexually arassed a lot of people in our social group, but no one dared to denounce him (beacause of his leader status I guess) until I cut the ties and open my mouth about his sexual attacks
I'm an enfp, and have outgrown the abusive behaviours described for enfp's. I definitely do 'favors' for others, but for its own sake. I feel part of life by contributing to it. NEVER use Se demon. Absolutely not.
‘’Everyone is capable of abuse”. Yep. Loved this…the ending just solidified it all. I am an INxx (not certain of last two, probably an INF, though first tests stated INTP). I’m basically here because I met an ESFP (guessing, as a newbie to MB) and I totally mistook his ES in a vastly skewed way because of how different we were in those functions. It’s startling, yet so profound- important personal work too, to realize how the different types can have a wrong perception of another because of their own personal bias. We can truly hurt another in it. Even when you don’t want to be personally biased, it’s still there. And because of this, abuse presents. We hear it’s very important to be self aware, but should it stop there? Should we also out of love become others-aware? (Learn about their type, learn about who they are and why they are the way they are?). Would that mitigate the prevalence of abuse?
Part B of my comment…. How can one know what is equal exchange in ‘favors’ as you put it!? For example if I walked away from that ESFP as mentioned above, because I thought they were taking from me, but then realized the nervousness of the situation situated in me caused me to misread the extroversion as threatening, how is it I remedy my ‘’sin’’ (Of abandonment, mainly and of ill-perceived judgement?). And how would the ESFP respond that I would know whatever I might have taken was given back!? Is it hopeless?
My ISTJ father in law took 50% of every paycheck from his kids when they lived there and worked, as he sat back and collected government assistance. He was even able to scam his way into taking all of 10k of an insurance claim when my SIL got injured
Just as a side note people who are most likely to sexual abuse statistically particularly if they were abused sexually as a child are at most risk for being sexual abusers themselves to children. In other words if an Infp (or another type) has been sexually abused, it is by far the biggest indicator that person is at risk of being a pedo themselves. This is not based on personality but factual collected statistics on the matter.
ESTJ/INFP dyad is about power and authority. If you abuse your authority while parenting them, they are most likely to do the same when they grow up compared to all other types.
I was definitely mixing up philosopher abuse with wayfarer abuse. The more you know. You mentioned Generation Wealth pertaining to wayfarers (great watch by the way). Are these accurate predictions for the others? - Crusaders : Matilda/ Hunger - Philosophers : Mean Girls/ The Other Boleyn Girl - Templars : Closer/ And While We Were Here - Wayfarer - Squid Game/ The Social Network
INFP here, found this channel recently. The amount of abuse I get here 😆......(I mean.... pedo?, I'm actually a survivor of csa) But I keep coming back to your channel for it. The delivery is just perfect. Apart from the pedo reference, it is refreshing to hear someone that can see me (us) specially my buried flaws. With an ESTJ mum, INFP stepdad and INFP little brother (middle brother is INTJ) this is so true. We are entitled! But I guess that from suffering physical and S* abuse since a young child I can't imagine being entitled to anyone's body or free will. Regardless, thanks for your work.
I'm really glad you brought up the tendency of these types to put their moods and comfort above everyone else. As an istp women who always had it hammered into me to capitulate to others moods lest I "come off as bitchy", it always irritated me that I would do that for these types with no reciprocity. (P.S I still often like these types a lot, don't take this the wrong way lol)
I’m INTJ UD and someone steeling from me is indeed the most powerful trigger to unleash my anger. However, my response is ‘neglect’ or ‘doorslam’, which I find way more satisfying than steeling back. Is that because I’m UD?
C S just have the best description to an accountant (STJ) I know. This lady is abusive to everyone who threatens her VIP status, i.e. treats her like an ordinary person.
@@CSJoseph U think so? Thats an interesting typing, never heard that, I thought ISTP at first but the dude is always about his lineage and his race like no other in the most Te-Si fashion! But trying to review if he's the most unhealthiest INTP until he atoned for his sins seems cool to find out because clearly his Fe is out the gate even if it would be his inferior. Might be UD UF at that.
When you are rich and famous people come out of the wood work for money. Many people sacrifice their children for money. Innocent until proven guilty is soo important. I can accuse people and because I have an honorable reputation people would believe me, that’s dangerous. Men are ruined every day because people are greedy and spiteful. It’s just as believable that MJ had no childhood and wanted to give children what he didn’t have… there’s really no way of knowing but think of this, if your child was Graped, would you want money or would you want Justice? My mom told me as a child she would want him wiped off the planet if he had touched one of her kids… really think it through. Never believe what you are told, there are many moving parts behind the scenes setting the stage. Look at the ‘believe all women’ nonsense. Look at Johnny Depp, Justice Kavenaugh*, look up all of the men who are accused and cleared after their lives are ruined… I was never a fan of MJ but everyone deserves the truth.
@@amalksuresh2538Watch his interviews. He was an intuitive (INFP). His speech is too soft and abstract to be an ISFP guy. ISFP men are more direct and literal.
Do you think Job was an INFP or istj he made a covenant with his eyes and was super righteous but God humbled him and he had nothing left by the end of the test….
Yeah. I feel important most of the time and feel entitled with their service to me especially now that I'm pregnant. But I take time to compensate to be the one serving everyone though when my body is not aching. 😅
Chase how much of a difference does a type change for ex: A Estp who is unconscious focus vs an actual Istj they share the 1st 4 functions but how much of a difference should it make since it's in thee unconscious rather than the ego simply put it 2 Istj in a conversation wit each other and a Estp show up unconscious focus Would The 2 Istjs spot the faker or would they treat it as a negative commonality
What if I in fact feel bad about myself? I don’t think I have nothing but to try to feel better about myself, what can I do to feel better about myself without hurting other people? xnfp
I'm sorry chase but Infp cannot be pedo only. I think correct way is that they're more likely sexually deviant. I've seen some of them especially from western culture, they're quite unhinged with their content but in a form of memes. What you said near the ending about projection, as an Infp I was touched when I was young. That kinda contribute to my nightmares, sleep paralysis, and intrusive thoughts about violations. It's painful, but have Infj twin. It helps because I never leave her side despite ditching me several times while she called me out and humbled me because I never got to have equally distributed power, with me being bullied by peers. All these when we're teenagers, we had a rough childhood. If I'm being reaallly honest, I feel powerful only by actually scaring people that they don't lived in peace. Sexual and violence, just feel numb and nothing. Just pure fear near madness because how quick and visceral their emotions were. I did that when I was young, I regretted it. I think my E6 played a part. Thank you chase about VIP stuff, but I wished you elaborate more like attention seeking and stuff. The details I mean. Still, thank you again.
