I truly love that, as someone who is modeled after the Speaker, Lucifer's skills here are also Symphony X references. (Premonition, Absence of Light, and Seven are all taken directly, and I believe "Of Innocence" is short for The End of Innocence)
Lucifer’s Paradise Lost makes Lucio’s and Sandalphon’s look like bootlegs in comparison. I mean, ignoring the live2d part of Sandalphon’s paradise lost.
@@mochii813 Not really. Lorewise, Lucifer and Lucillius is a carbon copy of Lucio, otherwise known as Helel Ben Sahar who in turn serves Bahamut. Another occurrence of this if Beelzebub being a copy of Helel Ben Shalem
@@aokyoutsuki7744 Actually, in Versus game it's pretty much acknowledged that Bubs IS singularity. So he's not a wannabe singularity, he is a singularity like Djeeta and Gran.
Well now would you look at that... The sierotix I reserved for either Galleon, Belial, Beelzebub or Grace (depending from which one gets released first) is in danger now uh?
@@omega197 I think we will also get another summon from the same series that babu, belial and lucifer are, LUCILIUS SUMMON, just so we get the 3 antagonists trio summons, so we can basically get danchou, Sandy, Lucio, Lucifer, and Lucilius Paradise Lost all together
So I reviewed and compared Lucifer and Lucio’s skills for the halibut and they have very little in common outside of Shield, Refresh vs Revitalize, Debuff resistance and damage immunity for one turn (something Lucio only has on his summer unit). Lucifers Revitalize and Debuff resistance are also on a single skill versus Lucios refresh and Debuff resistance being on skill 1 and skill 3 respectively. I haven’t seen them move skills up to a single skill for any other character, so that would be a first as far as I can tell if this is 5* Lucio. In shorter words, all signs point to Lucifer being his own unit.
Hopefully future Lucio *5 upgrades will give an identity of his own from lucifer. Because at this point, it seemed hard to see the point to deploy both of them outside memes. Although i wouldnt be surprised if they add emergency upgrade to lucio like how they did during 000 when sandy gets FLB
Its a scripted battle, skills effects are typically changed for that reason, his skill animations fit grand lucio 1st being the stamina-all party boost shield, second being an attack skill 3rd being a selfish boost, the animation and skill order line up too well so while the effects dont fit, i consider it changed solely to fit this fight
@@omega197 I feel like Lucifer will be on Flash Gala because Sandalphon is there. It might be confusing for new players since he and Lucio look so similar though. Oh well
if this Lucifer is release during the Gala do you think i can put my Lucio in the same team i mean technically they are a different Characters so to speak.
wait does this mean we can obtain him at future gala, I mean that would be dope please include baldr with it hhe looked cool; also maybe comos, or at least be a call or what not.
We'll found out two days from now. Baldr is not out of option since crew can just suddenly found his core out of nowhere on his intro Fate episode if the devs wills it. I mean, look how they make enyo playable when lorewise her core's damaged post athena flb.
For one, it would be rude to Lucifer fans to make this 5* lucio. Secondly, the kit is way too different to be a Lucio 5*. Outside of the obvious things like the skill names and icons all being different from Lucio’s (it would be different if it was one or two, but it’s all of them), as William said in a different comment their kits are very different. I checked every 5 starred unit released and the common thing they do with 5 stars is improve on what’s already there, not change this many aspects of it.
