True since Ash is mostly a 1 dimensional character and is not very forgiving if caught in the open, meaning she only excels if you're already a good player.
I think devs hate Ash. No love for her. The twin snare should be default like fuse q. Besides her ult is bad. Not like pathfinder that works super fine.
Dude I’ve been sleeping on ash, I finally tried her out season 20 and it’s completely changed the game for me. Her tactical is okay, it comes in handy often but it’s not great compared to what other legends have in the assault category. It’s her ult that changes everything for me. It’s so versatile and most importantly it’s a get out of jail free card for me. I can comfortably play around teams knowing I have my ult and whenever it gets too spicy I can just dip and disappear. It lets me be anywhere I need to be instantly, let’s be dip from a bad scene, great for mini rotations around poi’s, I love it. It reminds me of wraith when she could instantly phase away from trouble, but you can take your whole team if you want idk I can’t praise it enough honestly as a solo player or even on a team. It’s a get out of jail free card and an instant teleport to wherever you need to be. My K/D has never been higher this season and ash is definitely my knew main. I want to get really good with her and eventually get her heirloom
Update on this, I still main ash and I just got heirloom shards randomly and got hers. I definitely have complaints on her ult now. I wish I could aim it better, it’s just so janky. The range it goes is not far and you travel pretty slow and it’s so hard to get it exactly where you want it especially on controller. I still think she’s a sleeper pick with some great potential but she needs some fine tuning imo
Two arc sneers should already be in her kit. They need to double the distance of her ultimate and also fix the issue where you have to clip onto something to use it you should be able to freely use it when looking in any direction, you literally cannot look up into the air and use her old. It’s so badand fix her passive passive is mediocre. I would play Ash if she was a better more fun character.
I feel like compared to a fuse q, bang q or maggie q, the q of ash is way to weak, even if you could throw it while healing. The q is just as bad, as ballistics. The ult is nice, even if it could be a bit longer. The biggest problem is the placing accuracy and reliability. I mean, ash has a portable map-room with the 60sec. perk for her passive, but still she's seen as a bottom tier legend.
Love Ash. As an Ash main her biggest struggle is most definitely the ult distance & targeting. Even though the ult is fantastic. My thoughts to increase her effectiveness is making her ult 85-120m instead of the 63(which I think is why her ult has targeting issues, it's just to short to lock on to where people want to go) and get rid of the enemy callout perk at lv 2 for an extra Ult Charge so she can ult twice. Giving her an extra charge would allow for her mobility to rival her competition (although I understand she isn't a skirmisher and do not want her as one). I'd love to see 90m and 2 charges on the ult with a perk. I'd also be fine with a perk giving her a 120m on the ult with no additional charge. Either way replace the callout perk for an ult buff. Hell you can replace both lv 2 perk with those ult perks and I'd be completely happy. Idc about either lv 2 perk. Also I'm not understanding the hate for her and her Q. Her kit is why I main her. The outplay potential when your decent at the game is nuts. Ash is the perfect mix of offensive and defensive at the same time. I feel like people sleep on that fact.
Tbh ash does need a little work, but she's not as bad as everyone thinks she is honestly. She's simply not as brain dead as other champs so not everyone can just pick her up like that, certain legends require a level of game knowledge to really get the best out of the legends skill set(most of the assault legends, crypto and newcastle)
True, but the main problem with ash is her ultimate. They need to fix the marker for where the portal goes and need to increase distance. As for her tactical it does not capture the enemy quick enough. Although its good its not immediate you can see her trap coming from a mile away and in close range combat it takes a second or two to activate even if its directly thrown on the floor in front of the enemy. Yes ash does require some knowledge of the legend itself. It is certainly not lowest picked legend just because of peoples level of game knowledge. Her skill set needs to be fixed all together even possibly reworked.
Whoever is playing Ash is insane. That movement and those flicks were nasty as hell. Does her level 1 perks actually show up on the full map? Looking for confirmation on this. Thanks for the upload
Ash's ult could be reworked into 2 40 meter charges. Each charge has a minute cooldown. As well as smooth it out so its easier to place & quicker to use. Her q needs to be one handed already and When existing in the world have a bigger radius to cover more space & people caught in this bigger snare are binded longer, from 4s to 6s But throwing & landing it on players directly has it act the same as usual but gives a little less space for victims to move in. Also the movement speed while holding the snare is increased to unholstered sprint speed from weapon sprint speed Finally for her passive, an addition. Anyone enemy who has dealt dmg to a player you killed will allow you to ping that dead player's deathbox & ping their location. Passive can be used 10 meters away from a deathbox.
The thing about ash (without even watching this video) is that she’s a perfectly good character if you don’t know how to play her just play someone else don’t complain until she’s changed and ruined for all of us Ash mains.
