Great video! I migrated to EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma from Windows 11 last summer full time and I've been very happy with it, aside from a couple of important learning experiences. That said I had previous experience playing with Arch and Manjaro on secondary machines prior. Can only agree that EOS is great for those starting out with Linux who like the look of what Arch has to offer.
From somebody migrating from Windows and trying Linux for the first time there is a parameter that is very important: consistency. Windows users don't want to acknowledge the OS, they want to forget about it's existence. Like when you sit down to eat dinner, you don't really think about the table you're eating on, you just set your plate down and start eating. Of the distros listed Mint is the best, and only, example of an OS that completely gets out of the way of the user allowing them to simply do what they want. Obviously not completely, this is where Windows shines in it's ability to, essentially, do everything for you. I mention Windows refugees simply because this is going to be the biggest influx of users soon. Microsoft is making decisions that even the normies can't ignore anymore. The last straw, I believe, will be when MS finally adds the subscription model they've been wanting to include since around Windows 8. The replacement OS needn't be visually similar to Windows, it just needs to get out of the way of the programs the users want to run. Mint does this better than any other distro I've seen in Linux. It's got its limitations, but a non-power user would, most likely, never notice those. If it can run games, an internet browser, and allow for easy file navigation (something Linux people don't seem to realize is very important to normies) then it wins. That last bit is key, so many people try Linux distros out and leave simply because they couldn't figure out the folder navigation to find where they saved that pdf document they wanted to e-mail. It sounds silly, but it's part of that whole "get out of the way" need the average person requires of an operating system.
This right here. As a Windows user considering moving to Linux for precisely the reasons outlined in your comment, I don't care that much about customizability and console commands as long as I don't have familiar consistency there. I also don't want something 'new' or challenging. Not in my operating system that I have to use daily for work. Gaming, an internet browser, and file navigation is 90% of all that I ever use on Windows, and I don't need much else. I tested Mint today and have to say - pretty impressed. However, I did have to customize some stuff, install flatpaks, and look up console commands online for seemingly basic things like installing Slack. I'm pretty sure it's because I had no idea what I was doing. I'll keep testing for the coming weeks and I'm confident I'll be able to fully move to Mint by the year's end. Gaming will be a big one, though I'm not a fan of games running on anti-cheat, so Proton + Lutris should do the trick, hopefully. I did notice that most Linux guides online assumed knowledge that I simply didn't possess. Flatpaks here, repositories there, sudo over there, and so on. All relatively simple stuff that you only learn once, more or less. But still, the info isn't that accessible to a newcomer. Fuck Microsoft to the moon, though.
I've used both cachyos for a month now and mint for 2 months before that,(migrated because of AUR). I do feel cachyos get's out of the way just like mint does you know, no issues faced, although battery life was somewhat more on mint
I'm using garuda, the bloat is not a problem for me on linux because programs seams to take less disk space and when you don't use them they don't execute themselves at the boot or in the start menu or things like that. And all preinstalled packages are good programs which has an utility, it's not candy crush 😂. The main reason which take me on garuda is the snapper, I just came from windows, I used Ubuntu 16 during my studies and the thing I learned on linux is : when you are trying to install big things like Nvidia drivers, new DE, WIP packages etc. Your distro break. For me the worst part of garuda is the dragonised kde which looks like a bad night club. And I had to figure out how to modify everything, has fairly new linux user was a bit a pain. Anyway good video, I really enjoyed it because I learned a lot about every distro in a 29mins video, the subject was kind of obscure before for me.
I'm also a new user and tried nobara, bazzite and Garuda so far and Chimera OS is currently installing. From it's design (I love that "night club" design!) and speed I really liked Garuda the best! Just encountering so many issues and driver conflicts from the beginning, I deinstalled it for now in search of something more easy to use, and more stable. Had conflicts between the needed "pulseaudio" and the other package with "...wire", and needed parts of both, but they didn't like each other... At that point also my wifi connection didn't work anymore at all... Also only made it to connect my Legion Go controllers (left and right part) one by one, but they weren't recognized as a full Xbox controller like under Windows... Bazzite for that so far is really great! Direct Steam Big Picture implementation, and many great features with side menu like on steam OS (frame limiter, Basic TDP settings, unluckily only going to 15 Watts and would need up to 30/35 Watts for my Lenovo Legion Go I'm running it on) but an easy switch to the Gaming optimized Fedora system running besides/behind it. The controller parts (left and right together) was recognized directly and worked from the first beginning in Steam (probably also with other launchers, but still need to try it out. With Nobara I had controller issues too and therefore didn't try it any further. Currently I'm installing Chimera which seems to be the mostly customized one of them all for gaming... Directly recognized my Legion Go during the installation! (Bazzite too if I recall right, but only had half baked settings fitting for my Legion Go, and I cant good TPU control software on linux...)
I'm using Garuda KDE lite version and installed much of their apps later. I do like the default looks of KDE. Endeavouros broke much of my games 2 days ago. Went to Nobara and Nobara broke my sound in games. After one hour of debugging this and my lack of patience went to the roof I went for Garuda KDE lite. Installed steam and there we go. Flawless gaming. If Garuda fails me I will go to OpenSuse TW.
I went with Garuda XFCE to get away from the eye candy of the dragonized version. Currently looking into Endeavor, but I love that Garuda has all gaming things ready to install.
I watched many of your videos but this is the one! I switched from Windows to Linux Mint Edge and thank to your tips from another video, games run awesome! Merci Beaucoup mon Ami!
I'm on Manjaro and Ive been very happy with it for the last 2 years +. Garuda has so far been my 2nd favourite. Im also very interested in CachyOS and Ive been playing around with Tumbleweed but I havnt done any gaming on it. Thanks for video.
@@mr.mastermind4840 Gnome is less buggy verall compared with KDE but lacks some really important features such as fractional scaling an d KDE is more performant. But I cant use Gnome without a bunch of addons as I find it totally counter intuitive. And on a rolling realease distro running Gnome with a bunch of addons is a bad idea.
I downloaded Garuda with all the gaming programs pre-installed after not knowing how to build programs on kubuntu, and after making the desktop look like normal KDE I've been very happy with it so far.
Thanks for giving us a lowdown on some the major distros for gaming or content creation. But, for Ubuntu 24.04 LTS is coming out in a few days from now and the new Gnome 46 (I believe has VRR (Variable Refresh Rate)) but then your other point snap. Thanks for the tips about CachyOS and Endeavour. About a year ago I installed Ubuntu 23.04 and it didn't work too well; so I went back to Win11 for my daily driver. But I like some things about Linux. Win11 gave may better fps stability and a less hot computer; Ubuntu ran hotter.
I just wanna hear you say, "UWAAAUGH!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!" 🤣 Thanks for the video. With support for Win10 ending and the nightmare of Win11 and Copilot recording EVERYTHING, I'm finally looking into Linux hoping it can truly replace Windows.
