"They were already starting to dip their toes into diabolism with the lawyers of the family studying infernal law" Of course it was the lawyers! Lol. But seriously, thank you for making this. My dnd group is planning on running Hell's Vengance and this helps a lot with world building.
You skipped over one of the biggest reasons people were okay with Asmodeus, he's one of the most accepted evil gods in Avistan, mainly because he tends to at least pretend to play nice with the majority-worshiped pantheon
Yeah. For example of the Hellknight Orders, the Order of the Godclaw also worships the most lawful and warlike aspects of Iomedae, Irori, Abadar, and Torag along with Asmodeus.
Even Asmodeus will "play nice" with the other deities when a multiverse threat arises, looking at you Rovagug. I should also point out that Dispater veneration is often allowed by non-evil nations, as he is one of the most prominant patrons of marriages. He's very Hades-esque.
Man, so glad you made this! I looked up pathfinder lore a while back and couldn't find much. What I could was really meh. This was exactly the kind of lore I've been wishing for!!! Now, if I can find something this detailed about oracles of the dark tapestry I'll be set.
@@mordredoforkney6185 I could definitely see that. I'd just really love to see lore on the parts that feel more unique when compared to things like d&d. The countries and factions feel so rich but finding decent lore out-of-book is a challenge. Likely for the reason you mentioned ofc.
It's very difficult to spread that info outside of a dry lore book, especially since pathfinder isn't popular enough to get a ton of spin off media. That said, the 2 CRPGs and the comics are a good place to start if you want to take in the setting without having to study for it.
Awesome. I'm currently running Hells Vengeance at the moment, and this is a good refresher to save me from throwing my face into the sourcebooks every other week.
Thanks soo much for these videos. I love the Pathfinder world with all its heavy lore and these videos are the best crash course before I DM my players into new areas of the world.
Is everything okay with you guys? Something made me think of you guys today, and I realized that I hadn't heard from you guys in a while. I hope you are, and I hope to see another video from you again! These are great!
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
@@VentureCaptains That is excellent to hear! I've tried watching others that go over the lore, and they just cannot find a way to make it sound interesting like you guys do. I've seen too many great channels fade away, and I am truly happy that you will not be one of them!
Just found out your channel today with this vídeo searching for the Hellknights, as an option of playestyle for the upcoming title Wrath of the righteous. Please do one of the Hellknights orders. Subscribed
I think I mentioned this before on a prior video of yours, but I feel like it still fits in this one too. I'm actually playing a Hellknight in a game I'm in (or will be, and he'll be of the Torrent, which is perhaps the most good-oriented Hellknight faction), and I do enjoy learning more about the nation of Cheliax from where he is born, though he was born and grew up in Kintargo, which is at least somewhat distant from the capital and the Thrune's.
@@VentureCaptains i know I've seen your whole library lol. my character is attempting to take the throne, so this has helped with role playing some of intrigue and verbal duels lol
Once again, I loved the work you've put into this video! Great job! And you've covered most of my favorite countries now (Cheliax, Nidal, Ustalav and Geb)! Those political comments were spot on too! I laughed SOOOO hard! keep up the good work, and I can't wait to see what you cover next!!!
First of all, your speech is awesome( remind me for some reason of one character from Mistborn,Wayne if you know). 2nd thanks a lot, this is super useful and in short time. Also great maps-they help a lot.
Been there a few times for pfs 1e, it feels like your a criminal wherever you go no matter what you may be doing. Hiding from the guards is way more threatening when they are hellknights
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
I thought that slavery was commonplace in Cheliax even before Thrune took over; it is also quite common in other parts of Golarion (including most or all of northern Garund), although undoubtedly House Thrune made it even worse. In addition, a descent into Diabolism was probably well under way before then, and we know that Hellknights also got their start well before then.
Yeah, that's talked about in the Races episode that covers halflings, though they're the only one famous for it now. Hellknights are old too, but they are not diabolists.
@@VentureCaptains I know that Hellknights aren't (usually) Diabolists, but they are somewhat related. Diabolists worship Hell and serve it willingly, whereas Hellknights want to out-Hell Hell and make it serve them when they do anything with it at all. Asmodeus can be pleased with both, even when they compete with each other.
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
Possibly, we had a bit of a hiatus due to Christmas but we're back on track on. Research is almost done and we're gonna hopefully get the script started within the next week.
