EEVblog 1489 - Mystery Teardown!

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  • Teardown of a bizarre looking Banshee 343 Ultrasonic Gas Leak Detector
    Thumbs up this video and pinned comment if you want to see a countdown timer refit project!
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  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog  2 года назад +1696

    Thumbs up this video and this pinned comment if you want to see a countdown timer refit project!

    • @gentlemanhk
      @gentlemanhk 2 года назад +21

      yes please!

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 2 года назад +17

      Yes!! Definitely! It MUST have a timer!

    • @edgar9651
      @edgar9651 2 года назад +13

      Obviously it need a timer. But what will happen at 0? Or will you make sure it never counts down to zero?

    • @krz8888888
      @krz8888888 2 года назад +12

      Put a speaker in it

    • @Stoneman06660
      @Stoneman06660 2 года назад +5

      Hell yes!!!
      This has RUclips Dislike Button counter written all over it.

  • @Satelitko
    @Satelitko 2 года назад +248

    Finally, a proper case for a Raspberry Pi! :D

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 2 года назад +10

      There is a company that makes Ex-D rated Raspberry Pis.

    • @cjwrench07
      @cjwrench07 2 года назад +3

      I would love to see one of these used as a case, but in a way that utilizes the 4 sensor nubs for something new.

    • @Parakinese
      @Parakinese 2 года назад

      Lol

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 2 года назад +324

    The principle of this type of protection is that they assume the thing will fill with gas and ignite, and the enclosure must not allow any flame to escape. (During the approvals process, they test this using either hydrogen or acetylene + oxygen, with expensive gas analysers to get an accurate mix to meet the standards)
    This is why it has a long, tight-fitting flange on the main enclosure joint. The terminal area has less stringent requirements, so no flange, but also no active components.
    I think the external glands ( called line bushings) specced for use with these are designed to be gas-tight and not allow gas to go through the cable, hence the lack of per-core sealing here - they typically have a bulkhead filled with epoxy, with the wire stripped bare where it passes through the resin.
    This is not the same thing as intrinsic safety - with IS, the protection is provided by limiting voltages and currents by design, whearas explosion proof (Ex-D and Ex-E from my hazy memory) is used where this is not practical due to power requirements.
    The soldered fuse is not uncommon - a major part of design for Ex approvals is not so much designing it to be safe, but designing it to be easy to prove it's safe. It is standard practice to include fuses, zeners etc. that have no chance of ever acting in normal or even fault conditions, just to make it easy to compartmentalise parts of the circuit to make it easier to evaluate for approvals.
    Including a fuse is a simple & cheap way to prove that the current can never exceed a certain amount under any circumstance - the standards define how much current can pass a fuse of a particular rating, the number 1.7x rings a vague bell. It also reduces the risk that some idiot replaces the fuse with the wrong value ( "less danger of it blowing guv....").

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 года назад +21

      We used to use Helium leak detection for underwater stuff.

    • @retireeelectronics2649
      @retireeelectronics2649 2 года назад +17

      Brings back memories of designing and building Class 1 Division 1 gas detectors for drilling rigs. Equipment is still in use and no one stuck a screwdriver into the metal flange, made me cringe when he did that.

    • @BaileyWootn
      @BaileyWootn 2 года назад +19

      I don't think the connection area has any less stringent requirements. If you look at the flanges you'll see plastic washers at the screws which will be specced to keep a deliberate air gap. The purpose of the wide flanges with a calibrated gap between them is to allow any gasses from an internal flame/explosion to escape while cooling them to below the autoignition temp of the atmosphere they're designed to operate in. If the enclosure were properly sealed and an oxy-fuel mix ignited inside you'd have a bomb. That goes for Ex-D anyway.
      Ex-E enclosures are generally held to a '30 second' standard where they need to prevent the intrusion of gas for 30 seconds. These can be cheap sealed plastic enclosures and are generally used in systems where there is detection like this and a shutdown in case of gas detection. You'd never find Ex-D enclosures in Zones 0 or 1 as there is expected to be an explosive atmosphere during normal operation.

    • @pahom2
      @pahom2 2 года назад +5

      There is no point to make an enclosure that can confine explosion, it would be better to just fill the empty space inside to eliminate the gas volume that can ignite. This thing look like a toy to amuse inspectors who otherwise would not allow the device due to complete ban of electronic on a facility.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 года назад +4

      I was thinking the soldered fuse might be a design choice. Definitely stops someone from replacing it with a larger fuse.
      Thanks for sharing your expertise on this. Very interesting stuff.

  • @toddphelps5030
    @toddphelps5030 2 года назад +82

    I was an engineer at Net Safety for over 10 years (a Canadian company in fact) - it's a blast from the past seeing the "Banshee" here! I worked on the electronics and firmware for every gas detector we designed from 2004-2015 except, ironically, this one - it was a rebranded product. We all had the same reaction to the looks!

    • @JohnDoe-rk4om
      @JohnDoe-rk4om 2 года назад +2

      Do you know much these cost back then? I work in instrumentation and got curious about this. Mostly because I've been realizing everything we quote is way more expensive than it actually is.