This may sound harsh… stop playing the victim. What happened to you as a child is in the past. Are you going to hold on to that and let it ruin your future? What does being a victim get you? What happened to you was a lesson, learn from it. Take the abuses you’ve had and decide you will never do that to another. If you perpetrate violence against anyone you are no better than the person who abused you. You do not fix trauma with more trauma. Immerse yourself in books, something that helped me a lot as a child was Mercedes Lackey, her Herald’s of Valdemar series. These are stories of people who had it really bad and were given a second chance, that were able to rise above… there is always going to be someone who has it worse than you, always. You don’t get status or praise from being an attention seeker, “virtue signaling”. You are responsible for yourself, if you do something f**ked up, you don’t get to cry, “this happened to me and that’s why”, you have self determination and no one worth having in your life will put up with the pity stories. The more you replay your past, the more you regress, make peace with it. Learn from it. Teal Swan has some helpful videos, Dr. Joe Despenza* has some great videos about controlling what you say and think, Alan Watts is a great philosopher that spits wisdom. This is all on you. Stop abusing others to ‘feel’ something. The abuse will just grow, that’s why sexual deviance escalates, you start with something like bondage, move on to choking, and then you start getting into darker kinks. It’s easy to see and easy to prevent. Learn about natural law. You have a computer in your hand, use it to better yourself. Being useful is one of the most rewarding things you can do, you are inherently valuable in the eyes of God, not in the eyes of man, prove you are more, it starts with showing others and then it will click with you, you will see that you have nothing left to prove…
@@randomcole619 why would you think that telling my own story is automatically asking for pity party? I feel this is more like my past repeat PAST confession really. You're like the third person who thought I'm fishing for sympathy and both of them have victim mentality, so I cut them off irl. Firstly, I told it so people can learn they can do it well in life too when they read mine. Empathise even not comparison. People telling me their stories but I would never compare others, so I don't know where you get this idea. especially if that person is in the similar situation as me. I even remember Chase told his abuse when he was young, I doubt he ask for pity and I understand him. Yet, I don't think I would ever told him to buck the fuck up because only he can do it himself, same as I'm doing mine. Consistently until now. Heck I don't blame if he's really angry with Infps because imagine some wasted potentials turn into fucking nightmares in his country. Secondly, I've never said my life sucks now that is all. Painful yes, and I'm fighting my God damn Best and learning a lot. If I don't learn, I wouldn't even watch Chase vids and typing this comments. Still, thank you for your advice but you really miss the mark on my post. Finally, about asking to elaborate more about attention seeking and any other possibilities. It is up to him to decide if he wants to give context deeply. If anything, is that I feel horrible for being critical that this video is not enough because it's almost the same as the other philosopher vid. Not much difference but People keep asking about when will this video is coming out in the past and to me I'm already grateful enough. Perhaps you read mine and look that I'm weak so you want to help me by suggesting and advice. I tried to think positive, so again thank you. But part of me is damn, it feels so useless because it doesn't add deeper perspective, context, or nuances. I've already know some of these because again, I watched Chase's vids. Just Feels like wasting my time. I have to read other people's comments and they have a deeper context. Especially they talked about Isfj in Crusader abuse's comment section. I typed too long and I might miss here and there. Possibly you or Chase don't read this and try to understand it, hence as always our thoughts will be ignored again and already being accused of virtue signalling. Gee wonder why the fuck we kept quiet. But I almost have faith that you read this and understand my perspective. Almost. Either way, I think I've really tried and I doubt you will properly read mine. I'm looking for brainstorming but your reply is a bit confusing and I'm afraid they will may or may not be another one, it's still will be useless. So I'm just gonna go back to 'sleep' and have a good day sir/madam Ps: I think it's a possibility you're projecting your story towards me, but what do I know. Also please accept that even though you have the same personality as me but we still built differently. Our culture and background are vastly contrast. Why oh why I'm not surprise if you're from western countries Pss: I've seen your comments. You're really.. quite judgemental and humblebragging. Welp I rest my case
@@jt_rooster3228 I know that, makes more sense with with INFP as authority temples. To gain some form of power in that way is really pathetic. But here's the thing, I wish Chase elaborate more or expand it in organize manner. That's my complain, like why INFP? Is it Si child? I noticed if child function if were to keep violated, the superego doesn't have to deal with the devil. They become the devil themselves. Like I've seen ENTPs, they say they love but they violate people's Fe child that can be really subtle which is insidious. Like Andrew tate trafficking and pimping by tricking women, that's also a form of convoluted ENTP. I don't want Chase to become like that. Worst cases so far I've seen mostly happened is in the western, especially U.S. Because itself doesn't have fair standard rules placed equally in the states especially religions, unlike most other countries. Ironically feels it doesn't have freedom there but only the illusion of it which really messed up, like they don't have wide and respectful 'spaces' per say. Imposing their own rules to one another. I digress, I just want Chase to explain them with more nuanced. Also, I just found out I'm UD INFP, which explains a lot why I'm pissed off with people who misused or not 'stretching' their mind temples. I want proper discussions. I tried to hold back before and be considerate but Chase misused them so much lately, it irked me that I can't scratch them. I'm just afraid he goes a lot to UF more than before. Stubborn motherfcker
