So I watched your video a few times, yes, it was that good. A few points. Ibis said the higher BB was for taller riders who have complained in the past that pedal strikes are a thing, plus they put shorter cranks stock. Those complaining about wanting larger chainstays, Ibis says when you add steeper STA with larger reach, is like added 25mm to a chainstay. For those who are saying the reach is too much, you can run a 170mm fork, which will shorten it, plus you can always run riser bars as have been the hot thing right now. Which also will shorten the rise. What many do not know... The frame is the same on the Ripmo/Ripley, What!?? Yes, the same. The difference is the clevis, rear shock and front fork. Ibis will sell the clevis separate and if you buy that and a shock and fork, you have 2 bikes. I would argue buying a fork and shock at about $1500 is cheaper than buying a new bike. I will be putting the 2025 Rockshox super deluxe ultimate with the XL Linear air can. I want it to feel like the vivid. Ok, that is it for now. Fantastic work Connor! Edit: By the way, you covered the frame being the same towards the end. How they did this magic I don't know...
Awesome review, I've been riding a Ripmo V2 in Utah for a couple years now on pretty much all the same trails in this review haha. It's never even crossed my mind to get something different as it just handles all kinds of riding so well.
Hey! Been watching your stuff for a while. Great job on the video quality, editing and content! I'm with you - I appreciate a lower BB, and maybe shorter cranks. Great stuff.
I like that you talked about bottom bracket height. It was informative. I ride mostly slower tech trails, so I would like that taller bottom bracket. Horses for courses. In past videos you used to talk about climbing tech vs climbing non tech. It would be cool if you kept doing that. As always, yours are the first reviews I look at.
@@ElderberryThee3rdMe neither..People argue differently - But the aesthetics of a bike are hugely important when you're spending your hard earned on a frame
Same frame two bikes. This seems to be a trend with other companies like WeAreOne and SCOR doing the same thing. I think the challenge for Ibis in doing this is that people have a pre-existing notion of what the Ripley should be. That’s not to say that it doesn’t ride good, it just is that they will be battling history and why people bought a Ripley in the past. Regardless, I would love to ride one. Sounds like a great ride!
Rocky Mountain had the same thing with their instinct and altitude - until this year anyways. I bought the altitude and had the extra suspension and shock mount. One bike = two bikes couldn’t be happier.
As a tall rider who rides XXL bikes (what is basically the XL for the new Ripmo) over chunky stuff, better BB clearance on wheelbases well into the 1325mm and up range is MASSIVELY appreciated. It's not just pedal strikes, it's clearance for actual high centering over obstacles/rocks.
@@bikersedge Fair enough! A lot of it probably comes down to the terrain we ride too. I do find on "smaller" trail bikes (130-140mm travel range) that usually are just over 1300mm wheelbase in my sizes, a static BB height of low 340s is generally decent. Below 340 starts to suck more. With bigger travel and wheelbases 1330-1350mm, it needs to be upper 340s minimum, but really 350+. (This is all with 170mm cranks, but I'm usually more concerned about actual BB clearance)
Thanks for another great review! When it comes to comparisons, I'm a little surprised that the Rail 29 hasn't been mentioned given their similarity on paper and how you frequently referenced the Ripmo V2 when you reviewed the Rail 29. I've owned both bikes, I built the Rail 29 more like an All Mountain bike vs an Enduro and put on a 160mm Fox 36 and a Float X shock. Both were fantastic bikes for trail/aggressive train duty, but as an all rounder I think I preferred the Rail. I'm very curious how the new Ripmo V3 would compare to the Rail 29.
I don’t think I’d really compare the V3 to the Rail anymore. The V3 has changed quite a bit and now easily surpasses the Rail in capability without feeling any less lively and fun.
After riding an ibis for a few years I actually wish all bikes used bushings. Just take the linkage apart, clean and regrease everything, and it's running like new. No pressing bearings in and out. I've done 5 full race seasons in mud and everything on my ripmo and have never had to change a bushing
Just got mine and your comments about the pedal strike issue is legit. Hits almost every time I climb over larger roots. Otherwise, this thing rides like a dream.
Production off the charts - fantastic review - Connor would you have an idea when the new Hightower is coming out? It’ll be the Ripmo or SCHT for me. Thx
Sorry, have disagree regarding the bb height. I think it's awesome what they did. Not only does it keep the center of gravity equal between sizes due to the longer wheelbase, like you mentioned, it also allows for taller people with longer legs to run longer crank arms. Not everyone is into the new fad of super short cranks ;)
Fair enough. I think a lot of it may have to do with the terrain you ride too. p.s. Overall, I like your quality of reviews and that you're not afraid to say the negatives, especially as a shop owner. Most shop reviews I take with a grain of salt as they sound like stereotypical sale promos that could be used for the manufacturers themselves.
@@ForeverBikesLtd Hey, thanks for the feedback. Of course, as a bike shop, we like to sell bikes, but more importantly, we like to sell the right bike to the right person, hence the honesty.
Thanks for posting this. Great review, and I really like the "Comparisons" section. Having demoed the previous gen Ripmo, that helped with context. I am curious, and perhaps this is for your next review on the Ripley, if the "gap" between the Ripley and Ripmo has been closed. From my demo rides, I always felt like the Ripley was too small, and the Ripmo was too big, for my trails and riding style. That's lead me to consider some other options like Transition Smuggler or even the Yeti SB140 LR. I would love to hear how the new Ripley compares to some of these other mid-travel trail bikes.
Hey thanks. Ripley review is coming soon. I think the gap hasn’t necessarily closed between the two. Rather both bikes have just shifted up the capability scale a bit.
I just bought a Ripley from you guys and absolutely love it! I am starting to look at my Ripmo build and what are your thoughts on running more enduro with a 170mm ZEB and Vivid ?
I’d probably just point you toward an HD6 at that point. If you aren’t sold on the MX I guess you could overbuild a Ripmo. A vivid isn’t going to make it feel more enduro but overforking and bumping up the stanchion size might a little bit.