    • @toddphelps5030
      @toddphelps5030 2 года назад +7

      @@JohnDoe-rk4om I'm sorry, I don't... but you're correct about pricing, if memory serves many of the point detectors I designed had a BOM cost around $60-$90 (CAD) and sold in the $300+ range. To be fair a large amount of work goes into getting gas detectors to meet performance standards. Accurate & repeatable from -40 to +75 degC, can't allow water to get in when submersed to 1 meter, can't allow explosion to get out, but must be gas permeable enough to have a t90 response time of 30 seconds when the sensor itself has a t90 response time around 15-20 seconds!

    • @JohnDoe-rk4om
      @JohnDoe-rk4om 2 года назад +3

      @@toddphelps5030 Yeah that makes sense to me. Its the same with some machines we make too. Most is just standards / testing.
      That said, when I mentioned overcharging I didn't mean the price of the item accounting for revenue/engineering. I meant that I just started realizing most stuff I get quoted is charged much more than its actual 'msrp' value. Probably because I work for a really big company.
      I looked this up and saw that it was in fact around 300$ and just wanted to confirm because I've seen similar* stuff quoted at 1500$ Haha.
      Like I don't know why it never occurred to me to check before. For example, lots of transducer quotes I've found in the lab are around 600$ to 1000$. These are basic 4-20 mA pressure transmitters of 200, 3000 psi, etc. But they're actually around 300$ or less.

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 2 года назад +13

      For some reason I expected this product to be in the $20,000 range.

    • @BarnSt0rmer
      @BarnSt0rmer 2 года назад

      @@user2C47 It probably was.

  • @td4dotnet
    @td4dotnet 2 года назад +69

    "It's not a bomb it's a clock!" (also, Dave that would make the IDEAL kitchen timer for the Mrs...) 🙂

    • @MrJef06
      @MrJef06 2 года назад +4

      A bit on the bigger side for a kitchen timer, but yes! 😂

    • @jz422
      @jz422 2 года назад +6

      Alarm Clock!

    • @tinkerwithstuff
      @tinkerwithstuff 2 года назад +12

      @@MrJef06 An explosion proof kitchen timer! Gas leak in the kitchen? No worries, timer still works!

    • @urugulu1656
      @urugulu1656 2 года назад

      @@tinkerwithstuff timer certainly does not set off anything in case of event (but the moron actuating the lights when smelling the gas to have a look if thereis anything to turn off certainly will)

  • @ACElectrode
    @ACElectrode 2 года назад +114

    I design industrial explosionproof electrical systems that something like this would be used in. Aside from the obvious heavy duty nature, there is a whole field of study you could jump into regarding flame paths through all the seals, gaps, conduit entries, etc. That is a HIGHLY engineered piece of equipment and probably costs as much as a house! Good on ya for getting one in your hands!

    • @Ariccio123
      @Ariccio123 2 года назад +5

      Flame paths *through* the seals??

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 2 года назад +44

      @@Ariccio123 Yes the seals are designed to fail in a deliberate and slow manner, so that they equalise the pressure over a few seconds to minutes, but at the same time do not allow any flame front past until it has had enough energy pulled from it into the long labyrinth path of metal to cool down below autoignition temperature. After the internal bang you can have soot streaks, but the outside will not ever have gotten any flame escape, or any gas over around 70C, which is below the autoignition temperature for quite a few of the more popular fuel gases used in industry and the home. Has to contain, and not allow ignition of the external explosive mix.

    • @ACElectrode
      @ACElectrode 2 года назад +5

      @@SeanBZA This! Good explanation!

    • @skunkjobb
      @skunkjobb 2 года назад +16

      @@Ariccio123 There are flame arrestors that you can put in a pipe carrying an explosive gas mixture that prevents the flame from passing through the arrestor. No seal at all, the gas goes right through it but a flame can't get by. The thing is narrow passage, high conductivity and large thermal mass so a flame gets cooled down. They only work for a limited time of fire on one side.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 2 года назад +4

      Doubt they made 30000 of them based on serial number if it costs as much as a house. A car is probably closer.

  • @baronbarbaron
    @baronbarbaron 2 года назад +13

    Hello :) In the factory where I work, there is a unit where we produce ethyl alcohol. We use Ɛx rated appliances there. Many of them have similar soldered fuses. When I asked one of the manufacturers why they were like that, they told me that it was a requirement of the insurance companies and a policy of our group as a customer. The idea is that in the event that this fuse burns out, the device should not be repaired, but replaced with another one. It's simply not worth the risk of putting an appliance that has had a technical problem in front of an explosion that will surely cause massive damage and kill people.

  • @d00dEEE
    @d00dEEE 2 года назад +105

    You also need to put an eccentric motor vibrator inside that triggers when the countdown reaches 5 seconds or thereabouts, so as to intensify the effect.

    • @jpa3141
      @jpa3141 2 года назад +16

      Or a big reaction wheel that speeds up to a high-pitched whine and then applies braking at T=0, sending the whole ball tumbling in a random direction.

    • @greenanubis
      @greenanubis 2 года назад +1

      And ticking noise!

    • @KhunThomat
      @KhunThomat 2 года назад

      I would have count it down to 007 and then stop...

