Pottery and Revolution
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- Опубликовано: 8 янв 2023
- There were “rebellious” activities in colonial America well before the French and Indian War and the series of governmental acts that would eventually culminate in the American Revolution. The history of the ‘poor potter’ of Yorktown, and how his business reflected the growing desire for American independence, deserves to be remembered.
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Interesting. Speaking of pottery, the Sebring family might be a good subject.
The poor Potter = What a deal......A special thanks to THG🎀....Bye for now
Just FYI there is some sort of static sound in the video. Thank you for another wonderful and informative video!
Red Wing Pottery of Red Wing Minnesota has a long history. It might be an interesting idea for a video. There's a place in Red Wing called Clay City that the pottery clay was mined from.
As a former archaeologist, academic, and now potter, I enjoyed this episode. The French had similar restrictions in New France. However, kilns have been discovered in Canada and Louisiana as well as pottery that was clearly made in New France. Thanks again.
*sometimes thing just pop in and out of ones feed.* welcome back! _JC
I worked for Wedgwood for 20 years and found this very interesting 🙏🙏
I love how each intro of an episode is somehow linked with the subject of that video and each intro is unique.
As a potter and history fiend I loved this episode. I knew somewhat about covering up pottery production in the colonies but had no idea that we believed there had been no production to speak of. Was also shocked that idea persisted through the 1970s! Always fun to learn the truth!
Loved this video. I am a descendant of Captain John Norton, who created his own pottery line, Norton pottery,( under many family names during its run). It is now better known as Bennington Pottery, as that is where he lived. I have a piece of Norton pottery, now in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NY on loan from our family . I am assuming that they went through the same process in Vermont, but will see what I can now find with this new slant on history. Thanks :)
Pottery is a major source for historical knowledge. Archeologists go crazy whenever they find it at a site.
It used to be. RUclips, Facebook, Twitter at Al will lay everything bare and spell everything out plainly. Sociologists, archeologists and historians of the future won't have to work very hard or discover many Mysteries from the 21st century on!
@@HM2SGT now that's an interesting point. Future archeology will be much more like what we call data forensics - though after viewing through that lens, i guess technically traditional archaeology is a kind of data forensics as well, just with lots more interpolation
@@HM2SGT "Herodotus says, "Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest do not happen at all: The conscientious historian will correct these defects."
- Mark Twain
@@HM2SGT There's still the fun and hard work of actually going on a dig though. I went on one in college for 3 months in the Yucatan. What's sad is there are so many archaeological treasures around the world which are protected by local laws or countries which forbid excavation.
Hi history friends! I am an archaeologist 🎉 and I thought it’d be fun to respond 🙋♀️I go crazy for pottery because it’s so fragile. The earth and time loves to break and degrade pottery, so it’s rare (and exciting!) to find intact pieces bigger than an inch or two.
And yes! It’s really fun to go out to an established site. But most archaeologists are phase 1 travel gigs, aka tons of shovel testing and hiking around looking at the ground. it’s a 10 hour/day, often 10 days/week labor intensive job, where we don’t find much of anything. But when we do, it’s really exciting! Worth the hundreds of negative holes I’ve dug in just last year alone.
*This episode reminds me of my childhood and Youth in New Hampshire, visiting various New Hampshire and New England Colonial sites as part of school trips, and visiting Mid-Atlantic Colonial historical places on family trips.* 😊
The Yorktown and Williamsburg area is truly fascinating. You really feel how real history is there. The restoration of Williamsburg might make a nice video.
We got to go film in 2021 sponsored by Visit Williamsburg. We've done several episodes on history there, and plan many more. Of course Colonial Williamsburg and Jamestown Settlement are great, but there are a number of smaller museums, like the Waterman's museum in Yorktown to visit as well.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Virginia is my favourite state. In addition to natural beauty you cannot go 5 miles without running into something of historical interest.
I loved this episode, especially since I used to live near Yorktown/Williamsburg/Jamestown. The entire area is filled with historical significance! I especially loved visiting the battlefield; the tour guides know how to spin a yarn!
My wife and I do quite a bit of artifact lookin. In one nearby creek we find a lot of pieces of woodland period native American pottery.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise and for taking us on your adventure through time and space and hello from Detroit Michigan brother 94/275
Thank you for showcasing our Poor Potter! We live in Yorktown and are very proud of the role it played in the Revolution. More people should come and explore Where Freedom was Won!