Weight certainly isn’t everything- in fact it’s only a tiny component of how a bike rides. The Ripley climbs way better than a Ripmo and has a very unique ride quality.
@@bikersedge but other trail bikes are much lighter than the Ripley now. I get from Ibis doing a cost saving with less engineering to have 2 bikes with the same frame. The Yeti SB 160 is a pound heavier than the new Ripley frame. Thats a full blown enduro race bike. Thats my point…
@@frienduro24yep....I was waiting for the Ripley before I bought a bc40..Glad I went with the bc40..Sure ,it's more on the xc side but the geo is pretty aggressive considering it's caliber. Built it up with a 34 , ground control and a butcher , 4 pot xtr and a one up cockpit with riser bars..Thing is 26lbs in an XL and absolutely rips.. I definitely appreciate a lighter bike when a ton elevation is involved..
Nice review as always. Thanks! Just out of interest, if you would have to choose between the Hightower and the new Ripmo, which one would it be, and for what reason? Thanks in advance.
Thanks! This feels more fun and lively than the 140. The 140 feels more serious and racy. Both are good on the climbs but this might best the 140 by just a bit.
Big fan of your content here, congrats. I'm split between the new Bronson and the Ripmo (non mullet version). I ride a mix of flow and chunky trails, predominantly man made trails with some steeps. Can you suggest a pick? Thanks!
Man. Pretty torn myself between those. Kinda similar actually. If you’re on more flow and machine cut the Bronsons handling is really fun. The Ripmo is great overall.
Great review mate. Have you ever ridden a Norco sight? The older version, not the current high pivot. Pretty similar geo numbers to this, wonder how the two compare. Thanks
Great review! In the mullet setup, how similar do you think it would be to the Bronson? I assume the same with the Ripmo being the better climber because of the dw-link?
DW doesn't inherently pedal better than VPP, 4-bar, or any other platform. It just allows for different kinematics. I haven't ridden the Bronson so I can't make any comparisons.
Super good video, again. I bought after your review the 2022 Rallon. How would you compare the new Ripmo to the Rallon. I mean the Rallon is Enduro but as you said more an all mountain. Cheers
Nice review, compared to previous gen giant reign 146/160 travel you have ridden and reviewed is there any significant difference ? mostly in descending capabilities , thanks.
Similar category. I think the Ripmo feels a bit more playful and fun. I feels a little easier to get into the travel as well. Probably pretty close on the climbs.
Thanks for another great review! Seems like all brands are shifting their lineups to be more capable downhill. Very interested to see what you think of the Ripley. Hope they didn't make too capable at the expense of playful.
Great review!. Still love my Rippy V2 and I'll keep that as long as I can. Couldn't agree with you more on pedal strikes. It's all about ride technique. When kicking over rocks and stumps the pedal should be 45 minimum and A pedal strike actually kicks you up over the obstacle. On descents or rolling big obstacles my pedal strikes are always because I'm tired or not paying attention and I'm not keeping my pedals horizontal. Cornering and berms that outside pedal should be down, not the inside one. Comes with experience and Rider technique, not the height of the bottom bracket for me anyway.
Have you ridden a V2 ripmo that has been “ripley’d”? Have one with a 140mm 34 and 130 shock. It solves your liking low bottom bracket issue lol!! But fun as hell! Did a 10 crown race spacer that put the hta around 65.4
I had a Ripmo V2, and liked it a lot especially how it climbed. I sold it for a Hightower 3, which I've loved even more mainly due to the descending performance, and better body position it puts me in (higher stack, less extreme reach). How would you compare the HT3 vs Ripmo 3?
Pretty rad, other than one little detail: I bought my V1 Ripmo for $3,800 for a complete NX built (was $4200 retail). Now just the frame and shock are $3,700. I'm sure it's better than my 5yo V1, but is it TWICE as good?
How does it compare to the V3 hightower especially given the current SC factory sale? I am surprised you haven't done a V3 hightower review yet. Would love to see one.
I’m a late 40s rider with a bad neck too. My current bike causes me lots of pain, but I’ve ridden friend’s bikes and felt fine. Is it most likely the reach that causes the issue? On my own bike, I feel I’m too far stretched forward often times. I want to upgrade, but need to make an improvement here to keep riding.
In your Sentinel review, you called it a Ripmo from the future, and this new Ripmo is pretty darn close to the V2 Sentinel on paper. I’ll be really curious to see how this compares to the V3 Sentinel, whenever that comes out.
@@bikersedge How does this new ripmo compare to the current sentinel (I own one). You seemed to have quite a bit of time on the sentinel so you’re probably a good one to ask.
@@bikersedge what is your opinion on the ride quality of the 35mm vs 29-30? Would carbon rims at a wider size feel different than the stock aluminum rims?
Man, choosing a bike just becomes tougher and tougher. I was pretty set on a "big" bike, Megatower more specifically. But not sure I need so much bike, even though I'll mostly do bike park days (not any super tough stuff) - Do you think the Ripmo might be the ticket for me? Something I can still pedal at home on "normal" xc/light trail trails, and not be under-biked at the bike park? If I were to buy a megatower, my guess is i'd never even look that way when going out for a ride at home. I'd grab the xc bike 10/10 times. But the Ripmo might change that (also been looking at the new stumpy, and "enduro" it with some bigger components (zeb 160mm and vivid air)
I've been riding bike park stuff on this, and my Altitude. The Ripmo is faster and more fun just about everywhere except for the roughest stuff. That's where the Altitude shines. I'm a little torn myself, to be honest. I don't care a ton about pedaling performance. But from the sounds of it, you might care a bit. in that case the Ripmo could be really good for you.