    • @josephpadula2283
      @josephpadula2283 2 года назад

      That’s a golden idea!
      Glad you were able to put your Finger on the problem…

  • @bobcunningham6953
    @bobcunningham6953 2 года назад +147

    This construction brings to mind the commercial nuclear plant radiation sensors mounted within the concrete reactor containment that had to survive a LOCA (Loss of Coolant Accident). The sensors needed to survive not only the pressure pulse of the explosive release of steam, but also the more troublesome thermal heat pulse, not to mention the radiation pulse it was intended to measure.
    Those same standards applied to everything within the containment connecting to the sensor, including conduits, cabling and most importantly the connectors. The main approach was to use lots of secret-sauce epoxy everywhere, so the housings themselves didn't need to be built so robust, which particularly mattered for the sensor, as excess material affected its sensitivity, and a large neutron release could make the housing itself radioactive.
    Even the heat-shrink enclosing the connectors was beyond special, where a 10 cm length would cost $200. The coax was an entirely different story, as no manufacturer was willing to certify their coax for LOCA. So we had to do the certification ourselves. While we had access to a physical LOCA simulator for temperature and pressure (which sounded like a bomb going off), we did not have one for radiation. The highest radiation flux we could find was behind the beamstop of a small linear accelerator, where we made a small closet and hung coils of the coax candidates, to be pulled out and tested/characterized every month or so, along with measuring the total radiation dose.
    To keep the cabling to a minimum, we sent 2-4 KV down the coax, with the radiation level encoded on the return. During the LOCA event, the pressure and temperature pulses would significantly change the capacitance of the coax, an effect the overall system had to both survive and account for with great precision. The coax runs could be up to 1 km in length, to get the measuring instrument far enough away from the containment for it to continue to function through the event.

    • @Ariccio123
      @Ariccio123 2 года назад +13

      I am so deeply fascinated by all of this. Is there anywhere to learn more?

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 2 года назад +1

      @@Ariccio123 Go work for Areva or some NPP regulator I guess :D

    • @txm100
      @txm100 2 года назад +1

      SO interesting! Thank you!

    • @pearz420
      @pearz420 2 года назад +1

      It's so awesome whenever humans get a chance to build something as robust as possible, as opposed to the mass-produced word of consumer crap.

    • @markrainford1219
      @markrainford1219 2 года назад

      And the Russians just don't bother.

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman7164 2 года назад +87

    Worked on 'explosion proof' fans and such in the Navy. They aren't completely 'gas tight', but the idea is that any explosion inside won't ignite the atmosphere around them. So for example, submarine battery fans (H2 hazard) had to have very close tolerance fits. H2 might actually get inside, but if it ignites the flame can't 'blow out' through any of the tiny cracks/ crevices. Sort of like how a steel screen placed over a bunsen burner, the flame won't go up through even though hot gases flow up through the screen.
    And of course the casing is strong enough to not rupture if the inside is filled with the 'perfect' mixture of explosive gas/air.
    So that interface cable might let gas seep along it between all the individual conductors, but that's fine.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 года назад +1

      Wow thanks for your expertise on the comment that was cool information.

    • @maxtorque2277
      @maxtorque2277 2 года назад +3

      These devices rely on the quneching effect of a long, narrow and cold high thermal inertia, low thermal impedance "gap". All the joints therefore have big "lands" ie characterisitically long areas between the tight fitting ally halves, so any flame that propogates through that area is quenched during it's passage. The O ring provides environmental sealing but does not seal the unit against high pressure faults

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 2 года назад

      TIL submarines use lead acid batteries.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 2 года назад +1

      @@user2C47 lead acid batteries produce hydrogen when charging. i have seen 2 car batteries explode due to hydrogen and a sparking battery cable.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 2 года назад

      H2 would be one of the very very explosive gases . acetylene is another. must have the highest level of protection.

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom 2 года назад +124

    You've got to modify the display to count down... maybe it can do blanking too so it flashes when it gets to about 10 seconds or something too.

    • @arikb
      @arikb 2 года назад +15

      Don't forget to make it stop at 007 seconds

    • @MichaelOfRohan
      @MichaelOfRohan 2 года назад +1

      Dont hang that on your rearview mirror!

    • @AmishSpecialForces
      @AmishSpecialForces 2 года назад +1

      @@arikb , needs to have a Nixie display though….

    • @LarixusSnydes
      @LarixusSnydes 2 года назад

      Awesome prop... Yes, make it so :-) .

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 2 года назад +44

    Probes into the sensor heads are there to have the heater blocks screwed in instead of the blank probe, to heat the actual sensor itself in use in icing conditions. Self cleaning probably uses those probes, and then a separate port into the case that provides the air pressure for cleaning, via stainless steel pipes and a spiral tube that connects the ports to the top. That is why there are 2 recesses in the probe, one for the cleaner, not fitted and drilled to spec, or the heater, fitted to all but in temperate use only the dummy heater block.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 года назад +5

      Yep, there are two extra ports that are not drilled out.

  • @seeigecannon
    @seeigecannon 2 года назад +60

    At 16:00 you mention seeing the home-made optio-isolators before, but didn't remember where. They were in the electric fence power supply you cracked open a few years ago.

    • @StreuPfeffer
      @StreuPfeffer 2 года назад +1

      when lookign closely OP1-4 are differently oriented as OP5, maybe 1-4 are the selectors for the muxers and OP5 is the return path for the signal ?

