I've just come out of a 2015 GT3 and am about to take delivery of a 0km 2017 570s. The GT3 is indeed a special car, but is a grumpy bugger on the road below 3,500rpm. It also sounds rough and unrefined below that. Above that, the exhausts open and she sings like a rockstar. Unfortunately on public roads, that means you generally need to be going too fast to enjoy it. Sad, but true. I came out of 2 years GT4 ownership, which was (in all my 13 cars in 12 years here in Dubai), frankly the best sports car money can buy for street usage. It's incredible. But I sold it for the GT3 because I simply needed to see how much better the GT3 is. On a track, I guess the GT3 would certainly be faster on the straights. But it feels heavier than the GT4 and I never bonded with it like the GT4. GT4, you feel invincible and can really use all of its power and dynamics on the road. Which is where we will all spend 90%+ of our time driving. So in conclusion, the GT3 is wonderful but you really need a track (or no speed limits / speed bumps) to get your money's worth. I opted for the 570s coupe because 1. McLaren are giving them away right now to clear stock 2. The dealership McLaren experience is really very good indeed. As others have mentioned, no BS fighting to secure a GT/RS car 3. 570s feels SO special. Those doors. The incredible exotic looks. The steering feel - wow, on GT4 level (the 991.1 GT3 just isn't as good as car is heavier and it's not mid engined) 4. The 570s actually sounds good. I've never been a turbo man but this car converted me 5. The 570s is simply BALLISTICALLY fast. OMG. What an experience 6. It just feels special 7. Rivals i tried - R8 - great sound/V10 motor but felt inert and way less special. 458 - feels old tech and a bit fragile. Plus Ferrari are more up their own arse, where as McLaren have a point to make and prove it with the whole buying experience. Let's hope the 570s isn't plagued with electrical gremlins but you know what - from my time test driving the car - it's something (covered by 3 yrs warranty/service) that I'd be ok to live with, for the whole exotic supercar experience. After all, isn't this 'supposed' to be part and parcel of supercar ownership?🤔😁 Happy and safe driving to you all
I like how MClaren also offer 12 year warranties. I can't afford a McLaren ;-; But the Gt3 is cheaper, has optional manual, and has a naturally aspirated flat 6 which sounds amazing :D
I am a recent owner of a 2019 570s Spider. I also happen to own a 997.1 TT. I do know that the 911 TT is a different beast than a 991.2 GT3 RS BUT I have to say I am so impressed with the 570 that I have difficulty believing that I would place a GT3 above a 570. The 570 truly feels special. It is a mid-engined supercar designed as such and does not have the "baggage" of the 911 evolution. The seating position, visibility and resulting feel from the 570 can't be matched by a 911. And it is a Spider that offers an open top experience without ANY real compromises (visually or torsional rigidity (carbon tub)) to a fixed roof GT3.
Ok so i'm a little late to the party as Ive just viewed parts 1 & 2 of your McLaren 570s review and its 2021 but Im a Porsche guy who's looking for a new 'thing' so the 570s really just has to come into my field of view. Huracan is great but people hate you in a Lambo. Ferrari is just too expensive and I dont think the Aston Martin Vantage is a step up from the 911 despite being a very pretty alternative. AMG GT?...eeeerm? not sure I want a Batmobile. Audi R8?...get some balls and buy the Huracan which is what it actually is. This review is the best i've seen after trawling through dozens of 570s videos. You have helped me to seal the deal. I love my 991 Carrera 2s but the 570s is in another league...Proud to be British!
Great video but one critique is that when you switch to the quick shots from cameras mounted on the exterior of the car, its quite hard to hear you over the road/car noise from those cameras. I really don't think you need the audio from those clips to play at that point, it just drowns you out.
Gt3 rs, because of the naturally aspirated screaming sound and redicilous road presence:) im a porsche guy, but hey I wouldnt complain if santa brought me a 570s this year either;) Great review and awesome dog sir!
First time I saw a McLaren was in London in the early 90s. Have loved it ever since. Would get this over GT3RS without even blinking. Btw, I live in New York and Porsches here are everywhere. People need to give McLaren a better look and be pleasantly surprised.
So excited about this machine, I was lucky enough to drive one around the Top Gear test track Friday and the car is silky raw! Now I am a 61 year old car nut who plays with Bimmers all day , I am also very lazy with flappy paddles and nearly always leave boxes in auto but this 8 speed box is so sweeeet and easy to use, an every day machine that I really want to own
Great video. Really liked his point about the "floating" center display (not a single attached piece with the center console like in the 12C) really opening up the passenger space. Nice relaxed and thoughtful tone to the video too. And that dog is cool!
Ayrton Senna. That is what drives the passion I have for Lotus and McLaren. I fell in love with Lotus when he was driving for them, and when he went to McLaren my passion followed. I remember when the Elise was first released watching a documentary about how the car was conceived and built. I don't remember any other car company allowing the cameras into the factory to document development like that at the time. I desired one from that day and have been a Lotus owner now for 11 years. McLaren have also allowed several factory build videos. A different price band that one day I may manage to afford. The 570s would be my first choice.
@MotoMan TV - what a great review! Very impressed with your knowledge, content and your approach to your videos. I'm about to purchase my first Mclaren, which will be a 570S, this year. Greetings from New Zealand - birthplace of the one and only Bruce Mclaren!
I bought the 570S and it is SPECIAL! For this money I don't want a Beetle (GT3 RS).... as good as it is. I want something that puts a smile on my face....... just look looking at it. And when I get behind the wheel and experience what it really is about...... grin from ear to ear! I've been a Ferrari guy for 30 years, but this McLaren has me jumping ship and not looking back..... in McLaren orange, with the track pack of course!