I think Garuda non gaming edition is not any more bloated than a lot of other distros. The Dragonized desktop for sure is loaded down with effects and other things but Garuda cinnamon is an excellent choice for those who want the power of garuda with a simple and stable desktop.
I decided to ditch windows due the end of support of win10, and then I switched to win11, I think is all a buggy mess, just to find out the new spyware that MS is going to introduce (Recall), and is really pushing the people to change their OS
I'm using nobara on my nvidia notebook and it was the best experience i ever had with linux (only pop_os was so good with dual gpu, but is too outdated now) I think i will try cachy, i always wanted to use an arch based distro but the setup is too much for me
Excellent. En libriste qui ne suit pas de près les évolutions, c'est parfait pour se mettre à jour sur le paysage actuel des distros gaming. Par rapport aux autres recherches que j'avais faites, il manquerait juste Pop!Os ! Tu as prévu d'en faire un challenge un jour ?
There is an issue with the definition of tier lists on virtually all videos grading Linux distros, defining tiers should be based on how effective X is for Y use case. At least you explained your use case, it is important to highlight there are no perfect distros for all use cases. Just a thing I think you can highlight better in a future video. Good job.
From what I found from learning how to run Linux and from, i talked to people on Discord is that .exe is best, and Windows 10 is also the best. All Linux products are inferior in time spent trying to get things working, I really want to get into Linux more, but the more I learn, the more it seems to be wasting time.
I have been mostly using SuSE but I wonder if Mint might be better. On the one hand Mint seems to be even easier to install, but Cinnamon UI and Ubuntu low level system are kinda keeping me from that. I know SuSE are also doing in some parts their own thing, but I like YaST most of the time better than other setup tools. I used to use Leap, but I guess, I should take a jump of faith going for Tumbleweed.
great video. and a question from my side. for linux mint. there is an ubuntu based version and a debian based version available. but what version do you talk about in your video? my wild guess is debian based because kde > gnome for gaming. right? :D
Yeah, Arch is this kind of OS that you hate and love at the same time for having to spend a lot of time learning about it and researching answers to even smallest problems
Hello, j'aime les tiers liste pour les débutant et indécis comme moi. Mais qu'en est-il de Pop OS basé sur Ubuntu mais qui viendra avec l'environnement COSMIC prochainement? Il y a aussi Bazzite OS meilleure ou pareil que Nobara? Sans bloatware? Merci encore pour tes avis
Never used endeavouros but i'm curious, what comes with it except for DE? Cause like i don't see the appeal when you can just archinstall and choose a DE and i think you can even choose among a bunch of apps to install by default like browser and stuff
You can choose what DE you want while installing endeavouros, but you would need to be connected to the internet. KDE plasma is default if you aren't connected to the internet
Tumbleweed has been the best linux/linux gaming experience ive had & Im also on the gnome DE & it has changed me like using cinnamon/KDE feels so weird now lol
Im pretty surprised about nobara i installed it a few days ago. Gpu detection was perfect. Docker desktop installation was simple becouse nobara is basicly fedora with some scripts. Kvm working with gpu passtrough and you have both nobara and fedora repos . And i never had such a simple davinci resolve installation, just download run the installer and afterwords execute the nobara Script for dependencies. Only Thing is that the calamares installer is a bad choice, becouse dual boot dosnt work properly with Windows and you cant configure lvm. The Trick is to use the Windows efi Partition or install tripple boot with debian or openSUSE tumbleweed. I couldnt config the nobara grub2 to dual boot or boot at all just boot with supergrub
Arch user here, some Nobara, my favorite for gaming, is Arch, add cachyos repo, add garuda repo, chaotic aur repo, and snag the enhancements for cpu from there. As for Garuda, the KDE dragonized gaming edition is extreme bloat, but the just KDE dragonized (non gaming edition) isnt really bloated imo, install it and add in the stuff post install you want.
What CPU enhancements are you referring to? I'm using Arch and everything seems to be working well, but I'm curious if there are any enhancements I may be missing.
@@simhz2221 The CachyOS repos have CPU enhancements based on the supported CPU architecture version which are disabled for compatibility out of the box. Although, your mileage may still vary because even if a CPU has the version it might not have some features. Their kernel also pulls stuff from linux-next, zen and clear linux. You can add both to your existing Arch machine though.
I think the Distro depends on the prefered DE, my personal favorit is Cinnamon, therefore I have started with Linux Mint (LMDE is too limited regarding recent Kernel / Mesa), with Mint it was possible upgrading to the latest Kernel & Mesa. Yesterday, I gave Fedora Cinnamon a try and was positive surprised, very good Cinnamon implementation, recent Kernel (6.7.3) and Mesa (23.3.5) and the gaming performance is very good (slightly better than Linux Mint). I am not a fan of "gaming" distros, as every distro is good for gaming (just a question of the packages), important is having the possibility of a recent Kermel & Mesa.
True that Mint allows easily to have latest kernel and mesa with PPA. I am on 6.7.3 because my Legion laptop needs patches for audio available from 6.7.1 only.
I tried several distro's Ubuntu, Pop OS, Kubuntu, KDE Neon 2 Arch based ezarcher and Arco and Tumbleweed, but they all gave me update errors and that's why I settled on MX Linux Xfce because it's install it, set it up to my liking and start using it. MX just works. It's stable, installs in less than 3 minutes, it's quick and with Arc dark and Papirus dark looks good too. I don't game and don't do anything except email and browsing.
Have tried several distros (Manjaro, Fedora, EndeavorOS and Garuda) and in all of them get a lot of issues using OBS-Studio because of the browser principally :S that's why i'm searching for a distro that has good gaming configuration but also good for digital artists and content creators :S What about gamer who also is a digital artist (Blender, inkscape, gimp, darktable, kdenlive, krita, and more) and streamer? i've tested endeavorOS and Garuda, but have been having trobules with the updates on OBS pretty frecuently, and in games, for some reason they run well at the beginning and after some updates, begin to lag :S (my principal reference is Brawlhalla).
I wanna reuse old laptops for a minecraft (java) project with a lot of kids. Ypu once mentioned that you don't recommend cachyos for older pcs... What does come in your mind if our only purpose is to play minecraft without lag and squeeze preformance out of an older machine...
Where is Solus ? Fully agree on Endeavour and OpenSuse. Cachy is small project and a bit rough around the edges but good optimisations though. For me Nobara is the easiest to setup.
I tried to love Endeavor os, but I can't. I have problems with my audiointerface. It doesn't work and I can't fix it. My games are always open on the wrong monitor and that gave me a big headache. I will try some distros like cachy or some of the "almost the best" tear and hope that it will work fine for me.
Tbh arch is just the installation process which is usually a one time thing. Slap a DE on it and should be as easy as just any other. Might be a good idea to install gamemode package as well
5 years on arch gaming works great but i messed lot think so reinstalled OS and switched to garuda dragonize its great distro runing like 4 months now isnt very bloated tou have all for gaming out the box but since i have R7 2700 im gonna switch to gentoo hyprland payed for whole cpu im gonna use it 😁
Why color red is "the best" and color green is "the worst"? I think I would have switched that around.. o) Am am new to Linux land, cannot say much about the video content, sorry! o)
I unfortunately have to disagree on EndeavourOS. I have a MSI GS75 laptop with a RTX 2060. Tried this distro twice and had issues twice... First time, it was lagging for no reasons when moving the cursor. Second time, it was plain broken. However, I have to agree about Garuda. It's a great beautiful distro, but feels way too bloated.