    • @andrewmorton9683
      @andrewmorton9683 2 года назад

      It was EEVblog #1277 - Electric Fence Controller Teardown ruclips.net/video/2LuWr25xgzE/видео.html

    • @rkirke1
      @rkirke1 2 года назад

      I'm puzzled as to why all the isolation between the transducer and the processing/I/O though? There were also a heap of what looked like TVSs on the sensor side too.
      I'm used to seeing isolation & protection on cables going *in* to protect against transients from lightning etc.
      To improve SNR from the transducers? Or to prevent a fault on the data cable from passing any electricity to the transducers and potentially providing an ignition source?

    • @seeigecannon
      @seeigecannon 2 года назад

      @@rkirke1 they may have just gone nuts with the intensity safe thing. I used to build an IS device at my previous job (sewer flow meter), and every power supply had 3 diodes to short the power supply in the event of a voltage spike. Also, this was a battery operated device that had to last multiple months, so there were like 15 beefy diodes on a device that draws a max of 100mA.
      As far as the device in the video though, it's possible that it was using that distance of isolation just because it's easier to assemble or something. Though that would require the engineers to actually talk to the lowley operators for DFM, and that is a stretch.

  • @zaphodb777
    @zaphodb777 2 года назад +11

    Ya need to have a big motor and weight in there, so when the counter reaches 0, it vibrates like mad, dancing across the floor, then stops, and a little voice says "bang."

  • @paulpanda1984
    @paulpanda1984 2 года назад +17

    I swear this looks like the training drone that Luke skywalker and obi wan kenobi use in Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope

  • @stevekemble8911
    @stevekemble8911 2 года назад +34

    Please do! Replace those sensors with red LEDs that light up when "armed". It would be nice if it had an audible hum too.

    • @fredfred2363
      @fredfred2363 2 года назад +2

      And put it just behind your mailbox outside...

    • @VeraTR909
      @VeraTR909 2 года назад +1

      Also some beeps increasing in tempo als it counts down the last 30s.

    • @felixcosty
      @felixcosty 2 года назад

      Would be cool to turn it into a big thermal detonator from SW. You trip a sensor when you walk by it and it starts to glow red from the four pods, and makes the sound of a TD, and then starts counting down. Could scare someone new to his work area. LOL

    • @f.falkwings
      @f.falkwings 2 года назад +2

      Glitter bomb is for loosers lmao 🤣

  • @TheCritterWindow
    @TheCritterWindow 2 года назад +18

    Make the count down timer light up and start counting when touched or moved. Just think the fun you could have.

    • @Paxmax
      @Paxmax 2 года назад

      Yeeep!! As soon as the movement stops it can add back a suitable remaining time... Bonus for a eerily calm womans voice "Danger avoided... Enjoy your day!"

  • @SuicideNeil
    @SuicideNeil 2 года назад +70

    I would turn it into a lamp- yank out the guts and the ultrasonic sensor bits, have LEDs with frosted covers shining out of the little black rings on the end of each protrusion, maybe a clock display on the digital readout thingy. Bonus points for pulsating leds that brighten up and dim down in sequence...

    • @coronalight77
      @coronalight77 2 года назад

      Lol how original

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil 2 года назад +2

      @@coronalight77 Dave could use it as a doorstop I suppose- that might be more original?..

    • @charlesballiet7074
      @charlesballiet7074 2 года назад

      I could make an identical lamp out of a basketball, carboard tubes and paint. no if this gets turned into something best to make use of its main features being a robust pressure container.

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil 2 года назад +1

      @@charlesballiet7074 What would you store in it, smelly farts?

  • @dash8brj
    @dash8brj 2 года назад +8

    Yes you HAVE to make that display into a countdown timer, complete with piezo speaker that makes the classic "pip - pip - pip" sound that all bombs make in the movies/TV shows like MacGyver :) Perhaps you could even get pretty cluey and when it reaches 2 minutes left, include a capacitor charging sound (i.e. detonation/firing circuits charging up!) Yes it does look like a WWII sea mine!

  • @darikmatters8866
    @darikmatters8866 2 года назад +4

    You have the explosion proof issue backwards (I have sold industrial electrical equipment for over 40 years and have sold thousands of EX rates pieces of equipment).. They are designed so that if there is a failure inside and ignites the gas inside the device the flames and or explosion is contained and wont ignite anything outside the device.. If there is a breather it will have a very fine metal wool inside to prevent flame propagation (If they made all their own components they could have hid the breather in the cable connector). The inside volume is usually very small to limit the volume of flammable gas.. Less gas, less internal pressure if there is a fire or explosion inside. The volume of this device is huge thus the extremely heavy walls.

  • @NoName-ef3jq
    @NoName-ef3jq 2 года назад +1

    I love how excited he sounds through the whole video.

  • @mfryer100
    @mfryer100 2 года назад +10

    You should totally make a countdown for that! Maybe also have it make whirl click and beep sounds as it counts down.

  • @davidellis7960
    @davidellis7960 2 года назад +2

    Hi Dave , The Key to EP is not to pressure seal completely, but let the hot gases cool as they leak out so they can not ignite the atmosphere outside.