Will choose this 570s, because it suits everyday use, direct technology from years of F1 racing, special doors, good design and exterior influenced by the P1, and quality built.
MotorMan - wow! I'm impressed with your review.👍🏻👍🏻 So glad to see this review before heading out to Mclaren Newport Beach. You have put me into a debate on this choice of cars. I have a 2011 GT3RS, to be honest, it seems to me that I have a hard time finding something as visceral as the RS so far. I test drove the huracan(I felt the steering may not quite as well connected, then drove the 360 spider in Canada is quite good). But I heard about the Ferrari costly up keep that can bankrupt me. I wasn't keen on Mclaren, my Buddy test drove the 570S and offered me to test drive it. But I had refused it. My thought was if I put out a $200k plus car I would rather to buy something more stunning like the huracan. Just look at the design. Stunning. But now because of your review I will go down to Newport to test drive the mclaren. Will let you know...
Found your channel yesterday and I can't stop watching your videos! It's compulsive. Love the geeky details although I wasn't really able to visualize how the inertia push works.. Any extra tips?
To be completely honest . . . You really only can experience it at MUCH higher speeds than I was driving - the type you would if you were on a track . . .
Mclaren is now one of the greats they are one of the bench marks like Ferrari or Lamborghini that all other super cars are compared to now (like super cars from Honda, Chevy, Nissan, AMG all compared to them). Lamborghini and Ferrari are house hold names even to non car people, but i can see Mclaren becoming a house hold name recognized by even non car people very soon at the rate they are moving.
+justin bouche - McLaren was already a great when the F1 came out, and the fact that they built the P1 to rival the LaFerrari and 918 Spyder. It's not just about the road cars, but also their place in motor racing history.
of course, they have always been amazing for those who follow F1, but to the production car world they were not well known as their own company, now thats changing very fast.
+justin bouche - The MP4-12C has been around enough for people to realize that McLaren know how to build supercars; the 570S doesn't change this view,. Whereas the 675LT and the P1 reassures as that McLaren can make bad ass cars.
bongmistt what he 570s does change is the position in the market mclaren is taking, look at the 650s and 12C how much value they have lost.... its pretty bad over 50% with the 540 and 570 being the companies base car and 650 being mid level thenP1 being high level they are showing that they wont just be a one off limited production car company but a mass production one like Ferrari and Lamborghini. also this shows that you dont need to pay 400K for a good mclaren, it shows that mclaren can make products for a larger audience at a lower price.
+justin bouche - Are you talking about depreciating value? It's what McLaren are good at, unless it's their halo car the P1. It's still early days as to what impact the 570S will have in the super sports car segment. I'm not sold on the design with the overuse of carbon fibre on the 570S exterior, and that smiley face is simply trying to hard to be 'edgy'. No doubt it's amazing to drive.
Both the RS and the 570 have their amazing parts, I honestly couldn't pick between them without driving both of them on road and track. The RS has the sound and NA engine, but the Mac has the power and weight, and is faster in a straight line. The Mac would also be a better daily, but the RS has the proven Porsche reliability and quality. I prefer the looks of the Mac, but the RS has a more iconic, timeless design. It is a toss up for me without driving them.
Excellent review! I would take the McLaren since I am British and I drive an echo boost Fiesta. I do not usually write comments so well done again! Dsm
Boston, MA. USA I'm in the process of choosing between the 2014 Ferrari FF, 2016 McLaren 570s, or a 2016 McLaren 650s. Not sure what to do but I know if I get the McLaren I need another car for the winter so I don't have to share my SUV. The McLaren is REALLY nice though!! Hopefully I'll figure it out soon.
Chet S Region Florida, currently drive 458 Speciale and Lamborghini Murcielago. I would pick the 570s, not even close. It has so many amazing features that Porsche and Ferrari are years from using like carbon fiber tubs. Plus it has power steering not electric steering. Very impressive McLaren.
I reckon that if the choice was mine then I'd opt for 570s because it would provide more daily driving pleasure thus more driving fun. If I'd be fortunate enough to choose one as a car specifically for track days or occasional fun then be it GT3 / GT3RS. But then again, how often visit tracks or be able to exploit driving dinamics? The definite choice is 570s due to being more of a car for most of the time without having that ostentatious spoiler in the rear view mirror at all times. Porkers imlpy a perceived quality but so as McLarens lately. Ps. I drive a Merc 😊
Well, I live near Philadelphia PA, daily drive a 2005 Ford Mustang Gt (manual of course) and love the 570s and the gt3rs. The 570s appeals more to me because it's crazy to see a company put effort into making a "slower" more base model, cheaper car, that competes with such cars as a gt3rs. The gt3rs is the best of the best Porsche puts out (aside from the 918 of course) but on the road a 570s will turn more heads, be more fun, and in my opinion has much more appeal in many aspects.
I'm not an engineer but I think that carbon ceramic disks have to be really warmed up, maybe even hot to have the most efficient stopping power. That's why they don't have much bite around town because you can't get enough speed to get them to optimum temperature....
Revisiting your video again. Between GT3 RS and the Mclaren 570S?! The GT3 RS may hold the value better. As my GT3 RS is reliable and not cost so much to maintain. The mclaren seem to depreciate quite a bit on the previous model. Or is it like most British cars. People are so passionate about its British heritage but it depreciate like three is no tomorrow. ?!
Own the last Hennessey McLaren HPE produced based on the 570S Spider and hands down the car McLaren should have built. 0-60 in 1.8 sec and quarter mile in 8.47 sec. Addition of 620R goodies (wing, dive planes) in addition to vortex generators on the roof, wing, and undercarriage plus turning vanes, makes it claw the ground and eat the lunch of about any super or hypercar with it maneuverability. Absolute Dr. Jekyll/Mr Hyde transforming from a daily driver to a track demon.