Interesting how much better your presentations look due to scanning across or zooming slowly in on photographs rather than just showing them stationary. Same photo but for some reason, more interesting to look at. Big fan here.
So who else in the USA watched The Great Pottery Throw Down? A new season just started and I'm addicted to the show.
My family settled in northeast Texas in 1822 after landing in Georgia from England in 1777. There were lots of pottery makers in this corner of Texas, as many pieces still exist today. I have a salt glazed pitcher that my family brought from Georgia to Texas that is from back in the late 1700's.
I think this episode was absolutely fantastic. I love cast iron and earthenware and pottery. I have gone so far as to create a 18th century outdoor kitchen in my backyard. There is nothing like cooking with earthenware. And to learn a small tidbit of History that shows how we used Pottery to essentially give the mother country the middle finger is absolutely awesome!
Our old neighborhood in NJ had an old Dutch cemetery in it. Behind it were trails in the woods that we found and old wagon. Pieces of Delft & old bottles.
When I was stationed at Langley AFB, VA, I visited Yorktown Battlefield. But not Yorktown itself. Another great video.
Neat town, well worth a visit. It is worth your time to get a local tour, and visit the Waterman's museum . I highly recommend the YorkTown Pub and Mobjack Bay Coffee Roasters and Petite Cafe. (They didn't pay me for endorsement, they just treated us very well. )
@@TheHistoryGuyChannelsn’t it neat how a good experience can make you tell others? I have the same experience when I visit Columbus Ohio. It’s cool getting to stay in the hotel across the street from our states Supreme Court.
Industrial history is a topic that deserves more attention, thank-you for helping to address that deficiency.
More broadly, the lack of records for the Colonial period makes historical research challenging. It never would have occurred to me that there is intentional falsification and misrepresentation in the official reports.
We take containers for granted until you need one. Bring able to transport water was an advancement for our species. Years ago before cars used a closed engine cooling radiator that used coolant/anti-freeze, my father's car overheated for lack of water. To make things worse, we had no container to bring water from a nearby source. Thank God the car had hubcaps. But I realized then that even a woven basket lined with pitch like The locals did hundreds of years ago, would have been great.
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Paper was another commodity made locally in quantity. Ben Franklin was said to have owned several mills. Nathaniel Greene was a noted ironmonger and Anthony Wayne's family ran a tannery. So, there was a fair amount of local industry.
Very interesting story that elucidates the foolishness of colonial restrictions on the production of goods. I have heard pottery described as early take-away containers - with a short life and needed by the thousands. So it was sensible that Lt. Gov. Gooch decided to ignore/belittle the pottery work's activities. I wonder how many other businesses he protected?
Williamsburg pottery - went there every time we visited relatives in Gloucester which is also a neat town - spent too much time at the pottery!
Thank you for sharing!
Love seeing Williamsburg!
Thank you, History Guy!
Thank you. Always a class act.
You make the smallest thing interesting.
Thank you.
Thank for a great episode on the pottery on the American Colonies. Just further history to back up information I have been reading about Franklin & Washington by Edward Larson , The Founding Partnership. THANKS FOR THE HISTORY!
Glad to see well made videos like this! I think too many Americans are missing the importance of being a captive market for Europe played in the Revolutionary mindset. Too many have bought into taxation as the primary reason mentality and it is giving a skewed perspective on our history.
I've always known that the colonists made fine furniture, silverware and iron tools but never realized the they made pottery on a large scale. But it makes sense as while the colonists living in port cities had easy access to goods made in England the inland colonists had to make do with local manufacturer. I mean all a potter needed was a good source of clay of reasonable quality and his wheel and he could make and sell pottery. If he had help, he could run a pretty good business!
"Poor potter", indeed!
Governor Douche! This sounds like a clean sweep !👌
THat's funny. But unfortunately the name was Gooch. He was a relatively good guy.
const sincity . great ha ha . I do not think he was related to Lord Douche .
I really appreciate your content and your unique delivery. Best wishes from Tennessee.
Practically all the pottery manufactured in the colonies was utilitarian ware. It seems likely that it wasn't rebellion, but necessity, that caused the manufacture of pottery. In spite of the quality of the ware, England still had a great edge in high-quality pottery. Wedgwood, which was founded in 1759, greatly exceeded anything the colonies could make, and nothing in the U.S. could match it until the late nineteenth century, with the founding of Lenox. Even Haviland, founded by Americans in the 1840s, initially had to manufacture its high-quality goods in Limoges, France, until after the Civil War.