  • @dahlbergt
    @dahlbergt 2 года назад +1

    Someone has probably mentioned it already but on page 22 of the manual, the empty space, between the sensor houses, is described as "pump compartment".
    Also, on page 46, an "H2S pump" is listed as a spare part.

  • @AtomicShrimp
    @AtomicShrimp 2 года назад +2

    Totally looks like something out of Tales from the Loop. I Want one.

  • @cheeseparis1
    @cheeseparis1 2 года назад +3

    thank you! This is adorable, this thing has been assembled by hand by skillful workers.
    I would retro-engeneer the counter and use it as a time display, add a MP3 player circuit in there and use it to listen to music in the bus :p

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 2 года назад +14

    This is what you get when you tell an engineer their is no budget. Just beautiful.

  • @SeifEddineB
    @SeifEddineB 2 года назад +1

    There are some much less beautiful sensors equipped with IIoT, which also detect the ultrasonic sound of water pipes leaking. To increase the precision of the detection, they are used in large numbers in a mesh network.

  • @rubikmonat6589
    @rubikmonat6589 2 года назад +1

    You will probably find the TO220 devices on the heatsink are the heater, for preventing icing in cold climates. Fuse is soldered in so people can't replace it with a wrong item reason is:. That opto isolated area is all about limited energy so there's not enough power there to generate a spark at the microphones in any possible conditions. The power will get across there via that fuse then there will be zeners to limit voltage and blow the fuse. There is also a mandated clearance distance around that intrinsically safe circuit, which is why the homebrew optocouplers exist.

  • @stuartmcconnachie
    @stuartmcconnachie 2 года назад +20

    Needs a motion sensor so it starts the countdown when you pick it up.
    Then just leave it around the lab until someone picks it up for a closer look, “uh-oh, now you’re bu**ered!”.
    Then some secret way of manipulating it so it stops. Perhaps a certain number of deceleration events by smacking it on the table in various orientations.

    • @DanBowkley
      @DanBowkley 2 года назад +3

      An accelerometer inside to make it act like a magic 8 ball. Turn it upside down to shut it off.

    • @elpechos
      @elpechos 2 года назад +1

      Why did you censor buttered?

    • @DanBowkley
      @DanBowkley 2 года назад +1

      @@elpechos it's probably buggered, which is a pretty foul word (buttraped, pretty much) in UK English.

    • @elpechos
      @elpechos 2 года назад

      @@DanBowkley Could be bunkered

  • @ct92404
    @ct92404 2 года назад +3

    If you think about it, in a weird way it actually is pretty cool and beautiful...all the machining, the paint job, etc

  • @Stoney3K
    @Stoney3K 2 года назад +2

    I can see this thing be a perfect empty shell for either a movie prop or a "defuse the bomb" kind of gimmick that can be used in airsoft games or an escape room. You could put some RGB LEDs in the transducers together with a speaker to signal the bomb has detonated and the "defusing" team has lost.
    The IR can be used with a simple TV remote for code input to defuse it.

    • @user2C47
      @user2C47 2 года назад

      Or maybe something that releases a heavy spring with a weight.

  • @MyAvitech
    @MyAvitech 2 года назад +8

    A few years back I built clock which would read the correct time except that the seconds would count down.
    I started making a case for it from PVC pipes but figured it little might cause some panic so I never finished it. But maybe sounds like a good project for your case.

    • @triangle3510
      @triangle3510 2 года назад

      That’s a great idea! So it’s nice and functional at the same time.

    • @LesNewell
      @LesNewell 2 года назад +2

      I have an empty high pressure gas cylinder that I really want to weld some fins on, paint it military green and half bury in the front garden. I'm just worried I might end up with the police or bomb squad knocking on my door!

  • @samueljames9342
    @samueljames9342 2 года назад +4

    As far as the heater, look at the part you referred to as a heat sink. Loved the video

  • @davidedgar2818
    @davidedgar2818 2 года назад +2

    This Is an incredible find. I have only seen one similar device. That was in the early eighties.
    I had a neighbor who was a top notch nuclear physicist. He took me on a tour of Brookhaven lab ( and his experiments in the early 70's. This instrument is a result of the experimentation of that era.)
    Thank you for showing the basic tech. You should look back to the origins.
    I worked in the intelligence us Navy, in the 80's and this type of system was just being instrumented.

  • @AnalogueGround
    @AnalogueGround 2 года назад

    Beauty and precision! I think the designer gave a nod and a wink to Sputnik.

  • @rodrigomaero
    @rodrigomaero 2 года назад +3

    Yes please do the counter!! You could also add a little smoke machine so it starts to smoke when it gets to zero

  • @memakesillything9491
    @memakesillything9491 Год назад

    I love seeing things like the numbers scribbled in sharpie on the female connectors coming from the potted area. It tells me that whoever manufactured that part of the unit wanted to keep track of which cables went where. The human touch that this adds to an otherwise decidedly industrial object tickles my brain in a fun way.