@@bikersedge Thank you for the input. Yeah I honestly cant really decide for myself. What I think I want and what I probably need are two different things. However, I can get a MT frameset for about $2k off right now. So its just about $2k cheaper than altitude/stumpy/ripmo. So I might go for that. Probably wont use it at home, but hey, thats what my XC bike is for…
I have a V1 in an XL, although I’m very comfortable on it it has always felts just a tad long, and I mean a very small amount. But at 6’ I’m always in between sizes now. I’m interested in a frame swap, but I’m not sure if I should go with the new L or XM size. Or if it’s even worth the money to swap the frame over to the V3.
I think the sentinel feels a bit more biased toward the DH. It’s slacker and a bit more aggressive. This climbs better and is more fun. The sentinel tackles rough terrain better.
You said you had wrist and thumb issues. Have you tried the Ergon GA3? I just got those and can never go back to plain old round grips now, they seem archaic.
@@bikersedge Took a little getting used to them but after my ride today my hands didn't ache at all like they usually do. My hands never felt better after a ride, crazy.
You mentioned being a “princess” about your carbon bars and wrist/thumb issues. So what bars are you riding? What width and rise? And what grips (narrow or fat)? I notice you ride without gloves too.
@@bikersedge also riding the one ups. I went with fatter grips but I think that’s worse on my hands somehow causing me to grip harder. But I like gloves. So we can’t talk anymore (jk). Keep up the great videos. You do a good job. I’m tall like you so appreciate your perspective.
@@MichelBalik I mean if money was no object I’d have a million bikes. But I’d be completely happy having this as my only bike. Does it all pretty well.
In my opinion, bike companies should only make 2 Trailbikes; the 120/120mm Downcountry bike and the 150/160mm All-Mountain bike. So I'm 100% percent behind the new Ripmo. Specialized screwed up when they dumped the 150/160mm Stumpy Evo for the 145/150mm Stumpy.
I think the higher BB with larger frame sizes makes a big difference and is super smart. It's less about pedal strikes as at static bikes with the same BB will sit at the same height and more about break over as your wheelbase gets longer your brake over angle gets worse. Think Moab and Grand Junction where we constantly are going up and over rocks and the chainring is the thing that smacks the rock not my pedals and that's just due to the wheels being further apart. It's big brain Conner plus low BBs aren't that cool, Higher BBs just require more bike body separation to keep center of gravity over the traction. Lol the last part is just fluff but in actuality bet you couldn't tell the difference except when you don't chain ring a scary roll. :)
I get the higher-ground clearance argument. I'd just much rather have a lower BB for more stability out of a bike. Again, technique and timing will keep you from chain-ringing a rock.
@@bikersedge I live in Grand Junction nothing will save me from chain-ringing a rock. 😂 I'm a tall Giraffe as well and I find more stack a solid fix for a higher BB for more in the bike feel for those PC trails like Black Forest and Red Bull. Dakota Norton style lol.
I assure you it's not a skill issue. You can only unweight once every couple seconds. I can't live weightless. JS there is a reason this exists and it's not poor technique. Why doesn't Pivot slam all of their bikes? Why does Transition? it's location dependent. Ride a Sentinel in the Desert then ride a Switchblade one will be a shit load faster through the whole loop. Go ride Moore Fun on a low bike and tell me how you did.
So the Ripley and Ripmo use the same frame? So can the new Ripley be somehow converted to a Ripmo? I personally like the color options better on the new Ripley haha
Thats really tough - Neither one of them rides like the Oso. eBikes are so different in terms of ride quality. As far as the fit goes, the sizing on the Ripmo and Oso are more similar.
@@bikersedge i know what you mean- that weight low down and power from the motor changes things. Info on fit is helpful though- the Large Oso fits me like a damn glove off the shelf. None of the numbers are exact match but your info helps a lot. Thanks dude.
The Instinct feels more active both on the climbs and descents. I typically like 4 bar for staying active even while braking. That said, the Ripmo still does a good job of feeling good while on the brakes. The Ripmo feels a bit more lively and quick on the pedals.
@@bikersedge Second 16 of your video, where you show the bike and all the main measures sizes, angles, etc. it reads "150MM Rear wheel Travel"... You know more than me about bikes by far but that is not correct I believe. LOL
Definitely see the argument of get your skills and technique better but IMO higher BB for clearance it's an off road bike man we ain't riding road. Or Run shorter cranks but higher BB for sure man
@@bikersedge Thanks! Have you had a chance to ride the SX version of the new Trance X to throw that in the mix? It's probably "still" more trail. But I wonder if at that point your closer to the V2 Ripley with slightly better geo? :) I find it odd that they made the new Ripley "ride bigger" now that they have such a solid offering in the HD6. When they didn't have an Enduro bike everyone wanted a bigger Ripmo, but there wasn't a reason for that now...???
I haven't ridden the SX Trance X. I think the Ripley can ride a little bigger now because of the Exie. Previously, there was a big gap between the Ripley and Ripmo, and now it's a little closer.
Big fan of OneUp bars right now. Very complaint/flexy and easy on the hands. I have a few different sets with different rises to fine tune fit on each bike.
Hard to comment on the paint. I’ve only been riding it for a little over a month or so. It’s been extra dry this summer so all of our trails are dusty. This bike doesn’t seem to collect more than any other bike I have. Then again I don’t pay attention to that kind of stuff.
Don't think of it as "your" bottom bracket is higher. Think of it as their bottom bracket isn't as high. Sometimes smaller people can do things which bigger people can't and vice versa.
@@bikersedge 😁 I know I know… I think we had the same discussion on the Altitude review… thanks for the review, looking forward to the Ripley video although I think I have my favorite…
i cant wait until the internal frame storage is over and done with. Honestly i like the older versions better. this just reminds me of the cyber truck for some reason- goddy and to much
@@bikersedge Yeeeee Booiiiii give me another 5 years and ill be all over it. Take care out there and treat each ride like its the last. tomorrow is not guaranteed my friend
So damn good with your reviews and no one else is even close. 👍
Hey thanks! Really appreciate it.
Came here to say this. @bikersedge is hands down the best… best style, best footage, best breakdowns, most natural on camera.
