A breath of fresh air of a review that has a short docu segment in it. Not just the average image sample comparison, noise and dynamic range tests which is important too but.
Watching this, not once I thought about the camera... Who gives a crap about a camera when you have a story... There are no bad cameras anymore... Good job Johnnie: started with strong emotion - had my attention right away. Well done!
The doc is so nice, images clean and vibrant, the subject Tuoyu she's such a joy and so loveable. Johnnie thanks so much for finding these little gems, you're a master of the craft.
"When you have lots of options...you have no options." That is such a powerful line. Thank you for another great video/doc. I've been a fan since the Sony A7S2 days-- still remember the review/doc from that camera review as well too.
Well, I didn't expect to find the mini-doc. Turns out it was the best possible way to sell me on this camera. So many other repetitive summaries on YT. Here is something different (and better). Well done!
Fantastic mini-documentary and engaging portrait of a young immigrant. Recommend you give it more of an ending and post separately from this camera review. So great!
I'm just here for the mini doc. I always enjoy your intimate portraits of people that I think I'd like to know better. This is one of the best yet. Well done!! The R5's are a better fit for me but this appears to be a solid release from Canon.
What wonderful content you share with us - thank you. The mini documentaries are beautifully crafted and are far more engaging than the actual gear reviews (but those are appreciated too).
The CineD approach to camera reviews are so helpful and informative because you include mini docs in the video. Which is a great way of seeing the camera in real world situations. I'm surprised more creators don't add some kind of narrative demonstration in their reviews. It's a priceless means of bringing so much more depth to what may otherwise be a stale review that looks like every other review. Great work! CineD FTW!
Thank you for the informative review and the great pictures! I am very interested in this camera. You briefly mentioned that working with the RAW files in Premiere Pro was problematic. Is it possible to work smoothly here? Also in combination with the SD cards. I work daily in Premiere with ProRes files from SSDs on a Mac and it works very well and quickly.
The only downside with Johnnie Behiri's sample mini-doc footage is that they are so damned interesting, that one gets so engrossed in the story that you forget to check the image quality in various scenarios of the camera! Johnnie is a master at his craft. There again, the camera must be good as it didn't detract from the storytelling and any camera that can do that consistently in various light and stability modes (tripod, handheld etc) then that camera must be a win. This camera is very tempting even for someone like myself who has invested into the Sony ecosystem.
Do you consider interpolation from 6k to 4k to be the best solution to increase the density of color information, since information from neighboring pixels is combined into one channel?
I dont understand how im supposed to properly expose an image if theres not a viewfinder on a camera but thats a great piece of kit, and a very wonderful documentary subject.
Hey. Step 1: If you have access to DaVinci Resolve, then import the audio file to it and apply "voice isolation" to about 50% (This will ensure keeping the voice natural). Step 2: Use the "equalizer" to boost bass (Just a little) and that's it!
It's ridiculous not to have any full-frame modes over 30fps. Is it possible with an external recorder like Atomos and is it possible to record over USB to an external drive with higher frame rates and codecs? RAW. RAW HQ?
WHAT A WONDERFUL DOCUMENTARY…. WOW compliment for you and the Lady!! Will the EF-RF 0.71x Mount Adapter (used on the (my) C70) still be usefull? And will the C80 record MP4 (in case needed…) Thank you for an answer…
You could use that adapter, but you'd have to put the C80 in Super35 mode. Since the C80 has a full frame sensor, you could simply get an RF to EF adapter (standard, control ring, or drop-in filter style) and get the true full frame field of view from your EF lenses.
I feel that C-Log 3 is enabling me to be less precise with exposure. As a "one-man band" having the camera for a limited time, next to a very tight self editing/coloring schedule,, it was the right thing to do. Thank you.
10:55 video in front of the window, in this place the c70 would have coped better despite the fact that the difference in the dynamic range is minimal. The details outside the window would be visible.
This voiceover of her crying caught me pretty much off guard. Well it´s a good camera but this short really shows the filmmaker is worth the money not the gear.