  • @wa7215
    @wa7215 2 года назад +2

    Awww, I’m so disappointed Dave..! I was fully expecting to see a couple of Plutonium hemispheres inside there surrounded by a shaped explosive lens, with at least a 25 kilo-tonne yield…! 😉😁😂

  • @pete3897
    @pete3897 2 года назад +1

    I'd be keen to see multiple videos related to the "build a counter circuit" idea. Reverse-engineering in one, block-diagram design of the replacement in another, then schematic design, followed by PCB design and then final finished project presentation to round out a cool 5! :)

  • @matthewchadwick7690
    @matthewchadwick7690 2 года назад +3

    You should paint the case yellow with black diagonal warning stripes around the midsection.

  • @RK-kn1ud
    @RK-kn1ud 2 года назад +4

    "Internal heating" - 160W power consumption
    They play the same game with security cameras.

  • @MrMaxeemum
    @MrMaxeemum 2 года назад +1

    Looks like it has been dropped at some point. The posts holding the internal PCBs had snapped off which is why there were so many crinkle washers loose inside. Along with a countdown timer you need to add some accessible wires that can be cut to stop the countdown (but which colour should be cut? red? blue? green?) and if the wrong one gets cut it lights a small pyro to scare the bejesus out of you.

  • @matteopascoli
    @matteopascoli 2 года назад +2

    The pcb for the countdouwn should also have a speaker that does ‘tick, tick…’, or possibly a loud relay.

  • @teardowndan5364
    @teardowndan5364 2 года назад +1

    Perfect sealing is not important. What is is preventing any flames or sparks from getting out. There is no gunk inside the cable because the cable is effectively acting like a spark/flame suppressor, wicking the heat out of whatever gasses may be attempting to make their way through long before they have a chance to ignite anything.

  • @simen9485
    @simen9485 2 года назад

    I work with designing LNG plants and have never seen a ultrasonic gas detector before. Super cool! If there is a good leak, the sound can be really loud and not just in the ultrasonic range. One thing I always found interesting is that pt100 elements is one of the best ways of detecting liquefied gas leaks :)

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 2 года назад +4

    That tiny board might be a hall sensor to allow external test activation with a magnet

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 2 года назад +2

      That housing looks like steel casting, so more likely internal temperature sensor, used to both compensate for speed of sound, and also to activate heaters when the unit is in icing conditions, though the heaters look like an option not on this model.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 года назад +1

      @@SeanBZA Yes, I think it's a temp sensor for the optional internal heater, so it's measuring the case temperature.

  • @solosailorsv8065
    @solosailorsv8065 2 года назад

    QUALITY !! Investigate the component selection, solder quality, machining, materials, thermal management, and de-rated circuit biasing for a true appreciation of a very robust Design !

  • @zeekjones1
    @zeekjones1 2 года назад +2

    My first thought seeing a sphere with sensor pods...
    *'Oh sh~~ he's got a nuclear reactor!'*
    I do like the over-built industrial containment aesthetic.

  • @alexanderkuhn2298
    @alexanderkuhn2298 2 года назад

    Those types of DIY optocouplers are very common in Fender guitar amps. They call them "dead bugs" and are used for the tremolo effect. The bulb is hooked to a phase shift oscillator and the LDR is used to dampen the signal.

  • @IanScottJohnston
    @IanScottJohnston 2 года назад +8

    Hazy memory but I did a bit of Exd and Exe design for UK offshore back in the day (80's/90's), so this unit is Exd meaning it's explosion proof, i.e. Any major problems on the inside won't propogate outside.
    The cable glanding and the ultrasonic sensors, i.e. Anything that connects from the internal space to the external world has to be Exd rated. There were some types of cable entries/glands that had to be packed with an epoxy type stuff.
    It's all about flame paths.
    If I remember correctly, you had to declare and submit a BOM and layout drg for the internals in order to comply with the Baseefa/ATEX Exd rating before use.
    Once done, you couldn't drill any holes or strictly speaking change any internal parts.
    Exe (I.S. intrinsically safe) was different, that was all about limiting voltages and currents via certified interface modules including zener barriers, galvanic isolators etc. I did more design on the I.S. side. I remember designing and getting approval for a large Exe Lcd display and during the cert process being limited to the amount of total capacitance on my Pcb, the distance between components etc etc.
    With Exd, you are given a lot more lateral.
    Dave's unit it would have been one expensive puppy back in the day........!
    Ian

    • @regd809
      @regd809 2 года назад

      I assume BOM means Bill Of Materials. Something you don't want to be talking about in an airport or anywhere else near someone in security!

  • @RMJTOOLS
    @RMJTOOLS 2 года назад

    Funny that. Looks like a Mk. 5 Romulan photonic mine. Strange though I’ve never seen one uncloaked. Thanks for the unboxing vid!

  • @lyricalnatty
    @lyricalnatty 2 года назад +1

    11:30 that put me right on the edge, wow. I thought i was watching THE HURT LOCKER...im even shaking, i thought some bars of pressure about to go 💥💥🎆🕳️

  • @fenwah1
    @fenwah1 2 года назад +2

    Banshee 343? Is that a Halo reference? 343 Industries is apparently named after the character 343 Guilty Spark, which would be fitting for an explosion detector, and it even looks a bit like him.... the font even looks like the 343 Industries logo

  • @michaelslee4336
    @michaelslee4336 2 года назад

    20 years ago our Cl2 plant was built new and the old Cl2 plant was decommissioned. Some years prior to that an operator was sadly killed in the old plant when he started a Hydrogen compressor and the local control panel exploded, H2 had crept from the compressor though the conduit into the cabinet and ignited when a start button was depressed. Thank God our cabinets are now pressurised with low pressure alarms on them.