My choice would have been Porsche back 5+ years ago... Bought my RUF GT2 and tracked it for 7 years, I went through the golden age of cars IMO between tech and analog in the 2000's Porsche has gotten too expensive and the competition is too steep. I bought my 326k sticker Mp4 for 180 at the time (almost two years ago) and in terms of f1 tech, exotics look and feel, outright performance im sorry but the 991 GT3 wasnt in the same league for me.. I did over 7k miles on my MP4 and a big 2500 mile road trip, it was the perfect blend of usability/comfort/nutty performance and looks... I just got done with the 570S on the track and its just so so much fun.. Also, carbon tub/chassis, mclaren just needs to seriously work on their dealer network and quirks ! But for me, Mclaren any any day.
Awesome review Motorman. To me the GT 3 RS is not in the same category as the 570S. I would compare this McLaren with the 911 Tubro S instead. Same money still, but both more suited for cruising and carving canyon roads than the track. And if it were my money, I have to admit I'd buy the McLaren. There is just something more exotic, animalistic about it, the look, the doors, the history of the brand. I have nothing against Porsche, and in fact I'm going in tomorrow to test drive some Panameras/Cayennes to replace my DD but there's something special about the McLaren, a "zing" that is most certainly multi factorial. For what it's worth, the Porsche will likely be more reliable, easier to live with, hold it's value better and be easier to resell.As for the GT RS, that's more inline with the 650/675 McLarens, purpose wise. Didn't C&D or Motortrend do a compare last month between the two? I get all of them and forgot which one featured the article.I live in Minnesota, and our garage has a Mercedes GLK, a C7 Stingray and soon to depart Honda Crosstour.
That's a very tough choice. Honestly, I would have to test drive both and then pick one. Growing up I never was a fan of Porsches (always was a Ferrari guy) but they've grown on me recently. I love the gt3 rs, I love everything about it. I think I would go with the McLaren (just because I've always loved them) and they have some rarity. I see Porsches all the time but It's rare to see a McLaren.
I would pick the McLaren 570s. looks better and built by a F1 team. .. my location is Canada and I currently own an Elise and launch edition Alfa Romeo 4C.
My dream car has always been a Porsche since I was a kid, so I'd have to go with the GT3 (GT3 RS is overkill for me). What I'd really would like is the Cayman GT4. Although I do love the McLaren so it wouldn't be an easy choice.
The RS is to hardcore for a daily. But would be a hoot in the British country Lanes. But I'd go the 570 as it's a bit softer when you want it to be, and asbo inspiring when your in the mood. The 570 to me is the best looking of the McClaren famo, but it's a little flash for my British taste so I'd need a garage to hide it in. Personally I'd go Porsche gt4, and not the great gt3. As to quote, "I don't have the sack", to push ether the gt3 RS or the 750 the so the gt4 would end up on my drive. 750 is better but to 'showoffie'. Tbh the new MX5 is probably a better buy that I could push all the way.
I'm from Liverpool, England. I drive a Nissan GT-R and I would take the McLaren in dark blue. A little more subtle, less in your face and as a DAILY it's probably better suited.
I had driven 570s spider and carrara s, both 2017. The difference is huge!! McLaren is way way way better toy.. Therefore, i've order 540c with MSO titanium exhaust system to outmatched the 570's power but without the harsh non-civilized ceramic break on the S and have more legroom like the S and nore the GT. I'm driving now a cayenne gts 2016. Saudi Arabia
I drive a 570s, in terms of comparing it to the GT3 RS in Australia, firstly they are are going for brand new about 40-50% more expensive than a 570s so not really an easy comparison to make :)
Just for the record, I'm a super car noob. I drive an Audi A3 and not even a particular fast one (and I drive in the Netherlands). However, I would choose the McLaren 570s over the 911 GT3 RS any day. This car is build as a top performer not as an upgraded version of " poor mans edition". The looks, the dihedral doors, the dedication to aero dynamics, there can be only one choice as far as I'm concerned. Would consider the 570GT if I would be in the market for one. Oh, and McLaren being the company which gave Ayrton Senna the car to become a triple F1 champion helps....
If the tub needs repair, you are dead. Alternately, should you somehow survive, just replace the tub. But if the tub is damaged, the front, the back, or both are toast too. So replace the car.
+Elliot James At this juncture . . . only have driven the 570s . . . Probably will have the 570 GT on next . . . Or if we can squeeze it in, a 675 something or other . . . In other words, can't say as of yet so let's put a pin in this discussion.
Rewatching this one. Having driven this & the GT3 I’d go 570S simply because the doors go up. GT3 has a waaaaay better sound but almost too loud all the time
i just bought a 570s . its a great car so far (500 mils-1 week) i have owned a 991 gt3 (6k miles) last year and i would take this in a heartbeat over it or an rs. I had the same chose and went with the 570s. Not regretting it so far. But a 991 gt2? i don't know...
Believe it or not, I would pick a regular GT3. I would be able to push it more and not worry too much about the aero bits and the rougher ride. I would take a 997 GT2 RS over a new 991 GT3 RS, however. I don't exactly trust the longevity of the McLaren systems yet, especially considering they haven't been holding up too well so far.
For one last drive id go GT3 RS, for the engine if nothing else. To spend my own money on....it would have to be the Brit. The 570S seems to be a more well rounded car and a more complete package, ie supercar, sports car and even a daily if it can fit your life style.
I first fell in love with the 12c. The tub, the suspension, the engine, the name and its' heritage. This is a little more modern, has some playfulness built in vs the track time oriented 12c. (though the comfort mode of the 12c is supposed to be great) As for the GT3 RS. Good track car, bad road car, and I just get a douche-baggy sense from the drivers of those cars. I'd probably rather hang with some McLaren folks than the Porsche folks. So, the 570s. Live in California, drive a Golf. What is ahead of both cars? A 12c Spyder.