I am not going to lie, it's neat to hear about William Gooch on the show. My wife is related to him. Her maiden name is Gooch and her family moved from Virginia to Missouri in the 1840s.
As a past hobby potter, I very much approve and enjoy this episode. As a lover of history, even more so! The salt glazed mugs at 6:47 show just how 'poor' the quality of pottery was. They look like gloriously straight handles - and it takes some practice to get this. Also the salt glaze is just gorgeous! I would be proud to have them in my collection. :)
The seeds of revelation were carried in pottery.
Lance Southwark is pronounced Suth -uk. 😁It was rather more famous for it's geese. Being south of the river (A whole diffrent world from them up north) it was outside the City. And in Rogers time was famous as 'A place of Entertainment'. The area was under the Diocise of Winchester . Hence winchester Geese, liccensed ladies of the night.
Look up John Henry Benner (Johan Heinrich Benner), brought in from a German state pre French and Indian War, and his sons Christopher and Peter, born in the Colonies. Great x4 and 5 grandfathers of mine. Peter a great uncle. Potters. You'll find John Henry's work in museums. John Henry Benner was brought in to set up pottery kilns and make high end pottery. Hingham Colony in Massachusetts. You'll potters were in the Battles of Lexington and Concord.
Interesting as usual. I don't know why England thought it could run the Americas from so far away. Thank you for sharing. Have a great new year and stay safe.🙂🙂
Oh how times change! A lot of English people talk about the US in that manner now. 🤣
British arrogance. Still exists. Lucky for them we came to their rescue in two World Wars considering the history. Never underestimate a common language!
It was possibly because they had been doing similar things for hundreds of years. Remember that whole thing where the sun never set on the British empire?
There's a lot of poor potters in Stoke-on-Trent now most of our work has migrated to china
Honest vessels.
The beginnings of the American Dream. Hats off to “The Poor Potter”
I did enjoy this episode. I don't believe, when it comes to The American Revolution, that economic ideas are discussed enough. The early founders of this nation were not just the men who went to Philadelphia. They were also entrepreneurs like William Rodgers. Although all the men at Independence Hall were entrepreneurs. Ben Franklin might have come up with the idea of "franchising" a business.
(That might be an idea for a "History Guy" episode).
The Revolutionaries were not just fighting to break away politically from Great Britain but economically as well. Why should they really on manufactured goods from across an ocean. Sometimes of poor quality. When the can make them here.
Makes you think about current day issues.
I wonder how Colonists would be expected to have money to buy anything from England without any local merchants or manufacturing.
The idea was that they sell raw materials and buy manufactured ones.
A separate dive into American glass would also be cool, even if it didn't really pick up steam until after the revolution, like Boston & Sandwich and New Jersey.
And I bet the kitties love the toy 😏
I appreciate you, thank you for making content.
Virginia has many deposits of good quality clay leading to a long history of pottery and brick manufacture.
Think of all the stately brick buildings in Williamsburg.
We also still have Goochland and Spotswood counties named after our early Governors along with many other counties.
Being land settled by people with a drive and a hunger it should be no surprise that silly rules would not stop them from following their dreams to success.
Besides Gooch had only to look back to Gov Sir William Berkeley and Bacon’s Rebellion to decide that keeping the local settlers happy was a good idea.
great story, i'd like to point out that green paint on the walls @ 10:57 is arsenic also used to make green dresses in that time period.
' i/me am so too poor that am unable to afford a pot to pee in ! '
So you have to waste a valuable resourse! A lot of money in pee,! Cleaning agent, mordicant to fix dyes, mix with the right soil to make Saltpetere .
I’d love to see a segment on Dangerous Dan Tucker
Toured Jamestown and Williamsburg while stationed in Norfolk/Virginia Beach from 1989-2003.
Another intresting tidbit. I love it. Can we get the history of chimneys
If anyone is still wondering why the Royal colonial government would be so quick to look the other way when it came to colonial manufacturers, it's worth remembering officials were paid from local tax revenue. And mercantilist policies meant there was such a shortage of money in Virginia they often had to be paid very inconveniently with tobacco leaves. . . but if some enterprising subject offerd to pay his taxes in kind with another good, say some lovely stoneware, why certainly the lieutenant wouldn't complain!