  • @cgourin
    @cgourin 2 года назад +3

    Funny how a doomsday preventing device looks so much like a Futurama doomsday device.

  • @maxtorque2277
    @maxtorque2277 2 года назад +1

    This totally needs some sort of IOT connection, perhaps to set the timer, to start the countdown and a webcam or lighting, all linked to the EEVblog website 🙂

  • @shawnbergin8479
    @shawnbergin8479 2 года назад +1

    At first glance I was reminded of the on board fire extinguisher pods on USARMY Sikorsky UH60 Blackhawk Helicopters. I was looking for the firing squib ports on that bit of kit there. Thanks Dave !

  • @krz8888888
    @krz8888888 2 года назад +3

    Maybe the to220 are used as heaters

  • @jpdemer5
    @jpdemer5 2 года назад

    It would be interesting to see if the cable bundle is stuffed with potting material at any point. On one hand, a flame could not readily propagate the length of the air passages from one side to the other; on the other hand, the blue sealant would be superfluous if gases are free to diffuse through the bundle.

  • @thegreenpickel
    @thegreenpickel Год назад

    Those HDSP-U113 seven segments are really nice. This would make a great cooking timer for the kitchen.

  • @DavePoo
    @DavePoo 2 года назад +1

    "Banshee 343" - Is the name of this a video game reference? The Banshee is a vehicle in Halo, and 343 is "343 Guilty Spark" from Halo. Halo series is now looked after by 343 industries.

  • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
    @DUKE_of_RAMBLE 2 года назад

    I echo all the sentiments that it would be an absolute crime to *_NOT_* do anything with it! It would also make a nice movie prop, for any number of things.
    Also, nice to see AvE's hammer hanging out in the background! 🤘

  • @beatlessteve1010
    @beatlessteve1010 2 года назад

    I used to assemble troubleshoot and repair infrared light curtains ..which were safety devices used in machinery where limbs could get damaged ...and we got an order for an explosion proof light curtain once which we made with stainless steel .

  • @Gunbudder
    @Gunbudder 2 года назад +1

    5:26 that kind of looks like a burst disc, which is a telltale for pressure waves in air. they can be calibrated to burst at specific pressures to indicate how strong a blast is (in terms of the pressure wave). i've never seen a burst disc hidden behind a sealed panel though. that panel over it almost looks like a GPS antenna, but its facing the wrong way lol

  • @derofromdown-under2832
    @derofromdown-under2832 2 года назад +1

    Please do the mini project Dave... Thanx 10/10

  • @borghorsa1902
    @borghorsa1902 2 года назад +1

    At first I thought it was an airspace gyroscope. Anyway, I love expensive machinery teardowns, especially mil-spec items. Medical equipment is also high quality, way above consumer grade

  • @andrewphi4958
    @andrewphi4958 2 года назад

    What a lovely Magnusson device! You're reading my thoughts! A perfect movie prop for you-know-what. :))) Such a good case! I envy you so much! ))

  • @BenChilds
    @BenChilds 2 года назад +2

    According to the movie Hot Fuzz, that's a sea mine.

  • @Jay22222
    @Jay22222 2 года назад +1

    And just like the Death Star, it has a convenient, tiny path of ingress through the cabling to all the sensitive bits inside.

  • @Direkin
    @Direkin 2 года назад

    What a fascinating bit of kit.

  • @amydamon2323
    @amydamon2323 2 года назад

    Cool video. Definitely make a countdown timer and show us your design process and construction.

  • @theNeWo1
    @theNeWo1 2 года назад +1

    I think you need to put the timer onto this with your kids so they can take it to school for show and tell to show the other kids what they and dad made on the weekend.

  • @mauricevandoeselaar
    @mauricevandoeselaar 2 года назад

    @9.25 i think leak internal is no issue as both parts are in the exd box. The glands to go in and out have epoxy harderner and only strands are allowed. Sometimes cables are allowe but the a minimal length is required of a certified cable. In the usa conduit is used with a kind of concrete filling in y shaped pieces. All is pretty hard to service, ask me why i know :-)

  • @Darryl_Frost
    @Darryl_Frost 2 года назад

    When working in maritime electronics we used to have to travel by air, the same applies to things like ships Gyro's, (and your tools), airlines don't like them at all!
    I remember we used to test for intrinsically safe gear, you put it in a flammable atmosphere and try it!! We had to do it with radio's for the mines. (at Philips TDS).
    Good video..

  • @donmilton9664
    @donmilton9664 2 года назад

    That was an awesome tear down! And that would be so cool to have like an infrared sensor or remote controlled reset with a countdown. I'd love to see a project where you did that and just have it sitting on your shelf with it counting down LOL

  • @tmd63
    @tmd63 2 года назад

    The Opto Isolator is not an LED-LED but would be a 2 pin photo transistor, Probaly in a plastic tube under the heatshrink.

