I think the reason Flying Kipper had the top part cropped was because there was something in the top of the frame for one shot that they wanted to remove, but accidentally cropped the top of the frame for a longer sequence than intended (which led to Henry's nighttime run, while still beautiful, not AS beautiful as in the original version)
just that one scene took place during the day, the rest of the episode took place during the night, and then the final scenes took place the next morning.
The reason for this change was probably retroactive continuity. A mix up where they thought it being day was the problem, since the scene leads into night, so they made it night. However, it was actually correct.
Yeah... you can tell who didn't actually watch the episodes. The dialogue percy has is talking about his driver seeing the ghost train "last night".....implying that it's the next morning in daylight. I am pretty sure that is also in the original story by Christopher Awdry....so there.
@@jsax4heart Actually it was a story in No.26 Tram Engines by Wilbert Awdrey. This and Wooly Bear were written because the publisher wouldn't publish a book without Thomas in it so he split it in half as he didn't want to introduce Mavis while he appeared because he wanted Toby to be the one she interacted with.
I used to use the Restored versions for my remakes because, well… it’s the better audio quality lol, regardless, this video was really good. Good job, Joey!
In the 80s and 90s TV's in homes were nearly all still cathode ray tube sets which began noticably curving away at the edges of the picture, with the set's plastic frame normally overlapping that area to mask it. This meant that many TV shows that survive from the 50s-90s recorded and broadcast a slightly larger picture than would have been seen at home by the viewers, and that VHS releases of the time (with less lines of picture information available to them anyway) would also not reveal this fact. It was only with DVD releases in the late 90s and beyond, plus modern screens that rendered the whole picture right to the very edge of the frame, that these shows suddenly appeared to veiwers to have a larger picture than they had seen before, and it is now very common on DVDs and streaming to see shots from older shows that have random bits of equipment poking into the edge of the frame, particularly boom mics in live action programmes, because at the time they made those shows they knew the offending bit of equipment invading the frame would not actually be seen by viewers anyway so they never bothered to either do a retake (which was costly and time -comsuming in that era) or edit it out in post. It's possible that many of the instances in the restored 'Thomas' of being more zoomed out, and of revealing bits of equipment, are actually down to this effect. Possibly the oddly zoomed in ones are over zealous attempts to remove the more egregious examples of invading equipment, the ones they thought that modern viewers were most likely to spot if they left them in.
Something tells me that when they were restoring rushes from old screen to rescanned hd, they probably couldn't rescan the original shots and only got to restore alternative shots.
I watched the restored versions with my daughter and saw Henry suddenly zoom out of shot…and the “watch out for the train” part and I never remembered them happening on my old VHS tapes that I’d watched to death…I had no idea they were added during the re-editing!
I also wonder why The Restored Version of Thomas Gets Tricked (USA Version of Thomas and Gordon) that was used for Sprout/Prime/Roku Channel with George Carlin's Narration had a brief snippet of Ringo Starr's Narration (In the scene of Thomas and Gordon arriving at Wellsworth, and Thomas getting on the Turntable), but it was somehow fixed for the Halloween DVD Release. It's also weird how many of George Carlin's Rare Narrations were found and somehow used in HQ for the Restored Versions.
I hear the reason a lot of alternate takes were used WAS due to film damage! Personally, I would've just showed the original episodes the way they were originally made. They weren't broken, no need to fix!
Bruh now i feel lied to my entire life, sone scenes like the first scene in ghost train being in the day make me feel weird, it feels like im missing an entire chunk of thomas footage.
I haven't seen your content in years, wow you've gotten a lot better (and your content was still some of the best TTTE content)! Keep it up! Also that restored outtake in coal made me mad
The restored versions are fine in my opinion, but I agree that they do have a few screw-ups (in some like Thomas & Gordon, Coal, No Joke for James, Buzz Buzz, Trust Thomas, One Good Turn, Woolly Bear, Old Iron, Percy & the Signal, Break Van and The Deputation for example).