"If you install AUR On manjaro i would give around like 2 weeks to 1 month before it breaks depending on how abviously like AUR applications you install" Well, i have bad news for you, i am an extensive AUR + Manjaro user, my installation is still alive since 2021 - 3 years and going. Yes in those 3 years i had some really minor issues but nothing huge or something that can be qualified as "breaking the system". And btw i use testing branch of arch :rofl:
Salut Airmax, If you are still looking for Distro to test : Tuxedo : Kubuntu without snap, with more recent KDE environment, but more stable than KDE Neon Solus : stable rolling release gaming oriented RegataOS : based on Tumbleweed, with homemade gaming launcher and other additions for an easier gaming experience Thanks for the video, now, I have to try EndeavourOS. 😁
Nice! i agree with your ranking. maybe i would put debian little higher, but the rest is spot on.. i would really like the ranking of mx linux. that one is quite popular also..
I had a lot of trouble trying out Nobara39, which was disappointing. But I ended up installing Mint 21.3 on an older MSI C61 laptop and it went pretty much flawlessly except for, guess what, the Nvidia card. The laptop has a weird hardware setup that uses an Intel video for the HDMI port, and the Nvidia 710M runs the laptop itself. Mint reports them as Intel\Nvidia and I don't know if that means it's using both or what? Anyway, it runs flawlessly and fast for what I use it for. :)
I'm between installing cachyOS Garuda or endeavour but I don't know wich one to choose, I want wobbly wimfows and the lowest input lag posible, anyone have any tips on wich to choose?
I´m new to Linux, but i have installed the 3 of them in my work laptop, the threeth of them are basically the same (Arch) but with more or less things added to be working "Out-of-the-box". EndeavourOS is the most barebones distro, comes with a modified/patched kernel, and is just that, is a barebones arch but with performance improving done for you (remember, out of the box) CachyOS is the middleground, comes with kernel improvings + some useful tools, and also the launcher/welcome has some direct options to install package managers or apps without getting into the terminal Garuda is the most bulky but complete of them, some might say it comes "bloated" but forme is as barebones as cachy, it might be considered bloated because there is a dragonized gaming version which comes with a lot of gaming things (duh), also they come preconfigured for it. The bloathing perception also comes because Garuda apparently uses more ram than other archs distros, Garuda team says that is because that ram is being used to optimize the performance of the system because unused ram is pointless- OH Also, i dont remember if cachy has it too, but garuda has snapper tools so, if your system breaks you can restore a snap and get ereything working again. If you´re used to Linux, EndevourOS is your best bet because just has the performance tweaks, you can customize it and add your preferred apps (and setting up them by yourself) at your looks. CachyOS if you´re familiarized with arch/command line, but you want some basic QOL apps/settings out of the box, with a convenient package manager included, and Garuda if you´re new and want the Arch experience without wanting to invest time into doing wiki research or touching the command line the less as possible. Also, the Garuda "wobbling" is part of the theme, so you can download it and use it in any distro with KDE Desktop. As for performance, i felt Garuda kinda slow, it isn´t slow, just it feels like. Nobara has been the smoothest i´ve tested, but i want the Arch experience so for now i´m using CachyOS, the middleground of them, i might go with Garuda again, just because i like eagles. EDIT: wording corrections
@@luismillan1541 thanks i ended up installing cachyos but i had to go back to windows for university stuff, but im going to dual boot into garuda when i have the time to install it, your answer is really complete btw, thanks a lot, im choosing garuda because of your comment
I have a laptop + external GPU GTX1660SUPER Fedora, Mint, Nobara , Manjaro, MX Linux - don`t loading after install nvidia drivers Ubuntu - works fine if install nvidia open drivers So for me Ubuntu - HELL YEAH!!!
Ok donc avec un ryzen 5 7600, une 7800xt et 32 Go de ram je pourrais partir sur quoi ? Je suis un utilisateur avancé on va dire mais pas envie de me prendre le choux. Endeavour ? (j'ai testé Manjaro sur mon laptop pendant 3 ans) Catchy ? Mint (vanilla voire LMDE)?
Si Manjaro te convient je vois pas l interet de changer, que ce soit sur un laptop ou sur un fixe. Endeavour necessite un peu plus de connaissances pour la maintenance (c est une Arch avec un installeur et quelques scripts). Pour CachyOS, c est de l optimization aux petits oignons mais il faut avoir envie de "mettre les mains dans le moteur" de temps en temps, donc prise de choux si tu ne sais pas faire.
I was fully convinced to use Garuda on my new rig with high-end specs, but some folks talked me out of it, calling that distro a problematic, half-assed trash, I've installed Mint some time ago on my dad's old laptop, cuz he complained how Win8 was esentially unusable, but Mint honestly wasn't as fast as I'd like, and it frequently had issues with basic things (like headphones). I am genuinely confused what to get to have utility as close to Win 10 as possible, mostly refering to high-end, high-performance hardware. Knowing what's coming with Win11 and possibly later, I'm gonna have to hop sooner or later, and I want to do it for good (instead of screwing with dozen different distros)
@@Andriej69 Bazzite isn't new new, but it's been around for a little bit. 2022 was when it was first released. To give an idea of how impressed i am with it. I've converted my main gaming PC over to it. I've set up a truenas server instead of windows server for shared folders and raid backup. I run a single windows install on a 500gb ssd in the rare cases i do need windows (that isn't running in vm) I've been a windows user since my childhood mainly because of gaming. I've used linux in the past and have administered linux servers, but never really used it for a desktop seriously. Bazzite changed that for me.
@@tystin_gaming Well, that still means you've got a lot more experience than me - I've only installed Mint on my dad's old laptop that initially came with Win 8
You are not correct for some games, for other you are. Gaming is very subjective to what your hardware is and what type of game it is. For instance you said that Debian is not very good for gaming, but if you have every played BeamNG Drive (at least with an AMD GPU) you would be wrong to use any rolling distro or even Fedora based. The problem is that something in the Mesa is broken for Vulkan in that game. For instance on Arch, EndeavourOS, CachyOS, Fedora, Nobara, etc if you run the Vulkan mode of the game it flickers, badly. If you force a 60fps it flickers occasionally but you are now locked to 60fps max. On Debian you can still play the Vulkan mode, which is about 90fps with all the same settings, which Arch, Fedora, etc used to get before an update. Every game I have played has been buttery smooth on Debian and I cannot tell the difference after leaving Arch. My frametimes according to mangohud are pretty much the same with some games going towards Debian and others going towards Arch, but the average is about the same. Both have very little spikes and are playing smooth. I have an AMD 5900x CPU and a AMD RX6700XT GPU with 32g RAM. I cannot test the difference on nVidia as I do not have one to swap out too, so I cannot test to see if its a GPU driver issue that is causing the problem on Arch, Fedora, etc. I do miss a lot of things about Arch based, since 98% of the software I use on Debian is flatpak not native, so some functionality is a little different when app need to talk to each other. For instance if I used Openshot and do a animated title it is supposed to run Blender, but since both are flatpaks they dont really see each other.