@@jt_rooster3228I KNOW THAT, MAKES MORE SENSE WITH WITH INFP AS AUTHORITY TEMPLES. TO GAIN SOME FORM OF POWER IN THAT WAY IS REALLY PATHETIC. BUT HERE'S THE THING, I WISH CHASE ELABORATE MORE OR EXPAND IT IN ORGANIZE MANNER. That's my complain, like WHY INFP? IS IT SI CHILD? I NOTICED IF CHILD FUNCTION IF WERE TO KEEP abusing it, THE SUPEREGO DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. THEY BECOME THE DEVIL THEMSELVES. LIKE I'VE SEEN ENTPS, THEY SAY THEY LOVE BUT THEY VIOLATE his own FE CHILD THAT CAN BE REALLY SUBTLE WHICH US INSIDIOUS. LIKE ANDREW TATE TRAFFICKING AND PIMPING BY TRICKING WOMEN, THAT'S ALSO A FORM OF CONVOLUTED ENTP. I DON'T WANT CHASE TO BECOME LIKE THAT. WORST CASES SO FAR I'VE SEEN MOSTLY HAPPENED IS IN THE WESTERN, ESPECIALLY U.S. BECAUSE ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE FAIR STANDARD RULES PLACED EQUALLY IN THE STATES ESPECIALLY RELIGIONS. UNLIKE MOST OTHER COUNTRIES. IRONICALLY FEELS IT DOESN'T HAVE FREEDOM THERE BUT only THE ILLUSION OF IT WHICH REALLY MESSED UP, LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE WIDE AND RESPECTFUL 'SPACES' PER SAY. IMPOSING THEIR OWN RULES TO ONE ANOTHER. I DIGRESS, I JUST WANT CHASE TO EXPLAIN THEM WITH MORE NUANCED. ALSO, I JUST FOUND OUT I'M UD INFP. WHICH EXPLAINS A LOT WHY I'm PISSED OFF WITH PEOPLE WHO MISUSED OR NOT 'STRETCHING' THEIR MIND TEMPLES. I WANT PROPER DISCUSSIONS. I tried to hold back before and be considerate but CHASE MISUSED THEM SO MUCH lately, IT IRKED ME that I CAN'T SCRATCH THEM. I'm just afraid he goes to uf a lot more than before. Stubborn motherfcker
Thank you for doing such a great and informative video. It gives me insight into my subconscious and teaches me how I become more conscious about it. You're amazing, and I appreciate it 👏❤ Thanks again
I will say the only thing I may disagree with to some extent is labeling philosipher types as pedophiles. Or philosiper types abusing others sexually? I have been pulled into hugs or "harrased" by types that aren't philosopher types.( Which i use harrased loosely because i usually blame myself.) Ive had a estp try to get a entp to grab his arm because of feeling like hes being rejected . There's been a istp and isfp mentioned of abusing "power" over people on the show. I will expose myself and say that my own stupidity has caused me shame in the past because i thought it was okay to visit a templar when i believed we were on good terms and i ranged the door bell and he threaten to call the cops on me. When later i had another estp explain to me he probably just had another women over. Almost had something similar happen to me with an isfp as a child if another si user didnt stop it. I'm just wondering if this is absolute truth or something that is going to be used as a label? Had a entp tell me maybe it's my naivety but i wouldn't expect you to like rock music. But if this is something of a hard cold truth it is something that I would work on myself and have others to keep in check for me. ( Entitlement and abuse of power.) Ever since seeing your older videos mentioning fi being selfish I try and ask my bf if i am being selfish.
My 22 year old infp brother refuses to get a job, clean his room, etc. man you should see how bad an infp’s bedroom can get, it barely even matters to them because they feel valuable anyway… whereas an fe se user would never let their room get that disgusting. My fi critic has me working my ass off, getting different jobs, trying to get better jobs. While my older infp brother plays video games in his room all day, no wonder though because enfj mother enables him and tortures me essentially
What i discovered is that fe users lowkey like being the servants (im not tryna sound rude haha) but my enfj sister said she would rather be the prince than the princess if you feel me. The princess is kinda the star, she would rather be the one giving. Of course she says this but she has fi moments or rather ni moments where she'd like to be the unique special one and i totally give that to her, since i love Ni XSTPs too like to be the lowkey flashy ones but ultimately not the main character
Are you saying that the estj and istj are ne fi because of their being present in the lower half of their ego function stack? It’s odd to place those to as philosophers. They’re so surface level and excessively boring and materialistic, I’ve never known them to be anything remotely profound much less philosophical.
Sad i know no philosophers Aren't they aupposed to be freaking common ? And the doorslam is real lol I don't want to talk to you, i don't want to look at you, i don't want to think of you, i want nothing to do with you, GO AWAY Esit: OK that's actually a useless comment I don't know why I wrote it
You can't. I quit learning Wing Chun because it doesn't matter how good you get at martial arts, it doesn't protect you from surprise attacks (also because I was getting beat up every time I tried to learn).
Depends on the type of abuse. I don’t think it’s the ‘’most’’…. I definitely think they get away with it more. It’s a very underhanded accepted form when it’s there. The abuser is probably not even aware. That’s what makes it the most pernicious.
ESTJ preceive their time and schedules being above anyone's else fills me with rage .. they exist in their own little bubble of control and want to get people in forcefully .. it's beyond frastrating
Finally! A humbling watch for sure. Believing in God stops so many of these problems. Your life is a gift, you did nothing to deserve it and there is nothing you can ever do to be worthy. It is only by the grace of God that you are saved, and loved
As an INFP your videos are incredibly helpful for me. I find most info about INFP's focuses on what special little unique loving creatures we are, and very few let me know what my big problems are and how my shortcomings affect others. Your videos are a much needed, loving smack upside the head. Thank you.
Bc they know INFP love hearing dat shit 😂
y'all are megalomaniacs. it's part of who you are
@@bampoe8670🤭we do because usually we feel invisible
Another hand grenade of truth. You've forever changed how I look at my own quadra.
The pattern of "Auto VIP" can be really pernicious, and in my experience with myself and trying to correct dysfunctional behavior within me, it's often so big I can't see it. I only recently reflected that there were a lot of situations where I experienced social anxiety, only to find out it stemmed from being entitled to be an important person with a particular person or within a particular environment/situation. Something I used to feel sorry about myself over was instead a situation where I'm the last person who should be felt sorry for!
INFPs---please be honest with yourselves with this topic, because if you're not, you can destroy not just your own life but others' lives in the process!!!
@@-Jts Just being brave enough to challenge/catch myself in situations when I am being overly-concerned about others' opinions about me and altering my behavior to appear more favorable, one day/one event at a time. It's really a recent realization, so I'm only at the start of the journey.
