@@fullsendit292 It was a scheme run by the government. Youth Training Scheme. More commonly called Young Thick and Stupid. It was a cheap state funded apprenticeship style thing.
@@DEFIANT71DEFIANT it was where an employer would sack a full time employee because it was cheaper to take on a YTS person and make them do a 30 hour week for £10. At the end of 2 years, the employers was supposed to take them on full time. Instead they got rid of them and took on someone else for a tenner a week. Just the usual Tories making sure wealthy employers could get cheap labour. I know because my son was on one. Completely *not* thick, nor stupid since he now works in IT and has a couple of degrees and letters after his name which he got for himself, not from some scamming lowlife employer who got rewarded by the Tory scum and felt no guilt for sacking a good employee, because he was expecting to be paid a decent wage so he could support his family. If the scheme wasn't bad enough, one employer didn't pay my son for 3 weeks. I had to go and threaten him. The arsehole even begrudged the £10.
@@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim It wasn't the greatest scheme, it had issues but it did employ a lot of young people. I know, because I was on one. You can whine all your anti tory leftist waffle, but it did what it set out to do, train and get the youth into the working world. I wasn't accusing the participants of being young thick and stupid, I was explaining what it was known as, and like it or not, that's exactly what it was known as. I have gone on to a great career and don't regret my £29.50 per week beginning one bit.
As an ex officer myself, this female officer displayed a completely innapropriate attitude, and she should at the very least, be spoken to, and I suspect, disciplined for this over reach and escalation. She has no grounds to take the action she did, and it makes me wonder how she ever got through training. She also cannot issue a S35 dispersal order without the authority of an Inspector. (which she clearly didn`t have).
The Karen cop said that you had been getting “mouthy” with the staff, as well as “causing trouble” and “shouting at them.”. She concluded that based on third party Information and without conducting any form of investigation or attempting to hear your side. Police used to teach the ABCs in training: A = Accept nothing B = Believe nothing & C = Challenge everything. Karen cop however, accepted what she was told by the complainants, believed what they said and never challenged anything they said. Karen cop’s interpersonal skills were awful, and she would benefit from de-escalation training (or ideally finding another job).
The police will ALWAYS side with whoever represents "authority", in this case the court officials. Joe Public will always be right at the bottom of that pile.
Thanks AB, I’ve been doing some research myself. I’m going to study the whole act, I’m no expert but I try my best to hold them to account. Thanks for your support
She was completely out of her depth dealing with the public, she was extremely unprofessional, immediately jumped to conclusions without bothering to ascertain any of the facts and became very abusive. When she didn't get her own way she became like a petulant child. Why are our police so poorly trained.
@@richardjones8699 - Yeah, I think the auditor didn't do too well either. All auditors should carry copies of the NPCC Memo re Street Photographers. A good auditor would not just allow the cop to carry away his gear, when he was not detained nor under arrest. He could also have told Karen that Trespass has nothing to with the police and they have NO powers to act in a civil dispute
@@topcat1358 I only watch this guy occasionally as he can be prone to being bullied and not standing up for himself. I got really fed up with him letting the UK auditing community down in that regard and lost patience with him.
@@benbirch2393 Both I think? She has the makings of an Inspector. They just need to lower the scales a bit so she qualifies, even then I think she will need to cheat her way in.
She might be the worst example of law enforcement I've ever seen! Blowing off her mouth with out proof based on heresay, ignorant of the law and a damn school yard bully. Take her badge and send her home to cook and clean for a man. Imagine lying to her when everything is on film!
Can't use a section 35 Dispersal order unless a police officer of the rank of Inspector or above has authorise in writing the use of dispersal powers under section 34 of the Crime and Policing Act 2014 Act in a specified locality and during a specified period.
It is a common tactic to save themselves losing face. The most effective ones approach with an open mind, consider the facts, consider the law and their powers then make a decision. If they haven't engaged in bullying, judgemental tatics, or possibly risen to the bait of the person they are talking, they can act appropriately or they can walk away without any criticism or shame.
if she isnt stopped, she will grow worse; top brass needs taking her down 10 pegs; no doubt next she will be strip searching sch children for drugs....
@@WhiteDieselShed That's another option too. If you can counter every word that comes out their stupid gobs after the "listen" command,will infuriate them even more, not only are you not obeying and LISTENING, you're actually overwhelming them with logic, and not falling for their gibberish . I used this technique on a stroppy builder (he didn't do the listen bit) but he tried to overwhelm me so I just talked over him, he was fuuuuming!!😀
@@ianhill4585 Think my other comment of quoting US laws when they spout rubbish may get a better response. Plead the 5th and keep repeating they are violating your 1st and 2nd amendments etc. :)
Wow ! That female officer is a walking civil suit. Terrible attitude. The extent of her ‘impartial investigation’ involved listening to one side of a dispute and then taking what they said as inerrant fact, without any attempt to get the other side . . . does she even understand the concept of a self-serving statement in law ? . . . And any attempt by you to give your account was 'argumentative' and 'having an attitude'. Just wow, she would fold, like paper in the wind, on the witness stand with that level of 'evidence'.
dave - The karen cop is totally incompetent and was out of her depth. She has NOT a clue about IMPARTIALITY and fairness. Probably joined the cops to look for a hubby.
thar is the Police in a nut shell today ... nothing professional about them whatsoever .... now they are just a Liberal mouthpiece ..only working for one side
SHE DEALT with this clown "auditor" . Well done girl! she was having none of his bullshit. He was indeed having attitude towards her from the start, he was very argumentative and antagonistic purposely steering shit. He is just desperate trying to act smart in front of police and harass these people . "Under what Law" She told you the Law , you still don't understand and keep arguing. You are sad and insecure .
Absolutely pursue it. She should've listened to your side before criminalizing you. Her 'what I say is all that matters' attitude is dangerous for herself and the members of public she is paid to serve.
Report them to a body that is mostly ex cops , and the rest are police bootlickers . ( if you want to waste your time) You can see by police ‘s attitude to being reported, they could not care less .