McLaren 570s or better yet the GT. The McLaren as a unique blend of elegance and athleticism that the Porsche does not have. Porsche to me has had the same exterior design for the past 20 years (a few minor updates but overall they all look the same) but the McLaren has this refined yet predatory style that is just eye catching. I live in the Northeast and unfortunately I currently drive a Honda but once I get back on my feet maybe one day I can afford one (probably used). LOL
I'd take this over the Porsche, no question about it. Looks better, apparently drives better. You see Porsches all the time (and usually the slow base model 911). This really would stand out on the road.
570S over the GT3. 570 is special and an event, every time you get behind the wheel. GT3 looks like every 911. And you can walk in and order a 570 without any of the BS surrounding a GT3 order!!
I would choose the mclaren 570gt, not the s. the gt seems much more practical and a better daily. not sure why the mclaren over the porsche, i just like it better. Denver CO, honda accord.
Would have to choose the McLaren. Though you know I enjoy my Buick as it not only fits my budget, but is a nice place to be and very reliable. The Porche, well where do I start, there is no denying its heritage and advancements over many many many years, they have a wonderful example of Germanic engineering and prowess. However I am still stuck that they put the engine all those years ago in the wrong frickin place and kind of just engineered it over many years until they got it down. But still to me it is a very expensive heavily engineered attractive stretch beetle. Don't get me wrong I respect it but I wouldn't buy it. Between the two it would be the McLaren!
Two things: A. Kinda disappointing Kumo (sp?) didn't take the car for a spin. B. I live in Beverly Hills and in part judge the respect a supercar has with how many I see on the road (particularly Beverly Hills, Encino and the west side of L.A.). On relative terms as I know only so many on any given model are produced/exported to the USA, I don't see very many McLarens (who has a very nice showroom a few minutes from my home). Plenty of Lambos, Ferraris, Bentleys and even Astons - but maybe I've seen 5 McLarens since last summer. That's not saying they can't run the canyons as well as the competition. But *I* don't think it's a car "people" want to be seen in day after day.. It appears it doesn't command the respect the others do. Personally, I think a Corvette Z06 is better looking but as its mass produced vs a McLaren,.... Bottom line: A McLaren is like a hot blonde while a Ferrari is like a pretty brunette: I wouldn't mind being seen with a blonde for one night out on the town, but its the brunette I'd take home to meet mom.
McLaren 570S > GT3 > GT3RS if you can only have one to "do it all" sportscar. For a weekend track car only, I'd go GT3 then the McLaren. RS's command too much market up IMO.
I would choose the McLaren 570s hands down! In my opinion in terms of looks its a stunning piece of engineering compared to the Porche GT3 RS overly dated looks.Performance of the two vehicles are similar although I believe the Mclaren 570s outdoes the Porsche GT3 RS slightly. I reside in Toronto Canada and drive a VW Golf GTI and I have never behind the wheel of a McLaren but would love to.
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I've just come out of a 2015 GT3 and am about to take delivery of a 0km 2017 570s.
The GT3 is indeed a special car, but is a grumpy bugger on the road below 3,500rpm. It also sounds rough and unrefined below that. Above that, the exhausts open and she sings like a rockstar. Unfortunately on public roads, that means you generally need to be going too fast to enjoy it. Sad, but true.
I came out of 2 years GT4 ownership, which was (in all my 13 cars in 12 years here in Dubai), frankly the best sports car money can buy for street usage. It's incredible.
But I sold it for the GT3 because I simply needed to see how much better the GT3 is.
On a track, I guess the GT3 would certainly be faster on the straights. But it feels heavier than the GT4 and I never bonded with it like the GT4.
GT4, you feel invincible and can really use all of its power and dynamics on the road. Which is where we will all spend 90%+ of our time driving.
So in conclusion, the GT3 is wonderful but you really need a track (or no speed limits / speed bumps) to get your money's worth.
I opted for the 570s coupe because
1. McLaren are giving them away right now to clear stock
2. The dealership McLaren experience is really very good indeed. As others have mentioned, no BS fighting to secure a GT/RS car
3. 570s feels SO special. Those doors. The incredible exotic looks. The steering feel - wow, on GT4 level (the 991.1 GT3 just isn't as good as car is heavier and it's not mid engined)
4. The 570s actually sounds good. I've never been a turbo man but this car converted me
5. The 570s is simply BALLISTICALLY fast. OMG. What an experience
6. It just feels special
7. Rivals i tried - R8 - great sound/V10 motor but felt inert and way less special. 458 - feels old tech and a bit fragile. Plus Ferrari are more up their own arse, where as McLaren have a point to make and prove it with the whole buying experience.
Let's hope the 570s isn't plagued with electrical gremlins but you know what - from my time test driving the car - it's something (covered by 3 yrs warranty/service) that I'd be ok to live with, for the whole exotic supercar experience.
After all, isn't this 'supposed' to be part and parcel of supercar ownership?🤔😁
Happy and safe driving to you all
I like how MClaren also offer 12 year warranties. I can't afford a McLaren ;-; But the Gt3 is cheaper, has optional manual, and has a naturally aspirated flat 6 which sounds amazing :D
I am a recent owner of a 2019 570s Spider. I also happen to own a 997.1 TT. I do know that the 911 TT is a different beast than a 991.2 GT3 RS BUT I have to say I am so impressed with the 570 that I have difficulty believing that I would place a GT3 above a 570. The 570 truly feels special. It is a mid-engined supercar designed as such and does not have the "baggage" of the 911 evolution. The seating position, visibility and resulting feel from the 570 can't be matched by a 911. And it is a Spider that offers an open top experience without ANY real compromises (visually or torsional rigidity (carbon tub)) to a fixed roof GT3.