@@moodymcsorley7691 Good for you. I try to do the same. I am an ESTJ. My ex-husband is an INFP, married for over 20 years. However, I am now marrying an ISTP and one way you can help with that behavior is by getting high Ti users in your life that are willing to show you when you are acting entitled and then you being able to handle the feedback. I have an ISTP fiancé like I stated and an ESTP daughter. I had to literally make a conscious decision to accept their feedback, examine it with my Si (which I do through my workouts-quiet moments is my point) and then follow through with behavior changes. It has been a difficult two years of learning, but I have honestly become a better person for it.
Being the stepfather to two philosophers I couldn’t agree more about the Si Fi self importance. It’s so true.
As an ENFP I’m now pretty good at recognizing when I’m feeling superior and putting a stop to it, but it was a skill that I had to learn. Those thoughts of superiority literally make me feel high lol but I know that if I let myself give in to the high then there will also be a crash (usually in the form of people treating me like I’m a bad person). I think a lot of ENFPs have an inferiority complex that makes us very susceptible to the temptation of feeling superior and you have to learn to fight that temptation or you won’t be able to maintain relationships, and we all know how important relationships are to ENFPs.
Inferiority complex, stubborn, sore loser, its my way or the highway, with me or against me, etc
Fe critic can be brutal with Ni nemesis
The best thing ExFPs can do is learn to stop alienating people so much with Fe critic. Get a grip on yourselves and realize Fi parent needs to stay a bit more internalized. Noone wants to be around subjective moral superior complexes. ENxJs with Ne critic as well, they're the worst people to work for
Hey sir! Love ur content. The "invisible crown of the ego" is real. An INFP here raised to be a breadwinner to a toxic biological family here. A "Joseph" to a family who never gave support.
You are such a brave soul! My heart goes out for every INFP that has been disadvantage in life due to a toxic family !!
Knowing that templars can simply dodge this by giving someone new and better, better treatment and importance is funny hehe.
Philosophers are too entitled to even consider the new person is better, this is why we love entjs because we can be entitled together!
@@urfavvolivia lol I didn't understand but ok
@@urfavvolivia i assume you are an INFP ,taking turns in being entitled with entjs?
But its true, my infp ex believed he was absolutely irreplaceable,lol
@@cynthiajuma9006 we don’t think ppl are better or worse than others. unless we are talking about wealth/ status or quantifiable things. most philosophers won’t open up or show who they are to templars because templars are phony and try to get emotional reactions. This is why the entj being rational just like us is able to give us the space to be ourselves.
Templars don't realize how much power they wield. Alot of them need to stop acting like Crusaders, scared all the time and go their own way
21:04
Here Chase came one step closer to full transformation into Joker
Special Agent C.J getting it done
As much as I can
Philosopher types = Golden Children in narcissistic homes and dissociated
wdym?
wayfarers are family outcasts?
@@qasimimtiaz9668arguably. Wayfarers dislike their families most, but Templars are most likely to disown their families
Yup. Took the longest time for my INFP sister to realize we grew up in an abusive home, due to being the golden child. She's just realizing in her early 30s how much it messed her up. (She's SD/UF, I'm UD/SF INFJ).
This was so hard to watch. From all the abuse I have had in my life, philosopher abuse has been the worst hands down. I can't believe people like these exist.
Please make a video explaining why you think INFPs are the most powerful PLEASE
They produce authority
@@malakashraf2801 Okay and ?
@@NourTheDreamer produce as in create reasons to deserve it , create entities and rules and new realities
So of course they will be the most powerful
@@malakashraf2801 Have you actually ever met an INFP?
To me, it seems absurd, to me, I think I am the least powerful
@@NourTheDreamer I understand
He also says istps decide social norms and I don't see that whatsoever
But that's cause we didn't do the work to deserve the pride, once you do, you will be more powerful and have a say.
You got it hard cause you have to "create" a reason.
Let’s be real. Anyone can steal, anyone can neglect, anyone can be entitled and anyone can abandon. Shit, I myself have done all of those things. The point is not who does what, the point all four of those things are toxic and should be avoided. We all do all of that. Humans mirror each other.
True. I think he’s referring to primary behaviors. While we are all capable of and can do all 4 of those things regardless of personality, a particular type is more likely to lean towards one negative behavior over another from a probability standpoint. He points out our primary negative behavior based off temple but I would be interested to know our secondary, tertiary, and quaternary negative behaviors in terms of personality according to percentage probabilities. You bring up a good point as any type can do all of the above (I’d imagine a really screwed up individual could potentially be master of all forms of abuse).
I appreciate this episode 🌸
Thank you, Chase, for completing this series 🙇🏻♀️
Is this why these VIP wannabes cry over other rich people, but wanting to be rich themselves?
I think the number 1 problem I have with philosopher types is they seem to have an “I’m a better person than everybody else” attitude…which causes them to not care about people they perceive as “lower than them”…especially INFPs and ESTJs from my experience.
I don’t know why we come off that way because we do not feel better than anyone else. In fact we are quite objective and rational people. We just have a strong sense of internal confidence because we are secure and generally not needy. We don’t brag or treat ppl differently based on status. Also the whole pedo thing is a ridiculous statement to make. Se controls the physical environment and other peoples bodies. Philosophers are all about order and justice. To label us as most likely to be pedos is a false statement, most pedos I’ve seen were infjs and estps
Kinda true. One if the ESTJs I know has a severe case of God complex. She's a teacher in school, which gives her an outlet to abuse power. But she also applies this demeanor to her daily life, which is not always pretty. Self-importance for sure. She could be a good deal of a person to have a friendship with, but personally I don't think it's possible for her and me. I'm an ISTJ btw, I guess what I just did is that I found fault in another person which confirms my own self-importance issues. Well, it is what it is.
Isn't it the same thing as with NFJs, that they have to "get losers out their lives"?
INFPs and ESTJs don't let questionable people into their frame from the start because then they will end up copying their bad behaviours through Ne or Fe and will have to switch the norm, and the corruption of the norm will eventually harm the society.
@@victoriamarfina9819 No, it is different. NFJs doesn't have Fi. And doesn't have this self importance issue.
Also because INFPs-ESTJs doesn't have enough Fe to copy the norm, and their Ne is about adapting and mimicking but not about integrating.
Again, it's about their attitude.
Try having an ESTJ sibling with this problem. Very off putting and I don't have a good relationship with them because of it.