PC Princess there wasn't told "No" enough as a child. She was on the verge of sulking, stomping her feet and telling her daddy on you before the officer who at least knows how to behave himself in his profession rocked up.
That female cop was ready to believe TGA had been abusive. She was also shown to clearly be in competent and has a bad attitude due to her inferiority complex.
Section 35 orders: 1. Must be authorised by an inspector or higher rank 2. Dispersal orders by a constable must be given in writing (They weren't) 3. They must specify the area. 4. They must specify the duration of the order. 5. A record must be kept.
Even if it was private then it’s a civil matter of trespass which isn’t illegal. The fact the WPC lacked impartiality and failed to investigate is astoundingly poor policing. The fact she took your stuff is theft or deprivation of property or even assault. I would have asked if they were detaining you and the fact she can’t cite any real law is an indicator of how poorly trained the police are. The fact the bloke said you were aggressive is a false police report to have them come in on blue lights.
The female police officer was a disgrace. Her attitude was appalling. Threatening arrest under some load of rubbish law. Then a dispersal order was thrown into the equation. She does not have the authority to issue this as there was none in place.
@@jamesdiskin6142 Don't talk shite. Gwent is a little gobshite and doesn't deserve any respect, reason being it works both ways, as you well know, frauditors don't do respect and are unreasonable, in this video he got jogged on. PERFECT result. 😂🤣😂🤣
@@jamesdiskin6142 Dispersal Orders are issued by Inspectors and above when it is believed that serious disorder may occur and tend to be limited to major events. I won't even touch on posting them, how long they last, their physical limitations and the powers inferred. In short , this female cop lied. But what would you expect from someone who obviously thinks that to be taken seriously in The Met as a cop you have to lie and make bullshot threats to citizens threats backed up by nothing. As for the ASBO this stupid gob***** tried to threaten with, it would have been an interesting legal an civil case.
When he was able to quote the laws that is where she lost contact and did not know what he was talking about and sheepishly plucked something out of the air but when questioned could not reply as there was no such law. Her parents must be very proud to have such a ignorant daughter.
This female cop is not being impartial and is wholly believing the complainant by saying "You've been getting mouthy", "Yes you have". She will listen to a complaint one day and unlawfully arrest someone and will cost the police a massive lawsuit.
That female cop is a nasty piece of work and needs reporting immediately, aggressive, ignorant, poo-pooing Home Office guidelines, saying the legislation she's warning you under doesn't matter while trying to enforce it without evidence, and wearing earings at work.
The utter contempt that WPC showed to a member of the public doing nothing wrong, purely because someone was butt-hurt, taking their word as gospel, no evidence just a 100% assumption that they were telling the truth, displaying a totally unacceptable attitude. This needs to be sent to professional standards immediately before they overstep the mark with the wrong person.
This female cop is not being impartial and is wholly believing the complainant by saying "You've been getting mouthy", "Yes you have". She will listen to a complaint one day and unlawfully arrest someone and will cost the police a massive lawsuit.
Officer instantly became Judge and Jury and tried you with ONLY half the story. Which was clearly NOT factual. What a joke, only not amusing. Her attitude screams for retraining, or desk job with no public contact
The officer needs to have an official complaint made against her because she told you blatant lies. As someone has previously said she definitely needs re-training.
As a retired police sergeant I am disgusted at the behaviour of that female constable. She clearly has NO idea what she is talking about. To claim TGA is harassing, shouting, zooming in, filming private government building and other inflammatory trigger words shows she plucking things out of her arse. She has no grounds for a dispersal order and is clearly as arrogant as she is ignorant. Had she been on my section her and I would have been having strong words in my office. Section 26 Criminal Justice Act misconduct in public office fits the bill (acting under colour of law)
You sir are what it missing on the force right now, and why the comment section is full of hate towards the police, the training on law is seriously missing and the go to is harassment alarm etc or pace, they were the worst things to have been added, and NO need as the are all already in law, it's a real shame you are retired sir
She seemed very agitated. I'm not sure why. If she was so confident about him being a blogger, why not just politely move him on and stay calm? If such a tame confrontation winds her up that much, I wonder how much she could be relied upon in a more serious situation, such as a ten-man brawl or a violent domestic incident? Perhaps just having a bad day, but in my experience, people usually behave the way they are.
Can't stand coppers calling people MATE. She talks as if she's in a school playground. And the "mate I don't care" when it came to the law was unbelievable.
She instantly assumed they were telling the whole truth and he was lying. "You have been mouthy with them". " No I haven't". " Yes, you have". How did she know who was lying? She wasn't there.
Wow i thought Auditor's had seen it all, but you definitely captured a disgusting example of how not to behave, for someone in the police force. PC1191 was Disgusting in her approach, and showed Bias from the outset. Good Audit mate.
WOW 😮😮😮 such a vile little girl she is, her attitude is terrible, she needs to learn how to deal with the public and not just jump to conclusions. She thinks the uniform makes her right no matter what.
SHE DEALT with this clown "auditor" . Well done girl! she was having none of his bullshit. He was indeed having attitude towards her from the start, he was very argumentative and antagonistic purposely steering shit. He is just desperate trying to act smart in front of police and harass these people . "Under what Law" She told you the Law , you still don't understand and keep arguing. You are sad and insecure .
There was a sign, so I carried on filming the building but didn't reenter private property, noticed there is a private land owner, despite the building being government
The landowner, or representative thereof, are the only ones who can tell you to leave legally. As has been stated above, should’ve walked back on under Sect 33 .
@@mavicmeister29 I agree, but he’d have risked an unlawful malicious arrest. If you’ve got commitments, parking expiring or trains to catch you’re not going to want to be sat in a cell for 8 hours.
No she said it was Act 35?????? Complete moron - she will get somebody seriously hurt or killed if she is not fired. This video must serve as a huge red flag about her behaviour!
She is a total disgrace. She automatically assumed that the people who called were telling the truth and that you were lying, even though you have a recording of the whole incident. This is exactly why they shouldn't be hiring quota hires in the first place. They are always crabby for about a week every month!!!!