Linux Mint daily user here - I am noob since this is something I tried Linux on and no matter what I am always back to it XD I am a bit worried that maybe it is because of the Cinnamon... I really do not find other DE really that interesting for me :/ I will probably try now that CachyOS - since honestly... I never heared of it before your video o.O Back to Mint I have to say that yes, Mint is amazing for gaming, but there are some things missing... Like: - no preisntalled steam - no latest mesa - no latest Kernel... YES I do know that now they released this "EDGE" branch with 6.5.0 instead of 5.15.0 but believe me, many peoples do not find that I myself run an Arc GPU (A770) and when I was building an PC based on it, there was still no EDGE version - and believe me that using "non-fully supported" GPU to set up Mint was a hellhole xd
Steam shouldn't come pre-installed on any OS haha But it's ready for one-click installation on Mint, which is very important to me. I stay on Mint because I use my computer for work, so it's important to have stability. For gaming, I can easily get the latest Mesa via PPA and install the latest kernel with the Ubuntu Mainline Kernel. This gives me stability, broad community support, and optimized gaming performance. Mint 💙
well@@marcelorauber_ i can agree with Steam - but at least get the other things working :D i would also... any "best for gaming" distro should have both mangohud and Goverlay working out of the box - and Gamemode mint has feral gamemode added by default and mangohud can be added easly but goverlay does not work that easly there :/
I agree it's unnecessary. I prefer flatpak version of steam because it can containerized random 'closed source' executables from potentially doing anything nasty on your system. similarly on windows I have steam, epic, etc running inside sandboxie. . @@marcelorauber_
Quite suprise tbh to see Linux content creator to put EndeavourOS as the best for gaming. That's my daily driver and a red light to my distro hopping. I almost want to try Debian but your explaination actually prevent me from trying it, as I also own an Nvidia GPU (1050ti). And I might wanna try CachyOS after watching your 60 days review on it (CachyOS kernel looks promising though). Edit : I can just add CachyOS's repo and install CachyOS Kernel Manager into EndeavourOS without having to actuatlly install CachyOS.
Salut AIRMAX, i have few ideas of distro that you can test. But before that, i want to tell you that i love the 30 days testing : for me you can experiment truly the distribution. Some distro to test: - Slackware Linux - Kaos - PCLinuxOS Thx and GL HF
Gentoo can now be installed directly from binaries. Pretty easy to do. Still, noob linux gamers should start on something else such as Mint, Pop OS, or Nobara.
I have been considering switching from Majaro to EndeavorOS, but I've seen Majaro's better for performance in games compared to other Arch based distros, so I've held off. If it really isn't an issue on high end hardware, I'll go for it, because the hardware used in the tests wasn't the best. I'll have to consider CachyOS as well.
Ubuntu is definitely a hella no for me too, for obvious reasons. Ever since Canonnical went Dr. Evil with snaps (and their software store running on proprietary software), Ubuntu "Pro" edition and Microsoft sycophantry. There's also rumors of data collection on your pc that goes back to Cannonical.
Garuda gets the award as the ugliest linux distribution. Mint damn it, no, cinnamon is a return to the year 98, besides it is unclear why it is higher than ubuntu, both are based on Gnome. Nobara is the first in games everywhere according to tests, I agree about convenience, it would be better if Arch served as the basis
Great video! I migrated to EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma from Windows 11 last summer full time and I've been very happy with it, aside from a couple of important learning experiences. That said I had previous experience playing with Arch and Manjaro on secondary machines prior. Can only agree that EOS is great for those starting out with Linux who like the look of what Arch has to offer.
From somebody migrating from Windows and trying Linux for the first time there is a parameter that is very important: consistency. Windows users don't want to acknowledge the OS, they want to forget about it's existence. Like when you sit down to eat dinner, you don't really think about the table you're eating on, you just set your plate down and start eating. Of the distros listed Mint is the best, and only, example of an OS that completely gets out of the way of the user allowing them to simply do what they want. Obviously not completely, this is where Windows shines in it's ability to, essentially, do everything for you.
I mention Windows refugees simply because this is going to be the biggest influx of users soon. Microsoft is making decisions that even the normies can't ignore anymore. The last straw, I believe, will be when MS finally adds the subscription model they've been wanting to include since around Windows 8. The replacement OS needn't be visually similar to Windows, it just needs to get out of the way of the programs the users want to run. Mint does this better than any other distro I've seen in Linux.
It's got its limitations, but a non-power user would, most likely, never notice those. If it can run games, an internet browser, and allow for easy file navigation (something Linux people don't seem to realize is very important to normies) then it wins. That last bit is key, so many people try Linux distros out and leave simply because they couldn't figure out the folder navigation to find where they saved that pdf document they wanted to e-mail. It sounds silly, but it's part of that whole "get out of the way" need the average person requires of an operating system.
This right here. As a Windows user considering moving to Linux for precisely the reasons outlined in your comment, I don't care that much about customizability and console commands as long as I don't have familiar consistency there. I also don't want something 'new' or challenging. Not in my operating system that I have to use daily for work.
Gaming, an internet browser, and file navigation is 90% of all that I ever use on Windows, and I don't need much else. I tested Mint today and have to say - pretty impressed. However, I did have to customize some stuff, install flatpaks, and look up console commands online for seemingly basic things like installing Slack. I'm pretty sure it's because I had no idea what I was doing.
I'll keep testing for the coming weeks and I'm confident I'll be able to fully move to Mint by the year's end. Gaming will be a big one, though I'm not a fan of games running on anti-cheat, so Proton + Lutris should do the trick, hopefully.
I did notice that most Linux guides online assumed knowledge that I simply didn't possess. Flatpaks here, repositories there, sudo over there, and so on. All relatively simple stuff that you only learn once, more or less. But still, the info isn't that accessible to a newcomer.
Fuck Microsoft to the moon, though.
I've used both cachyos for a month now and mint for 2 months before that,(migrated because of AUR). I do feel cachyos get's out of the way just like mint does you know, no issues faced, although battery life was somewhat more on mint
Just switched to mint Linux 2 days ago and have been binging your content. Thanks for the help and excited to continue learning more about Linux
I recently got on MINT and have been binge watching Linux videos. Yours are absolutely the best. Love the honesty and great tutorials.
I'm using garuda, the bloat is not a problem for me on linux because programs seams to take less disk space and when you don't use them they don't execute themselves at the boot or in the start menu or things like that.
And all preinstalled packages are good programs which has an utility, it's not candy crush 😂.