The cutting people out that don't treat us like VIPS caught me right in the feels... i do that all the time. Of course not like "omg you dont think im a god theres the door" but like... you're not on my vibe? Not caring about the exact things i care about? Behave weirdly to me? Ok bye. Lol.
Been waiting for this one. Definitely rings true.
I can testify from personal experience that Fe doms (or Fe tertiary ETPs) will give you the "don't contact me again until you've sorted your shit out with therapy" or some shit like this.
Personally, as a Delta (NFP just unsure whether INFP or ENFP), I find this kind of treatment to be stupid and even cruel.
But to a Fe person, that's what "you're supposed to do". And from their point of view that's also what they're "supposed to do" to help me become a better person or whatever.
For the Fi, love, relationships, all these matters of the heart, they obey no rules. The heart cannot be put into societal norms and that's why in my life all of my big loves were Gammas and fellow Deltas.
Sure, there was drama often, but the feelings of the Fi person spring from the heart, the good and the bad ones. We can hate each other one day and make love the next one.
Fe needs some commonly accepted criteria to evaluate whether a person is good or acceptable.
As a Te Fi user I only do this with impersonal matters and decisions, aka Te.
Makes sense, I'm usually alone because I feel unwanted. So I just hang in the back. Older entp I know had me working in the front to serve people arriving. I initially wanted to stay in the back and disappear after 30 mins. Ended up staying 2hours.
Might get invited but never show up. Or bad memories so I just stay away.
ISTJ?
@@cynthiajuma9006 close but no.
Many older ENTPs love to fill the cracks of events with their liquid Ne due to their incredible utilization of their Si.
Thank you for educating me more of the Philosopher quadra. While the information is redundant to you, It's absolutely appreciated by myself and others who can use this and apply it to ourselves.
I desire to become stronger, to become a better servant as you have to your community.
Funny because he typed Chris Hanson as ESTJ lol he is the host of To Catch a Predator
Thank you so much for these, Chase.
For the longest time, I was confused why many had this kind of a behaviour.
This explains everything.
Many thanks for this series. ❤
Great video. Really grabbed some gems re ESTJ & INFP that hit home. Think OP has a good theory on Dom/Aux Ji users being Self over Tribe, while Dom/Aux Je users are Tribe over Self. It's the natural tendency for those types, depending on attitude of their judging function.
Isn't entp aswell about their comfort. So they should be considered selfish in that sense🤔. And i don't think any infp think they are powerful. I see infp crying in comment section done with their lifes. I also think estj care alot about their loved ones and are very loyal people so i don't think they are too much selfish.
Humanity is a feminine race bc we put self above tribe? Thats masculinity according to your definitions actually
The bible explains it pretty well... the masculine role, protects the woman meaning he's able to die for her, he puts those he loves above himself by being a protector... and he also feels self fulfilled by being a protector
That's why male go to war more...
But woman can also fight for their country and their loved ones like Esther in the book of Esther
The woman goes out of her way to contribute, to help, to nurture, sacrifices her life for the care of others life's... and feels self fulfilled by that as well
Male and woman put themselves below tribe but in diferent ways... and they also put themselves above tribe in other aspects
Thanks you for calling out the tendancy for sexual abuse from ESTJ ego/shadow. It’s really a thing.
They look so pragmatic and under control that it can take yeeeeears for everyone to even assume they can do things like that.
After doorslaming my estj 15years friend I discovered that he sexually arassed a lot of people in our social group, but no one dared to denounce him (beacause of his leader status I guess) until I cut the ties and open my mouth about his sexual attacks
lot of estjs are gay or bisexual
How do you know that?
Yikes
Made me think about a few things in the past ... , I have a few philosophers in my home . Thank you for this
I'm an enfp, and have outgrown the abusive behaviours described for enfp's. I definitely do 'favors' for others, but for its own sake. I feel part of life by contributing to it. NEVER use Se demon. Absolutely not.
Loved the video. Breadth and scope of temperaments discussed was educational and relatable.
‘’Everyone is capable of abuse”. Yep.
Loved this…the ending just solidified it all.
I am an INxx (not certain of last two, probably an INF, though first tests stated INTP). I’m basically here because I met an ESFP (guessing, as a newbie to MB) and I totally mistook his ES in a vastly skewed way because of how different we were in those functions. It’s startling, yet so profound- important personal work too, to realize how the different types can have a wrong perception of another because of their own personal bias. We can truly hurt another in it. Even when you don’t want to be personally biased, it’s still there. And because of this, abuse presents.
We hear it’s very important to be self aware, but should it stop there? Should we also out of love become others-aware? (Learn about their type, learn about who they are and why they are the way they are?). Would that mitigate the prevalence of abuse?
Part B of my comment…. How can one know what is equal exchange in ‘favors’ as you put it!? For example if I walked away from that ESFP as mentioned above, because I thought they were taking from me, but then realized the nervousness of the situation situated in me caused me to misread the extroversion as threatening, how is it I remedy my ‘’sin’’ (Of abandonment, mainly and of ill-perceived judgement?). And how would the ESFP respond that I would know whatever I might have taken was given back!? Is it hopeless?
I like the way CSJ just suddenly spits.
My ISTJ father in law took 50% of every paycheck from his kids when they lived there and worked, as he sat back and collected government assistance. He was even able to scam his way into taking all of 10k of an insurance claim when my SIL got injured
Another great video Chase!
Just as a side note people who are most likely to sexual abuse statistically particularly if they were abused sexually as a child are at most risk for being sexual abusers themselves to children. In other words if an Infp (or another type) has been sexually abused, it is by far the biggest indicator that person is at risk of being a pedo themselves. This is not based on personality but factual collected statistics on the matter.
ESTJ/INFP dyad is about power and authority. If you abuse your authority while parenting them, they are most likely to do the same when they grow up compared to all other types.
Great explanation and insight! No one is above reproach…even the infps lol
What a beautiful view of the lake and hills behind you.
I was definitely mixing up philosopher abuse with wayfarer abuse. The more you know. You mentioned Generation Wealth pertaining to wayfarers (great watch by the way).
Are these accurate predictions for the others?
- Crusaders : Matilda/ Hunger
- Philosophers : Mean Girls/ The Other Boleyn Girl
- Templars : Closer/ And While We Were Here
- Wayfarer - Squid Game/ The Social Network
philosopher psrents either have authoritarian or neglectful parenting style in my opinion
Authority is great, this is what kids these days are lacking.