14:09 She's not bothered about being filmed making a huge mistake. Shows she's stupid rather than a tyrant. A stupid person really believes that they are doing the right thing and can't be dissuaded otherwise. A tyrant will know that they are acting wrong and their body language would show that. WPC 1191 is just totally and utterly clueless.
She’s fresh and loves it She’s got the power of nothing and is spouting her training loving it Wait till she’s getting her head kicked in and see if acting like that works to a member of the public in a public building
Clearly she is a tyrant who didn't bother to investigate properly, trespass is a civil matter which she should know and it seems that civil servants seem to think they are better than anyone else and clearly lack people skills when dealing with the public. I certainly hope that you make a complaint about her because it's people like her that give the force a bad name.
Unfortunately you let them bully you. It would help if you learnt the relevant laws which would empower you in such situations. The female officer was very unprofessional and a bully. I hope you do report her.
It's actually good to play dumb in some instances. The more they think they can bully you the more they act out and abuse you, and it's all captured on camera.
Mat 12128 was a master at that. Act doddery ,then when he'd had enough----,show time! The camera swung up to eye level,and the gloves came off. Matt , time to come out of retirement......
@@ianhill4585 No. No he wasn't. His great revelation, when he whammied them with his knowledge, was always a bit embarrassing, because he wasn't very bright and his knowledge was sadly lacking!
@@ianhill4585I tend to agree, camera points at the ground, police start talking Bollocks then boom camera swings to eye level and he tells them where they went wrong.
she sums up exactly what is wrong with the policy enforcers (there are no police officers anymore) these days and all power to the auditor. Attitude and totally without impartiality, she wants it her way and no other regardless of whether a law has been broken or not. I'm sure this narcissism is taught them in the training schools... Remember your oath and who it is you SERVE PC1191!
Well handled with being calm and respectful. Would have been interesting to see AB deal with her. Definitely brush up on your rights as she did assert her authority over you with no real challenge back from your side.
Thanks so much, that's what I was trying to do, I understand that I could've legally re-entered the property, but then I noticed the sign, so I filmed from public. I don't understand why people think I didn't stand my ground here, I didn't leave the area and carried on filming and quoted information from the Home Office to her.
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA you left the area the security wanted you removed from , the police officer said the report from the call was you were being mouthy abusive and harassing them all lies , you gave in to easily
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA she bullied you and you let her. Should have left under a clear threat of arrest, at least then you could make a claim. But you just got beaten by a girl
@@johnlennox-pe2nq Probably so, some people have hinted Gwent might be "newer out the box", so may need some seasoning. Knowledge and assurance will follow , I have no doubts.
Section 35 dispersal order is an area agreed locally with the local council that the police can issue a dispersal notice within. But you have to be within the boundaries of the area. They normally give you a leaflet showing where the Section 35 covers. They normally have to do it formally by taking your details otherwise you haven't been issued with a dispersal order. I have had one once, which I breached, but I wasn't within the boundaries of the area it covered when they issued it or when they arrested me for breaching it. I went to court, pleaded not guilty, went to trial and it was all over in 5 minutes as soon as my solicitor showed the magistrate where I was when it was issued and where I was arrested. It was an absolute joke. The courts are full of stupid cases like mine every single day in every single court. People like that Karen make my blood boil they are the most hideous people on the planet. Nasty self absorbed and everything we don't need with the police these days.
I’m wondering where that idea came from. PC Karen and her colleague seemed too thick to be using (abusing) this section. I wonder if there’s another tyrant at the station directing them to quote invalid legislation.
@@DMC888 I fully agree, they have to THINK they know what they are doing because they REALLY believe their own bs. Any hint of being wrong is a chink so unacceptable it's almost feared. It's like a phobia to these horrible good people who THINK they are sooooooo right. But they do that now. Have an inspector feeding them some bs they don't understand and getting them to use it over the radios. Seen it loads in these videos..
She was awful! Unprofessional, ego driven, doesn't know the law and even admitted she doesn't care about the law, it doesn't matter. Another danger to the public whos delusion makes her think she is one of the good guys.
I've just realised why they sent 3 cars to an incident, it's because modern coppers are only worth a third of an old fashioned copper, you have to have three turn-up and the sum of them is supposed to be one proper Copper.
PC1191 committed an offense under Section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 when she demanded your ID for you being "mouthy". It's way past time that public or private prosecutions were made against these police constables for breaking this law.
I've been saying this for the longest. It's great what auditors do and it takes a lot of balls to do it but they really need to start making prosecutions against these officers and make an example of them to serve as a warning to others on not violating our rights as citizens or in being discourteous to us and that being an officer doesn't make them above us or the law with their perceived authority.
What an arrogant ignorant thin blue line gang member. She should be sacked she has the manor of a pig the other gang member stuck by her it's no wonder why people hate the site of them good job standing up for peoples rights.
It just shows you that she’s not bothered about a complaint because the complaints commission don’t do anything about it! The police police in the police is like criminals, monitoring, criminals
Am I the only one that noticed the change in her attitude when back up arrived? Suddenly she had the bottle to be aggressive, bullying and rude! An unpleasant madam who needs lessons on how to treat the public!
THERE IS NO RE-TRAINING THUGS, BULLIES OR TYRANTS. THEY HAVE TO GO. REMEMBER OUR CHILDDREN, ELDERLY AND OTHER VULNERABLE FRIENDS AND RELATIVES ARE ON THE STRET AND COULD ENCOUNTER THIS LAWLESS SCUM!
Female police should be at home supporting their husbands. At least not putting themselves needlessly in harms way; of becoming an other Police Service statistic.
The female officer is the clearest example of what is wrong with the police.
1000% couldnt have said it any better
Definitely.. All looks and no brain cells
She has to be the biggest tyrant i ever seen ,please please take this further as she needs to be kicked out of the force never mind retraining.
She showed you up and shut you down. Very firm and fair
11:54 soliciting for a crime = butthurt ego kick rocks walk of shame................don't run with scissors
The female officer reminds me of the days when people completed a Y.T.S. course and believed they were fully qualified for the job.
whats a yts course? aussie here..