My best guess behind the weird cropping in certain scenes is likely that it's not that the film is damaged, but that they used alternate takes that had the camera adjusted to a slightly different angle, not unlike the scenes that used takes containing bloopers.
I remember seeing a Color Correction in the Restored Version of A Scarf For Percy that made the early morning look like night, but maybe it was dawn. It was a bit too dark nontheless. I even remember seeing some Bloopers in the Restored Version of Trust Thomas, which showed the Camera nudging up and down in a couple of shots. There should be a Meme with those Bloopers, but with the scene from SpongeBob of Patrick working the Camera in Squidward's Talk Show, but with him, of course, nudging the Camera up and down, and saying, "Upsy Daysy, Downsy Wownsy" repeatedly.
Strangely Thomas’s official RUclips channels has these restored versions as well as Amazon Prime. Not sure if the Sprout airings have these restored episodes.
I think so, as the S3 airing I have seen don't have the harsh yellow colours of the originals. Funny thing though, on Roku and KetchupTV streaming sites, the "restored" S1 and S3 are used, however the 1998-2003 Masters of S2 with original footage of the episode but the S5 intro and credits are used, but only for the UK dub.
It’s kind of crazy that some the Thomas vhs tapes that were brought to dvd normally used the vhs masters of the episodes instead of the restored episodes until 2010.
I grew up watching the originals on VHS (yeah, I’m that old) and some of the editorial choices made on the remasters just didn’t make sense. Maybe they were trying to find better shots of the scene and were looking through the reels, perhaps without realising the lack of continuity, or they didn’t put the effort in because they seem to think that Thomas is purely for the young audience and they’re less likely to notice these things. But to us older fans, we noticed. And it was not good.
What about the different USA 🇺🇸 Restored Versions of Thomas and Percy's Christmas/Mountain Adventure? The Version that was probably aired on Sprout and is on Prime/Roku Channel had the Original Audio with the extra UK 🇬🇧 Scenes that was out of sync on the Christmas Adventures/Ultimate Christmas DVD/VHS Releases, and it was somehow fixed for the 2009 Holiday Express DVD along with Lionsgate's Reprint of Ultimate Christmas, but the Unrestored/Out of Sync Version is on Universal's DVD Reprint. Wonder what happened with that particular Episode's Restoration.
Never knew about these restored versions. They restored them all around 1998 for the VHS full series releases. These versions don't seem to have these issues.
Dieselton heat is trying to help us steam matches but end up causing a failure by telling everyone they're puff balls and teapot To help this damages but that backfired causing them to be mean to esteem telling everyone there are teapots and pop calls 0:09
This tent was meant to be helping steam inches but end up being failure by telling everyone they're trash and teapods and puff balls Actually killing lady in the process 2:51
@@JamesIsHere5 The restored have great quality in the episodes but most of the contains a lot of goofs and errors. For instances the cropping is terrible and some of the extra footages don't work. They even cut out scenes that were from the originals.
I couldn’t agree more man, spot on with your points I wish VHS players were more popular, let alone the original Thomas VHS, then we could escape the horrid remasters
@JohnnyRocker2050 ye deffo mate 😂 am still on the look for Some classic Thomas VHS tapes to Admire forever due to how special thomas is to me And I've recently come to terms with my secret and plan to make a video Exposing it soon that I am a Thomas fan even though I've never dared to before with all comments saying I'm a baby as I watch a kids show but now I realise, it's my life and I like what I like. I am a Thomas fan and that is who I am. The 16 year old Thomas fan
I would stick with the original masters but it would've been better if the can just use computers to fix everything so that the original version of the episodes will look better in the newer restored style. Look at The Three Stooges, that classic is remastered and it looks really great. Same thing with Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, Gumby, Universal Monsters and more. The colors on them are really perfect in a HD style and the audio sinking is in the perfect spots. If Hit Entertain wants to restored Thomas, they need to take lessons from Warner Bros, Universal, Sony Home Entertainment, Shout! Factory and the rest of the studios.
well, these are dated episodes, so they could've lost clips from not finding them, or to corruption, so they might have just had to use what they had and try to make it work with the bloopers.