@@superXfairXgirlauthoritative is better
@@qasimimtiaz9668depends on the kids type. Honestly, i think neglectful is mostly better
@@choco1199neglectful is cold lol
@@qasimimtiaz9668 not saying its good. Just better than being bullied.
INFP here, found this channel recently. The amount of abuse I get here 😆......(I mean.... pedo?, I'm actually a survivor of csa) But I keep coming back to your channel for it. The delivery is just perfect. Apart from
the pedo reference, it is refreshing to hear someone that can see me (us) specially my buried flaws. With an ESTJ mum, INFP stepdad and INFP little brother (middle brother is INTJ) this is so true. We are entitled! But I guess that from suffering physical and S* abuse since a young child I can't imagine being entitled to anyone's body or free will. Regardless, thanks for your work.
I'm really glad you brought up the tendency of these types to put their moods and comfort above everyone else. As an istp women who always had it hammered into me to capitulate to others moods lest I "come off as bitchy", it always irritated me that I would do that for these types with no reciprocity. (P.S I still often like these types a lot, don't take this the wrong way lol)
lot of schoolyard bullies are estjs
However i try to humble myself and serve people because i expect those people to treat me how i treat them. It does kinda sound egotistical 😂
I'd say not "expect" but more like "hope". There's no guaranty people will return the favour, but at least it feels right to help when you can.
the "fuel" can definitely cross over with the "narcissist" spectrum of traits
I’m INTJ UD and someone steeling from me is indeed the most powerful trigger to unleash my anger. However, my response is ‘neglect’ or ‘doorslam’, which I find way more satisfying than steeling back. Is that because I’m UD?
*I’m Kind of a Big Deal*
I really appreciate your honesty. I needed to hear this to keep myself grounded.
C S just have the best description to an accountant (STJ) I know. This lady is abusive to everyone who threatens her VIP status, i.e. treats her like an ordinary person.
17:40 Well ain't that the "Prince of all Saiyans" ESTJ Vegeta from DBZ? Lol
Hes INTP
@@CSJoseph U think so? Thats an interesting typing, never heard that, I thought ISTP at first but the dude is always about his lineage and his race like no other in the most Te-Si fashion! But trying to review if he's the most unhealthiest INTP until he atoned for his sins seems cool to find out because clearly his Fe is out the gate even if it would be his inferior. Might be UD UF at that.
@@redroverlyIsn't Bulma ENTP? How does that work?
@@SS-bu8ez Idk about her type. Are u asking how their relationship would work in the cognitive realm?
@@redroverly Yes. I do think she's an ENTP. Ne-Ti
Because the way of intuition is better than the way of the sensory
Well, Michael Jackson,an INFP ,was accused of being pedophilic😔
People typed him as Isfp? I'm confused which one is true
When you are rich and famous people come out of the wood work for money. Many people sacrifice their children for money. Innocent until proven guilty is soo important. I can accuse people and because I have an honorable reputation people would believe me, that’s dangerous. Men are ruined every day because people are greedy and spiteful. It’s just as believable that MJ had no childhood and wanted to give children what he didn’t have… there’s really no way of knowing but think of this, if your child was Graped, would you want money or would you want Justice? My mom told me as a child she would want him wiped off the planet if he had touched one of her kids… really think it through. Never believe what you are told, there are many moving parts behind the scenes setting the stage. Look at the ‘believe all women’ nonsense. Look at Johnny Depp, Justice Kavenaugh*, look up all of the men who are accused and cleared after their lives are ruined… I was never a fan of MJ but everyone deserves the truth.
I don't think he was one. Then again, these Hollywood handlers control the narrative and decide who to sacrifice.
I think more probably an isfp
@@amalksuresh2538Watch his interviews. He was an intuitive (INFP). His speech is too soft and abstract to be an ISFP guy. ISFP men are more direct and literal.
Do you think Job was an INFP or istj he made a covenant with his eyes and was super righteous but God humbled him and he had nothing left by the end of the test….
Yeah. I feel important most of the time and feel entitled with their service to me especially now that I'm pregnant. But I take time to compensate to be the one serving everyone though when my body is not aching. 😅
Curious about the analogy mentioned at the end. How do earth and water expire? I would imagine it is the opposite can someone please explain
Is this the quadra who are most considered narcissistic?
Every dog has its day!!! Every dog has its day!!!!! Give up on giving up , never quit !!! ‼️‼️‼️
10:15 reddit said you are not always so humble 😂
Bros bragging about how he’s humble 😭
Random question you ever seen Akira? What types do you think Kaneda and Tetsuo are
Chase how much of a difference does a type change for ex: A Estp who is unconscious focus vs an actual Istj they share the 1st 4 functions but how much of a difference should it make since it's in thee unconscious rather than the ego simply put it 2 Istj in a conversation wit each other and a Estp show up unconscious focus Would The 2 Istjs spot the faker or would they treat it as a negative commonality
Harsh, glad I'm not one of those. INFPs are the best hackers but often for the wrong reasons
hackers of humans?
@@somyatiwari8071of authority and power.
Thank you! Always educational!
What if I in fact feel bad about myself? I don’t think I have nothing but to try to feel better about myself, what can I do to feel better about myself without hurting other people?
xnfp
I think you could start with looking at the word repeated most in this question. Change your focus
@@choco1199
You got a good point
I should stop putting so mush focus on myself
I don’t know how many times I’ve written this word 😭
I'm sorry chase but Infp cannot be pedo only. I think correct way is that they're more likely sexually deviant. I've seen some of them especially from western culture, they're quite unhinged with their content but in a form of memes. What you said near the ending about projection, as an Infp I was touched when I was young. That kinda contribute to my nightmares, sleep paralysis, and intrusive thoughts about violations.
It's painful, but have Infj twin. It helps because I never leave her side despite ditching me several times while she called me out and humbled me because I never got to have equally distributed power, with me being bullied by peers. All these when we're teenagers, we had a rough childhood. If I'm being reaallly honest, I feel powerful only by actually scaring people that they don't lived in peace. Sexual and violence, just feel numb and nothing. Just pure fear near madness because how quick and visceral their emotions were. I did that when I was young, I regretted it. I think my E6 played a part. Thank you chase about VIP stuff, but I wished you elaborate more like attention seeking and stuff. The details I mean. Still, thank you again.