@@fullsendit292 It was a scheme run by the government. Youth Training Scheme. More commonly called Young Thick and Stupid. It was a cheap state funded apprenticeship style thing.
@@DEFIANT71DEFIANT it was where an employer would sack a full time employee because it was cheaper to take on a YTS person and make them do a 30 hour week for £10. At the end of 2 years, the employers was supposed to take them on full time. Instead they got rid of them and took on someone else for a tenner a week. Just the usual Tories making sure wealthy employers could get cheap labour.
I know because my son was on one. Completely *not* thick, nor stupid since he now works in IT and has a couple of degrees and letters after his name which he got for himself, not from some scamming lowlife employer who got rewarded by the Tory scum and felt no guilt for sacking a good employee, because he was expecting to be paid a decent wage so he could support his family.
If the scheme wasn't bad enough, one employer didn't pay my son for 3 weeks. I had to go and threaten him. The arsehole even begrudged the £10.
@@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim It wasn't the greatest scheme, it had issues but it did employ a lot of young people. I know, because I was on one. You can whine all your anti tory leftist waffle, but it did what it set out to do, train and get the youth into the working world. I wasn't accusing the participants of being young thick and stupid, I was explaining what it was known as, and like it or not, that's exactly what it was known as. I have gone on to a great career and don't regret my £29.50 per week beginning one bit.
@@PhyllisGlassup2TheBrim thats sounds ridiculous and we supposedly live in first world countries..
As an ex officer myself, this female officer displayed a completely innapropriate attitude, and she should at the very least, be spoken to, and I suspect, disciplined for this over reach and escalation.
She has no grounds to take the action she did, and it makes me wonder how she ever got through training.
She also cannot issue a S35 dispersal order without the authority of an Inspector. (which she clearly didn`t have).
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The Karen cop said that you had been getting “mouthy” with the staff, as well as “causing trouble” and “shouting at them.”. She concluded that based on third party Information and without conducting any form of investigation or attempting to hear your side. Police used to teach the ABCs in training: A = Accept nothing B = Believe nothing & C = Challenge everything. Karen cop however, accepted what she was told by the complainants, believed what they said and never challenged anything they said. Karen cop’s interpersonal skills were awful, and she would benefit from de-escalation training (or ideally finding another job).
The police will ALWAYS side with whoever represents "authority", in this case the court officials. Joe Public will always be right at the bottom of that pile.
She stated as fact a list of things of which she had absolutely no knowledge.
She needs booting out the farce 😂what a dunce...😂
Absolutelty, astonishing. Behaving like a 13 year old at the shopping centre
She's accepted evrything that came out of the other woman's mouth as truth, others have been just additions.
The section 35 that she threatened you with needs to be authorised by an inspector first , she was bluffing
Thanks AB, I’ve been doing some research myself. I’m going to study the whole act, I’m no expert but I try my best to hold them to account. Thanks for your support
Get yourself to wales AB this auditor got scared
@@Matt-wr9cc this wasn’t in Wales
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Where was it?
Power to the proletariat needs to visit aswell
How would you have handled it AB 😉😂
This is unbelivable.
This is exactly why no one trusts or wants to deal with the bastards.
She was completely out of her depth dealing with the public, she was extremely unprofessional, immediately jumped to conclusions without bothering to ascertain any of the facts and became very abusive. When she didn't get her own way she became like a petulant child. Why are our police so poorly trained.
Unfortunately, she did get her own way though.
@@richardjones8699 - Yeah, I think the auditor didn't do too well either. All auditors should carry copies of the NPCC Memo re Street Photographers. A good auditor would not just allow the cop to carry away his gear, when he was not detained nor under arrest.
He could also have told Karen that Trespass has nothing to with the police and they have NO powers to act in a civil dispute
it is hard to train something that has no brains.
@@topcat1358 I only watch this guy occasionally as he can be prone to being bullied and not standing up for himself. I got really fed up with him letting the UK auditing community down in that regard and lost patience with him.
ACAB
Wow, not one thing she said would stand up in a court. Thickest cop yet.
I agree
Not thick. Tyrannical
Mixture of both, you have to be thick to think that, that tyrannical stance has any credence.
THEY employ anyone these days
@@benbirch2393 Both I think? She has the makings of an Inspector. They just need to lower the scales a bit so she qualifies, even then I think she will need to cheat her way in.
She might be the worst example of law enforcement I've ever seen! Blowing off her mouth with out proof based on heresay, ignorant of the law and a damn school yard bully. Take her badge and send her home to cook and clean for a man. Imagine lying to her when everything is on film!
Can't use a section 35 Dispersal order unless a police officer of the rank of Inspector or above has authorise in writing the use of dispersal powers under section 34 of the Crime and Policing Act 2014 Act in a specified locality and during a specified period.
She also demanded his name and said he had to tell her.
The question is where did that come from? I can’t imagine she came up with it, unless she Googled ‘dispersal notice’ before getting out of the car.
So file that complaint against her to Police Standards. It's a must ! This corrupt pig needs to be made accountable for her corrupt methods
Wish this auditor knew the law a bit beyter- even I know you can't just disperse somebody without it coming from higher up 😮
She’s totally nuts! It’s crazy that she believes she can just make law up on the fly! 😠
It is a common tactic to save themselves losing face. The most effective ones approach with an open mind, consider the facts, consider the law and their powers then make a decision. If they haven't engaged in bullying, judgemental tatics, or possibly risen to the bait of the person they are talking, they can act appropriately or they can walk away without any criticism or shame.
she needs to go home and tell her kids that stuff and be a baby making machine even though not sure who would want to breed her
100% CHAV
That female officer Needs an ego check, she's out of control!
Stroppy little WPC.. Earning the hate.. Making the law up as she went along
Someone telling me to LISTEN ,LISTEN! Unfortunately will have the opposite effect on me. I'll just talk over them.
if she isnt stopped, she will grow worse; top brass needs taking her down 10 pegs; no doubt next she will be strip searching sch children for drugs....