I think there should be no video camera in 2024 cant shoot full frame in no less than 60fps. i still find FX6 is more practical than C400 or C80. I don't like having different frame rate having different resolution, codec and fov. Other than Fullframe, 6K and Triple ISO this camera is cripple hammer.
Ummm it’s nice but the best value for money cinema cameras have and will remain the pocket cinema cameras until one of these brands releases a legit cinema camera with internal raw and pro-res for under 2k
2024 and no cf express b slot? Sd media prevents this camera from future updates with high bit rate raw video, I don't understand this, it kills this camera for me, canon raw light is just not good enough. All those good things ruined using old crappy media, canon needs to stop price gating features, this thing should have an option but studios like mine but I'll pass and go with the blackmagic pyxis.
Ive not been following the C70 as HDMI only and S35 with no RF s35 zoom to match made it a 'problem child'. Full frame, the 24-105 and 28-80 lenses make this very appealing. I guess the AF is a bit more sticky than my C200. Thats a big deal :)
Too sharp, aliasing in the hair, harsh highlights.. where? On a 5k display I see none of this. Aliasing can show up on just about any 4k footage if it's played back on a low resolution display.
If it’s again more than 2k, it simply can’t be suited for broke indie filmmakers. With that money you film a professional short movie with your phone. Dollar for dollar- my C100 beats it in value.
A breath of fresh air of a review that has a short docu segment in it. Not just the average image sample comparison, noise and dynamic range tests which is important too but.
Watching this, not once I thought about the camera... Who gives a crap about a camera when you have a story... There are no bad cameras anymore... Good job Johnnie: started with strong emotion - had my attention right away. Well done!
Thank you for taking the time to watch the mini-doc! Part of conducting those mini-docs is emphasizing "storytelling" over "equipment".
The doc is so nice, images clean and vibrant, the subject Tuoyu she's such a joy and so loveable. Johnnie thanks so much for finding these little gems, you're a master of the craft.
Great work friend like always. I Love the Tuoyu story.
I love these mini docs. Beautiful images, interesting people and story, just everything that makes it interesting to watch.
Thank you. Much appreciated!
Your image demos with short documentary are in a league of their own. Everyone else B-roll of flowers and walls!!!
"When you have lots of options...you have no options." That is such a powerful line. Thank you for another great video/doc. I've been a fan since the Sony A7S2 days-- still remember the review/doc from that camera review as well too.
Well, I didn't expect to find the mini-doc. Turns out it was the best possible way to sell me on this camera. So many other repetitive summaries on YT. Here is something different (and better). Well done!
very nice work and seamless documentary test video.
Thank You, Johnnie! Your storytelling is just wonderful as usual.
Fantastic mini-documentary and engaging portrait of a young immigrant. Recommend you give it more of an ending and post separately from this camera review. So great!
I'm just here for the mini doc. I always enjoy your intimate portraits of people that I think I'd like to know better. This is one of the best yet. Well done!! The R5's are a better fit for me but this appears to be a solid release from Canon.
What wonderful content you share with us - thank you. The mini documentaries are beautifully crafted and are far more engaging than the actual gear reviews (but those are appreciated too).
As always, thank you Sam! Tuoyu is an engaging person and therefore my job was easy this time :)
Excellent breakdown video my brother. Extremely informative and easily digestible.
Kudos for the beautiful images in this mini documentary!!
Thank you. Much a ppreciated!
Nice job on that doc!
The image quality from this camera is insane.
We are so incredibly spoiled as creators nowadays!!!!!
Makes it difficult to choose 😂
@@PeacefulMoments1844 FRFR
A good problem to have, I guess LOL
Wonderful and heartfelt mini documentary, and very nice initial review of Canon’s new cinema camera. Many thanks. 😊👍
Nice overall video! Loved the mini documentary!
Wow, it looks like Canon finally put the cripple hammer away and made something exceptional. Good job.