The main reason which take me on garuda is the snapper, I just came from windows, I used Ubuntu 16 during my studies and the thing I learned on linux is : when you are trying to install big things like Nvidia drivers, new DE, WIP packages etc. Your distro break.
For me the worst part of garuda is the dragonised kde which looks like a bad night club. And I had to figure out how to modify everything, has fairly new linux user was a bit a pain.
Anyway good video, I really enjoyed it because I learned a lot about every distro in a 29mins video, the subject was kind of obscure before for me.
I'm also a new user and tried nobara, bazzite and Garuda so far and Chimera OS is currently installing.
From it's design (I love that "night club" design!) and speed I really liked Garuda the best! Just encountering so many issues and driver conflicts from the beginning, I deinstalled it for now in search of something more easy to use, and more stable.
Had conflicts between the needed "pulseaudio" and the other package with "...wire", and needed parts of both, but they didn't like each other... At that point also my wifi connection didn't work anymore at all...
Also only made it to connect my Legion Go controllers (left and right part) one by one, but they weren't recognized as a full Xbox controller like under Windows...
Bazzite for that so far is really great! Direct Steam Big Picture implementation, and many great features with side menu like on steam OS (frame limiter, Basic TDP settings, unluckily only going to 15 Watts and would need up to 30/35 Watts for my Lenovo Legion Go I'm running it on) but an easy switch to the Gaming optimized Fedora system running besides/behind it. The controller parts (left and right together) was recognized directly and worked from the first beginning in Steam (probably also with other launchers, but still need to try it out.
With Nobara I had controller issues too and therefore didn't try it any further.
Currently I'm installing Chimera which seems to be the mostly customized one of them all for gaming... Directly recognized my Legion Go during the installation! (Bazzite too if I recall right, but only had half baked settings fitting for my Legion Go, and I cant good TPU control software on linux...)
When I installed Garuda for the second time, it showed something like BlackArch keyring not found😢
That's why Garuda is the best one, all the pre-installed stuff is actually useful
I'm using Garuda KDE lite version and installed much of their apps later. I do like the default looks of KDE. Endeavouros broke much of my games 2 days ago. Went to Nobara and Nobara broke my sound in games. After one hour of debugging this and my lack of patience went to the roof I went for Garuda KDE lite. Installed steam and there we go. Flawless gaming.
If Garuda fails me I will go to OpenSuse TW.
I went with Garuda XFCE to get away from the eye candy of the dragonized version. Currently looking into Endeavor, but I love that Garuda has all gaming things ready to install.
Love the disclaimer that you are not a dev or someone who wants to tinker under the hood of the distro and just wants to do useful work or gaming.
I watched many of your videos but this is the one! I switched from Windows to Linux Mint Edge and thank to your tips from another video, games run awesome! Merci Beaucoup mon Ami!
Wow so early. I personally use EndeavourOs mainly. With fedora and pop os on two secondary drivea
I wish endeavors would work smoothly for me but it is always something going on where I have to restart my desktop multiple times a day.
I just installed Endeavor on a laptop last night to test. What issues have you had that I can look out for?
I've been using Mint as a QA game tester for about 5 years. Works great.
"Adversaire.. très fort, sur le terrain" 😂
Blague à part, très bonne vidéo, merci à toi 🫶
More videos on Cachy would be awesome.
Agreed
@@avalagum7957 very agreed 😉👍👍
I'm on Manjaro and Ive been very happy with it for the last 2 years +. Garuda has so far been my 2nd favourite. Im also very interested in CachyOS and Ive been playing around with Tumbleweed but I havnt done any gaming on it. Thanks for video.
Manjaro Gnome seems to be way more stable then Manjaro KDE.
@@mr.mastermind4840 Gnome is less buggy verall compared with KDE but lacks some really important features such as fractional scaling an d KDE is more performant. But I cant use Gnome without a bunch of addons as I find it totally counter intuitive. And on a rolling realease distro running Gnome with a bunch of addons is a bad idea.
keep it up your content wonderful...all the best from UAE
Thank you, I will!
I downloaded Garuda with all the gaming programs pre-installed after not knowing how to build programs on kubuntu, and after making the desktop look like normal KDE I've been very happy with it so far.
Thanks for giving us a lowdown on some the major distros for gaming or content creation. But, for Ubuntu 24.04 LTS is coming out in a few days from now and the new Gnome 46 (I believe has VRR (Variable Refresh Rate)) but then your other point snap. Thanks for the tips about CachyOS and Endeavour. About a year ago I installed Ubuntu 23.04 and it didn't work too well; so I went back to Win11 for my daily driver. But I like some things about Linux. Win11 gave may better fps stability and a less hot computer; Ubuntu ran hotter.
I just wanna hear you say, "UWAAAUGH!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!" 🤣
Thanks for the video. With support for Win10 ending and the nightmare of Win11 and Copilot recording EVERYTHING, I'm finally looking into Linux hoping it can truly replace Windows.
EndeavourOS and CachyOS ...... Will both be good for music production? Big Hug from Portugal
They should be fine. CachyOS provide a RT kernel if you are into music, it might help with the latency.
@@A1RM4X i use opensuse tumbleweed with geekos daw about 2 years and half and yes I'm in music, I'm a professional musician ✌🙏
I think Garuda non gaming edition is not any more bloated than a lot of other distros. The Dragonized desktop for sure is loaded down with effects and other things but Garuda cinnamon is an excellent choice for those who want the power of garuda with a simple and stable desktop.
I decided to ditch windows due the end of support of win10, and then I switched to win11, I think is all a buggy mess, just to find out the new spyware that MS is going to introduce (Recall), and is really pushing the people to change their OS
I'm using nobara on my nvidia notebook and it was the best experience i ever had with linux (only pop_os was so good with dual gpu, but is too outdated now)
I think i will try cachy, i always wanted to use an arch based distro but the setup is too much for me
I'm about to try cachy and nobara tbh
@@notbdour Your going to love Nobara, running it on my main PC and I love it
Tried Nobara on 2 laptops with hybrid GPU setup. Never worked for me. Tried multiple times
@@mr.mastermind4840 I had to go into bios and turn off intergrated graphics to get my laptop to work properly its annoying but it worked after
@@mr.mastermind4840 did you download the right iso?
also some old nvidia gpus will not work, you need gtx 10xx or newer if i'm not wrong
Excellent. En libriste qui ne suit pas de près les évolutions, c'est parfait pour se mettre à jour sur le paysage actuel des distros gaming.
Par rapport aux autres recherches que j'avais faites, il manquerait juste Pop!Os !
Tu as prévu d'en faire un challenge un jour ?
Si c'est pas déjà fait : ruclips.net/video/TMHZj7AU2_Q/видео.html
There is an issue with the definition of tier lists on virtually all videos grading Linux distros, defining tiers should be based on how effective X is for Y use case. At least you explained your use case, it is important to highlight there are no perfect distros for all use cases. Just a thing I think you can highlight better in a future video. Good job.
From what I found from learning how to run Linux and from, i talked to people on Discord is that .exe is best, and Windows 10 is also the best.