@@pathetic2399 Occasionally they do change everything, but they do that either through a passive or skill that fundamentally changes the gameplan(eg gives them a big move to work towards, or something that just upheaves the dynamic like auto-skills), or they performed a major Rebalance on the base character immediately prior to the 5* release However none of that fits this because the kit is JUST close enough to Lucio's to not be a meaningful Rebalance, usually reworks either patch up outdated buttons mechanically(change buffs/debuffs to modern iterations, change things that just don't work anymore, etc_, or overhaul the character into being a real concept like Auto-Skills or Crests or Stackable DoT synergy rather than "iunno Break assassin????" or whatever other year 2 duds are still floating around This wouldn't suit that Still waiting Cygames, also where's my fox, free her from her eldritch monster depression prison
Short answer: no Long answer: Lucio was a servant of bahamut originally named as Helel ben shahar. Bahamut creates a copy of him to thrive in astral realm (Lucillius). Lucillius, the perfectionist Rick Sanchez level of scientist he is, Instinctually know who lucio is on his birth, so he creates Lucifer the ultimate primal beast to complete out the odds. Bahamut, pleased with how lucifer fares, decides to give helel ben shahar the form of lucifer out of nowhere. Then Shahar with this lucifer form goes around the world with guise name of lucio then joins the crew sometime in. Lucifer get so many retcons in gbf, perhaps back in end of 2016, Lucio was genuinely Lucifer in guises, but in order to match with WMTSB content, they make him into new different character entirely that revealed in WMTSB 3. Unless you're asking about playstyle, Well-- Lucio have his personal wing stack, while lucifer have more offensive stuff like Double strike, Auto nukes and even S4 Omniheal button, granted lucio was kinda outdated nowadays.
@@omega197Question... Bahamut gave lucio the likeness of lucifer? Is that correct? Because I thought it was lucilius giving lucifer the likeness of lucio, If so can you please tell me what chapter in the game or event did it occur?
@@marcusfullon4159 Pretty sure his source is "I made it the fuck up" because the only thread for that is that Lucio's "true" form of Helel doesn't have the Luci-face, but also the only time we've seen that face he was trying to avoid us connecting the dots between Helel Ben Sahar and Lucio The Crewmate The funnier thing is that Bahamut has been leaving Lucio on Read meanwhile this showed he picked up Lucifer's calls centuries ago, despite Lucifer just being Some Dude effectively
Too bad he’ll never be playable cause spoilers Hes dead. Ngl i forgot he was dead during the event. And for people saying fantasy character, from what ive read, they dont plan to make fantasy versions of characters that dont already have a playable version. And before you ask, freezie is a special case as she was shoved into line before it became a thing.
@@tatiana2696 i dont see fantasy on enyo so your point? her fate episodes also explain how shes able to join the crew (she isnt dead) so whats your argument?
Not liking the event for an anniversary celebration in the slightest, but its cool that they're hinting at playable Lucifer and Baldr is pretty dope. This just feels like a regular story event with pretty poor pacing at the beginning
Honestly I think it's fine. Not every Anni hqs to be a big epic culmination of everything. The fact it builds upon Primals, something that's been in the game since day one, it's pretty good
Honestly, same. Kinda. The Baldr stuff was super drawn out and I didn’t care about him until he got sad about Madl and Konah and went to sleep. I also don’t like that it was advertised to be about Zooey and Geo and we really aren’t getting anything about them until part 3 of the event. It was just a very strange all over the place kind of event so far but at least we’re getting playable Lucifer out of it. I also liked the flashback sequences with him and Cosmos and how they influenced the sky realm. It was nice to flesh out his character a little more.
Hard to say There are many of his kits that directly different from lucio Like his S3 echo is only 20% in with assassin No Six wing stack mechanic Different ougi effect
@@omega197 expanding on this, outside of his kit doing different things, cosmetically the kit is also completely different. All the skill names are different as are all the icons. With previous 5 starred characters they would only change one or two or the icons to make the kit look more cohesive (see Grand Io and Izmir for examples) and very rarely change skill names. They’ve never done a complete cosmetic revamp of a kit in this way, and I doubt that they would do it to Lucio since visually his skill icons look cohesive, which points to it being playable Lucifer.
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"Will i ever finish my Grid?"
0:58
STOP 😂
Bahamut when Lucio and Lucilius ask it questions: I sleep
Lucifer ask question: I'm awake, let's brawl MF!
0:58
"Will fire ever get a tier 10 grand unit like the other elements?"