Dang, that's just pure evil. The people of Cheliax having no freewill is messed up. I wonder when we could expect another deity to decide that he or she wants to purge the nation of devil worship. Not a Pathfinder player yet, but imagine a lawful good or chaotic good deity deciding to outright destroy Cheliax and rebuild it so he or she could rule as a god king/ goddess queen.
Followers of Iomedae actually tried to do just that in the Hell's Vengeance adventure path. Unfortunately, that was a campaign for evil PCs, so it didn't work out for them.
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
Hey, are their any good videos concerning any slave trade in Golarion? I'm trying to flesh out a freed slave backstory and can't find any good information concerning this in any culture analysis. Maybe an escaped slave, I'm not sure yet. Can anyone tell me or point me in the right direction?
No videos that I know of. There's only like 2 channels that tackle Pathfinder lore. I can recommends some books and regions though. The main regions known for slave trade are: Katapesh [Black Markets], Cheliax (Halflings) [See bibliography on this video], Kaer Maga [City of Strangers], Nidal [Nidal, Land of Shadows], Qadira [Jewel of the East] and Absalom (Pre Tyrant's Grasp) [Guide to Absalom].
@@robertwilliams2520 A lot harder to get material about countries in the Tian continent! No adventures set in there at all, and little literature throughout the 10 years of PF 1E.
Pretty good, but I don't think abrogail is a true believer of asmodeus at all. In fact, it's actually quite the opposite which makes sense hell is quite misogynistic. Both house thrune and hell seem to believe that they are the ones actually in charge of cheliax.
If you're asking if we plan to cover the events of an adventure path, I can't say for certain we never will but it's unlikely. They can vary a lot depending on the players' actions and we want to avoid giving spoilers. Generally speaking, the aim of these videos is to provide background information that would help people to run said adventure and make their characters.
We do have a private discord that existed long before we started lorefinder, but it's just for organising games between friends. thank you for the offer.
@Venture-Captains Would you be up to make a pathfinder lore discord for your community? I would be quite willing to help manage it if you're into the idea. Overall I would like to help in the research of these videos so we can have more content like this out in the world.
Fricking hell, i thought mastering on this system would get things simpler, instead i have to worry about my players digging too much into this lore and pointing small inconsistencies. I JUST learned that they were helped by devils and not demons lol
"They were already starting to dip their toes into diabolism with the lawyers of the family studying infernal law"
Of course it was the lawyers! Lol. But seriously, thank you for making this. My dnd group is planning on running Hell's Vengance and this helps a lot with world building.
You skipped over one of the biggest reasons people were okay with Asmodeus, he's one of the most accepted evil gods in Avistan, mainly because he tends to at least pretend to play nice with the majority-worshiped pantheon
And also because dealing with the intricacies of law and politics is pretty much needed in the entirety of Golarion.
He's tricky, not a liar
Yeah. For example of the Hellknight Orders, the Order of the Godclaw also worships the most lawful and warlike aspects of Iomedae, Irori, Abadar, and Torag along with Asmodeus.
Even Asmodeus will "play nice" with the other deities when a multiverse threat arises, looking at you Rovagug.
I should also point out that Dispater veneration is often allowed by non-evil nations, as he is one of the most prominant patrons of marriages. He's very Hades-esque.
Man, so glad you made this! I looked up pathfinder lore a while back and couldn't find much. What I could was really meh. This was exactly the kind of lore I've been wishing for!!! Now, if I can find something this detailed about oracles of the dark tapestry I'll be set.
People overlook pathfinders lore way too often, it's full of backstory. It just seems to be criticized mostly for being a "clusterfuck setting".
@@mordredoforkney6185 I could definitely see that. I'd just really love to see lore on the parts that feel more unique when compared to things like d&d. The countries and factions feel so rich but finding decent lore out-of-book is a challenge. Likely for the reason you mentioned ofc.
It's very difficult to spread that info outside of a dry lore book, especially since pathfinder isn't popular enough to get a ton of spin off media. That said, the 2 CRPGs and the comics are a good place to start if you want to take in the setting without having to study for it.
Perfect timing! I was just watching the channel this entire week!
Me too!
Her Infernal Majestrix is pleased
I missed your videos, it feels like ages, but that makes the wait all the more worth it.
Great job covering the history. Excellent delivery! Really enjoyed listening to this. Thanks!
Awesome. I'm currently running Hells Vengeance at the moment, and this is a good refresher to save me from throwing my face into the sourcebooks every other week.