@@Threeanddone Thanks for the kind words!
So I watched your video a few times, yes, it was that good. A few points. Ibis said the higher BB was for taller riders who have complained in the past that pedal strikes are a thing, plus they put shorter cranks stock. Those complaining about wanting larger chainstays, Ibis says when you add steeper STA with larger reach, is like added 25mm to a chainstay. For those who are saying the reach is too much, you can run a 170mm fork, which will shorten it, plus you can always run riser bars as have been the hot thing right now. Which also will shorten the rise. What many do not know... The frame is the same on the Ripmo/Ripley, What!?? Yes, the same. The difference is the clevis, rear shock and front fork. Ibis will sell the clevis separate and if you buy that and a shock and fork, you have 2 bikes. I would argue buying a fork and shock at about $1500 is cheaper than buying a new bike. I will be putting the 2025 Rockshox super deluxe ultimate with the XL Linear air can. I want it to feel like the vivid. Ok, that is it for now. Fantastic work Connor!
Edit: By the way, you covered the frame being the same towards the end. How they did this magic I don't know...
Your reviews are my favorite by far. Non biased and honest reviews. No marketing bs either. Thank you
Thanks! Glad you like them.
Yeahhh !!! The new rip is sick but that ripley is what I’m looking forward too.
Stoked for both. Don’t want to stop riding either one.
New Ripley video is out!
Awesome review, I've been riding a Ripmo V2 in Utah for a couple years now on pretty much all the same trails in this review haha. It's never even crossed my mind to get something different as it just handles all kinds of riding so well.
Great to hear!
You did a great job on this video pointing out some really key things. TO the point that your video stands out from the others. Great work Connor.
Thanks! I really appreciate the kind words!
Hey! Been watching your stuff for a while. Great job on the video quality, editing and content! I'm with you - I appreciate a lower BB, and maybe shorter cranks. Great stuff.
Hey thanks. Really appreciate that!
Great review - have watched this one and the Ibis HD about 3 times - so useful !
@@ArunMTB Thanks! glad you like them!
I like that you talked about bottom bracket height. It was informative. I ride mostly slower tech trails, so I would like that taller bottom bracket. Horses for courses. In past videos you used to talk about climbing tech vs climbing non tech. It would be cool if you kept doing that. As always, yours are the first reviews I look at.
Yeah your terrain will dictate that a bit. I can make sure to continue putting that info in.
Thank god they finally made these bikes looks nice. Hated the prior frames, just based purely on aesthetics.
The new frame style looks really nice.
They really did look goofy, could never get myself to even consider an ibis because of the looks
@@ElderberryThee3rdMe neither..People argue differently - But the aesthetics of a bike are hugely important when you're spending your hard earned on a frame
Same frame two bikes. This seems to be a trend with other companies like WeAreOne and SCOR doing the same thing. I think the challenge for Ibis in doing this is that people have a pre-existing notion of what the Ripley should be. That’s not to say that it doesn’t ride good, it just is that they will be battling history and why people bought a Ripley in the past. Regardless, I would love to ride one. Sounds like a great ride!
Rocky Mountain had the same thing with their instinct and altitude - until this year anyways. I bought the altitude and had the extra suspension and shock mount. One bike = two bikes couldn’t be happier.
It’s interesting how differently the two bikes ride considering they have the same frame.
As a tall rider who rides XXL bikes (what is basically the XL for the new Ripmo) over chunky stuff, better BB clearance on wheelbases well into the 1325mm and up range is MASSIVELY appreciated. It's not just pedal strikes, it's clearance for actual high centering over obstacles/rocks.
I typically ride XL with wheelbases near the 1300 mark. I’d take the lower BB every time.
@@bikersedge Fair enough! A lot of it probably comes down to the terrain we ride too. I do find on "smaller" trail bikes (130-140mm travel range) that usually are just over 1300mm wheelbase in my sizes, a static BB height of low 340s is generally decent. Below 340 starts to suck more. With bigger travel and wheelbases 1330-1350mm, it needs to be upper 340s minimum, but really 350+. (This is all with 170mm cranks, but I'm usually more concerned about actual BB clearance)
Thanks for another great review! When it comes to comparisons, I'm a little surprised that the Rail 29 hasn't been mentioned given their similarity on paper and how you frequently referenced the Ripmo V2 when you reviewed the Rail 29. I've owned both bikes, I built the Rail 29 more like an All Mountain bike vs an Enduro and put on a 160mm Fox 36 and a Float X shock. Both were fantastic bikes for trail/aggressive train duty, but as an all rounder I think I preferred the Rail. I'm very curious how the new Ripmo V3 would compare to the Rail 29.
I don’t think I’d really compare the V3 to the Rail anymore. The V3 has changed quite a bit and now easily surpasses the Rail in capability without feeling any less lively and fun.
So excited for this release! Have you had any concerns about the bushings vs bearings on the lower link? Thanks
It’s not something I think is noticeable in terms of ride quality.
After riding an ibis for a few years I actually wish all bikes used bushings. Just take the linkage apart, clean and regrease everything, and it's running like new. No pressing bearings in and out. I've done 5 full race seasons in mud and everything on my ripmo and have never had to change a bushing
Just got mine and your comments about the pedal strike issue is legit. Hits almost every time I climb over larger roots. Otherwise, this thing rides like a dream.
@@dc0623 I’d check your sag. Shouldn’t be smacking your pedals all that much.
Plus higher bb's allow the bike to be flicked from side-to-side quicker, for example, on tight switchbacks.
Production off the charts - fantastic review - Connor would you have an idea when the new Hightower is coming out?
It’ll be the Ripmo or SCHT for me.
Thx
Hey thanks!
I don’t have details on a new Hightower.
How would you compare to revel rail 29? Great review.
Terrific review as usual. When's the Ripley v5 review coming?