This aged well lmao
@@zega3350 we got two grand fire back to back!
We do have Michael
Now we have Grand Zeta :))
we got like 3 now
I just realized now that even Lucifer keeps up the trend of naming moves after Symphony X songs which I think is neat.
I truly love that, as someone who is modeled after the Speaker, Lucifer's skills here are also Symphony X references.
(Premonition, Absence of Light, and Seven are all taken directly, and I believe "Of Innocence" is short for The End of Innocence)
seeing that, is just... wow
Breathtaking
2023 anniversary trailer already out but not a single sign of Lucifer will be playable
Lucifer’s Paradise Lost makes Lucio’s and Sandalphon’s look like bootlegs in comparison. I mean, ignoring the live2d part of Sandalphon’s paradise lost.
I mean lorewise isn't that kinda accurate?
@@mochii813 lorewise Lucio's isn't the bootlegs one since he is the actual God(Bahamut)'s right hand along with Shalem
@@mochii813 Not really. Lorewise, Lucifer and Lucillius is a carbon copy of Lucio, otherwise known as Helel Ben Sahar who in turn serves Bahamut.
Another occurrence of this if Beelzebub being a copy of Helel Ben Shalem
This comment really aged like milk
Grand Light Sandalphon says hello.
Beelzebub is the destructive singularity, while Gran is the saving one.
basically
Djeeta would like a word
A bit late, beelzebub is just a wannabe, a person who thinks he is when he is not
@@aokyoutsuki7744 Actually, in Versus game it's pretty much acknowledged that Bubs IS singularity. So he's not a wannabe singularity, he is a singularity like Djeeta and Gran.
Bubs is like more destructive singularity opposite of Gran and djeeta @@aokyoutsuki7744
Well now would you look at that...
The sierotix I reserved for either Galleon, Belial, Beelzebub or Grace (depending from which one gets released first) is in danger now uh?
Personally, i'd say belial and bubsan still a higher priority if you have the sunlight stock ready
Either way hopefully you get him in free rolls
@@omega197 Unfortunately I'm not in a good position with sunlights so yeah. Thanks though, hope you'll get him through the free rolls as well.
still waiting :'( please be playable
Still yet no Lucifer on our sight. And it was no Lucio flb animations too. :o
I have been saving and waiting for Lucifer ever since that One Event!
Good for you mate.
Hope the gacha weapon ougi is paradise lost so danchou, lucio, lucifer and sandalphon can go all out together
@@omega197 summon a luci against faa event before he hits 25% and boom, 6 PLs in one freaking turn 😂
@@omega197 I think we will also get another summon from the same series that babu, belial and lucifer are, LUCILIUS SUMMON, just so we get the 3 antagonists trio summons, so we can basically get danchou, Sandy, Lucio, Lucifer, and Lucilius Paradise Lost all together
@@FenLupimo This aged well, Triple Zero is Sandy and Faa-san
So I reviewed and compared Lucifer and Lucio’s skills for the halibut and they have very little in common outside of Shield, Refresh vs Revitalize, Debuff resistance and damage immunity for one turn (something Lucio only has on his summer unit). Lucifers Revitalize and Debuff resistance are also on a single skill versus Lucios refresh and Debuff resistance being on skill 1 and skill 3 respectively. I haven’t seen them move skills up to a single skill for any other character, so that would be a first as far as I can tell if this is 5* Lucio. In shorter words, all signs point to Lucifer being his own unit.
Hopefully future Lucio *5 upgrades will give an identity of his own from lucifer.
Because at this point, it seemed hard to see the point to deploy both of them outside memes.
Although i wouldnt be surprised if they add emergency upgrade to lucio like how they did during 000 when sandy gets FLB
@@omega197 Yeah it'd be nice if they make Lucio's FLB be him turning into Helel ben Sahar.