For a show as popular as Thomas & Friends, they should have taken way better care of the film reels. Especially if they were ever thinking of re-editing a whole chunk of episodes.
Even jf the restored versions had their flaws, I think the fact Thomas got restored at all is amazing. It’s not as cultural as classic films, but it’s still impressive.
I have never liked the restored episodes. Of course they were more "HD" (?), always felt that original masters are more nostalgic in terms of color and quality. Thta feeling is lost in the restored.
yeaaaaahhhhh….All of these episodes need to be re-restored and re-edited with better faithfulness to the original versions. Edit: are these issues exclusive to seasons 1-3?
I only scratched the surface in this video, so if you want me to make a part 2, please like the video.
I remember wondering why you did not like the restored versions since it said that on your fandom description. Good thing this is becoming a video.
I always thought something was off whenever I watched Coal on RUclips. I knew the VHS version I watched years ago in school never had that one goof.
what happened to ur discord server
Yes
YES DEFINITELY
3:25
I KNEW IT!!
I knew it wasn't the Mandela effect, I did indeed see Thomas having a sleep face, I wondered why I remembered it like that
Same here man, that was how I found out about the existence of the restored versions 😂
I think the reason Flying Kipper had the top part cropped was because there was something in the top of the frame for one shot that they wanted to remove, but accidentally cropped the top of the frame for a longer sequence than intended (which led to Henry's nighttime run, while still beautiful, not AS beautiful as in the original version)
even if that is the case, that still means the people at hit doing the restoration were being incompetent.
4:36 - IT TOOK PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY?! Holy shit I've been lied to my whole life.
just that one scene took place during the day, the rest of the episode took place during the night, and then the final scenes took place the next morning.
The reason for this change was probably retroactive continuity. A mix up where they thought it being day was the problem, since the scene leads into night, so they made it night. However, it was actually correct.
Yeah... you can tell who didn't actually watch the episodes. The dialogue percy has is talking about his driver seeing the ghost train "last night".....implying that it's the next morning in daylight. I am pretty sure that is also in the original story by Christopher Awdry....so there.
@@jsax4heart Actually it was a story in No.26 Tram Engines by Wilbert Awdrey. This and Wooly Bear were written because the publisher wouldn't publish a book without Thomas in it so he split it in half as he didn't want to introduce Mavis while he appeared because he wanted Toby to be the one she interacted with.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT TOOK PLACE IN THE NIGHT A FEW YEARS AGO
4:32 probably because to make it scarier.
I've never knew the Percy telling the Ghost story scene in Ghost train took place in the day, and I never knew about the original masters
I saw the original master on my Best of Percy DVD.
@@BrendanBarney oh
I used to use the Restored versions for my remakes because, well… it’s the better audio quality lol, regardless, this video was really good. Good job, Joey!
This shows how lazy HiT really was when they made Seasons 8-16
The audio quality is better but the video has a lot of problems
Percy telling the scary ghost story at night kinda works better if you think about
In the 80s and 90s TV's in homes were nearly all still cathode ray tube sets which began noticably curving away at the edges of the picture, with the set's plastic frame normally overlapping that area to mask it. This meant that many TV shows that survive from the 50s-90s recorded and broadcast a slightly larger picture than would have been seen at home by the viewers, and that VHS releases of the time (with less lines of picture information available to them anyway) would also not reveal this fact. It was only with DVD releases in the late 90s and beyond, plus modern screens that rendered the whole picture right to the very edge of the frame, that these shows suddenly appeared to veiwers to have a larger picture than they had seen before, and it is now very common on DVDs and streaming to see shots from older shows that have random bits of equipment poking into the edge of the frame, particularly boom mics in live action programmes, because at the time they made those shows they knew the offending bit of equipment invading the frame would not actually be seen by viewers anyway so they never bothered to either do a retake (which was costly and time -comsuming in that era) or edit it out in post. It's possible that many of the instances in the restored 'Thomas' of being more zoomed out, and of revealing bits of equipment, are actually down to this effect. Possibly the oddly zoomed in ones are over zealous attempts to remove the more egregious examples of invading equipment, the ones they thought that modern viewers were most likely to spot if they left them in.
