When I installed this kit I couldn't stop smiling. Honestly it makes the feel of the car feel much more premium. As if I was driving a more expensive car.
Myself and a friend just did this to my car about 2 weeks ago and I will tell you it is worth the money. Especially when paired with a weighted (Raceseng) shift knob! 👌🏾
Had under floor shifter mods installed on my 2015 WRX too, another great mod I whole heartedly agree with you regardless whether drive an STI or WRX VA Series Subaru. And now this video reminds me there are some additional transmission urethane bushings I should do. We may have different models but the same modifying principle applies too. And the great and resoundingly true thing is all the little drive train mods accumulate to become very transformative they really do. Reducing "softness" in mounts and bushings reduces losses increases responsiveness which makes driving just better, what you say is true. Lastly the interesting thing is that it gets expensive following you but I must say I have a better Subie in part from mods you have done to your Subaru. So I guess I owe you a sincere thank you!
The transmission, cross member bushing and pitch stop make a huge difference especially on hard fast shifts. The subframe bushing and differential bushings help on hard cornering with throttle. I kept my motor bushing stock which helps keep it a bit more sane,
@@MachuPichuu Good to know. Pitch stop and brace check ✅. Shifter stop check ✅. Short shift adapter plate and bushing check ✅. Transmission support check ✅. Rear differential support check✅. Engine mounts check✅ Carbon fiber drive shaft check ✅. Whiteline urethane transmission bushings in the mail. So I have pretty much switched most of the soft and mushy OEM driveline stuff out. Crisper shifts, more responsive and it is still sane. Maybe not the money spent but the driving/shifting experience night and day from OEM. Cheers
Dude your build is so clean and personalized, I love it. I’ve got a standard STi short throw shifter that came with my WRX but hate how crunchy it sounds. Looks like replacing the shifter bushings is the move - great vid 👍🏼
I did this to my old WRX and it made a huge difference in the feel of the shifter (it was super sloppy) The STI I just bought had a kartboy short throw shifter and a set of bushings with it that the previous owner never installed. Looking forward to getting them on
I was watching your video regarding your M3 and how you plan on updating your shifter bushing. I searched up how to replace bushing on a Sti and this video showed up. Thanks for the install tutorial, im going to install shifter bushings on my 2021 Sti.
I know this video is years old but I just did the install and my reverse lockout no longer lets me in reverse. Did you have this issue when doing yours? My lockout does still function, just not allowing me in
Did these plus the crossmember poly mounts (from Perrin IIRC) on my STi 6 speed swapped Bugeye. It was fairly loud so I never noticed the added NVH but the tightness of the shifter was great. Now with my '13 STi, the shifter has so much slop I need to do this ASAP. Was a bit sad to see you finally sold the STi.
Just installed mine on Labor Day. Started at 1 pm was finished at 8 pm 🤣😂 I personally love the increased whine and nvh - reminds me of the Subaru rally cars in dirt rally
probably the best mod. shifting is easier and more reliable. did you get any audible noise after install? my cobb bushings were noisy, wondering if maybe I didn't add enough grease?
That rear bushing was nuts. I was struggling for 2 hours as well. Then I got a suggestion off iwsti that worked within 5 mins. Get 2 six inch extensions on the end of your 12mm socket and then hand thread it. The leverage might let you angle the bolt the correct amount.
Hey just did this install on my 2020 sti. I absolutely hated the nvh from the rear bushing. It was almost louder than the exhaust lol. In the end, I went down there and replaced the rear bushing with the oem and holy smack I love the set up. If you get a rattle in 5th and 6th, remember to zip tie the reverse lockout cable to the shifter linkage cause it will make the cable rub on the driveshaft and cause huge issues if not fixed!
Dave T. Just a little bit more firmness through each gear. I think the biggest thing was going from 3rd to 4th. You would feel each snap 3rd -> neutral -> 4th. Without the bushing it, if you were aggressive with the shift, it felt like 3rd -> 4th. At first it felt a bit unnatural but if you slow your pace, you feel each step.
@@snakebites1134 I have the OEM short throw installed from factory plus Perrin front shifter bushing but I have a WRX so I'm not sure if they're the same.
OK, at 1:32 and on, can anyone tell me where he is placing the jack at? I am not aware of a jack point (safe spot) on my 2018 STi there. This would be a huge help.