This may sound harsh… stop playing the victim. What happened to you as a child is in the past. Are you going to hold on to that and let it ruin your future? What does being a victim get you? What happened to you was a lesson, learn from it. Take the abuses you’ve had and decide you will never do that to another. If you perpetrate violence against anyone you are no better than the person who abused you. You do not fix trauma with more trauma. Immerse yourself in books, something that helped me a lot as a child was Mercedes Lackey, her Herald’s of Valdemar series. These are stories of people who had it really bad and were given a second chance, that were able to rise above… there is always going to be someone who has it worse than you, always. You don’t get status or praise from being an attention seeker, “virtue signaling”. You are responsible for yourself, if you do something f**ked up, you don’t get to cry, “this happened to me and that’s why”, you have self determination and no one worth having in your life will put up with the pity stories. The more you replay your past, the more you regress, make peace with it. Learn from it. Teal Swan has some helpful videos, Dr. Joe Despenza* has some great videos about controlling what you say and think, Alan Watts is a great philosopher that spits wisdom. This is all on you. Stop abusing others to ‘feel’ something. The abuse will just grow, that’s why sexual deviance escalates, you start with something like bondage, move on to choking, and then you start getting into darker kinks. It’s easy to see and easy to prevent. Learn about natural law. You have a computer in your hand, use it to better yourself. Being useful is one of the most rewarding things you can do, you are inherently valuable in the eyes of God, not in the eyes of man, prove you are more, it starts with showing others and then it will click with you, you will see that you have nothing left to prove…
@@randomcole619 why would you think that telling my own story is automatically asking for pity party? I feel this is more like my past repeat PAST confession really. You're like the third person who thought I'm fishing for sympathy and both of them have victim mentality, so I cut them off irl. Firstly, I told it so people can learn they can do it well in life too when they read mine. Empathise even not comparison. People telling me their stories but I would never compare others, so I don't know where you get this idea. especially if that person is in the similar situation as me. I even remember Chase told his abuse when he was young, I doubt he ask for pity and I understand him. Yet, I don't think I would ever told him to buck the fuck up because only he can do it himself, same as I'm doing mine. Consistently until now. Heck I don't blame if he's really angry with Infps because imagine some wasted potentials turn into fucking nightmares in his country. Secondly, I've never said my life sucks now that is all. Painful yes, and I'm fighting my God damn Best and learning a lot. If I don't learn, I wouldn't even watch Chase vids and typing this comments. Still, thank you for your advice but you really miss the mark on my post. Finally, about asking to elaborate more about attention seeking and any other possibilities. It is up to him to decide if he wants to give context deeply. If anything, is that I feel horrible for being critical that this video is not enough because it's almost the same as the other philosopher vid. Not much difference but People keep asking about when will this video is coming out in the past and to me I'm already grateful enough.
Perhaps you read mine and look that I'm weak so you want to help me by suggesting and advice. I tried to think positive, so again thank you. But part of me is damn, it feels so useless because it doesn't add deeper perspective, context, or nuances. I've already know some of these because again, I watched Chase's vids. Just Feels like wasting my time. I have to read other people's comments and they have a deeper context. Especially they talked about Isfj in Crusader abuse's comment section.
I typed too long and I might miss here and there. Possibly you or Chase don't read this and try to understand it, hence as always our thoughts will be ignored again and already being accused of virtue signalling. Gee wonder why the fuck we kept quiet. But I almost have faith that you read this and understand my perspective. Almost.
Either way, I think I've really tried and I doubt you will properly read mine. I'm looking for brainstorming but your reply is a bit confusing and I'm afraid they will may or may not be another one, it's still will be useless. So I'm just gonna go back to 'sleep' and have a good day sir/madam
Ps: I think it's a possibility you're projecting your story towards me, but what do I know. Also please accept that even though you have the same personality as me but we still built differently. Our culture and background are vastly contrast. Why oh why I'm not surprise if you're from western countries
Pss: I've seen your comments. You're really.. quite judgemental and humblebragging. Welp I rest my case
He’s saying they’re most likely to be pedo.
@@jt_rooster3228 I know that, makes more sense with with INFP as authority temples. To gain some form of power in that way is really pathetic. But here's the thing, I wish Chase elaborate more or expand it in organize manner. That's my complain, like why INFP? Is it Si child? I noticed if child function if were to keep violated, the superego doesn't have to deal with the devil. They become the devil themselves. Like I've seen ENTPs, they say they love but they violate people's Fe child that can be really subtle which is insidious. Like Andrew tate trafficking and pimping by tricking women, that's also a form of convoluted ENTP. I don't want Chase to become like that. Worst cases so far I've seen mostly happened is in the western, especially U.S. Because itself doesn't have fair standard rules placed equally in the states especially religions, unlike most other countries. Ironically feels it doesn't have freedom there but only the illusion of it which really messed up, like they don't have wide and respectful 'spaces' per say. Imposing their own rules to one another. I digress, I just want Chase to explain them with more nuanced. Also, I just found out I'm UD INFP, which explains a lot why I'm pissed off with people who misused or not 'stretching' their mind temples. I want proper discussions. I tried to hold back before and be considerate but Chase misused them so much lately, it irked me that I can't scratch them. I'm just afraid he goes a lot to UF more than before. Stubborn motherfcker
@@jt_rooster3228I KNOW THAT, MAKES MORE SENSE WITH WITH INFP AS AUTHORITY TEMPLES. TO GAIN SOME FORM OF POWER IN THAT WAY IS REALLY PATHETIC. BUT HERE'S THE THING, I WISH CHASE ELABORATE MORE OR EXPAND IT IN ORGANIZE MANNER. That's my complain, like WHY INFP? IS IT SI CHILD? I NOTICED IF CHILD FUNCTION IF WERE TO KEEP abusing it, THE SUPEREGO DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE DEVIL. THEY BECOME THE DEVIL THEMSELVES. LIKE I'VE SEEN ENTPS, THEY SAY THEY LOVE BUT THEY VIOLATE his own FE CHILD THAT CAN BE REALLY SUBTLE WHICH US INSIDIOUS. LIKE ANDREW TATE TRAFFICKING AND PIMPING BY TRICKING WOMEN, THAT'S ALSO A FORM OF CONVOLUTED ENTP. I DON'T WANT CHASE TO BECOME LIKE THAT. WORST CASES SO FAR I'VE SEEN MOSTLY HAPPENED IS IN THE WESTERN, ESPECIALLY U.S. BECAUSE ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE FAIR STANDARD RULES PLACED EQUALLY IN THE STATES ESPECIALLY RELIGIONS. UNLIKE MOST OTHER COUNTRIES. IRONICALLY FEELS IT DOESN'T HAVE FREEDOM THERE BUT only THE ILLUSION OF IT WHICH REALLY MESSED UP, LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE WIDE AND RESPECTFUL 'SPACES' PER SAY. IMPOSING THEIR OWN RULES TO ONE ANOTHER. I DIGRESS, I JUST WANT CHASE TO EXPLAIN THEM WITH MORE NUANCED. ALSO, I JUST FOUND OUT I'M UD INFP. WHICH EXPLAINS A LOT WHY I'm PISSED OFF WITH PEOPLE WHO MISUSED OR NOT 'STRETCHING' THEIR MIND TEMPLES. I WANT PROPER DISCUSSIONS. I tried to hold back before and be considerate but CHASE MISUSED THEM SO MUCH lately, IT IRKED ME that I CAN'T SCRATCH THEM. I'm just afraid he goes to uf a lot more than before. Stubborn motherfcker
Harmony will prevail!!!