Congrats! Can you do one on lamps?
Lance is there any modern Records pointing to locations from Maine down thru New England giving locations of Broadaxe Blaze on White Pines . That would be another Exciting Video . Thank you for your work .
Another great segment. I’m learning more from every one of your videos. Thanks. G.
While Cromwell was in power in England, the colonies were left pretty much to their own devices. Very little oversight, as it were.
The colonists kind of liked this, and it went on long enough for them to get accustomed to it.
Boy,did they get used to it.
So... The concept of "Sticking it to the Man" started with the nascent Revolutionaries who informed our Founding Fathers............
It can't have been an easy feat to hide a sophisticated pottery manufacturing factory right under the noses of British government officials. For one thing, the smoke and the smell of a kiln; when I was tooling around the Greek Islands on a small motorcycle you could smell the charcoal and sulfurous coal of an operational kiln from a half-mile away. And then there's the fact that you have to mine or obtain large quantities of clay of a certain type or quality depending on the type of pottery and ceramic goods you are producing. Did the clay come from local mining operations or was some of it being imported from elsewhere in the colonies?
It wasnt hidden at all, local government officials were protecting it as described in the video.
@@scottabc72 , well yes, but surely there were some Crown loyalists in the area.....
@@goodun2974 This was decades before the revolution, probably everyone involved considered themselves 'loyal' to the crown. In legal terms it was basically just corruption.
Lance, is there any relationship between "the Poor Potter of Yorktown" and the other famous Americans with the surname Rogers?
We know little about William Rogers as a person, even his birthplace is a matter of speculation. Thus it is difficult to tie him to other people with the same surname.
I didn't know that pottery was made this country thank you for letting me know about the history of pottery
Who was the "Mad Potter of Biloxi"? Some artist state he was the world's greatest potter.
That was George Ohr. Turn of the 20th Century. A hermit artist of the late Reconstruction and SpanAm to Teddy Roosevelt era
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The creation of parallel institutions is necessary for secession.
I think a shovel maker had a role in the revolution too.
Watch it be this channel I learned that on. Lol
Imagine having your last name being Gooch lol
Perhaps Gooch disparaged the potter in order to prevent the British government from putting an end to it.
Perhaps proving that it is never too early "speak a wee bit o treason" . Borrowed from the movie The Quiet Man
I like Isekai and Time-Travel so i wonder
oddly-specific this: Whats the best production-method for porcellan that is do-able if you get transported with modern knowledge into ancient Time??
I think the Potter missing from the record and the quality and scale is his business were arranged that way by the “poor potter.” likely he didn't realize he’d be important to the history and nearly forgot by history so well did he throw Britain off his scent. Likely he wouldn't care much. He seems an immensely practical man much more concerned with the day's chores and profit than with posterity.
One of the oldest technologies and still up there as an important technology.
Anyone else hearing a hiss and pop in the audio?
For some reason I thought this was about a pottery revolution, like how pottery changed us as a species.
Hello! There's a bit of audio artifacts in this one.
So was this basically his way of tax evasion? Was Gooch getting a cut of the profits in exchange for under-reporting the pottery business to the crown?
you are very prolific, so I skip a lot, but this I had to hear
heads up your videos are huge, something to do with the format uploaded before youtube compression
Like the poor Billionaires of today.
Interesting that Britain required trade be carried in British registered ships was one of the reasons that led to the American Revolution. These United States still does the same thing in some cases. Of course the Federal government is even more tyrannical now than that of King George III in the 18th Century was and Americans are even more heavily taxed now than they were before the Revolution. Where are John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, et al now when we need them more than before?
46th, 9 January 2023
Wooden shovels, would have been enough BS, for me to paint Red Coats red all over....
Be wary of the Waltons in life. They sneak up on you.
I don't care what you've done or haven't done, with a name like that you only being remembered for one thing.
Good night 24 hours later
Falsified reports: When history deserves to be misremembered 😂
I think it would be interesting to have you cover cannabis. It has such a long history. And it is intertwined into American history.
So, he was dirt poor?😃
This is not the pottery you are looking for.
I relish all evidence of the brewers and their art which sparked the 'spirit' of 1776.
fantastic. love your show.