@@jinhell3256 Unlimited heals go brrr
Its a scripted battle, skills effects are typically changed for that reason, his skill animations fit grand lucio 1st being the stamina-all party boost shield, second being an attack skill 3rd being a selfish boost, the animation and skill order line up too well so while the effects dont fit, i consider it changed solely to fit this fight
And now, ladies and gentlemen...
LUCIO FLB IS REAL
THE COLORFUL AUTONUKE AT THE END OF TURN IS REAAALLL TAT
Such epic event... Many things happens.. Many tears... And Geo dont even appear yet
We'll see what mindblowing stuff in part 3 soon enough
Cosmos with lowermask have yet to debut too
Eight months later
Surely lucifer or flb lucio will be out soon right? Surely
it's been 6 years, a frickin 6 YEARS! since he was released
FLB Lucio coming soon boi
2:41 ok...maybe another fantasy series chara
Man end of march legfest is gonna crash the server
@@omega197 I feel like Lucifer will be on Flash Gala because Sandalphon is there. It might be confusing for new players since he and Lucio look so similar though. Oh well
if this Lucifer is release during the Gala do you think i can put my Lucio in the same team i mean technically they are a different Characters so to speak.
Ehh why the hell not.
Itd be fun to see sandalphon be tormented with 2 supreme primarch
Hell, hopefully cygames put RoB!Lucifer too someday
@@omega197 Lucio isn’t a supreme Primarch. He’s a speaker p:
@@pathetic2399 well i guess 2 lucis would be more suitable term : p
new light FLB char, but it's gawain instead of lucio getting this skill set
why are we still here, just to suffer?
Throwback to the biggest troll in all of GBF...
Why cant they even make this a paid skin 🫠
Anyone know the OST playing in the background
Voice of god
Time to cope 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
So they basically gave Lucio everything from this kit but better lol. Now give us this sprite as skin.
wait does this mean we can obtain him at future gala, I mean that would be dope please include baldr with it hhe looked cool; also maybe comos, or at least be a call or what not.
We'll found out two days from now.
Baldr is not out of option since crew can just suddenly found his core out of nowhere on his intro Fate episode if the devs wills it.
I mean, look how they make enyo playable when lorewise her core's damaged post athena flb.
He'll come eventually
end of the year Lmao
@@FenLupimo I'm as high on copium as Jesse was in that one scene in S2
no
@@mrluthfians01 it still hurts
One day…
will there be a lucifer character or at least 5* uncap lucio? i hope we find answers to this soon :)
Chances i think are this will be a different unit from lucio.
And lucio flb will have different kit to suit his Shahar form.
For one, it would be rude to Lucifer fans to make this 5* lucio. Secondly, the kit is way too different to be a Lucio 5*. Outside of the obvious things like the skill names and icons all being different from Lucio’s (it would be different if it was one or two, but it’s all of them), as William said in a different comment their kits are very different. I checked every 5 starred unit released and the common thing they do with 5 stars is improve on what’s already there, not change this many aspects of it.
different unit dear ❤️
any speculating ideas on when will this be released if so or will it be released? many thanks :)
@@pathetic2399 Occasionally they do change everything, but they do that either through a passive or skill that fundamentally changes the gameplan(eg gives them a big move to work towards, or something that just upheaves the dynamic like auto-skills), or they performed a major Rebalance on the base character immediately prior to the 5* release
However none of that fits this because the kit is JUST close enough to Lucio's to not be a meaningful Rebalance, usually reworks either patch up outdated buttons mechanically(change buffs/debuffs to modern iterations, change things that just don't work anymore, etc_, or overhaul the character into being a real concept like Auto-Skills or Crests or Stackable DoT synergy rather than "iunno Break assassin????" or whatever other year 2 duds are still floating around
This wouldn't suit that
Still waiting Cygames, also where's my fox, free her from her eldritch monster depression prison
May I ask if Lucio = Lucifer?
Short answer: no
Long answer: Lucio was a servant of bahamut originally named as Helel ben shahar.
Bahamut creates a copy of him to thrive in astral realm (Lucillius).