@@ianhill4585 Fingers in ear's LA LA LA LA LA LA.....
@@WhiteDieselShed That's another option too. If you can counter every word that comes out their stupid gobs after the "listen" command,will infuriate them even more, not only are you not obeying and LISTENING, you're actually overwhelming them with logic, and not falling for their gibberish .
I used this technique on a stroppy builder (he didn't do the listen bit) but he tried to overwhelm me so I just talked over him, he was fuuuuming!!😀
@@ianhill4585 Think my other comment of quoting US laws when they spout rubbish may get a better response. Plead the 5th and keep repeating they are violating your 1st and 2nd amendments etc. :)
This is why we need auditors. These power tripping, narcissistic toddlers in clown suits need to be put in check!
Their not auditors.they just go round winding people up.these auditors need to work for a living
And this audit was pathetic.. . She bullied him and he caved
She claimed to issue a Section 36 dispersal order, which is predicated on anti-social behaviour, which he was not engaging.
"Turn your camera off because I don't want you to film me." LMAO!
Wow ! That female officer is a walking civil suit. Terrible attitude. The extent of her ‘impartial investigation’ involved listening to one side of a dispute and then taking what they said as inerrant fact, without any attempt to get the other side . . . does she even understand the concept of a self-serving statement in law ? . . . And any attempt by you to give your account was 'argumentative' and 'having an attitude'.
Just wow, she would fold, like paper in the wind, on the witness stand with that level of 'evidence'.
dave - The karen cop is totally incompetent and was out of her depth. She has NOT a clue about IMPARTIALITY and fairness. Probably joined the cops to look for a hubby.
The Metropolitan police provide officers with guidance for public photography, in order to stop lawsuits, this lady officer broke every guideline
Dave Lordy - what an excellent comment 👏 👏👏
thar is the Police in a nut shell today ... nothing professional about them whatsoever .... now they are just a Liberal mouthpiece ..only working for one side
SHE DEALT with this clown "auditor" . Well done girl! she was having none of his bullshit. He was indeed having attitude towards her from the start, he was very argumentative and antagonistic purposely steering shit.
He is just desperate trying to act smart in front of police and harass these people .
"Under what Law"
She told you the Law , you still don't understand and keep arguing. You are sad and insecure .
uff... this officer neds to go back to school!... her ignorance is dangerous!... absolutely vile!
im not so sure she wasnt still at school
Be she applies the same entitled attitude to her police role as she does to her fella back at home
@@tommy-trump-1967 - yeah, she was very immature
Absolutely pursue it. She should've listened to your side before criminalizing you. Her 'what I say is all that matters' attitude is dangerous for herself and the members of public she is paid to serve.
No les importa tu version, sos culpable hasta que se demuestre lo contrario.
The citizen was the only one with video so she would have got the truth! The cop is a criminal!
This is when you get a group of 50 people with cameras and all go in at once and refuse to leave.
She needs reporting what an absolute tyrant!
Too right
Actually report her. Don't just talk about it!
@@secretsanta5530 done
Accountability !!!!! Little girl cops doesn't like being questioned, but she bloody needs to be.
Cops just blatantly lie to the public. It's disgusting.
Don't worry, they investigate themselves.
They've even been known to slap the odd wrist before hugging vigorously.
100% THEY ARE BULLIES...VILE ROTTEN & CORRUPT PEOPLE!!!
They are very disgusting humans.
Report them to a body that is mostly ex cops , and the rest are police bootlickers .
( if you want to waste your time)
You can see by police ‘s attitude to being reported, they could not care less .
PC Princess there wasn't told "No" enough as a child. She was on the verge of sulking, stomping her feet and telling her daddy on you before the officer who at least knows how to behave himself in his profession rocked up.
She's just a box ticked for the police force. Probs got it over someone actually competent.
She is exactly what is wrong with policing today. Should be sacked.
Fook me! She has no idea WTF she is doing! How many citizens has she abused. She seriously needs retraining! Well done for keeping your cool TG👏🏻
Thank you
With that kind of personality retraining wouldn't do any good.
Theres no place for this Karen in this occupation
She needs retraining as a tea lady.
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA if she handcuffed you off camera then who can blame her after the way you carry on
It is clear to see that this young lady has already reached the pinnacle of her career in the police service.
Soon to be promoted to Sargent!
Down hill from here
She's exactly the type to get promoted
omo - That young "lady" is NO lady!.....She's more like a spoilt only child.
Which young lady? Didn't see any lady there.
That woman police officer is a total disgrace!!
That female cop was ready to believe TGA had been abusive. She was also shown to clearly be in competent and has a bad attitude due to her inferiority complex.
Her ego and attitude is alarming how rude and entitled.😮
Section 35 orders:
1. Must be authorised by an inspector or higher rank
2. Dispersal orders by a constable must be given in writing (They weren't)
3. They must specify the area.
4. They must specify the duration of the order.
5. A record must be kept.
Thanks for that. She is not fit to clean the streets.
And must be in place at THE TIME of any incident and NOT retrospectively!
Even if it was private then it’s a civil matter of trespass which isn’t illegal.
The fact the WPC lacked impartiality and failed to investigate is astoundingly poor policing. The fact she took your stuff is theft or deprivation of property or even assault.
I would have asked if they were detaining you and the fact she can’t cite any real law is an indicator of how poorly trained the police are.
The fact the bloke said you were aggressive is a false police report to have them come in on blue lights.
The female police officer was a disgrace. Her attitude was appalling. Threatening arrest under some load of rubbish law. Then a dispersal order was thrown into the equation. She does not have the authority to issue this as there was none in place.
@@jamesdiskin6142 Don't talk shite. Gwent is a little gobshite and doesn't deserve any respect, reason being it works both ways, as you well know, frauditors don't do respect and are unreasonable, in this video he got jogged on. PERFECT result. 😂🤣😂🤣
@@jamesdiskin6142 Dispersal Orders are issued by Inspectors and above when it is believed that serious disorder may occur and tend to be limited to major events. I won't even touch on posting them, how long they last, their physical limitations and the powers inferred. In short , this female cop lied. But what would you expect from someone who obviously thinks that to be taken seriously in The Met as a cop you have to lie and make bullshot threats to citizens threats backed up by nothing. As for the ASBO this stupid gob***** tried to threaten with, it would have been an interesting legal an civil case.