Couple of days
Sorry, have disagree regarding the bb height. I think it's awesome what they did. Not only does it keep the center of gravity equal between sizes due to the longer wheelbase, like you mentioned, it also allows for taller people with longer legs to run longer crank arms. Not everyone is into the new fad of super short cranks ;)
I'm not into really short cranks either. I Typically like 170-175. I'll still take a lower BB every day.
Fair enough. I think a lot of it may have to do with the terrain you ride too.
p.s. Overall, I like your quality of reviews and that you're not afraid to say the negatives, especially as a shop owner. Most shop reviews I take with a grain of salt as they sound like stereotypical sale promos that could be used for the manufacturers themselves.
@@ForeverBikesLtd Hey, thanks for the feedback. Of course, as a bike shop, we like to sell bikes, but more importantly, we like to sell the right bike to the right person, hence the honesty.
Nice review, good seeing you up on the Castle last week!
Hey Thanks! Lets get out for a spin sometime!
Perfect pedal strike analogy.
Thanks for posting this. Great review, and I really like the "Comparisons" section. Having demoed the previous gen Ripmo, that helped with context. I am curious, and perhaps this is for your next review on the Ripley, if the "gap" between the Ripley and Ripmo has been closed. From my demo rides, I always felt like the Ripley was too small, and the Ripmo was too big, for my trails and riding style. That's lead me to consider some other options like Transition Smuggler or even the Yeti SB140 LR. I would love to hear how the new Ripley compares to some of these other mid-travel trail bikes.
Hey thanks. Ripley review is coming soon. I think the gap hasn’t necessarily closed between the two. Rather both bikes have just shifted up the capability scale a bit.
Just published the new Ripley video!
I just bought a Ripley from you guys and absolutely love it! I am starting to look at my Ripmo build and what are your thoughts on running more enduro with a 170mm ZEB and Vivid ?
I’d probably just point you toward an HD6 at that point. If you aren’t sold on the MX I guess you could overbuild a Ripmo. A vivid isn’t going to make it feel more enduro but overforking and bumping up the stanchion size might a little bit.
Is an AF coming in the future? As always great video by the way
Hey thanks! Good question. Not sure on an AF.
Another one out of the park! Great content.
Hey thanks!
The Ripley is now a heavy bike. New frame is 7.3lbs…2lbs more than previous gen
Rimpo seems like the much better choice if you can’t decide
Weight certainly isn’t everything- in fact it’s only a tiny component of how a bike rides. The Ripley climbs way better than a Ripmo and has a very unique ride quality.
@@bikersedge but other trail bikes are much lighter than the Ripley now.
I get from Ibis doing a cost saving with less engineering to have 2 bikes with the same frame.
The Yeti SB 160 is a pound heavier than the new Ripley frame. Thats a full blown enduro race bike. Thats my point…
@frienduro24 I get that. The frame might be heavy, but that doesn’t mean that lighter bikes are simply better.
@@frienduro24yep....I was waiting for the Ripley before I bought a bc40..Glad I went with the bc40..Sure ,it's more on the xc side but the geo is pretty aggressive considering it's caliber. Built it up with a 34 , ground control and a butcher , 4 pot xtr and a one up cockpit with riser bars..Thing is 26lbs in an XL and absolutely rips.. I definitely appreciate a lighter bike when a ton elevation is involved..
@@flow2tech Ibis cut corners to save money by engineering one frame for 2 bikes
Nice review as always. Thanks! Just out of interest, if you would have to choose between the Hightower and the new Ripmo, which one would it be, and for what reason? Thanks in advance.
Thanks! I answered that one in some earlier comments. Go look for that there.
Love your perspective and reviews!! How does this compare to SB140? Do you have a preference for one vs the other? Thanks
Thanks! This feels more fun and lively than the 140. The 140 feels more serious and racy. Both are good on the climbs but this might best the 140 by just a bit.
Big fan of your content here, congrats. I'm split between the new Bronson and the Ripmo (non mullet version). I ride a mix of flow and chunky trails, predominantly man made trails with some steeps. Can you suggest a pick? Thanks!
Man. Pretty torn myself between those. Kinda similar actually. If you’re on more flow and machine cut the Bronsons handling is really fun. The Ripmo is great overall.
Thanks gonna be a coin toss, I guess 😅
Great review mate. Have you ever ridden a Norco sight? The older version, not the current high pivot. Pretty similar geo numbers to this, wonder how the two compare. Thanks
Yeah, I rode the previous version, but it was years ago. Don't think I could fairly compare them.
Great review! In the mullet setup, how similar do you think it would be to the Bronson? I assume the same with the Ripmo being the better climber because of the dw-link?
DW doesn't inherently pedal better than VPP, 4-bar, or any other platform. It just allows for different kinematics. I haven't ridden the Bronson so I can't make any comparisons.
Hey man, I’m a fan of your videos. Keep them coming! I’m curious about what action camera you use and what settings you have on it?
Hey thanks. Rocking the GoPro 12 with Max lens.
@@bikersedge sweet! Thanks!
Super good video, again. I bought after your review the 2022 Rallon. How would you compare the new Ripmo to the Rallon. I mean the Rallon is Enduro but as you said more an all mountain. Cheers
Thanks! I think the Rallon feels sportier and more serious. The Ripley is more inclined to goof around.
@@bikersedge ? How would you compare the Ripmo (not Ripley) to the Rallon? Cheers
Sorry. Mistyped. Meant to say Ripmo.
Rad review as ALWAYS! How would swaping out the Fox 36 for a Fox 38 change the ride?
Not sure it really needs it. It might help with a bit of stiffness up front if you're a bigger rider. It goes plenty hard with the 36, though.
How do you think this bike compares to the Yeti SB140LR?
Nice review, compared to previous gen giant reign 146/160 travel you have ridden and reviewed is there any significant difference ? mostly in descending capabilities , thanks.
It’s been so long since I’ve ridden that. Wouldn’t be able to make a comparison.
looks great! How would you compare it to a V3 hightower? Thanks!