Apreciate the content man..Solid videos! I wanted to ask if you knew of a wrx to sti center console swap. I love the cupholder set up on the sti. But i want to blank off the DCCD. Do you have any conta ts that do custom work? I can send u my info if you wiuld like...ive been wanting a mod like this forever!
@@345mrawsomeness I have a WRX so not sure if they are even the same lol I have the Perrin brass front shifter bushing and I like how it feels when changing gears vs stock
Did you have any issues with how tight you did the bolt on the bushing? I replaced those two bushings and the 2 linkage bushings above the large one you did. They seemed to be super tight and i had to keep the bolts fairly loose to not make it difficult to shift. Mine had some rust on the metal so not sure if that contributed to the issue. the specs said 7 and 11ft/lbs but i didn't even do them that tight. The linkage bushing removed quite a bit of the left over slop but a real nightmare to replace. Not sure if i need to give them some time to break in.
When I removed the stock bushings, I was surprised how little torque there was on both front and rear. I was easily able to break them loose with a wrench. I didn’t over tighten and just made them snug, very much how the stock bolts felt. There is no way to get a torque wrench in there, so you just have to use your best judgment. But they don’t need to be overly tightened.
@@Scoobyfreak86 I had the oppsosite problem. The bolts were so rusted that they required a ton or torque to get off. This was from a 2016 with only 50k miles. The linkage bushings was also so tight I had to use a hammer to align up the holes. Some mentioned finger tight then quarter turn but I can't thread any of the bolts by finger, ha. Based on your 1 finger gear shift, I probably need to loosen them a bit more. Then maybe add a bit of locktight for safe measure.
That white box in the passenger seat Perrin wing stabilizers?? Lol 😂 not to be all up in your business haha I only know cause I got mine a couple days ago!
Did you try any other short shifters prior to the kart boy? I’m definitely wanting to upgrade mine but I haven’t really been exposed to any short throws in person. So I’m kinda just watching videos and reading as much as possible to see what others opinions and experiences have been like with their builds.
I’ve only tried kartboy. Honestly, it’s the best option. Cobb has an adjustable ssk, but in my mind, it’s just more moving parts to go wrong. I prefer something solid. I had a kartboy in my wrx as well and had a great experience. I would do kartboy over and over again.
@@Scoobyfreak86 yeah kart boy, Perrin and billet works seem to be the two I see spoken about positively more often than others. So those are the ones I have interest in researching. Obviously everyone experience and opinions will subjective. I’m tryin to find any objective features that would align more with preferences. This kart boy height is where I would want it. Ive seen others and they’re too low for my liking.
Hi, just got my kartboy and bushings installed but now it seems it has a whinning sound at 1st and 2nd gear. Did you have this issue too? If so, any remedy? Seems like a common issue when i look online but cant find a solution other than "go back to oem bushings" lol
Nvh (noise vibration harshness). It happens when you install any stiffer bushing. If you installed the shifter as well, you need to zip tie the reverse cable out of the way of the driveshaft.
@Scoobyfreak86 sorry if im a total noob when it comes to this. I had a shop do the install for me since i cant work on my car at my apartment. If I zip tie the reverse cable out of the way does that solve issue?
I notice a bit of winning, but what I really notice is when I'm cruising down a hill or something where I'm not on the gas but in gear, there's more overall noise, like a white noise. Do you experience anything like that? Sorry also noob lol
Ill go check but I putted just one near the resr bushing ill put more near the front. I read somewhere that these make some whining on 1st and second accélération
man ive always wanna add the complete kartboy shifter thing…but i read alot of comments saying its gonna make noise..i shouldnt be hearing it with an after market exhaust like r400 right??😂
Yes you will hear the more audible noise. I have a fairl loud exhaust snd it’s noticeable. But it’s a great addition to the car overall. The feel and overall sound it provides makes the driving experience that much more rewarding. If you want a similar result, just don’t install the rear bushing. Supposedly it gives you the firmness without the added noise.
Finally someone explained what the noise was!! Ty!! I recently installed the kart boy shifter and bushings and there was a whistle and noise in 2nd gear. although mine is loud and unbearable.. did I do something wrong?? Some days its louder. Other days its more quiet..
No mods will “void” warranty. But if something goes wrong with that specific part modified, they can certainly deny warranty. Depends on the dealer as well.