When he was able to quote the laws that is where she lost contact and did not know what he was talking about and sheepishly plucked something out of the air but when questioned could not reply as there was no such law. Her parents must be very proud to have such a ignorant daughter.
@@geraldrobertson8605 Same could be said for you with an attitude like that lol
She needs reports immediately, ‘yes you have’ she wasn’t even there.
She’s awful! Absolute tyrant get off the force !
This female cop is not being impartial and is wholly believing the complainant by saying "You've been getting mouthy", "Yes you have".
She will listen to a complaint one day and unlawfully arrest someone and will cost the police a massive lawsuit.
What a terrible woman,a disgrace to the police uniform
She was one of the worst I've seen, certainly needs retraining or a desk job. No interest in impartiality, this one is shocking
Yet nothing will happen to her because UK auditors never do any follow-up. It’s disgusting.
The best thing to do is redeploy it as a traffic warden
Sociopath
Should never of been employed just a box tick.
No.
She should never be i any kind of authority role. Not even a school dinner monitor.....
This cop is a danger to the public.
She will listen to a complaint one day and unlawfully arrest someone and will cost the police a massive lawsuit.
She will definitely be a danger to a colleague one day.
Si, pero al menos en uk no usan armas de fuego!
She can't just create a dispersal zone because she fancies it. Totally clueless.
I hope her family and friends see this video and how incompetent she actually is, absolute disgrace
They won't care. They'll side with her.
Any friends she has will most likely be just like her because no decent person could be friends with such a person imo!
I doubt that things family are any better & narcs don't have friends
@@karenhogan-t5w But the friend of friends families get to see lil Johnnies mates mother is a cow and wont allow sleep-overs.
Where did this idea that police are highly trained come from? The general ignorance of the law amongst them is bewildering.
Driven by ego and low IQ.
she summed it up she doesn't care about the law.
Just shows what is completely wrong with the police today.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to fulfil their equal opportunities employment rules?
This plod should be arrested for idiocy in the first degree....her Croydon Face-lift is almost perfect...😅😊😂
The don’t want smart ones. They want pliable idiots.
Triggered little officer needs a safe space after this interaction
Not going to mention the manchild with a camera desperately seeking some attention then?!
Disgusting behaviour by WPC. SHE NEEDS RETRAINING
@@wix7657 Don't want her serving my fries 😂
@@wix7657She wouldn't get past the interview.
No, she needs to "unlive" while at work so she can never again do stuff like that
She shouldn’t be a cop.
How was he being polite ???
The arrogance seeped out of every ounce of her body. Policing by consent is dead according to that arrogant woman.
That female cop is a nasty piece of work and needs reporting immediately, aggressive, ignorant, poo-pooing Home Office guidelines, saying the legislation she's warning you under doesn't matter while trying to enforce it without evidence, and wearing earings at work.
And that’s her thinking she was being reasonable…
Who is going to report her?? Who is going to make sure she’s disciplined???
Sorry to the individual in a relationship with " it "
@@interestedparty00who guards the guards is what you’re saying
@terrysmith381 who the hell would want to phuck her let alone wake up with her in the morning?
The utter contempt that WPC showed to a member of the public doing nothing wrong, purely because someone was butt-hurt, taking their word as gospel, no evidence just a 100% assumption that they were telling the truth, displaying a totally unacceptable attitude. This needs to be sent to professional standards immediately before they overstep the mark with the wrong person.
In this day an age you can not say WPC it's so not WOKE. LOL
This female cop is not being impartial and is wholly believing the complainant by saying "You've been getting mouthy", "Yes you have".
She will listen to a complaint one day and unlawfully arrest someone and will cost the police a massive lawsuit.
As if you'd go outside and tell a member of the public that they will do something you tell them...😂
The WPC was truly awful, but the auditor was guilty of civil trespass.
@@Aidankiwi Exactly! CIVIL trespass, so NOT a criminal offence.
@4:20 "the land lord owns the land" this one's got brains I see 😂
Wow! What an attitude. Unbelievable, threatening unlawful arrest based on lies.
She will listen to a complaint one day and unlawfully arrest someone and will cost the police a massive lawsuit.
Disgusting attitude from a pos cop, she needs to be fired for sure.
Officer instantly became Judge and Jury and tried you with ONLY half the story. Which was clearly NOT factual. What a joke, only not amusing. Her attitude screams for retraining, or desk job with no public contact
The standard of Policing in this country is abysmal
Australia has become the same.
13 years of Tory cuts and underfunding
At least he left without being shot or strangled :P
She is completely out of of control. Horrifying policing, and she knows she’s being filmed!
Does a mirror scare her?
@@angieestey2778 It should do.
Feel sorry for her bitch 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sehe a proper munter, needs to get back to the trough the cheeky trotter
Can only imagine what she’s like with no cameras
The officer needs to have an official complaint made against her because she told you blatant lies. As someone has previously said she definitely needs re-training.
You can never re-train tyrants - she needs to be charged with abuse under the colour of law.
One step away from restraining somebody by a knee on their neck 🤷🤦
Retraining that wiil not work it's the ones higher up that need investigation. as presently happening?
But he will do nothing, just after views
As a retired police sergeant I am disgusted at the behaviour of that female constable. She clearly has NO idea what she is talking about. To claim TGA is harassing, shouting, zooming in, filming private government building and other inflammatory trigger words shows she plucking things out of her arse. She has no grounds for a dispersal order and is clearly as arrogant as she is ignorant. Had she been on my section her and I would have been having strong words in my office.
Section 26 Criminal Justice Act misconduct in public office fits the bill (acting under colour of law)
Brilliant comment sir, thank you.