Lucillius, the perfectionist Rick Sanchez level of scientist he is, Instinctually know who lucio is on his birth, so he creates Lucifer the ultimate primal beast to complete out the odds.
Bahamut, pleased with how lucifer fares, decides to give helel ben shahar the form of lucifer out of nowhere. Then Shahar with this lucifer form goes around the world with guise name of lucio then joins the crew sometime in.
Lucifer get so many retcons in gbf, perhaps back in end of 2016, Lucio was genuinely Lucifer in guises, but in order to match with WMTSB content, they make him into new different character entirely that revealed in WMTSB 3.
Unless you're asking about playstyle, Well-- Lucio have his personal wing stack, while lucifer have more offensive stuff like Double strike, Auto nukes and even S4 Omniheal button, granted lucio was kinda outdated nowadays.
@@omega197 that was a long yet informative answer, thank you, Danchou.
@@omega197Question... Bahamut gave lucio the likeness of lucifer? Is that correct? Because I thought it was lucilius giving lucifer the likeness of lucio, If so can you please tell me what chapter in the game or event did it occur?
@@marcusfullon4159 Pretty sure his source is "I made it the fuck up" because the only thread for that is that Lucio's "true" form of Helel doesn't have the Luci-face, but also the only time we've seen that face he was trying to avoid us connecting the dots between Helel Ben Sahar and Lucio The Crewmate
The funnier thing is that Bahamut has been leaving Lucio on Read meanwhile this showed he picked up Lucifer's calls centuries ago, despite Lucifer just being Some Dude effectively
Too bad he’ll never be playable cause spoilers
Hes dead. Ngl i forgot he was dead during the event. And for people saying fantasy character, from what ive read, they dont plan to make fantasy versions of characters that dont already have a playable version. And before you ask, freezie is a special case as she was shoved into line before it became a thing.
Lmao. Nice argument but one word-
*Enyo*
that's a stupid argument lmao
@@tatiana2696 i dont see fantasy on enyo so your point? her fate episodes also explain how shes able to join the crew (she isnt dead) so whats your argument?
@@Gweniepoo776 ok, then give me a good one, cant just call mine stupid when you dont even have one
@@volcanicviper5984 Ah yes, the Internet obligation to argue with strangers I forgot about that xd
Not liking the event for an anniversary celebration in the slightest, but its cool that they're hinting at playable Lucifer and Baldr is pretty dope. This just feels like a regular story event with pretty poor pacing at the beginning
Hopefully part 3 will have baldr appearance on present time
Honestly I think it's fine. Not every Anni hqs to be a big epic culmination of everything. The fact it builds upon Primals, something that's been in the game since day one, it's pretty good
Honestly, same. Kinda. The Baldr stuff was super drawn out and I didn’t care about him until he got sad about Madl and Konah and went to sleep. I also don’t like that it was advertised to be about Zooey and Geo and we really aren’t getting anything about them until part 3 of the event. It was just a very strange all over the place kind of event so far but at least we’re getting playable Lucifer out of it. I also liked the flashback sequences with him and Cosmos and how they influenced the sky realm. It was nice to flesh out his character a little more.
What is that? Lucio *5?
Hard to say
There are many of his kits that directly different from lucio
Like his S3 echo is only 20% in with assassin
No Six wing stack mechanic
Different ougi effect
@@omega197 Newest Light grand unit on tomorrow banner?
@@fool2play915 usually on 17-19th
@@omega197 hmmmm
@@omega197 expanding on this, outside of his kit doing different things, cosmetically the kit is also completely different. All the skill names are different as are all the icons. With previous 5 starred characters they would only change one or two or the icons to make the kit look more cohesive (see Grand Io and Izmir for examples) and very rarely change skill names. They’ve never done a complete cosmetic revamp of a kit in this way, and I doubt that they would do it to Lucio since visually his skill icons look cohesive, which points to it being playable Lucifer.
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