Ok so i'm a little late to the party as Ive just viewed parts 1 & 2 of your McLaren 570s review and its 2021 but Im a Porsche guy who's looking for a new 'thing' so the 570s really just has to come into my field of view. Huracan is great but people hate you in a Lambo. Ferrari is just too expensive and I dont think the Aston Martin Vantage is a step up from the 911 despite being a very pretty alternative. AMG GT?...eeeerm? not sure I want a Batmobile. Audi R8?...get some balls and buy the Huracan which is what it actually is. This review is the best i've seen after trawling through dozens of 570s videos. You have helped me to seal the deal. I love my 991 Carrera 2s but the 570s is in another league...Proud to be British!
Great video but one critique is that when you switch to the quick shots from cameras mounted on the exterior of the car, its quite hard to hear you over the road/car noise from those cameras. I really don't think you need the audio from those clips to play at that point, it just drowns you out.
Gt3 rs, because of the naturally aspirated screaming sound and redicilous road presence:) im a porsche guy, but hey I wouldnt complain if santa brought me a 570s this year either;) Great review and awesome dog sir!
I would buy the Mclaren, I am currently driving an X6. One of my friends has the 570s and it just azaming! I live in Dubai btw
First time I saw a McLaren was in London in the early 90s. Have loved it ever since. Would get this over GT3RS without even blinking. Btw, I live in New York and Porsches here are everywhere. People need to give McLaren a better look and be pleasantly surprised.
Now I want a McLaren 570s :)
So excited about this machine, I was lucky enough to drive one around the Top Gear test track Friday and the car is silky raw!
Now I am a 61 year old car nut who plays with Bimmers all day , I am also very lazy with flappy paddles and nearly always leave boxes in auto but this 8 speed box is so sweeeet and easy to use, an every day machine that I really want to own
I've watched about 12 different 570s reviews today, and I gotta say, this and the tech review have been the most interesting and in depth. Subscribed.
Thank you for the kind words! Gotta ask . . . Was it me or Kumo:)
+MotoManTV I gotta tell you, Kumo was really convincing with the specs of the car :D
I have a 570 S and I just love it, so I say 570 S is what you should get it.
Great video. Really liked his point about the "floating" center display (not a single attached piece with the center console like in the 12C) really opening up the passenger space. Nice relaxed and thoughtful tone to the video too. And that dog is cool!
Ayrton Senna. That is what drives the passion I have for Lotus and McLaren. I fell in love with Lotus when he was driving for them, and when he went to McLaren my passion followed.
I remember when the Elise was first released watching a documentary about how the car was conceived and built. I don't remember any other car company allowing the cameras into the factory to document development like that at the time. I desired one from that day and have been a Lotus owner now for 11 years.
McLaren have also allowed several factory build videos. A different price band that one day I may manage to afford. The 570s would be my first choice.
I get the 570S always.
@MotoMan TV - what a great review! Very impressed with your knowledge, content and your approach to your videos. I'm about to purchase my first Mclaren, which will be a 570S, this year. Greetings from New Zealand - birthplace of the one and only Bruce Mclaren!
...oh btw, you got my sub!
I bought the 570S and it is SPECIAL! For this money I don't want a Beetle (GT3 RS).... as good as it is. I want something that puts a smile on my face....... just look looking at it. And when I get behind the wheel and experience what it really is about...... grin from ear to ear! I've been a Ferrari guy for 30 years, but this McLaren has me jumping ship and not looking back..... in McLaren orange, with the track pack of course!
I would select hands down the McLaren.
Yo Motoman! so glad you pulled this off:) love the video
Have 2017 570S love it and very few issues just annual service ... thanks for video
Will choose this 570s, because it suits everyday use, direct technology from years of F1 racing, special doors, good design and exterior influenced by the P1, and quality built.
McLaren 570s all day but in a spider witch I hear comes out next year I'm from the uk
Adorable dog :)
MotorMan - wow! I'm impressed with your review.👍🏻👍🏻 So glad to see this review before heading out to Mclaren Newport Beach. You have put me into a debate on this choice of cars.
I have a 2011 GT3RS, to be honest, it seems to me that I have a hard time finding something as visceral as the RS so far. I test drove the huracan(I felt the steering may not quite as well connected, then drove the 360 spider in Canada is quite good). But I heard about the Ferrari costly up keep that can bankrupt me. I wasn't keen on Mclaren, my Buddy test drove the 570S and offered me to test drive it. But I had refused it. My thought was if I put out a $200k plus car I would rather to buy something more stunning like the huracan. Just look at the design. Stunning. But now because of your review I will go down to Newport to test drive the mclaren.
Will let you know...
Found your channel yesterday and I can't stop watching your videos! It's compulsive. Love the geeky details although I wasn't really able to visualize how the inertia push works.. Any extra tips?
To be completely honest . . . You really only can experience it at MUCH higher speeds than I was driving - the type you would if you were on a track . . .
Great review. Traded a 991 tts and no regrets. Looks are miles ahead imo and overall joy to drive. Fit and finish good but not Porsche quality.
How is the car a year after your comment? Also, thinking of trading my 991 Turbo S for a 570
McLaren - waaaaaaaaay more sexy - Oregon - ordered this car Monday
Mclaren is now one of the greats they are one of the bench marks like Ferrari or Lamborghini that all other super cars are compared to now (like super cars from Honda, Chevy, Nissan, AMG all compared to them). Lamborghini and Ferrari are house hold names even to non car people, but i can see Mclaren becoming a house hold name recognized by even non car people very soon at the rate they are moving.