I know this video is years old but I just did the install and my reverse lockout no longer lets me in reverse. Did you have this issue when doing yours? My lockout does still function, just not allowing me in
When I installed this kit I couldn't stop smiling. Honestly it makes the feel of the car feel much more premium. As if I was driving a more expensive car.
Myself and a friend just did this to my car about 2 weeks ago and I will tell you it is worth the money. Especially when paired with a weighted (Raceseng) shift knob! 👌🏾
Had under floor shifter mods installed on my 2015 WRX too, another great mod I whole heartedly agree with you regardless whether drive an STI or WRX VA Series Subaru. And now this video reminds me there are some additional transmission urethane bushings I should do. We may have different models but the same modifying principle applies too. And the great and resoundingly true thing is all the little drive train mods accumulate to become very transformative they really do. Reducing "softness" in mounts and bushings reduces losses increases responsiveness which makes driving just better, what you say is true.
Lastly the interesting thing is that it gets expensive following you but I must say I have a better Subie in part from mods you have done to your Subaru. So I guess I owe you a sincere thank you!
The transmission, cross member bushing and pitch stop make a huge difference especially on hard fast shifts. The subframe bushing and differential bushings help on hard cornering with throttle. I kept my motor bushing stock which helps keep it a bit more sane,
@@MachuPichuu Good to know. Pitch stop and brace check ✅. Shifter stop check ✅. Short shift adapter plate and bushing check ✅. Transmission support check ✅. Rear differential support check✅. Engine mounts check✅ Carbon fiber drive shaft check ✅. Whiteline urethane transmission bushings in the mail. So I have pretty much switched most of the soft and mushy OEM driveline stuff out. Crisper shifts, more responsive and it is still sane. Maybe not the money spent but the driving/shifting experience night and day from OEM. Cheers
Dude your build is so clean and personalized, I love it. I’ve got a standard STi short throw shifter that came with my WRX but hate how crunchy it sounds. Looks like replacing the shifter bushings is the move - great vid 👍🏼
I did this to my old WRX and it made a huge difference in the feel of the shifter (it was super sloppy)
The STI I just bought had a kartboy short throw shifter and a set of bushings with it that the previous owner never installed. Looking forward to getting them on
What did you think of them? I was thinking of getting their short throw kit
@@se7ense7ens37 they definitely get rid of some of the sloppiness. That front bushing is a PITA though.
About time...now I got to do mine. Lol sounds like it's gonna be awesome.
This helped me a massive amount, I was wondering why my shifter was so loose and now I’m installing bushings
I was watching your video regarding your M3 and how you plan on updating your shifter bushing. I searched up how to replace bushing on a Sti and this video showed up. Thanks for the install tutorial, im going to install shifter bushings on my 2021 Sti.
Glad to have helped!
@@Scoobyfreak86
Btw,what shift knob did you have on your Sti?
Thanks
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@@Scoobyfreak86
Thanks
Your vids are awesome , I need this so bad lol , the slop In my shifter is unreal
I know this video is years old but I just did the install and my reverse lockout no longer lets me in reverse. Did you have this issue when doing yours? My lockout does still function, just not allowing me in
Did these plus the crossmember poly mounts (from Perrin IIRC) on my STi 6 speed swapped Bugeye. It was fairly loud so I never noticed the added NVH but the tightness of the shifter was great. Now with my '13 STi, the shifter has so much slop I need to do this ASAP.
Was a bit sad to see you finally sold the STi.
I installed the Cobb Stage 2 drivetrain package and yes, the rear bushing was a PITA lol
Such a great kit all around! Absolutely love mine on my wrx. Much nicer driving experience and some race car noises 😂
Just installed mine on Labor Day. Started at 1 pm was finished at 8 pm 🤣😂 I personally love the increased whine and nvh - reminds me of the Subaru rally cars in dirt rally
probably the best mod. shifting is easier and more reliable. did you get any audible noise after install? my cobb bushings were noisy, wondering if maybe I didn't add enough grease?
Watch the end of the video where I give my initial impressions after driving the car.
@@Scoobyfreak86 thanx I’m currently watching haha! Cheers!
I’m on about hour 2 of fighting with those rear bushing bolts. One goes in super smooth. I can’t get the other one started.