You sir are what it missing on the force right now, and why the comment section is full of hate towards the police, the training on law is seriously missing and the go to is harassment alarm etc or pace, they were the worst things to have been added, and NO need as the are all already in law, it's a real shame you are retired sir
She seemed very agitated. I'm not sure why. If she was so confident about him being a blogger, why not just politely move him on and stay calm? If such a tame confrontation winds her up that much, I wonder how much she could be relied upon in a more serious situation, such as a ten-man brawl or a violent domestic incident? Perhaps just having a bad day, but in my experience, people usually behave the way they are.
Can't stand coppers calling people MATE. She talks as if she's in a school playground. And the "mate I don't care" when it came to the law was unbelievable.
Here, here well said!
This is where you go back with a drone. ;)
She instantly assumed they were telling the whole truth and he was lying. "You have been mouthy with them". " No I haven't". " Yes, you have". How did she know who was lying? She wasn't there.
Exactly and the auditor should have pushed that point.
She was completely biased.
Mouthy eh?
Is that mouthy as in against the law from1897 - "getting mouthy in the presence of a twat act" i believe?
She even said TGA “ was shouting “. Never happened.
@@LorrieLogan He should have said, "of course you realise this gizmo records sound as well,------- where was the shouting"?
she needs taking off the streets until she has been retrained threatening to unlawfully arrest someone is an assault.
Wow i thought Auditor's had seen it all, but you definitely captured a disgusting example of how not to behave, for someone in the police force. PC1191 was Disgusting in her approach, and showed Bias from the outset. Good Audit mate.
WOW 😮😮😮 such a vile little girl she is, her attitude is terrible, she needs to learn how to deal with the public and not just jump to conclusions. She thinks the uniform makes her right no matter what.
SHE DEALT with this clown "auditor" . Well done girl! she was having none of his bullshit. He was indeed having attitude towards her from the start, he was very argumentative and antagonistic purposely steering shit.
He is just desperate trying to act smart in front of police and harass these people .
"Under what Law"
She told you the Law , you still don't understand and keep arguing. You are sad and insecure .
You just let that wee coward bully you off of public property.
@@thailand999 it was embarrassing to watch unfortunately
There was a sign, so I carried on filming the building but didn't reenter private property, noticed there is a private land owner, despite the building being government
The landowner, or representative thereof, are the only ones who can tell you to leave legally. As has been stated above, should’ve walked back on under Sect 33 .
@@mavicmeister29 I agree, but he’d have risked an unlawful malicious arrest. If you’ve got commitments, parking expiring or trains to catch you’re not going to want to be sat in a cell for 8 hours.
LMAO " I DONT LIKE IT!!" ooohhh someone has serious anger issues there.
You must sue over this and please update us. She should not be a police officer.
Will do
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Its exactly why she is an officer and the cameras do not lie unlike all these clowns 🤡
Ignorance of the law is profound in the lie lady
@TheGwentAuditorTGAH
Has the complaint gone in for this abusive ignorant biatch?
I'm appalled!
That female police officer was appalling she couldnt state the Act that s35 belonged to.
No she said it was Act 35?????? Complete moron - she will get somebody seriously hurt or killed if she is not fired. This video must serve as a huge red flag about her behaviour!
When auditor said that he was recording she like a 5 year old pointed to her camera twice.
That woman is a loose cannon, what a waste of taxpayers money
Wow she's really escalating, and she said she doesn't care, so young and no idea. Hopefully other Auditors go here
Disgusting behaviour, you're correct she needs retraining, definitely put in a complaint
She is a total disgrace. She automatically assumed that the people who called were telling the truth and that you were lying, even though you have a recording of the whole incident. This is exactly why they shouldn't be hiring quota hires in the first place. They are always crabby for about a week every month!!!!
This is as dystopian as it gets!
More auditors need to know of this video. Audio that station, audit this place.
Behaviour like this is unacceptable.
14:09 She's not bothered about being filmed making a huge mistake. Shows she's stupid rather than a tyrant. A stupid person really believes that they are doing the right thing and can't be dissuaded otherwise. A tyrant will know that they are acting wrong and their body language would show that. WPC 1191 is just totally and utterly clueless.
That female Officer is a great example of what is wrong with the Police. Absolutely disgusting attitude and behaviour.
That’s one thick cop.
She’s fresh and loves it
She’s got the power of nothing and is spouting her training loving it
Wait till she’s getting her head kicked in and see if acting like that works to a member of the public in a public building
The attitude of that mouthy PC, lying to you and taking the word of the Karen before investigating 😡
Prime example of police making things worse 🤦🏻♀️
Clearly she is a tyrant who didn't bother to investigate properly, trespass is a civil matter which she should know and it seems that civil servants seem to think they are better than anyone else and clearly lack people skills when dealing with the public. I certainly hope that you make a complaint about her because it's people like her that give the force a bad name.
Unfortunately you let them bully you. It would help if you learnt the relevant laws which would empower you in such situations. The female officer was very unprofessional and a bully. I hope you do report her.
It's actually good to play dumb in some instances. The more they think they can bully you the more they act out and abuse you, and it's all captured on camera.
Mat 12128 was a master at that. Act doddery ,then when he'd had enough----,show time! The camera swung up to eye level,and the gloves came off.
Matt , time to come out of retirement......
@@ianhill4585 No. No he wasn't. His great revelation, when he whammied them with his knowledge, was always a bit embarrassing, because he wasn't very bright and his knowledge was sadly lacking!
@@juliepeace8388 Well that is true ---- in your opinion.
And not true ,in mine.
So we're at an impasse.
@@ianhill4585I tend to agree, camera points at the ground, police start talking Bollocks then boom camera swings to eye level and he tells them where they went wrong.
That woman is arrogant, hostile and wilfully ignorant. The perfect combo they look for in a copper. She’ll go far.
It sometimes feels like the police actually want the public to distrust and resent them. They see it as us vs them.
it is exactly how they want it
OMG this girl shouldn't be an officer. She's allowing her actions to be governed by her emotions. Needs retraining.