22:05 Gold
Your stuff is very good - I wonder what your sources are / how you reach your insights etc. Super good dude!
Thank you for doing such a great and informative video. It gives me insight into my subconscious and teaches me how I become more conscious about it. You're amazing, and I appreciate it 👏❤
Thanks again
I will say the only thing I may disagree with to some extent is labeling philosipher types as pedophiles. Or philosiper types abusing others sexually?
I have been pulled into hugs or "harrased" by types that aren't philosopher types.( Which i use harrased loosely because i usually blame myself.)
Ive had a estp try to get a entp to grab his arm because of feeling like hes being rejected .
There's been a istp and isfp mentioned of abusing "power" over people on the show.
I will expose myself and say that my own stupidity has caused me shame in the past because i thought it was okay to visit a templar when i believed we were on good terms and i ranged the door bell and he threaten to call the cops on me. When later i had another estp explain to me he probably just had another women over.
Almost had something similar happen to me with an isfp as a child if another si user didnt stop it.
I'm just wondering if this is absolute truth or something that is going to be used as a label?
Had a entp tell me maybe it's my naivety but i wouldn't expect you to like rock music.
But if this is something of a hard cold truth it is something that I would work on myself and have others to keep in check for me. ( Entitlement and abuse of power.)
Ever since seeing your older videos mentioning fi being selfish I try and ask my bf if i am being selfish.
Most likely to be pedos compared to other types, don’t take it personally
@@CSJosephmm okay, thanks Chase
My 22 year old infp brother refuses to get a job, clean his room, etc. man you should see how bad an infp’s bedroom can get, it barely even matters to them because they feel valuable anyway… whereas an fe se user would never let their room get that disgusting. My fi critic has me working my ass off, getting different jobs, trying to get better jobs. While my older infp brother plays video games in his room all day, no wonder though because enfj mother enables him and tortures me essentially
So true. I do cut out people that don't treat me like vip (infp)
lol
Even multimillionaires?
@@jt_rooster3228 LMAOO
Finally 🙌
13:25 😳 answered a question I hadn’t asked yet 13:55
22:03 this got real spiritual - interesting
wealth of knowledge abuser guilty as charged. because people are ignorant and cognitively blind.
Where is part 1 of it?
I found it know😁
I wonder if Patrick Bateman from American Psycho is a Philosopher
Perfect timing haha 😅
Finally
I'm an ISTJ.
What i discovered is that fe users lowkey like being the servants (im not tryna sound rude haha) but my enfj sister said she would rather be the prince than the princess if you feel me. The princess is kinda the star, she would rather be the one giving. Of course she says this but she has fi moments or rather ni moments where she'd like to be the unique special one and i totally give that to her, since i love Ni
XSTPs too like to be the lowkey flashy ones but ultimately not the main character
Well, dang!
Are you saying that the estj and istj are ne fi because of their being present in the lower half of their ego function stack? It’s odd to place those to as philosophers. They’re so surface level and excessively boring and materialistic, I’ve never known them to be anything remotely profound much less philosophical.
Watch the season 17 playlist which explains more
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at last 😩
Why are infjs failures?
Sad i know no philosophers
Aren't they aupposed to be freaking common ?
And the doorslam is real lol
I don't want to talk to you, i don't want to look at you, i don't want to think of you, i want nothing to do with you, GO AWAY
Esit: OK that's actually a useless comment I don't know why I wrote it
ENFP say a lot of useless things - maybe you’re that ? 😆
@@Nyalloyd maybe 🙃
estjs and istjs are everywhere i go
In class, church, meet ups,my neighbours, lol
How is this not entj 😂😂
how tf wud he be
@@aladdout9454 No not him, I mean the talk, it reminds me of entj
@@broadbandtogodnah do you know any entj’s?? I grew up with three of them and I do not agree What so ever
@@broadbandtogod absolutely not lol...every Je dom (enfjs entjs esfjs estjs) ive seen cares and nurtures a group. Its a stupid misconception
how to keep everyone accountable and how to prevent or avoid abuse?
Impossible
You can't. I quit learning Wing Chun because it doesn't matter how good you get at martial arts, it doesn't protect you from surprise attacks (also because I was getting beat up every time I tried to learn).
your so cute bro
That I am. Too bad I am not gay.
@@CSJoseph bro allow it
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"Bro allow it." 🤣
@@FFakiha 🙈
philosophers are most abusive
No
@@AsaiahBenjamin yeah
Wayfarers are still shit
Depends on the type of abuse. I don’t think it’s the ‘’most’’…. I definitely think they get away with it more. It’s a very underhanded accepted form when it’s there. The abuser is probably not even aware. That’s what makes it the most pernicious.
Templers are most abusive , why do they have to leave people worse than they found them?😔 especially STPs
Haha finally 😂
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