  • @bobbybiggs4348
    @bobbybiggs4348 2 года назад

    Definatly vote for the mini project. Maybe a funky clock that you set with an arduino based infrared remote.

    • @bobbybiggs4348
      @bobbybiggs4348 2 года назад

      Maybe the heaters are those TO220 packs? Transistor?

  • @ruikazane5123
    @ruikazane5123 2 года назад +2

    "Banshee 343" sounds like folks from Halo designed the thing
    At first I had the same thought of being something used underwater...maybe sonar or underwater microphone for example. And you can go further than just a clock. You know you can!

    • @DavePoo
      @DavePoo 2 года назад +2

      It looks a bit like 343 Guilty Spark, can't be coincidence right?

  • @joro4301
    @joro4301 2 года назад +1

    Needs a countdown timer. Great vid.

  • @Lorenz.Machine
    @Lorenz.Machine 2 года назад

    As soon as I saw that terrible colour I thought it would be a Rosemount model.
    Everything we use needs the Ex rating (in the plant I work at), which is probably what keeps pelican handheld torch sales up.

  • @phizc
    @phizc 2 года назад +3

    It's surprising to me that there's so much empty space inside. I would have thought that having as little room for gases to accumulate would be a good thing.

    • @jpdemer5
      @jpdemer5 2 года назад

      It has to be spherical for maximum strength - which makes it hard to efficiently cram in circuit boards. You could have a stack of circular boards of varying diameters, but it's easier and cheaper to just make the case bigger and heavier.

  • @steingat
    @steingat 2 года назад +2

    Turn it into an Alarm Clock!

  • @AZOffRoadster
    @AZOffRoadster 2 года назад

    Plumber just used an ultrasonic leak detector to find a leak under the garage. Amazingly accurate.

  • @kabnoot
    @kabnoot 2 года назад

    The engineering that went into that is crazy. Its such a complex function for such a simple looking device.

  • @johnleclair663
    @johnleclair663 2 года назад

    Gotta be one of the coolest looking things I have seen in a long time.

  • @DownhillAllTheWay
    @DownhillAllTheWay 2 года назад +1

    "You wouldn't get it through airport security" - I'll say! It looks like an anti-ship mine.

  • @ottoodell_dell
    @ottoodell_dell 2 года назад

    With those rotary sw. one can set up the Scale for the 4 to 20 mA courrent loop . ( Pv for 4mA , for low value , 20 for Hi Value for ex.) In case your SCADA system has AMS included , ( for ex like Emerson DeltaV can have ) you get a lot of info from , or you can remotely set up the mesuring ranges etc on a nice interface on your Professional Plus WorkStation

  • @TrismegistusMx
    @TrismegistusMx 2 года назад

    Wild that the main design difference between a grenade and an explosion proof sensor is payload vs casing thickness.

  • @TechGuyCharlie
    @TechGuyCharlie 2 года назад

    I have been waiting for this!!

  • @ProdigalPorcupine
    @ProdigalPorcupine 2 года назад

    That would look awesome painted black!

  • @hermanngoring397
    @hermanngoring397 2 года назад

    First put the countdown timer on the display before trying to pass thru the airport with that thing LOL...It freacked me out as hell, and I saw many weird contraptions 👀👀😂

  • @makerofthingsunique
    @makerofthingsunique 2 года назад

    Go for it. Needs to could down and then have a ticking sound for extra effect. Maybe vibrate at 10 seconds to go :)

  • @WacKEDmaN
    @WacKEDmaN 2 года назад +3

    this one should have had a clickbait title!... "Naval Mine Teardown!"..
    what beautiful engineering!

  • @vileCR999
    @vileCR999 2 года назад +1

    Yoooo! That 343 logo uses the same font as the 343 Industries logo for the devs that do Halo. And Banshee is a Halo vehicle lol

  • @RichardWatt
    @RichardWatt 2 года назад

    It's also ATEX certified: ATmosphere EXplosif. Some sewage pumps are also ATEX certified due to their working environment.

  • @billdberger7407
    @billdberger7407 2 года назад +1

    How is it not a single sifi prop-master has ever used one of these in a production, the right paint plus a few blinknights and you've got a 'quantum singularity inversion mine'.

  • @FARLANDER762
    @FARLANDER762 2 года назад

    That thing was brand new. They don't look like that after even several months in tropical or marine environments.
    Definitely want to see the countdown timer. You could add some red/green LED's where the sensors are for effect. I also like your idea of an IR interface to control it. You could get a generic TV remote to save some build time.

  • @davidschwartz8155
    @davidschwartz8155 2 года назад +1

    Cool device and a very unique teardown. Did you know that jangling keys can generate ultrasonic sound? Maybe some key shaking could set it off. It's basically a microphone.

    • @gabiold
      @gabiold 2 года назад

      Since it is a sensor for industrual environment, which is practically the total opposite of a quiet lab environment, I would be seriously surprised if jiggling keys would set it off.
      I don't know why is there a CPLD in it but not a DSP, but they probably tuned it very properly to avoid any false positives.
      But with a proper tweeter or other transducer, an amp., and a soundcard that can sample at 96 or 192kHz it might be possible to set it off with some simulated waveform.

  • @orbaronster
    @orbaronster 2 года назад

    So nice that it comes with a builtin screws tray @5:14