The CineD approach to camera reviews are so helpful and informative because you include mini docs in the video. Which is a great way of seeing the camera in real world situations. I'm surprised more creators don't add some kind of narrative demonstration in their reviews. It's a priceless means of bringing so much more depth to what may otherwise be a stale review that looks like every other review. Great work! CineD FTW!
the DOC is the centrepiece here. Great job, I forgot about the C80
If you forgot about the camera, then my job is complete 😉
Very nice work and choice of content 👍
Thank you for the informative review and the great pictures! I am very interested in this camera. You briefly mentioned that working with the RAW files in Premiere Pro was problematic. Is it possible to work smoothly here? Also in combination with the SD cards. I work daily in Premiere with ProRes files from SSDs on a Mac and it works very well and quickly.
CineD..... love you good work .
Thank you, John. Much appreciated!
Great mini doc and the C80 really shines.
Incredible offering from Canon.
nice review. Thanks!
Although you'd be missing out on the higher frame rate for stunning slow motion and internal ND filters along with the robust build of the C400.
I came, I saw, I enjoyed.
Open Gate for anamorphic would be a fantastic addition. We shoot RED, Canon and Nikon. Sometimes Arri as well.
Beautiful doc. What lenses did you use in it?
Thank you! I used the Canon RF 24-105mm f/2.8:
awesome. beautiful mini doc. one thing immediately noticeable is lack of ibis. micro jitters are present
Awesome, do you have any labtest coming up for this?
We will. We just need to confirm that we are dealing with the final firmware installed.
The only downside with Johnnie Behiri's sample mini-doc footage is that they are so damned interesting, that one gets so engrossed in the story that you forget to check the image quality in various scenarios of the camera! Johnnie is a master at his craft. There again, the camera must be good as it didn't detract from the storytelling and any camera that can do that consistently in various light and stability modes (tripod, handheld etc) then that camera must be a win. This camera is very tempting even for someone like myself who has invested into the Sony ecosystem.
Thank you Andrew for taking the time to watch the mini-doc. Appreciated!
Do you consider interpolation from 6k to 4k to be the best solution to increase the density of color information, since information from neighboring pixels is combined into one channel?
I wonder if Canon will make a viewfinder for their multi-function shoe.
Great video,I use resolve for my video editing
Tell me, did they add to the camera the function of saving and quickly displaying all my user settings, including settings for multiple microphones?
can it do 4K open gate 120 fps?
I dont understand how im supposed to properly expose an image if theres not a viewfinder on a camera but thats a great piece of kit, and a very wonderful documentary subject.
@@chrisw443 use the big screen on the back and the multitude of exposure tools available in the camera.
Of course Canon had to sabotage the C80 by leaving out a CFExpressB card slot and limiting 6k to 30fps
If it had those things, it would be a C400 and would cost more...
Hi! How did you get the DJI Mic 2 sounding so full, clear and loud audio for your documentary? Mine always sounds quiet and less pronounced.
Did you install the new update?
What does that do? and how do you install it?
The DJI Mic 2 sounds so crisp clear and loud in a good way! What is your audio capture and post-editing workflow?
Hey. Step 1: If you have access to DaVinci Resolve, then import the audio file to it and apply "voice isolation" to about 50% (This will ensure keeping the voice natural). Step 2: Use the "equalizer" to boost bass (Just a little) and that's it!
@@CineD How would you do it with Premiere Pro?
It's ridiculous not to have any full-frame modes over 30fps. Is it possible with an external recorder like Atomos and is it possible to record over USB to an external drive with higher frame rates and codecs? RAW. RAW HQ?
By the way, can I use HDMI for external recording to the recorder?
We assume that a leading company who is specializing in producing external recorders will announce such a possibility soon(ish)
How was the film lit ? Natural or
The quality is impressive and the colors 🔥
Natural and lit, depending on the scene.
WHAT A WONDERFUL DOCUMENTARY…. WOW compliment for you and the Lady!! Will the EF-RF 0.71x Mount Adapter (used on the (my) C70) still be usefull? And will the C80 record MP4 (in case needed…) Thank you for an answer…
You could use that adapter, but you'd have to put the C80 in Super35 mode. Since the C80 has a full frame sensor, you could simply get an RF to EF adapter (standard, control ring, or drop-in filter style) and get the true full frame field of view from your EF lenses.