I'm glad you said this because I was gonna try and explain this, but you said it better than I could.
Something tells me that when they were restoring rushes from old screen to rescanned hd, they probably couldn't rescan the original shots and only got to restore alternative shots.
NGL, the original masters feel so cozy to me
Damn you’re completely right. Hit was smoking drugs when they re edited them especially Henry’s special coal
TBH I Cant Watch The Restored Episodes From Seasons 1,2,3 Because Of The Australian Broadcasting Copyright System 😔
I watched the restored versions with my daughter and saw Henry suddenly zoom out of shot…and the “watch out for the train” part and I never remembered them happening on my old VHS tapes that I’d watched to death…I had no idea they were added during the re-editing!
I also wonder why The Restored Version of Thomas Gets Tricked (USA Version of Thomas and Gordon) that was used for Sprout/Prime/Roku Channel with George Carlin's Narration had a brief snippet of Ringo Starr's Narration (In the scene of Thomas and Gordon arriving at Wellsworth, and Thomas getting on the Turntable), but it was somehow fixed for the Halloween DVD Release. It's also weird how many of George Carlin's Rare Narrations were found and somehow used in HQ for the Restored Versions.
Whoever was in charge of editing the restored versions of Thomas episodes sure did a piss-pour job.
damn straight
I hear the reason a lot of alternate takes were used WAS due to film damage! Personally, I would've just showed the original episodes the way they were originally made. They weren't broken, no need to fix!
Bruh now i feel lied to my entire life, sone scenes like the first scene in ghost train being in the day make me feel weird, it feels like im missing an entire chunk of thomas footage.
I have noticed the scene in Henry's special coal before.
I haven't seen your content in years, wow you've gotten a lot better (and your content was still some of the best TTTE content)! Keep it up! Also that restored outtake in coal made me mad
Bro I never knew about any of this and now I cant unsee it -
TAKE A SPIN NOW YOU'RE IN
James is my favourite Thomas Character
Gordon is my favorite character
2:29 RUN DONALD AND DOUGLAS
War of the worlds joke here
Donald and Douglas:AAAAAAaAAAAAAH
3:30 Yeah, I remember that scene being like that. I have the DVD version of S1 and S2.
The restored versions are fine in my opinion, but I agree that they do have a few screw-ups (in some like Thomas & Gordon, Coal, No Joke for James, Buzz Buzz, Trust Thomas, One Good Turn, Woolly Bear, Old Iron, Percy & the Signal, Break Van and The Deputation for example).
Dude, most of the footage they use isn’t even from the actual episode
Speaking as a 21 year old fan, I never knew about these things so this really made my sunday more intresting! Cheers!
4:40 honestly this looks better
I’m liking the new background style it looks really nice.
My best guess behind the weird cropping in certain scenes is likely that it's not that the film is damaged, but that they used alternate takes that had the camera adjusted to a slightly different angle, not unlike the scenes that used takes containing bloopers.
thank you someone says about these crappy restored ones, there an insult to the original editors and production classic thomas deserves better
0:40 if you know, YOU KNOW
Petition to get it re-restored.
if they made a 4k or blu ray release i would instantly buy it
4:09 *burp*
💀
Okay, who’s willing to make a fixed restored version of Seasons 1-3? Anyone?
I think the episodes they restored were unaired unfinished versions.
...no?
I remember seeing a Color Correction in the Restored Version of A Scarf For Percy that made the early morning look like night, but maybe it was dawn. It was a bit too dark nontheless. I even remember seeing some Bloopers in the Restored Version of Trust Thomas, which showed the Camera nudging up and down in a couple of shots. There should be a Meme with those Bloopers, but with the scene from SpongeBob of Patrick working the Camera in Squidward's Talk Show, but with him, of course, nudging the Camera up and down, and saying, "Upsy Daysy, Downsy Wownsy" repeatedly.