Need to angle the bolt up more. It’s a royal pain but you’ll get it
That rear bushing was nuts. I was struggling for 2 hours as well. Then I got a suggestion off iwsti that worked within 5 mins.
Get 2 six inch extensions on the end of your 12mm socket and then hand thread it. The leverage might let you angle the bolt the correct amount.
Hey just did this install on my 2020 sti. I absolutely hated the nvh from the rear bushing. It was almost louder than the exhaust lol. In the end, I went down there and replaced the rear bushing with the oem and holy smack I love the set up. If you get a rattle in 5th and 6th, remember to zip tie the reverse lockout cable to the shifter linkage cause it will make the cable rub on the driveshaft and cause huge issues if not fixed!
oof, looks like you did it haha. Great work!
Probably unrelated but I notice slight rattle in 4th gear only lol might have dealer look at it bc still got that warranty
Dave T. Just a little bit more firmness through each gear. I think the biggest thing was going from 3rd to 4th. You would feel each snap 3rd -> neutral -> 4th. Without the bushing it, if you were aggressive with the shift, it felt like 3rd -> 4th. At first it felt a bit unnatural but if you slow your pace, you feel each step.
xil3ntkha0s if you have the kartboy SS and you didn’t zip tie the cable, it’s going to rub. Main reason they supply two zips
@@snakebites1134 I have the OEM short throw installed from factory plus Perrin front shifter bushing but I have a WRX so I'm not sure if they're the same.
OK, at 1:32 and on, can anyone tell me where he is placing the jack at? I am not aware of a jack point (safe spot) on my 2018 STi there. This would be a huge help.
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Keeping the subie?
yay! thatll be my next mod! congrats tho!
Apreciate the content man..Solid videos! I wanted to ask if you knew of a wrx to sti center console swap. I love the cupholder set up on the sti. But i want to blank off the DCCD. Do you have any conta ts that do custom work? I can send u my info if you wiuld like...ive been wanting a mod like this forever!
Overland designs can do it for you
@@Scoobyfreak86 apreciate you pointing me in the right direction. Keep going with ur build !
Nice I have factory short throw kit came on the car but hopefully upgrade to a real short shift kit will make a noticeable difference.
the factory sti short throw is among the best youre gonna get just throw some upgraded bushings from either cobb or kartboy and youre good
@@345mrawsomeness I have a WRX so not sure if they are even the same lol I have the Perrin brass front shifter bushing and I like how it feels when changing gears vs stock
@@xil3ntkha0s oh ya i doubt they are the same so cant speak for how the wrx version feels
Did you have any issues with how tight you did the bolt on the bushing? I replaced those two bushings and the 2 linkage bushings above the large one you did. They seemed to be super tight and i had to keep the bolts fairly loose to not make it difficult to shift. Mine had some rust on the metal so not sure if that contributed to the issue. the specs said 7 and 11ft/lbs but i didn't even do them that tight. The linkage bushing removed quite a bit of the left over slop but a real nightmare to replace. Not sure if i need to give them some time to break in.
When I removed the stock bushings, I was surprised how little torque there was on both front and rear. I was easily able to break them loose with a wrench.
I didn’t over tighten and just made them snug, very much how the stock bolts felt. There is no way to get a torque wrench in there, so you just have to use your best judgment. But they don’t need to be overly tightened.
@@Scoobyfreak86 I had the oppsosite problem. The bolts were so rusted that they required a ton or torque to get off. This was from a 2016 with only 50k miles.
The linkage bushings was also so tight I had to use a hammer to align up the holes. Some mentioned finger tight then quarter turn but I can't thread any of the bolts by finger, ha.
Based on your 1 finger gear shift, I probably need to loosen them a bit more. Then maybe add a bit of locktight for safe measure.
Definitely a mod im doing as well 100%
It’s worth the work!
That rear bushing really does suck to install
where did you purchase your center gauge pod holder? that is gorgeous!
Subispeed
That white box in the passenger seat Perrin wing stabilizers?? Lol 😂 not to be all up in your business haha I only know cause I got mine a couple days ago!
No sir. That was the white perrin radiator shroud that someone bought from me. Was bringing it to the post office.
What shift knob is that? Looks clean
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Did you try any other short shifters prior to the kart boy? I’m definitely wanting to upgrade mine but I haven’t really been exposed to any short throws in person. So I’m kinda just watching videos and reading as much as possible to see what others opinions and experiences have been like with their builds.