Thanks soo much for these videos. I love the Pathfinder world with all its heavy lore and these videos are the best crash course before I DM my players into new areas of the world.
Your videos are SO helpful. I'm getting ready to GM and it's great to get the lore verbally rather than pore over the books.
This was very useful as background information for my Curse of the Crimson throne play through, thanks!
Sounds like just the place to start reading from the Necronomicon. I think even Devils shit their pants when the Elder Mythos get involved.
God, I love this series. Can't wait for more!
Is everything okay with you guys? Something made me think of you guys today, and I realized that I hadn't heard from you guys in a while. I hope you are, and I hope to see another video from you again! These are great!
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
@@VentureCaptains That is excellent to hear! I've tried watching others that go over the lore, and they just cannot find a way to make it sound interesting like you guys do. I've seen too many great channels fade away, and I am truly happy that you will not be one of them!
I can't wait for a video about Nidal, one of the most interesting countries in golarion
Just found out your channel today with this vídeo searching for the Hellknights, as an option of playestyle for the upcoming title Wrath of the righteous.
Please do one of the Hellknights orders.
Subscribed
I love this series, I look forward to the next episode around April 2021!
Looking to GM Hell's Rebels, this was immensely helpful!
I think I mentioned this before on a prior video of yours, but I feel like it still fits in this one too. I'm actually playing a Hellknight in a game I'm in (or will be, and he'll be of the Torrent, which is perhaps the most good-oriented Hellknight faction), and I do enjoy learning more about the nation of Cheliax from where he is born, though he was born and grew up in Kintargo, which is at least somewhat distant from the capital and the Thrune's.
There's a lot of nice cities in Cheliax that haven't accepted the diabolic status quo. The further away from Egorian, the better.
this is a perfect reference to my curse of the crimson throne campaign. hell yeah
We have an older video that covers Korvosa in some detail. That one would be even more helpful.
@@VentureCaptains i know I've seen your whole library lol. my character is attempting to take the throne, so this has helped with role playing some of intrigue and verbal duels lol
Once again, I loved the work you've put into this video! Great job! And you've covered most of my favorite countries now (Cheliax, Nidal, Ustalav and Geb)! Those political comments were spot on too! I laughed SOOOO hard! keep up the good work, and I can't wait to see what you cover next!!!
First of all, your speech is awesome( remind me for some reason of one character from Mistborn,Wayne if you know).
2nd thanks a lot, this is super useful and in short time. Also great maps-they help a lot.
Been there a few times for pfs 1e, it feels like your a criminal wherever you go no matter what you may be doing. Hiding from the guards is way more threatening when they are hellknights
I can't hardly wait for thw next one
Here's hoping everything is cool with the channel. Always look forward to new vids
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
@@VentureCaptains oh awesome! Take as much time as you guys need. Hope everything behind scenes is ok
Crazy stuff, I was just thinking about making a character with origins in Cheliax and this appears!
I was just watching a bunch of your videos yesterday
I thought that slavery was commonplace in Cheliax even before Thrune took over; it is also quite common in other parts of Golarion (including most or all of northern Garund), although undoubtedly House Thrune made it even worse. In addition, a descent into Diabolism was probably well under way before then, and we know that Hellknights also got their start well before then.
Yeah, that's talked about in the Races episode that covers halflings, though they're the only one famous for it now. Hellknights are old too, but they are not diabolists.
@@VentureCaptains I know that Hellknights aren't (usually) Diabolists, but they are somewhat related. Diabolists worship Hell and serve it willingly, whereas Hellknights want to out-Hell Hell and make it serve them when they do anything with it at all. Asmodeus can be pleased with both, even when they compete with each other.
I am in need of another video... I know all the others by heart now.
Working on one at the moment. Almost done with research, then comes the script.
OMG! A NEW EPISODE!!!!
i forget that it has finally been 3 months since the last video. thanks i have the notificacion bell
Lol "their running mate was Satan" *cue Kamala Cackle
Very informative.
Yes! Another video!
Yes. That is all
I mis you guys so much
I'm actually going a play a campaign that takes place in Chelliax soon. This video was well timed
The best nation in the setting. The setting will improve greatly if Cheliax can take center stage.
I miss you
My favorite realm in Pathfinder next to Galt and Andoran.
Galt? Have you done much with Galt? I love the place but haven't done much of anything with it yet.
Nice your back
Pffff... JUST SO COOOL
Wooptie doo! NICE!