3:28 Don't get me started.
I have no issue with the Ghost Train changes.
Neither do I (at least with the visuals)
The Star Wars special editions of Thomas
YES exactly. Perfect analogy.
Lol
for some reason i’ve always watched restored episodes and some things (like the beggining of Ghost Train taking place at day) absolutely blown me away
2:32 i think that is a stand for all of the studio lights and cameras
I guess I'll keep my UK DVDS then.
Who else is watching the complete Series 1-7 during October?
I haven’t watched this man in years and oh my puberty
Huh! i never noticed any of those goofs as a lad
You forgot to mention that they also have goofs like in the flying kipper there’s a hand pushing Henry
I couldn’t agree more
James is here, I love your videos
Strangely Thomas’s official RUclips channels has these restored versions as well as Amazon Prime. Not sure if the Sprout airings have these restored episodes.
I think so, as the S3 airing I have seen don't have the harsh yellow colours of the originals. Funny thing though, on Roku and KetchupTV streaming sites, the "restored" S1 and S3 are used, however the 1998-2003 Masters of S2 with original footage of the episode but the S5 intro and credits are used, but only for the UK dub.
@@tugboatanni8594 cool.
It’s kind of crazy that some the Thomas vhs tapes that were brought to dvd normally used the vhs masters of the episodes instead of the restored episodes until 2010.
I grew up watching the originals on VHS (yeah, I’m that old) and some of the editorial choices made on the remasters just didn’t make sense. Maybe they were trying to find better shots of the scene and were looking through the reels, perhaps without realising the lack of continuity, or they didn’t put the effort in because they seem to think that Thomas is purely for the young audience and they’re less likely to notice these things.
But to us older fans, we noticed. And it was not good.
Personally I think that the color correction in Ghost Train looks cooler. It makes more sense since it's a ghost-themed episode.
This is why most "goofs in breakvan" videos are diffrent, because it depeands on the version of the episode.
that might answer the hand pushing james, it might've been fixed in the restored versions (the one GWRstudios used)
What about the different USA 🇺🇸 Restored Versions of Thomas and Percy's Christmas/Mountain Adventure? The Version that was probably aired on Sprout and is on Prime/Roku Channel had the Original Audio with the extra UK 🇬🇧 Scenes that was out of sync on the Christmas Adventures/Ultimate Christmas DVD/VHS Releases, and it was somehow fixed for the 2009 Holiday Express DVD along with Lionsgate's Reprint of Ultimate Christmas, but the Unrestored/Out of Sync Version is on Universal's DVD Reprint. Wonder what happened with that particular Episode's Restoration.
James is here and pissed
4:11
Whistle's and *B L E H* ses
Never knew about these restored versions. They restored them all around 1998 for the VHS full series releases. These versions don't seem to have these issues.
Can’t wait!!!!
What about the human hand in the shot and someone saying "watch out for the train"
Damn this was epic
Dieselton heat is trying to help us steam matches but end up causing a failure by telling everyone they're puff balls and teapot To help this damages but that backfired causing them to be mean to esteem telling everyone there are teapots and pop calls 0:09
3:07
Another popular British kids show that was filmed was postman pat and the restoration job on pat was much better done
Watch the Unlucky Tugs video on this,he explains why some of these difference may be and outright why they are
This tent was meant to be helping steam inches but end up being failure by telling everyone they're trash and teapods and puff balls Actually killing lady in the process 2:51
The restored versions are good, but with errors in them they could have been better.
tf does this even mean????
@@JamesIsHere5 The restored have great quality in the episodes but most of the contains a lot of goofs and errors. For instances the cropping is terrible and some of the extra footages don't work. They even cut out scenes that were from the originals.