I’ve only tried kartboy. Honestly, it’s the best option. Cobb has an adjustable ssk, but in my mind, it’s just more moving parts to go wrong. I prefer something solid. I had a kartboy in my wrx as well and had a great experience. I would do kartboy over and over again.
@@Scoobyfreak86 yeah kart boy, Perrin and billet works seem to be the two I see spoken about positively more often than others. So those are the ones I have interest in researching. Obviously everyone experience and opinions will subjective. I’m tryin to find any objective features that would align more with preferences. This kart boy height is where I would want it. Ive seen others and they’re too low for my liking.
The 3* I’m at work and I was simultaneously responding to someone’s question while typing 😂
Hi, just got my kartboy and bushings installed but now it seems it has a whinning sound at 1st and 2nd gear. Did you have this issue too? If so, any remedy? Seems like a common issue when i look online but cant find a solution other than "go back to oem bushings" lol
Nvh (noise vibration harshness). It happens when you install any stiffer bushing. If you installed the shifter as well, you need to zip tie the reverse cable out of the way of the driveshaft.
@Scoobyfreak86 sorry if im a total noob when it comes to this. I had a shop do the install for me since i cant work on my car at my apartment. If I zip tie the reverse cable out of the way does that solve issue?
Yes. The whirl you are hearing is the reverse cable hitting the driveshaft.
@@Scoobyfreak86 appreciate you helping me out! Thank you
I notice a bit of winning, but what I really notice is when I'm cruising down a hill or something where I'm not on the gas but in gear, there's more overall noise, like a white noise. Do you experience anything like that? Sorry also noob lol
Hey chris just installed those with the short too.
Did you notice new whining noise after install ?
Did you zip tie the reverse cable underneath? If not, that noise is the cable hitting the driveshaft.
Ill go check but I putted just one near the resr bushing ill put more near the front.
I read somewhere that these make some whining on 1st and second accélération
Yes. You are adding stiffer bushings so it will add some nvh.
What wheels are those? Those wheels with white calipers looks bada$$
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Question is this shifter a bit offset to the left when in neutral?
Nope dead center
man ive always wanna add the complete kartboy shifter thing…but i read alot of comments saying its gonna make noise..i shouldnt be hearing it with an after market exhaust like r400 right??😂
Yes you will hear the more audible noise. I have a fairl loud exhaust snd it’s noticeable. But it’s a great addition to the car overall. The feel and overall sound it provides makes the driving experience that much more rewarding. If you want a similar result, just don’t install the rear bushing. Supposedly it gives you the firmness without the added noise.
Finally someone explained what the noise was!! Ty!! I recently installed the kart boy shifter and bushings and there was a whistle and noise in 2nd gear. although mine is loud and unbearable.. did I do something wrong?? Some days its louder. Other days its more quiet..
Make sure that reverse cable is tied up out of the way of the driveshaft!
Yeah im experiencing this as well on 2nd gear. Its so annoying. Can you get rid of this?
So this exact short shifter kit works with a regular wrx too?
It does not. Wrx is a different transmission. I would go with the boomba for the wrx.
Hey bro, can you install it on my STI? I will pay for it, I dont feel like I can do it my self
I would take it to a shop if you are not comfortable doing this (or any install). Unfortunately, I do not do installs on other peoples cars.
Do you need to install the bushings? what is the purpose of the bushings?
You don’t have to install them. You can just run the shifter. The bushings remove the slop left over due to the stock rubber bushings.
@@Scoobyfreak86 thanks bud, I just ordered one. Apparently the black bushings make an annoying sound. I can't find a sound clip of it though.
They increase some nvh since they are a poly bushing.
What shift know is this? Thanks in advance
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That rear bushing gave me the absolute biggest headache
Not a fun install haha. Glad you got through it.
Nice
Will this void any warranties?
No mods will “void” warranty. But if something goes wrong with that specific part modified, they can certainly deny warranty. Depends on the dealer as well.
can i get ur paint code
Lapis blue pearl
I know this video is years old but I just did the install and my reverse lockout no longer lets me in reverse. Did you have this issue when doing yours? My lockout does still function, just not allowing me in
Check the reverse cable. It may have disconnected.
@@Scoobyfreak86 surprisingly it’s still in there, maybe there’s some way I need to tighten the cable.