Similar category. I think the Ripmo feels a bit more playful and fun. I feels a little easier to get into the travel as well. Probably pretty close on the climbs.
How does this bike compares with the Hightower both uphill and downhill? Thaks for the awesome reviews ✌🏽
I answered that one in an earlier comment. Go check that one for the answer.
Thanks for another great review! Seems like all brands are shifting their lineups to be more capable downhill. Very interested to see what you think of the Ripley. Hope they didn't make too capable at the expense of playful.
Hey thanks! It’s still very much a Ripley. Quick and zippy.
The new Ripley video is live!
"For everybody that likes bikes, especially ones that don't suck"
What a revelation!
You’d be surprised. Some people like bikes that suck.
Great review!. Still love my Rippy V2 and I'll keep that as long as I can.
Couldn't agree with you more on pedal strikes. It's all about ride technique. When kicking over rocks and stumps the pedal should be 45 minimum and A pedal strike actually kicks you up over the obstacle. On descents or rolling big obstacles my pedal strikes are always because I'm tired or not paying attention and I'm not keeping my pedals horizontal. Cornering and berms that outside pedal should be down, not the inside one.
Comes with experience and Rider technique, not the height of the bottom bracket for me anyway.
Totally agree on the BB height.
Have you ridden a V2 ripmo that has been “ripley’d”? Have one with a 140mm 34 and 130 shock. It solves your liking low bottom bracket issue lol!! But fun as hell! Did a 10 crown race spacer that put the hta around 65.4
Very interesting.
I had a Ripmo V2, and liked it a lot especially how it climbed. I sold it for a Hightower 3, which I've loved even more mainly due to the descending performance, and better body position it puts me in (higher stack, less extreme reach). How would you compare the HT3 vs Ripmo 3?
I answered that one in an earlier comment. Go check for that one.
Seems pretty similar to the Bronson. Sick bike!
Both are rad.
Great review!
Hey thanks!
Pretty rad, other than one little detail: I bought my V1 Ripmo for $3,800 for a complete NX built (was $4200 retail). Now just the frame and shock are $3,700. I'm sure it's better than my 5yo V1, but is it TWICE as good?
Yeah the price certainly took a bit of a jump. Most brands have done the same in the last few years.
How does it compare to the V3 hightower especially given the current SC factory sale? I am surprised you haven't done a V3 hightower review yet. Would love to see one.
We did a Hightower 3 review. Right when it was launched. Check the comments on this video. I made a quick comparison on one of those already.
Thanks so much. Not sure how I missed both. Love your reviews. Appreciate it.
Hey thanks!
Nice video. Comparison to Switchblade?
We don’t carry pivot. I’m not too familiar.
Any chance you could share what zone youre ridung in the review? Powmow maybe?
Most of this is park city and the cottonwood canyons.
Extra medium? Great review as always.
Yeah. It’s what ibis named the size. It’s basically a large.
I’m a late 40s rider with a bad neck too. My current bike causes me lots of pain, but I’ve ridden friend’s bikes and felt fine.
Is it most likely the reach that causes the issue? On my own bike, I feel I’m too far stretched forward often times.
I want to upgrade, but need to make an improvement here to keep riding.
Could be a bunch of things. Getting your fit right will certainly help. I’ve found a taller front end helps me too.
In your Sentinel review, you called it a Ripmo from the future, and this new Ripmo is pretty darn close to the V2 Sentinel on paper. I’ll be really curious to see how this compares to the V3 Sentinel, whenever that comes out.
I hope they'll be similar. Not sure when that will happen, but I'll make sure to compare the two.
@@bikersedge How does this new ripmo compare to the current sentinel (I own one). You seemed to have quite a bit of time on the sentinel so you’re probably a good one to ask.
@KnuckleDragger2070 I still think the current sentinel rides harder and bigger than the Ripmo. The Ripmo is a bit more balanced and fun and lively.
Can you discuss Ibis’ decision to run 35mm rims? Seems like other bikes in this category are sticking to 29-30mm.
Not totally sure there. They’ve been super wide for a while now.
@@bikersedge what is your opinion on the ride quality of the 35mm vs 29-30? Would carbon rims at a wider size feel different than the stock aluminum rims?
I haven’t done any back to back to really feel the difference.
I'm curious how the pivot switchblade stacks against the new ripmo. Maybe the switchblade could be a good future review.
We don’t carry Pivot so we won’t be able to make it happen.
Man, choosing a bike just becomes tougher and tougher. I was pretty set on a "big" bike, Megatower more specifically. But not sure I need so much bike, even though I'll mostly do bike park days (not any super tough stuff) - Do you think the Ripmo might be the ticket for me? Something I can still pedal at home on "normal" xc/light trail trails, and not be under-biked at the bike park?
If I were to buy a megatower, my guess is i'd never even look that way when going out for a ride at home. I'd grab the xc bike 10/10 times. But the Ripmo might change that (also been looking at the new stumpy, and "enduro" it with some bigger components (zeb 160mm and vivid air)
I've been riding bike park stuff on this, and my Altitude. The Ripmo is faster and more fun just about everywhere except for the roughest stuff. That's where the Altitude shines. I'm a little torn myself, to be honest. I don't care a ton about pedaling performance. But from the sounds of it, you might care a bit. in that case the Ripmo could be really good for you.
@@bikersedge Thank you for the input. Yeah I honestly cant really decide for myself. What I think I want and what I probably need are two different things. However, I can get a MT frameset for about $2k off right now. So its just about $2k cheaper than altitude/stumpy/ripmo. So I might go for that. Probably wont use it at home, but hey, thats what my XC bike is for…
I have a V1 in an XL, although I’m very comfortable on it it has always felts just a tad long, and I mean a very small amount. But at 6’ I’m always in between sizes now. I’m interested in a frame swap, but I’m not sure if I should go with the new L or XM size. Or if it’s even worth the money to swap the frame over to the V3.