I couldn’t agree more man, spot on with your points
I wish VHS players were more popular, let alone the original Thomas VHS, then we could escape the horrid remasters
I have an old Samsung VHS Player and a bunch of VHS tapes of fantastic movies from the era. But I need to pick up some Thomas VHS tapes some time :0
@@JohnnyRocker2050 it will be sad when The Thomas VHS Tapes are no more 😭
@@MutePenguin1155 I hope not. If anything we might have to convert the newer stuff into the VHS format eh? 😂
@JohnnyRocker2050 ye deffo mate 😂 am still on the look for Some classic Thomas VHS tapes to Admire forever due to how special thomas is to me
And I've recently come to terms with my secret and plan to make a video Exposing it soon that I am a Thomas fan even though I've never dared to before with all comments saying I'm a baby as I watch a kids show but now I realise, it's my life and I like what I like. I am a Thomas fan and that is who I am. The 16 year old Thomas fan
Where can I watch the remastered versions?
on DVD
Lionsgate releases?@@JamesIsHere5
i think there on amazon prime
@@dillon9378 I checked, they’re the OG
I would stick with the original masters but it would've been better if the can just use computers to fix everything so that the original version of the episodes will look better in the newer restored style. Look at The Three Stooges, that classic is remastered and it looks really great. Same thing with Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, Gumby, Universal Monsters and more. The colors on them are really perfect in a HD style and the audio sinking is in the perfect spots. If Hit Entertain wants to restored Thomas, they need to take lessons from Warner Bros, Universal, Sony Home Entertainment, Shout! Factory and the rest of the studios.
I have a old copter that play DVDs
Where did you get the unrestored footage?
I have them on DVD
@@JamesIsHere5 oh okay thank you
Classic Thomas doesn’t suck it’s best
Remember stop the runaway train I think they remove it
Wait is the stopping the train
well, these are dated episodes, so they could've lost clips from not finding them, or to corruption, so they might have just had to use what they had and try to make it work with the bloopers.
For a show as popular as Thomas & Friends, they should have taken way better care of the film reels. Especially if they were ever thinking of re-editing a whole chunk of episodes.
what happened to the yearly pre-recorded stream prank
well i'm not gonna do it on the same day again, that would be too obvious.
@@JamesIsHere5I don’t think anyone else would even remember the specific date to be honest but yeah ok
well clearly you remembered
@@JamesIsHere5lchgxululgfuflufdrylylrdkdydkdrykfyryiddykrd yeah
I love those dvds
The original masters are better at a long shot
New mic, or is that my fucked up ear
nah, i just decided to talk in a more chill voice this video.
@@JamesIsHere5 oh, neat
The original masters of the episodes in 2003 were unusable so they had to use outakes instead
I watch the Britt alcroft versions
Even jf the restored versions had their flaws, I think the fact Thomas got restored at all is amazing. It’s not as cultural as classic films, but it’s still impressive.
You've gon a long way
What Henry doing?🤨📸📸📸📸📸📸 0:57
Mistakes!
I have never liked the restored episodes. Of course they were more "HD" (?), always felt that original masters are more nostalgic in terms of color and quality. Thta feeling is lost in the restored.
Wow. Amazing!
Can you fix the restored version PLEASE
bruh he doesnt have the film reels how would he do that
@@dillon9378 YOU ARE RIGHT
Why cant we turn on notifications
yeaaaaahhhhh….All of these episodes need to be re-restored and re-edited with better faithfulness to the original versions. Edit: are these issues exclusive to seasons 1-3?
I hear even the HiT era episodes got “restored” DVDs, which weren’t necessary because as bad as those seasons are, the footage already looks fine!
4:08-4:12 Hey. There's a certain thing called editing out audio errors. Learn how to do it, it takes not even a minute to do!
I LOVE THE UNRESTORED
chill out it's not that serious.
huh pensavo odiassi la francia non la spagna😂
Yeah I’m not a fan of the restored episodes
I grew up watching both versions of Thomas, Percy And The Dragon and I didn’t think about it.
The restored Versions Suck Ass.
fortnite
TOBY
ok
DUCK!!
i still prefer the restored versions because it looks miles better despite being 480p
ok eminem.
@@JamesIsHere5 🤘