+justin bouche - McLaren was already a great when the F1 came out, and the fact that they built the P1 to rival the LaFerrari and 918 Spyder. It's not just about the road cars, but also their place in motor racing history.
of course, they have always been amazing for those who follow F1, but to the production car world they were not well known as their own company, now thats changing very fast.
+justin bouche - The MP4-12C has been around enough for people to realize that McLaren know how to build supercars; the 570S doesn't change this view,. Whereas the 675LT and the P1 reassures as that McLaren can make bad ass cars.
bongmistt what he 570s does change is the position in the market mclaren is taking, look at the 650s and 12C how much value they have lost.... its pretty bad over 50%
with the 540 and 570 being the companies base car and 650 being mid level thenP1 being high level they are showing that they wont just be a one off limited production car company but a mass production one like Ferrari and Lamborghini.
also this shows that you dont need to pay 400K for a good mclaren, it shows that mclaren can make products for a larger audience at a lower price.
+justin bouche - Are you talking about depreciating value? It's what McLaren are good at, unless it's their halo car the P1. It's still early days as to what impact the 570S will have in the super sports car segment. I'm not sold on the design with the overuse of carbon fibre on the 570S exterior, and that smiley face is simply trying to hard to be 'edgy'. No doubt it's amazing to drive.
Both the RS and the 570 have their amazing parts, I honestly couldn't pick between them without driving both of them on road and track. The RS has the sound and NA engine, but the Mac has the power and weight, and is faster in a straight line. The Mac would also be a better daily, but the RS has the proven Porsche reliability and quality. I prefer the looks of the Mac, but the RS has a more iconic, timeless design. It is a toss up for me without driving them.
holy shit...that dog is awesome..what's that orange thing behind it...who's a good puppy
get the mclaren motoman. the way the car looks make me want to buy it. so exotic looking. does anyone know how reliable is the 570s??
Excellent review!
I would take the McLaren since I am British and I drive an echo boost Fiesta.
I do not usually write comments so well done again!
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I have driven 570S and have sat in an RS. all I can say is McLaren is a good combo for daily drive and track day. GT3ES is more suit for track days.
Boston, MA. USA
I'm in the process of choosing between the 2014 Ferrari FF, 2016 McLaren 570s, or a 2016 McLaren 650s. Not sure what to do but I know if I get the McLaren I need another car for the winter so I don't have to share my SUV. The McLaren is REALLY nice though!! Hopefully I'll figure it out soon.
Chet S
Region Florida, currently drive 458 Speciale and Lamborghini Murcielago. I would pick the 570s, not even close. It has so many amazing features that Porsche and Ferrari are years from using like carbon fiber tubs. Plus it has power steering not electric steering. Very impressive McLaren.
I reckon that if the choice was mine then I'd opt for 570s because it would provide more daily driving pleasure thus more driving fun. If I'd be fortunate enough to choose one as a car specifically for track days or occasional fun then be it GT3 / GT3RS. But then again, how often visit tracks or be able to exploit driving dinamics? The definite choice is 570s due to being more of a car for most of the time without having that ostentatious spoiler in the rear view mirror at all times. Porkers imlpy a perceived quality but so as McLarens lately. Ps. I drive a Merc 😊
Well, I live near Philadelphia PA, daily drive a 2005 Ford Mustang Gt (manual of course) and love the 570s and the gt3rs. The 570s appeals more to me because it's crazy to see a company put effort into making a "slower" more base model, cheaper car, that competes with such cars as a gt3rs. The gt3rs is the best of the best Porsche puts out (aside from the 918 of course) but on the road a 570s will turn more heads, be more fun, and in my opinion has much more appeal in many aspects.
I'm in love with this car
Good...
OK - your money 991TT(S) or the 570?
I'm not an engineer but I think that carbon ceramic disks have to be really warmed up, maybe even hot to have the most efficient stopping power. That's why they don't have much bite around town because you can't get enough speed to get them to optimum temperature....
I wish the small v8 would sound a bit better. but overall this is my favorite Mclaren now
Sounds terrible and I'm not overexaggerating. 650S sounds the best.
Yeah
It sounds much better in person. Definitely better than 650s.
Just above you said you never saw one, and now you're saying it sounds terrible... I wonder what you drive.
Loved seeing your dog. Highlight of the episode!
I’ve had a 992 911 and a 718 GT4 and now have a 720S Spider. McLaren is on another level. If you want to do a video with my 720 let me know
How can I choose without driving them? Maybe you could remedy this situation?
Revisiting your video again. Between GT3 RS and the Mclaren 570S?! The GT3 RS may hold the value better. As my GT3 RS is reliable and not cost so much to maintain. The mclaren seem to depreciate quite a bit on the previous model. Or is it like most British cars. People are so passionate about its British heritage but it depreciate like three is no tomorrow. ?!
Own the last Hennessey McLaren HPE produced based on the 570S Spider and hands down the car McLaren should have built. 0-60 in 1.8 sec and quarter mile in 8.47 sec. Addition of 620R goodies (wing, dive planes) in addition to vortex generators on the roof, wing, and undercarriage plus turning vanes, makes it claw the ground and eat the lunch of about any super or hypercar with it maneuverability. Absolute Dr. Jekyll/Mr Hyde transforming from a daily driver to a track demon.
My choice would have been Porsche back 5+ years ago... Bought my RUF GT2 and tracked it for 7 years, I went through the golden age of cars IMO between tech and analog in the 2000's
Porsche has gotten too expensive and the competition is too steep. I bought my 326k sticker Mp4 for 180 at the time (almost two years ago) and in terms of f1 tech, exotics look and feel, outright performance im sorry but the 991 GT3 wasnt in the same league for me.. I did over 7k miles on my MP4 and a big 2500 mile road trip, it was the perfect blend of usability/comfort/nutty performance and looks...