All Linux products are inferior in time spent trying to get things working, I really want to get into Linux more, but the more I learn, the more it seems to be wasting time.
What about popOS ?? Will you try it this year ?
PopOS is so outdated currently most tier lists dont have it. BUT this year there is a lot of things happening with it so im excited for whats to come!
he did!
@@dworfkin5434 Thank dude
I like Windows 10 and Gentoo, and also Void and OpenBSD, they are so different and good in their own ways.
I have been mostly using SuSE but I wonder if Mint might be better. On the one hand Mint seems to be even easier to install, but Cinnamon UI and Ubuntu low level system are kinda keeping me from that. I know SuSE are also doing in some parts their own thing, but I like YaST most of the time better than other setup tools. I used to use Leap, but I guess, I should take a jump of faith going for Tumbleweed.
Where would you rate LMDE?
great video. and a question from my side. for linux mint. there is an ubuntu based version and a debian based version available. but what version do you talk about in your video? my wild guess is debian based because kde > gnome for gaming. right? :D
I am talking about the ubuntu version in this video. Mint is delivered with Cinnamon, so it has no link with KDE or GNOME for this ranking.
@@A1RM4X thank you for the clarification! :)
Arch gives me a lot of headache, but I love this distro.
Yeah, Arch is this kind of OS that you hate and love at the same time for having to spend a lot of time learning about it and researching answers to even smallest problems
cool vid ! I discovered new distros like EndeavourOS and grauda .I will test right away. thx a lot
Nice! I am planning to make an updated version in the coming weeks. Stay tuned
@@A1RM4X oh yeahj
Nice video. Thanks. Question - when given a choice which desktop did you use - KDE, GNOME, etc.?
DE is not very miportant, you should have the close to the same results with all of them.
KDE. Infinitely more customization.
I'm EndeavourOS user for 2 years now, but CashyOS surprised me a lot. I guess I found my new daily driver for the next few months.
Great video. Can you test BigLinux and Regata OS?
Hello, j'aime les tiers liste pour les débutant et indécis comme moi. Mais qu'en est-il de Pop OS basé sur Ubuntu mais qui viendra avec l'environnement COSMIC prochainement? Il y a aussi Bazzite OS meilleure ou pareil que Nobara? Sans bloatware? Merci encore pour tes avis
Never used endeavouros but i'm curious, what comes with it except for DE? Cause like i don't see the appeal when you can just archinstall and choose a DE and i think you can even choose among a bunch of apps to install by default like browser and stuff
You can choose what DE you want while installing endeavouros, but you would need to be connected to the internet. KDE plasma is default if you aren't connected to the internet
I can recommend Nobara Linux.
Tumbleweed has been the best linux/linux gaming experience ive had & Im also on the gnome DE & it has changed me like using cinnamon/KDE feels so weird now lol
Im pretty surprised about nobara i installed it a few days ago. Gpu detection was perfect. Docker desktop installation was simple becouse nobara is basicly fedora with some scripts. Kvm working with gpu passtrough and you have both nobara and fedora repos . And i never had such a simple davinci resolve installation, just download run the installer and afterwords execute the nobara Script for dependencies. Only Thing is that the calamares installer is a bad choice, becouse dual boot dosnt work properly with Windows and you cant configure lvm. The Trick is to use the Windows efi Partition or install tripple boot with debian or openSUSE tumbleweed. I couldnt config the nobara grub2 to dual boot or boot at all just boot with supergrub
And great Video btw
Arch user here, some Nobara, my favorite for gaming, is Arch, add cachyos repo, add garuda repo, chaotic aur repo, and snag the enhancements for cpu from there. As for Garuda, the KDE dragonized gaming edition is extreme bloat, but the just KDE dragonized (non gaming edition) isnt really bloated imo, install it and add in the stuff post install you want.
What CPU enhancements are you referring to? I'm using Arch and everything seems to be working well, but I'm curious if there are any enhancements I may be missing.
garuda/performance-tweaks 2.2.0-1 [installed] cachyos/linux-cachyos-rt-bore(there are actually a lot of those that differ)"@@simhz2221
@@simhz2221 ^also curious
@@simhz2221 The CachyOS repos have CPU enhancements based on the supported CPU architecture version which are disabled for compatibility out of the box.
Although, your mileage may still vary because even if a CPU has the version it might not have some features. Their kernel also pulls stuff from linux-next, zen and clear linux.
You can add both to your existing Arch machine though.
Specify again? Your grabbing the repo from 3 distros and the cpu enhancements from which repo?
considering switching from win11
thanks for the information for the different versions of linux
You are welcome.
I think the Distro depends on the prefered DE, my personal favorit is Cinnamon, therefore I have started with Linux Mint (LMDE is too limited regarding recent Kernel / Mesa), with Mint it was possible upgrading to the latest Kernel & Mesa. Yesterday, I gave Fedora Cinnamon a try and was positive surprised, very good Cinnamon implementation, recent Kernel (6.7.3) and Mesa (23.3.5) and the gaming performance is very good (slightly better than Linux Mint). I am not a fan of "gaming" distros, as every distro is good for gaming (just a question of the packages), important is having the possibility of a recent Kermel & Mesa.
True that Mint allows easily to have latest kernel and mesa with PPA. I am on 6.7.3 because my Legion laptop needs patches for audio available from 6.7.1 only.
@@pitape1822 As of now, you can get Kernel 6.7.4 and Mesa 24.0.0 👍
Maybe try TuxedoOS?
I tried several distro's Ubuntu, Pop OS, Kubuntu, KDE Neon 2 Arch based ezarcher and Arco and Tumbleweed, but they all gave me update errors and that's why I settled on MX Linux Xfce because it's install it, set it up to my liking and start using it. MX just works. It's stable, installs in less than 3 minutes, it's quick and with Arc dark and Papirus dark looks good too. I don't game and don't do anything except email and browsing.
Brilliant unbias conclusion video, keep it up
Pacman is a like a Ninja of the package manager. Fast and efficient.
Can´t deny that.
Is just me or anyone else kde plasma 6 crashing when opening system monitor sidebar?
Have tried several distros (Manjaro, Fedora, EndeavorOS and Garuda) and in all of them get a lot of issues using OBS-Studio because of the browser principally :S that's why i'm searching for a distro that has good gaming configuration but also good for digital artists and content creators :S
What about gamer who also is a digital artist (Blender, inkscape, gimp, darktable, kdenlive, krita, and more) and streamer? i've tested endeavorOS and Garuda, but have been having trobules with the updates on OBS pretty frecuently, and in games, for some reason they run well at the beginning and after some updates, begin to lag :S (my principal reference is Brawlhalla).
@@SolidCapo Nobara
I wanna reuse old laptops for a minecraft (java) project with a lot of kids. Ypu once mentioned that you don't recommend cachyos for older pcs... What does come in your mind if our only purpose is to play minecraft without lag and squeeze preformance out of an older machine...