@@RobRanney Thank you! I’ve got Some of those… with and without filters…. Take care!
WHy clog 3 and not c log 2?
I feel that C-Log 3 is enabling me to be less precise with exposure. As a "one-man band" having the camera for a limited time, next to a very tight self editing/coloring schedule,, it was the right thing to do. Thank you.
@@CineD I thought it was the other way around, Clog2 with wider DR allows more room to adjust exposure.
10:55 video in front of the window, in this place the c70 would have coped better despite the fact that the difference in the dynamic range is minimal. The details outside the window would be visible.
Unfortunately not
In testing I did CLOG 2 clips highlights at the same point on the C400 and C70 as well as C500ii. The C70 has slightly cleaner SHADOWS.
if you already go a camera you are happy with, dont need this one. from what i can tell the DGO sensor oft the 70/300 looked better to me
Wonderful, wonderful
Thank you. Much appreciated!
thanks
Does it have a cooling fan? does it overheat? unlimited record time?
Yes, it’s based on the c70 which has all those things. No overheating.
@@matt_berg_media awesome thanks matt.
Yes no and no. This is a real cinema camera with fans. They are meant to be used all day and all the time.
@@RayValdezPhotography ok thanks,
The first review I will watch would be yours. Showing exactly what the camera can do and not just rambling and spewing words to sell a product.
Nelson, you are too kind with words!
Surprised it doesn't take CF Express B
Cool.
They use 3:2 sensors on the C400 and this C80 but still do not offer open gate. Shame.
they need something for the c500 replacement.
$25K Sony Burano can't do open gate either.
This voiceover of her crying caught me pretty much off guard. Well it´s a good camera but this short really shows the filmmaker is worth the money not the gear.
lab test?
This or a Komodo X. . . .tough choice. . . (its not)
It is. But even with the K-X price drop, the C80 is still cheaper and it's Full Frame.
I think there should be no video camera in 2024 cant shoot full frame in no less than 60fps. i still find FX6 is more practical than C400 or C80. I don't like having different frame rate having different resolution, codec and fov. Other than Fullframe, 6K and Triple ISO this camera is cripple hammer.
C80 shoots oversampled full frame 4K 60p in xfavc.
Ummm it’s nice but the best value for money cinema cameras have and will remain the pocket cinema cameras until one of these brands releases a legit cinema camera with internal raw and pro-res for under 2k
everything is good except color science, when will canon learn how to make blackmagic/arri color science?
Personally, I love Canon's science. But in the end, it is very much of a personal taste and preference.
2024 and no cf express b slot? Sd media prevents this camera from future updates with high bit rate raw video, I don't understand this, it kills this camera for me, canon raw light is just not good enough. All those good things ruined using old crappy media, canon needs to stop price gating features, this thing should have an option but studios like mine but I'll pass and go with the blackmagic pyxis.
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Did you cover the basics? XLR? ND? HFR? assignable HFR buttons? Pre ROll, 10bit4kcompressed codec? Canon missed the viewfinder? a real shame.
Those features were to be found in the C70 already. Thank you
@@CineD So tell us that in a 10second introl. Not all are familiar with the C70 details.
@@sammorganmoore Thank you Sam! Taking an extra note here.
Ive not been following the C70 as HDMI only and S35 with no RF s35 zoom to match made it a 'problem child'. Full frame, the 24-105 and 28-80 lenses make this very appealing. I guess the AF is a bit more sticky than my C200. Thats a big deal :)
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Too sharp,alaising in the hair, harsh highlights. Not impressed.
Too sharp, aliasing in the hair, harsh highlights.. where? On a 5k display I see none of this. Aliasing can show up on just about any 4k footage if it's played back on a low resolution display.
If it’s again more than 2k, it simply can’t be suited for broke indie filmmakers. With that money you film a professional short movie with your phone. Dollar for dollar- my C100 beats it in value.