Asmodeus did nothing wrong.
pro maninho que legendou em pt, eu te amo
I'll have you know, as a Cheliax and House Thrune loyalist (1st ed), this video had been reported for heresy and high treason.
I'd say I can live with that, but that might not be strictly true.
Great video, don't really wanna say much but the algorithm is watching, so here you silly git show me more of this stuff
Every bit helps!
You forgot the most important element of Cheliax, Chelli Steve
No new videos? :(
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
neat
My inquisitor is smiling about this video
Based on what looks like a 3 month upload schedule, would we happen to be close to another video soon?
Possibly, we had a bit of a hiatus due to Christmas but we're back on track on. Research is almost done and we're gonna hopefully get the script started within the next week.
I'm DMing a adventure in Cheliax right now.
Tell us about it! Paizo or original?
Kneel to the god of law! Hail Asmodeus.
Suffer not the devil! Westcown rebels forever!
Dang, that's just pure evil. The people of Cheliax having no freewill is messed up. I wonder when we could expect another deity to decide that he or she wants to purge the nation of devil worship.
Not a Pathfinder player yet, but imagine a lawful good or chaotic good deity deciding to outright destroy Cheliax and rebuild it so he or she could rule as a god king/ goddess queen.
Followers of Iomedae actually tried to do just that in the Hell's Vengeance adventure path. Unfortunately, that was a campaign for evil PCs, so it didn't work out for them.
Is this still an active channel? I hope so because I've really enjoyed thier content
Sorry about the radio silence, there's been a lot happening behind the scenes. the good news is that the next episode is being edited together right now, (it's on my second monitor as I type this) So the wait should hopefully not be too much longer.
@@VentureCaptains Good news indeed, I look forward to it
Hey, are their any good videos concerning any slave trade in Golarion? I'm trying to flesh out a freed slave backstory and can't find any good information concerning this in any culture analysis. Maybe an escaped slave, I'm not sure yet.
Can anyone tell me or point me in the right direction?
No videos that I know of. There's only like 2 channels that tackle Pathfinder lore. I can recommends some books and regions though. The main regions known for slave trade are: Katapesh [Black Markets], Cheliax (Halflings) [See bibliography on this video], Kaer Maga [City of Strangers], Nidal [Nidal, Land of Shadows], Qadira [Jewel of the East] and Absalom (Pre Tyrant's Grasp) [Guide to Absalom].
@@VentureCaptains
Cool. Thanks.
I was learning about Kaoling and the Hobgoblin slavers there too.
@@robertwilliams2520 A lot harder to get material about countries in the Tian continent! No adventures set in there at all, and little literature throughout the 10 years of PF 1E.
Pretty good, but I don't think abrogail is a true believer of asmodeus at all. In fact, it's actually quite the opposite which makes sense hell is quite misogynistic. Both house thrune and hell seem to believe that they are the ones actually in charge of cheliax.
Hi there! Question: do you will ever bring to the channel the story of pre-made campaing, such as Ruin Lords or so on? That would be super cool!
If you're asking if we plan to cover the events of an adventure path, I can't say for certain we never will but it's unlikely. They can vary a lot depending on the players' actions and we want to avoid giving spoilers.
Generally speaking, the aim of these videos is to provide background information that would help people to run said adventure and make their characters.
@@VentureCaptains i was thinking more of covering just the main story/lore of adventure path such as Rune Lords
Is this a reupload, because I vaguely remember watching an episode on Cheliax already... Am I just nuts?
We have talked about cheliax a bit in previous episodes (Like when we talked about Korvosa and Taldor), but this one is brand new!
The inquisition is definetly not taking a look at this comment section.
What they don't know, won't hurt us.
Hey y'all! Do you have Discord? We're starting a community of the Pathfinder content creators and we'd love for you to join us.
We do have a private discord that existed long before we started lorefinder, but it's just for organising games between friends. thank you for the offer.
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@Venture-Captains Would you be up to make a pathfinder lore discord for your community? I would be quite willing to help manage it if you're into the idea. Overall I would like to help in the research of these videos so we can have more content like this out in the world.
If you want to reach out to me in relation to this my discord is: Timberwolf24 (Kyle)#4903
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Fricking hell, i thought mastering on this system would get things simpler, instead i have to worry about my players digging too much into this lore and pointing small inconsistencies.
I JUST learned that they were helped by devils and not demons lol
United States of Cheliax