The V3 is very different than the V1. Much more capable, and the suspension is solid. For sizing, I'd recommend a demo or test ride.
I would love to see how the V3 compares to the new V3 Switchblade.
We don’t carry pivot. Won’t be able to make it happen.
Great video as always! Please compare this to the pivot switchblade 😎
Hey thanks. We don’t carry pivot. Won’t be able to make that happen.
@@bikersedge How about the transition sentinel?
I think the sentinel feels a bit more biased toward the DH. It’s slacker and a bit more aggressive. This climbs better and is more fun. The sentinel tackles rough terrain better.
Patiently waiting for the Ripley video 😄
Coming soon.
Just published it!
@@bikersedge Hell yea! Watching now!
You said you had wrist and thumb issues. Have you tried the Ergon GA3? I just got those and can never go back to plain old round grips now, they seem archaic.
I’ve tried just about all the grips but I’ll take a peek at those.
@@bikersedge This woman let me ride her Scott Contessa and she had those on and went home and ordered them right away lol.
@@TomCollins-c4hI thought they looked dumb but my mom had them on her bike and I took it out and was blown away by how comfortable they were
@@bikersedge Took a little getting used to them but after my ride today my hands didn't ache at all like they usually do. My hands never felt better after a ride, crazy.
I LOVE a little higher bottom bracket, we don’t have ANY flow, just rocks, rocks and chunk.
My favorite trails are super rocky, rooty, and steep - I still want a low BB.
You mentioned being a “princess” about your carbon bars and wrist/thumb issues. So what bars are you riding? What width and rise? And what grips (narrow or fat)? I notice you ride without gloves too.
I ride the OneUp bars. Rise and width depend on the fit of the bike. I like ODI dread locks and elite pros. Gloves suck. I avoid them at all costs.
@@bikersedge also riding the one ups. I went with fatter grips but I think that’s worse on my hands somehow causing me to grip harder. But I like gloves. So we can’t talk anymore (jk). Keep up the great videos. You do a good job. I’m tall like you so appreciate your perspective.
Hey thanks! Glad you like the videos. Try no gloves sometime - guaranteed to make you faster.
Would you rock this as a daily or have a 2nd enduro/super enduro for park days (if money was no object?)
@@MichelBalik I mean if money was no object I’d have a million bikes. But I’d be completely happy having this as my only bike. Does it all pretty well.
In my opinion, bike companies should only make 2 Trailbikes; the 120/120mm Downcountry bike and the 150/160mm All-Mountain bike. So I'm 100% percent behind the new Ripmo. Specialized screwed up when they dumped the 150/160mm Stumpy Evo for the 145/150mm Stumpy.
Yeah I think two trail bikes makes sense.
Great bike, even better review!
Hey Thanks! I appreciate it.
What do you think about going to 165 or 170 cranks and keeping a lower BB that’s what I did on my old Ripmo.
That’s a great solution for people who struggle with pedal strikes.
I think the higher BB with larger frame sizes makes a big difference and is super smart. It's less about pedal strikes as at static bikes with the same BB will sit at the same height and more about break over as your wheelbase gets longer your brake over angle gets worse. Think Moab and Grand Junction where we constantly are going up and over rocks and the chainring is the thing that smacks the rock not my pedals and that's just due to the wheels being further apart. It's big brain Conner plus low BBs aren't that cool, Higher BBs just require more bike body separation to keep center of gravity over the traction. Lol the last part is just fluff but in actuality bet you couldn't tell the difference except when you don't chain ring a scary roll. :)
I get the higher-ground clearance argument. I'd just much rather have a lower BB for more stability out of a bike. Again, technique and timing will keep you from chain-ringing a rock.
@@bikersedge I live in Grand Junction nothing will save me from chain-ringing a rock. 😂 I'm a tall Giraffe as well and I find more stack a solid fix for a higher BB for more in the bike feel for those PC trails like Black Forest and Red Bull. Dakota Norton style lol.
@@bikersedge bros basically saying skill issue 😂
I spend plenty of time in Moab, GJ and St George. It’s an avoidable problem.
I assure you it's not a skill issue. You can only unweight once every couple seconds. I can't live weightless. JS there is a reason this exists and it's not poor technique. Why doesn't Pivot slam all of their bikes? Why does Transition? it's location dependent. Ride a Sentinel in the Desert then ride a Switchblade one will be a shit load faster through the whole loop. Go ride Moore Fun on a low bike and tell me how you did.
If HD6 would be 29er I would have bought it … now I have Norco range 😊…. It is a Brut and I love it with triple clamp 😅.
The Range is gnarly.
How about a Ripmo v3 / SC Hightower / Orbea Occam LT comparison? 🤗
I've made some quick comparisons to those bikes in the comments.
So the Ripley and Ripmo use the same frame? So can the new Ripley be somehow converted to a Ripmo? I personally like the color options better on the new Ripley haha
Yes. You’ll be able to buy the linkage to swap them back and forth. Of course you’ll need a shock and components too.
So which would you say rides most like the Oso- The new Ripmo or the new HD6? Both in terms of trail feel but also seated and standing fit dimensions?
Thats really tough - Neither one of them rides like the Oso. eBikes are so different in terms of ride quality. As far as the fit goes, the sizing on the Ripmo and Oso are more similar.
@@bikersedge i know what you mean- that weight low down and power from the motor changes things. Info on fit is helpful though- the Large Oso fits me like a damn glove off the shelf. None of the numbers are exact match but your info helps a lot. Thanks dude.
@dadventuretv2538 of course. Glad I could be helpful by being unhelpful. Ha.
@@bikersedge 😂
How would you say the RM Instinct compares to the new Ripmo or maybe the Ripley? I realize the Ripmo has more suspension but curious what you think.
I think the Instinct is quite a bit like the Ripmo. Suspension feels different and it’s slacker. Ripmo climbs better.
@@bikersedge how do these suspensions feel compared to each other?