KevinJEvans forget the retraining more like she needs to get another job
she sums up exactly what is wrong with the policy enforcers (there are no police officers anymore) these days and all power to the auditor. Attitude and totally without impartiality, she wants it her way and no other regardless of whether a law has been broken or not. I'm sure this narcissism is taught them in the training schools...
Remember your oath and who it is you SERVE PC1191!
Well handled with being calm and respectful. Would have been interesting to see AB deal with her. Definitely brush up on your rights as she did assert her authority over you with no real challenge back from your side.
Thanks so much, that's what I was trying to do, I understand that I could've legally re-entered the property, but then I noticed the sign, so I filmed from public. I don't understand why people think I didn't stand my ground here, I didn't leave the area and carried on filming and quoted information from the Home Office to her.
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA you left the area the security wanted you removed from , the police officer said the report from the call was you were being mouthy abusive and harassing them all lies , you gave in to easily
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA she bullied you and you let her.
Should have left under a clear threat of arrest, at least then you could make a claim. But you just got beaten by a girl
TGA is getting stronger, I like his approach but at times he needs to blast straight back at them instead of essentially backing down
@@jamieprice23Troll
Section 35 requires an Inspectors Authority.
That should have been tested by walking back on,and seeing if they arrest you (unlawfully ) or say "whooopsie", and run for the hills.
@@johnlennox-pe2nq Probably so, some people have hinted Gwent might be "newer out the box", so may need some seasoning. Knowledge and assurance will follow , I have no doubts.
This little girl with a badge is a total mess ! OMG ! Who does she think she is ?
It's really great to see how hard the police is trying to serve the public
Section 35 dispersal order is an area agreed locally with the local council that the police can issue a dispersal notice within. But you have to be within the boundaries of the area. They normally give you a leaflet showing where the Section 35 covers. They normally have to do it formally by taking your details otherwise you haven't been issued with a dispersal order. I have had one once, which I breached, but I wasn't within the boundaries of the area it covered when they issued it or when they arrested me for breaching it. I went to court, pleaded not guilty, went to trial and it was all over in 5 minutes as soon as my solicitor showed the magistrate where I was when it was issued and where I was arrested. It was an absolute joke. The courts are full of stupid cases like mine every single day in every single court. People like that Karen make my blood boil they are the most hideous people on the planet. Nasty self absorbed and everything we don't need with the police these days.
I’m wondering where that idea came from. PC Karen and her colleague seemed too thick to be using (abusing) this section. I wonder if there’s another tyrant at the station directing them to quote invalid legislation.
@@DMC888 I fully agree, they have to THINK they know what they are doing because they REALLY believe their own bs. Any hint of being wrong is a chink so unacceptable it's almost feared. It's like a phobia to these horrible good people who THINK they are sooooooo right. But they do that now. Have an inspector feeding them some bs they don't understand and getting them to use it over the radios. Seen it loads in these videos..
Bloke cop was tridy, respectful, clear and not at all as judgemental as his female counterpart. That little girl needs retraining.
She was awful! Unprofessional, ego driven, doesn't know the law and even admitted she doesn't care about the law, it doesn't matter. Another danger to the public whos delusion makes her think she is one of the good guys.
Thinks wearing a costume gives her the right to ride roughshod over all laws and codes of conduct, what an absolute disgrace, needs sacking
I've just realised why they sent 3 cars to an incident, it's because modern coppers are only worth a third of an old fashioned copper, you have to have three turn-up and the sum of them is supposed to be one proper Copper.
There ignorance of the law is staggering and what’s more disturbing is we’re paying for it 😥
“Their” not “there”
The worst kind of police officer is always a female with an attitude problem
On the blob you mean.
Thin blue line gang mentality ,she is pretending to be one of the boys .
@@gary8306 probably 😂😂
Very true.
Kiddy cops
PC1191 committed an offense under Section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 when she demanded your ID for you being "mouthy".
It's way past time that public or private prosecutions were made against these police constables for breaking this law.
lint - I thought she said "mardy" (a slang word with a similar meaning)
I've been saying this for the longest. It's great what auditors do and it takes a lot of balls to do it but they really need to start making prosecutions against these officers and make an example of them to serve as a warning to others on not violating our rights as citizens or in being discourteous to us and that being an officer doesn't make them above us or the law with their perceived authority.
Mass audits required at these premises 👍
Well thats a really clever and mature way of dealing with the problem isnt it.
@@davidclare7494 yes it is sparky
He'll be back with his "gang" for sure.
Yep I would like to see that and the bitch put in her place.
@@davidclare7494 What are you doing to help?
Report her, she swore at you that tyrant
What an arrogant ignorant thin blue line gang member. She should be sacked she has the manor of a pig the other gang member stuck by her it's no wonder why people hate the site of them good job standing up for peoples rights.
Ha ha stop being a snowflake.
Auditors Assemble! That place needs to be relentlessly audited until they get the message
It just shows you that she’s not bothered about a complaint because the complaints commission don’t do anything about it! The police police in the police is like criminals, monitoring, criminals
Another example of our SHAMEFUL Police!!!
Am I the only one that noticed the change in her attitude when back up arrived? Suddenly she had the bottle to be aggressive, bullying and rude! An unpleasant madam who needs lessons on how to treat the public!
She needs to get fired and thrown in jail for violating your rights!! Desgusting human she is!!
“Mate, I don’t care about the home office document” that just says it all about her 😏
Auditor to PC 1191: 'How long have you been a police officer?'
PC 1191 to auditor: 'All day, Sir.'
PC 1191 looks at her watch. 😂
The female officer needs reprimanding. The male officer was a good example of what we pay them for.
Female constable needs to be retrained and quickly as she is a serious liability to the public.
THERE IS NO RE-TRAINING THUGS, BULLIES OR TYRANTS. THEY HAVE TO GO. REMEMBER OUR CHILDDREN, ELDERLY AND OTHER VULNERABLE FRIENDS AND RELATIVES ARE ON THE STRET AND COULD ENCOUNTER THIS LAWLESS SCUM!
Female police should be at home supporting their husbands. At least not putting themselves needlessly in harms way; of becoming an other Police Service statistic.