Where is Solus ? Fully agree on Endeavour and OpenSuse. Cachy is small project and a bit rough around the edges but good optimisations though. For me Nobara is the easiest to setup.
Merci pour ce travail exhaustif ! Bel english accent ! Merci je viens d'installer Catchy Os: super ! GG 🥇🥈🥉
I don't know what you are talking about. The accent makes much of it NOT UNDERSTANDABLE. He should learn English pronunciation better.
I tried to love Endeavor os, but I can't. I have problems with my audiointerface. It doesn't work and I can't fix it. My games are always open on the wrong monitor and that gave me a big headache. I will try some distros like cachy or some of the "almost the best" tear and hope that it will work fine for me.
CachyOS for the win
Tbh arch is just the installation process which is usually a one time thing. Slap a DE on it and should be as easy as just any other. Might be a good idea to install gamemode package as well
5 years on arch gaming works great but i messed lot think so reinstalled OS and switched to garuda dragonize its great distro runing like 4 months now isnt very bloated tou have all for gaming out the box but since i have R7 2700 im gonna switch to gentoo hyprland payed for whole cpu im gonna use it 😁
Why color red is "the best" and color green is "the worst"? I think I would have switched that around.. o)
Am am new to Linux land, cannot say much about the video content, sorry! o)
Thanks for the thoughts!
I unfortunately have to disagree on EndeavourOS. I have a MSI GS75 laptop with a RTX 2060. Tried this distro twice and had issues twice... First time, it was lagging for no reasons when moving the cursor. Second time, it was plain broken.
However, I have to agree about Garuda. It's a great beautiful distro, but feels way too bloated.
"If you install AUR On manjaro i would give around like 2 weeks to 1 month before it breaks depending on how abviously like AUR applications you install"
Well, i have bad news for you, i am an extensive AUR + Manjaro user, my installation is still alive since 2021 - 3 years and going.
Yes in those 3 years i had some really minor issues but nothing huge or something that can be qualified as "breaking the system".
And btw i use testing branch of arch :rofl:
Salut Airmax,
If you are still looking for Distro to test :
Tuxedo : Kubuntu without snap, with more recent KDE environment, but more stable than KDE Neon
Solus : stable rolling release gaming oriented
RegataOS : based on Tumbleweed, with homemade gaming launcher and other additions for an easier gaming experience
Thanks for the video, now, I have to try EndeavourOS. 😁
Nice! i agree with your ranking. maybe i would put debian little higher, but the rest is spot on.. i would really like the ranking of mx linux. that one is quite popular also..
I had a lot of trouble trying out Nobara39, which was disappointing. But I ended up installing Mint 21.3 on an older MSI C61 laptop and it went pretty much flawlessly except for, guess what, the Nvidia card. The laptop has a weird hardware setup that uses an Intel video for the HDMI port, and the Nvidia 710M runs the laptop itself. Mint reports them as Intel\Nvidia and I don't know if that means it's using both or what? Anyway, it runs flawlessly and fast for what I use it for. :)
could you try Holoiso and Bazzite pls ?
I'm between installing cachyOS Garuda or endeavour but I don't know wich one to choose, I want wobbly wimfows and the lowest input lag posible, anyone have any tips on wich to choose?
I´m new to Linux, but i have installed the 3 of them in my work laptop, the threeth of them are basically the same (Arch) but with more or less things added to be working "Out-of-the-box".
EndeavourOS is the most barebones distro, comes with a modified/patched kernel, and is just that, is a barebones arch but with performance improving done for you (remember, out of the box)
CachyOS is the middleground, comes with kernel improvings + some useful tools, and also the launcher/welcome has some direct options to install package managers or apps without getting into the terminal
Garuda is the most bulky but complete of them, some might say it comes "bloated" but forme is as barebones as cachy, it might be considered bloated because there is a dragonized gaming version which comes with a lot of gaming things (duh), also they come preconfigured for it. The bloathing perception also comes because Garuda apparently uses more ram than other archs distros, Garuda team says that is because that ram is being used to optimize the performance of the system because unused ram is pointless- OH Also, i dont remember if cachy has it too, but garuda has snapper tools so, if your system breaks you can restore a snap and get ereything working again.
If you´re used to Linux, EndevourOS is your best bet because just has the performance tweaks, you can customize it and add your preferred apps (and setting up them by yourself) at your looks. CachyOS if you´re familiarized with arch/command line, but you want some basic QOL apps/settings out of the box, with a convenient package manager included, and Garuda if you´re new and want the Arch experience without wanting to invest time into doing wiki research or touching the command line the less as possible.
Also, the Garuda "wobbling" is part of the theme, so you can download it and use it in any distro with KDE Desktop. As for performance, i felt Garuda kinda slow, it isn´t slow, just it feels like. Nobara has been the smoothest i´ve tested, but i want the Arch experience so for now i´m using CachyOS, the middleground of them, i might go with Garuda again, just because i like eagles.
EDIT: wording corrections
@@luismillan1541 thanks i ended up installing cachyos but i had to go back to windows for university stuff, but im going to dual boot into garuda when i have the time to install it, your answer is really complete btw, thanks a lot, im choosing garuda because of your comment
You forgott BazziteOS?
Check the publication date brother. Will do another one in 2 months with all the distributions I tested in between.
And now where will you put voix linux ?
What about Zorin OS?
and what about POPos ?
I have a laptop + external GPU GTX1660SUPER
Fedora, Mint, Nobara , Manjaro, MX Linux - don`t loading after install nvidia drivers
Ubuntu - works fine if install nvidia open drivers
So for me Ubuntu - HELL YEAH!!!
Salut A1RM4X ! Et NixOS ?
Yo! NixOS testée juste après le classement: ruclips.net/video/GgjBa9YU_No/видео.html
Ok donc avec un ryzen 5 7600, une 7800xt et 32 Go de ram je pourrais partir sur quoi ? Je suis un utilisateur avancé on va dire mais pas envie de me prendre le choux. Endeavour ? (j'ai testé Manjaro sur mon laptop pendant 3 ans) Catchy ? Mint (vanilla voire LMDE)?
Si Manjaro te convient je ne vois pas l interet de changer...
@@A1RM4X j'ai testé Manjaro mais pas sur mon pc fixe. Ma question concerne ma config pc fixe pour gaming.
Si Manjaro te convient je vois pas l interet de changer, que ce soit sur un laptop ou sur un fixe. Endeavour necessite un peu plus de connaissances pour la maintenance (c est une Arch avec un installeur et quelques scripts). Pour CachyOS, c est de l optimization aux petits oignons mais il faut avoir envie de "mettre les mains dans le moteur" de temps en temps, donc prise de choux si tu ne sais pas faire.
I was fully convinced to use Garuda on my new rig with high-end specs, but some folks talked me out of it, calling that distro a problematic, half-assed trash, I've installed Mint some time ago on my dad's old laptop, cuz he complained how Win8 was esentially unusable, but Mint honestly wasn't as fast as I'd like, and it frequently had issues with basic things (like headphones). I am genuinely confused what to get to have utility as close to Win 10 as possible, mostly refering to high-end, high-performance hardware. Knowing what's coming with Win11 and possibly later, I'm gonna have to hop sooner or later, and I want to do it for good (instead of screwing with dozen different distros)
Bazzite in my opinion is the best choice of a good look and stability.