The Instinct feels more active both on the climbs and descents. I typically like 4 bar for staying active even while braking. That said, the Ripmo still does a good job of feeling good while on the brakes. The Ripmo feels a bit more lively and quick on the pedals.
If you had to choose one as a stablemate to the altitude which would you pick? (Ripley, ripmo, smuggler, or instinct)
Bummed the 2 lower versions come a Marzocchi Bomber coil fork.
Yeah. It would have been nice to see air on those.
that fork is sick. Should have just been paired with a bomber coil in back, to match.
@myrideclips5033 tough to get different springs at the moment though.
Stay tuned. Might see an air spec sooner than later.
How does this compare to Santa Cruz Bronson which is almost identical geometry wise?
Not sure. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to ride one of those.
My TranceX 29 is long and low and I pedal strike all. the. time. And it's absolutely a lack of skill on my part lol.
Hahah. I still pedal smack too but I fully accept the blame.
Maybe you havent noticed "150MM Rear wheel Travel" hahahahaha.. Great review by the way..
Huh?
@@bikersedge Second 16 of your video, where you show the bike and all the main measures sizes, angles, etc. it reads "150MM Rear wheel Travel"... You know more than me about bikes by far but that is not correct I believe. LOL
Yes, the Ripmo has 150mm of rear wheel travel. Not seeing what's incorrect here.
Definitely see the argument of get your skills and technique better but IMO higher BB for clearance it's an off road bike man we ain't riding road. Or Run shorter cranks but higher BB for sure man
Nah. Lower BB for better cornering and stability at speed and in the rough. Just don’t smack your BB on stuff - Unweight over it.
I assume this is the heckleberry color? It just looks so blue.
Yes this is the purple one.
Can you compare the new Ripley to the Rascal?
I haven’t ridden a rascal in over 4 years. Not going to be able to make a comparison there.
just curious where you are riding in the video?
Mostly the cottonwood canyons and park city areas
How would you compare the V3 Ripmo with the latest Trance X or the Stumpy 15? Thanks!!!
The Trance X is more trail than the Ripmo. The Ripmo rides bigger. Not sure about the Specialized. We don’t carry them at the shop. Not too familiar.
@@bikersedge Thanks! Have you had a chance to ride the SX version of the new Trance X to throw that in the mix? It's probably "still" more trail. But I wonder if at that point your closer to the V2 Ripley with slightly better geo? :) I find it odd that they made the new Ripley "ride bigger" now that they have such a solid offering in the HD6. When they didn't have an Enduro bike everyone wanted a bigger Ripmo, but there wasn't a reason for that now...???
I haven't ridden the SX Trance X.
I think the Ripley can ride a little bigger now because of the Exie. Previously, there was a big gap between the Ripley and Ripmo, and now it's a little closer.
Is this ride at Snow Basin? If so, which trails?
Nope. Mostly park city, and the cottonwoods.
Which high rise handlebars do you like that provide compliance and comfort?
Big fan of OneUp bars right now. Very complaint/flexy and easy on the hands. I have a few different sets with different rises to fine tune fit on each bike.
I run 60mm titanium bars with 12 degree sweep (on 2 bikes). Ti bars are a lot "softer" on the hands. Revgrips help too.
I love titanium bars. They're a little out of my tax bracket, though.
@@bikersedge $125.
Where!? I need some.
Is the bike a dust magnet? How is that paint finish?
Hard to comment on the paint. I’ve only been riding it for a little over a month or so. It’s been extra dry this summer so all of our trails are dusty. This bike doesn’t seem to collect more than any other bike I have. Then again I don’t pay attention to that kind of stuff.
How do you compare it to the Pivot Switchblade?
Not sure. We don't carry Pivot. Haven't ever ridden one.
How does it compare to the Hightower?
The HT feels a bit more serious. Stiffer and sportier. This is a bit more on the fun and lively side.
Is the riding footage sped up?
Normal speed. The GoPro just did me some favors.
Can you do a hard tail review?
Yeah I’ve done a few of them over the years.
@@bikersedge I’ll look for them! Thanks
Does ibis offer a frame set option?
Yes
the ripley v5 or sc tallboy???
Don't think of it as "your" bottom bracket is higher. Think of it as their bottom bracket isn't as high. Sometimes smaller people can do things which bigger people can't and vice versa.
Either way, I want my BB to be as low as it can be.
It looks like an electronic only frame, but it's offered in a xt build.
It’s not an electric only frame. There’s routing for cables.
Mullet hater!! Hahahaha lol! Thanks for the review, it sounds like an awesome bike!
Ha. I enjoy a mullet but typically prefer a full 29 for a pedal bike.
@@bikersedge 😁 I know I know… I think we had the same discussion on the Altitude review… thanks for the review, looking forward to the Ripley video although I think I have my favorite…
Stay tuned. I should be getting it posted later this week.
i cant wait until the internal frame storage is over and done with. Honestly i like the older versions better. this just reminds me of the cyber truck for some reason- goddy and to much
I can take it or leave it on frame storage. The ride quality on this one is so much better.
@@bikersedge Yeeeee Booiiiii give me another 5 years and ill be all over it. Take care out there and treat each ride like its the last. tomorrow is not guaranteed my friend
The redesign is sexy , I want it !!!
Same!
WHAT???? no sb140 comparison
I haven’t ridden that for quite a while but the Ripmo is more fun and lively while being every bit as capable. The Yeti feels more serious and racy.
My sad assessment of my bike skills when I confirmed I wasn't watching the riding footage of this review at the 2x player setting. 😭
The GoPro did me some favors on this one. HAHA
I see they got rid of the 38 fork
Yeah. That part is explained in the video.
@@bikersedge Just started watching...
Only the front triangle is the same on the Ripley
Both are the same. Linkage is different.
@@bikersedge gotcha. Interesting... Feels like the Ripley got closer to the ripmo than vice versa. Can't wait for that review.
Yeah on paper the Ripley might look a little overbuilt. It doesn't quite ride that way, though.