I just got done with the 570S on the track and its just so so much fun.. Also, carbon tub/chassis, mclaren just needs to seriously work on their dealer network and quirks ! But for me, Mclaren any any day.
Awesome review Motorman. To me the GT 3 RS is not in the same category as the 570S. I would compare this McLaren with the 911 Tubro S instead. Same money still, but both more suited for cruising and carving canyon roads than the track. And if it were my money, I have to admit I'd buy the McLaren. There is just something more exotic, animalistic about it, the look, the doors, the history of the brand. I have nothing against Porsche, and in fact I'm going in tomorrow to test drive some Panameras/Cayennes to replace my DD but there's something special about the McLaren, a "zing" that is most certainly multi factorial. For what it's worth, the Porsche will likely be more reliable, easier to live with, hold it's value better and be easier to resell.As for the GT RS, that's more inline with the 650/675 McLarens, purpose wise. Didn't C&D or Motortrend do a compare last month between the two? I get all of them and forgot which one featured the article.I live in Minnesota, and our garage has a Mercedes GLK, a C7 Stingray and soon to depart Honda Crosstour.
That's a very tough choice. Honestly, I would have to test drive both and then pick one. Growing up I never was a fan of Porsches (always was a Ferrari guy) but they've grown on me recently. I love the gt3 rs, I love everything about it. I think I would go with the McLaren (just because I've always loved them) and they have some rarity. I see Porsches all the time but It's rare to see a McLaren.
Any known reason why Mclaren doesn't show off the motor, and the owner cannot easily access the motor? Excellent 2 part series.
I would pick the McLaren 570s. looks better and built by a F1 team. .. my location is Canada and I currently own an Elise and launch edition Alfa Romeo 4C.
My dream car has always been a Porsche since I was a kid, so I'd have to go with the GT3 (GT3 RS is overkill for me). What I'd really would like is the Cayman GT4.
Although I do love the McLaren so it wouldn't be an easy choice.
Nicely Done!
The RS is to hardcore for a daily. But would be a hoot in the British country Lanes. But I'd go the 570 as it's a bit softer when you want it to be, and asbo inspiring when your in the mood.
The 570 to me is the best looking of the McClaren famo, but it's a little flash for my British taste so I'd need a garage to hide it in.
Personally I'd go Porsche gt4, and not the great gt3. As to quote, "I don't have the sack", to push ether the gt3 RS or the 750 the so the gt4 would end up on my drive. 750 is better but to 'showoffie'.
Tbh the new MX5 is probably a better buy that I could push all the way.
I'm from Liverpool, England. I drive a Nissan GT-R and I would take the McLaren in dark blue. A little more subtle, less in your face and as a DAILY it's probably better suited.
The interior design tricks proves McLaren really thinks about an everyday-drive-car.
I had driven 570s spider and carrara s, both 2017. The difference is huge!!
McLaren is way way way better toy..
Therefore, i've order 540c with MSO titanium exhaust system to outmatched the 570's power but without the harsh non-civilized ceramic break on the S and have more legroom like the S and nore the GT.
I'm driving now a cayenne gts 2016.
Saudi Arabia
got to love those pink sneakers!
570S
I drive a 570s, in terms of comparing it to the GT3 RS in Australia, firstly they are are going for brand new about 40-50% more expensive than a 570s so not really an easy comparison to make :)
I can't afford a McLaren ;-; But the normal Gt3 is cheaper, has optional manual, and has a naturally aspirated flat 6 which sounds amazing :D
How much does this cost.
All I know is that both of these cars perform great. I would go with the 570S because I happen to like design much better. Detroit, MI.
Just for the record, I'm a super car noob. I drive an Audi A3 and not even a particular fast one (and I drive in the Netherlands). However, I would choose the McLaren 570s over the 911 GT3 RS any day. This car is build as a top performer not as an upgraded version of " poor mans edition". The looks, the dihedral doors, the dedication to aero dynamics, there can be only one choice as far as I'm concerned. Would consider the 570GT if I would be in the market for one. Oh, and McLaren being the company which gave Ayrton Senna the car to become a triple F1 champion helps....
so how do you repair the carbon tub if it crashes?
If you smash the carbon tub they would not fix it. They would just write the car off!
I figure if u crashed hard enough to damage the tub you'd probably be dead and the car written totalled.
On Mclarens test cars, they crashed then reused every carbon tub :)
If the tub needs repair, you are dead. Alternately, should you somehow survive, just replace the tub. But if the tub is damaged, the front, the back, or both are toast too. So replace the car.
would you recommend getting this or the 570gt? or 540c?
+Elliot James At this juncture . . . only have driven the 570s . . . Probably will have the 570 GT on next . . . Or if we can squeeze it in, a 675 something or other . . . In other words, can't say as of yet so let's put a pin in this discussion.
Agreed, looking forward to the videos!!! Thanks for the reply.
Rewatching this one. Having driven this & the GT3 I’d go 570S simply because the doors go up. GT3 has a waaaaay better sound but almost too loud all the time
i just bought a 570s . its a great car so far (500 mils-1 week) i have owned a 991 gt3 (6k miles) last year and i would take this in a heartbeat over it or an rs. I had the same chose and went with the 570s. Not regretting it so far. But a 991 gt2? i don't know...
+gt2urbo I'm considering it. What color?
+AndreasLawson mine is white.
Nice, Cheers!
Believe it or not, I would pick a regular GT3. I would be able to push it more and not worry too much about the aero bits and the rougher ride. I would take a 997 GT2 RS over a new 991 GT3 RS, however. I don't exactly trust the longevity of the McLaren systems yet, especially considering they haven't been holding up too well so far.
Can't decide which is cooler. The car or the dog.
the dog. definitely.