@@tystin_gaming Is that ANOTHER new one?
@@Andriej69 Bazzite isn't new new, but it's been around for a little bit. 2022 was when it was first released.
To give an idea of how impressed i am with it. I've converted my main gaming PC over to it.
I've set up a truenas server instead of windows server for shared folders and raid backup.
I run a single windows install on a 500gb ssd in the rare cases i do need windows (that isn't running in vm)
I've been a windows user since my childhood mainly because of gaming. I've used linux in the past and have administered linux servers, but never really used it for a desktop seriously. Bazzite changed that for me.
@@tystin_gaming Well, that still means you've got a lot more experience than me - I've only installed Mint on my dad's old laptop that initially came with Win 8
You are not correct for some games, for other you are. Gaming is very subjective to what your hardware is and what type of game it is. For instance you said that Debian is not very good for gaming, but if you have every played BeamNG Drive (at least with an AMD GPU) you would be wrong to use any rolling distro or even Fedora based. The problem is that something in the Mesa is broken for Vulkan in that game. For instance on Arch, EndeavourOS, CachyOS, Fedora, Nobara, etc if you run the Vulkan mode of the game it flickers, badly. If you force a 60fps it flickers occasionally but you are now locked to 60fps max. On Debian you can still play the Vulkan mode, which is about 90fps with all the same settings, which Arch, Fedora, etc used to get before an update. Every game I have played has been buttery smooth on Debian and I cannot tell the difference after leaving Arch. My frametimes according to mangohud are pretty much the same with some games going towards Debian and others going towards Arch, but the average is about the same. Both have very little spikes and are playing smooth. I have an AMD 5900x CPU and a AMD RX6700XT GPU with 32g RAM. I cannot test the difference on nVidia as I do not have one to swap out too, so I cannot test to see if its a GPU driver issue that is causing the problem on Arch, Fedora, etc.
I do miss a lot of things about Arch based, since 98% of the software I use on Debian is flatpak not native, so some functionality is a little different when app need to talk to each other. For instance if I used Openshot and do a animated title it is supposed to run Blender, but since both are flatpaks they dont really see each other.
Linux Mint daily user here - I am noob since this is something I tried Linux on and no matter what I am always back to it XD
I am a bit worried that maybe it is because of the Cinnamon... I really do not find other DE really that interesting for me :/
I will probably try now that CachyOS - since honestly... I never heared of it before your video o.O
Back to Mint
I have to say that yes, Mint is amazing for gaming, but there are some things missing...
Like:
- no preisntalled steam
- no latest mesa
- no latest Kernel... YES I do know that now they released this "EDGE" branch with 6.5.0 instead of 5.15.0 but believe me, many peoples do not find that
I myself run an Arc GPU (A770) and when I was building an PC based on it, there was still no EDGE version - and believe me that using "non-fully supported" GPU to set up Mint was a hellhole xd
Steam shouldn't come pre-installed on any OS haha
But it's ready for one-click installation on Mint, which is very important to me.
I stay on Mint because I use my computer for work, so it's important to have stability. For gaming, I can easily get the latest Mesa via PPA and install the latest kernel with the Ubuntu Mainline Kernel. This gives me stability, broad community support, and optimized gaming performance. Mint 💙
well@@marcelorauber_ i can agree with Steam - but at least get the other things working :D
i would also... any "best for gaming" distro should have both mangohud and Goverlay working out of the box - and Gamemode
mint has feral gamemode added by default and mangohud can be added easly but goverlay does not work that easly there :/
I agree it's unnecessary. I prefer flatpak version of steam because it can containerized random 'closed source' executables from potentially doing anything nasty on your system. similarly on windows I have steam, epic, etc running inside sandboxie. . @@marcelorauber_
Quite suprise tbh to see Linux content creator to put EndeavourOS as the best for gaming. That's my daily driver and a red light to my distro hopping. I almost want to try Debian but your explaination actually prevent me from trying it, as I also own an Nvidia GPU (1050ti). And I might wanna try CachyOS after watching your 60 days review on it (CachyOS kernel looks promising though).
Edit : I can just add CachyOS's repo and install CachyOS Kernel Manager into EndeavourOS without having to actuatlly install CachyOS.
Salut AIRMAX,
i have few ideas of distro that you can test. But before that, i want to tell you that i love the 30 days testing : for me you can experiment truly the distribution.
Some distro to test:
- Slackware Linux
- Kaos
- PCLinuxOS
Thx and GL HF
Gentoo can now be installed directly from binaries. Pretty easy to do. Still, noob linux gamers should start on something else such as Mint, Pop OS, or Nobara.
cade o POP OS?
ruclips.net/video/3XmFk_0k2vg/видео.html
Ilove Deb. Daily drive MX. I just cant get bottles to work on my laptop with it.
I have been considering switching from Majaro to EndeavorOS, but I've seen Majaro's better for performance in games compared to other Arch based distros, so I've held off. If it really isn't an issue on high end hardware, I'll go for it, because the hardware used in the tests wasn't the best. I'll have to consider CachyOS as well.
Ubuntu is definitely a hella no for me too, for obvious reasons. Ever since Canonnical went Dr. Evil with snaps (and their software store running on proprietary software), Ubuntu "Pro" edition and Microsoft sycophantry. There's also rumors of data collection on your pc that goes back to Cannonical.
Can you please test Chimera OS?
ChimeraOS is nice, but as far as I know they still dont support NVIDIA.
Where is Pop OS? :-)
what about regata os this one also made for gaming
Cachy
or
Arco
=)
Where Void?
Garuda gets the award as the ugliest linux distribution. Mint damn it, no, cinnamon is a return to the year 98, besides it is unclear why it is higher than ubuntu, both are based on Gnome. Nobara is the first in games everywhere according to tests, I agree about convenience, it would be better if Arch served as the basis
Garuda is a weird one because it goes really stupid in some areas and some of the UI design is ATROCIOUS but it works I guess?
hm?! Arch on Rank 1,2 & 3? Debian on 2-5 😳 confusing
I have a lot of aur packages installed on manjaro, and it have never broken for me in two years. why do non-users keep repeating this nonsense?
what about Pop os?
ruclips.net/video/3XmFk_0k2vg/видео.html
I use Arch BTW
when you put suse and mint above fedora i couldnt listen.
opensuse tw S TIER
I recommend mint. I install my os to use not to fix it.
MX linux is best for gaming, idk how but good enough 👍
cacheyOS. Just do it. Dont think. Do it.
Try Pop OS please
Check this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLxStmGqGB-R7bP-5uwYU99RHFVr-diBYu
arch is the best!
nice, thank
For me PoP_OS better than Nobara. So it means PoP on the best tier! (^___^) I use system for gaming and sculpting in Blender