Mclaren
For one last drive id go GT3 RS, for the engine if nothing else. To spend my own money on....it would have to be the Brit. The 570S seems to be a more well rounded car and a more complete package, ie supercar, sports car and even a daily if it can fit your life style.
I'm so tempted to trade in my car to get this.
I would take the 570S because it does not have a big wing.I from Scotland 👍
I first fell in love with the 12c. The tub, the suspension, the engine, the name and its' heritage. This is a little more modern, has some playfulness built in vs the track time oriented 12c. (though the comfort mode of the 12c is supposed to be great) As for the GT3 RS. Good track car, bad road car, and I just get a douche-baggy sense from the drivers of those cars. I'd probably rather hang with some McLaren folks than the Porsche folks. So, the 570s. Live in California, drive a Golf.
What is ahead of both cars? A 12c Spyder.
McLaren 570s or better yet the GT. The McLaren as a unique blend of elegance and athleticism that the Porsche does not have. Porsche to me has had the same exterior design for the past 20 years (a few minor updates but overall they all look the same) but the McLaren has this refined yet predatory style that is just eye catching. I live in the Northeast and unfortunately I currently drive a Honda but once I get back on my feet maybe one day I can afford one (probably used). LOL
So is this car automatic? I don't know how to drive a manual
Yes. With paddle shifters as well.
Oh okay thank you!
You must have not watched the video to ask such a question, as well as not know anything about McLaren and modern supercars in general.
oh and for 911 gt3r vs 570S I would pick the 570S because I really like McLaren
I'd take this over the Porsche, no question about it. Looks better, apparently drives better. You see Porsches all the time (and usually the slow base model 911). This really would stand out on the road.
I would pick this cars brother. the Mclaren 570 GT
what Breed is Kumo?
He is a Husky.
MotoMan, you sure it's not a wolf? May just try to eat you for lunch some day. :)
570S over the GT3. 570 is special and an event, every time you get behind the wheel. GT3 looks like every 911. And you can walk in and order a 570 without any of the BS surrounding a GT3 order!!
I can't afford a McLaren ;-; But the Gt3 is cheaper, has optional manual, and has a naturally aspirated flat 6 which sounds amazing :D
I'd get the GT3 RS for the sound alone. It just sounds too good!
I would choose the mclaren 570gt, not the s. the gt seems much more practical and a better daily. not sure why the mclaren over the porsche, i just like it better. Denver CO, honda accord.
both 570s and GT3RS are amazing cars, but I'd get the RS just because my heart is with Porsche.
GT3 RS all day every day. Sounds better, looks better, will appreciate in value like crazy ...!
Fuck you.
bassed on looks alone i would chose the 570s.. not sure about the price difference tho
Similar to Cali T, more than Turbo S, options are eye watering, can go well above 200k if you want all the carbon
Similar to Cali T, more than Turbo S, options are eye watering, can go well above 200k if you want all the carbon
I'll choose mclaren 570s come from England
Would have to choose the McLaren. Though you know I enjoy my Buick as it not only fits my budget, but is a nice place to be and very reliable. The Porche, well where do I start, there is no denying its heritage and advancements over many many many years, they have a wonderful example of Germanic engineering and prowess. However I am still stuck that they put the engine all those years ago in the wrong frickin place and kind of just engineered it over many years until they got it down. But still to me it is a very expensive heavily engineered attractive stretch beetle. Don't get me wrong I respect it but I wouldn't buy it. Between the two it would be the McLaren!
I want a spyder version
what breed of dog was that?
He is a Husky.
GT3 RS
1- Depreciates much much less
2- NA over Turbo any day
Two things: A. Kinda disappointing Kumo (sp?) didn't take the car for a spin. B. I live in Beverly Hills and in part judge the respect a supercar has with how many I see on the road (particularly Beverly Hills, Encino and the west side of L.A.). On relative terms as I know only so many on any given model are produced/exported to the USA, I don't see very many McLarens (who has a very nice showroom a few minutes from my home). Plenty of Lambos, Ferraris, Bentleys and even Astons - but maybe I've seen 5 McLarens since last summer. That's not saying they can't run the canyons as well as the competition. But *I* don't think it's a car "people" want to be seen in day after day.. It appears it doesn't command the respect the others do. Personally, I think a Corvette Z06 is better looking but as its mass produced vs a McLaren,....
Bottom line: A McLaren is like a hot blonde while a Ferrari is like a pretty brunette: I wouldn't mind being seen with a blonde for one night out on the town, but its the brunette I'd take home to meet mom.
+Tully3674 In the end, Kumo decided against taking her for a spin because it wasn't a manual . . . :)
Hmm... no white hair, but that passenger seat left bolster looks like it met a Kumo paw at some point ;)
+Harrison Bade We can confirm or deny nothing . . . :)
Anyone else see "do not resuscitate" when they look at the gear selector ?
570S is the better choice, more exotic, carbon fiber monocoque, and supreme handling/balance.
Well if it was a GT3RS and the 570LT then it would be a difficult choice!
I like kumo
McLaren 570S > GT3 > GT3RS if you can only have one to "do it all" sportscar. For a weekend track car only, I'd go GT3 then the McLaren. RS's command too much market up IMO.
F to the D to the R...
m4a1-s nitro factory unclassified.
I'll take the McLaren just because it looks nicer and the average person has no idea what a McLaren is
I would choose the McLaren 570s hands down! In my opinion in terms of looks its a stunning piece of engineering compared to the Porche GT3 RS overly dated looks.Performance of the two vehicles are similar although I believe the Mclaren 570s outdoes the Porsche GT3 RS slightly.
I reside in Toronto Canada and drive a VW Golf GTI and I have never behind the wheel of a McLaren but would love to.