Maybe a slight buff is needed to the ult placement but that’s PLACEMENT and a BUFF a CHANGE is the last thing ash needs, the annoying thing ab the “reborn” legends is you’re basically ruining a character a bunch of mains already enjoy playing
I don’t think she’s bottom tier. At the end of the day although the abilities do matter your aim and gaming iq is what will make you win. She’s the quietest legend in the game
Ashes kit just lacks both ima thematic sense and a competitive sense Her passive is useless and very rarely does the scan portion actually come into play which should be the main selling point of the passive, the scans should be more frequent such as every time you get a kill and scan the box you can find their teammates and perhaps the scans could do more then be a ordinary scan maybe have it buff ash in some way by reducing ultimate cooldown or something as well Her tactical is practical yet it’s very boring, the twin snare buff should honestly just be basekit with the QoL change of it being one handed And finally her ultimate it’s yet again practical but incredibly boring, there’s nothing really special about it it’s a portal but you don’t really need that when pathfinder, octane, and wraith have team mobility as well and it’s inherently less safe but it’s ultimately doesn’t really matter because they can do it just as fast and precise and the downside of it not being as quick and precise can be ignored because of how effective those legends are regardless if their team mobility is slightly less safe The ultimate needs a rework to be something stronger and not just a single quick teleport because that is incredibly boring, like it’s not a bad ultimate but for being a ultimate it could definitely do more Such as having a alternate mode where you can use the ultimate at 50% and use the teleport twice but leave no portal while the other mode is a double ranged teleport that leaves a portal for teammates you knock 2 birds with 1 stone by making the ultimate flexible since ash after all is a very flexible legend with scans, lockdown, AND mobility
The thing is cloudy would be good with any character he mostly benefits just from his insane movment and gamesense
Yeah if you watch his videos he plays other characters like gibby and bigger people and still is insane
True since Ash is mostly a 1 dimensional character and is not very forgiving if caught in the open, meaning she only excels if you're already a good player.
I think devs hate Ash. No love for her. The twin snare should be default like fuse q. Besides her ult is bad. Not like pathfinder that works super fine.
Dude I’ve been sleeping on ash, I finally tried her out season 20 and it’s completely changed the game for me. Her tactical is okay, it comes in handy often but it’s not great compared to what other legends have in the assault category. It’s her ult that changes everything for me. It’s so versatile and most importantly it’s a get out of jail free card for me. I can comfortably play around teams knowing I have my ult and whenever it gets too spicy I can just dip and disappear. It lets me be anywhere I need to be instantly, let’s be dip from a bad scene, great for mini rotations around poi’s, I love it. It reminds me of wraith when she could instantly phase away from trouble, but you can take your whole team if you want idk I can’t praise it enough honestly as a solo player or even on a team. It’s a get out of jail free card and an instant teleport to wherever you need to be. My K/D has never been higher this season and ash is definitely my knew main. I want to get really good with her and eventually get her heirloom
Update on this, I still main ash and I just got heirloom shards randomly and got hers. I definitely have complaints on her ult now. I wish I could aim it better, it’s just so janky. The range it goes is not far and you travel pretty slow and it’s so hard to get it exactly where you want it especially on controller. I still think she’s a sleeper pick with some great potential but she needs some fine tuning imo
Those 80 rounds per slot are amazing. Ash + PK + havok
I've done the same this week ...went from start of game from bloodhound to. Horizon to valk now I've found ash
@@CNORYN use the teleport and land it above a bin, open it and port dissapears
I hope ash will be upgraded because for some of us she is the coolest legend and with all her corks I still main her.
Same she's my main
The first step of being an Ash main is realizing she’s bottom tier.
Two arc sneers should already be in her kit. They need to double the distance of her ultimate and also fix the issue where you have to clip onto something to use it you should be able to freely use it when looking in any direction, you literally cannot look up into the air and use her old. It’s so badand fix her passive passive is mediocre. I would play Ash if she was a better more fun character.
Cloudy is insane at Ash and makes her look good. But does Ash struggle and do you like an Ash on the team? What do you all think?
Love this series, are there any other "focus on" episodes?
I feel like compared to a fuse q, bang q or maggie q, the q of ash is way to weak, even if you could throw it while healing. The q is just as bad, as ballistics.
The ult is nice, even if it could be a bit longer. The biggest problem is the placing accuracy and reliability.
I mean, ash has a portable map-room with the 60sec. perk for her passive, but still she's seen as a bottom tier legend.
Love Ash. As an Ash main her biggest struggle is most definitely the ult distance & targeting. Even though the ult is fantastic. My thoughts to increase her effectiveness is making her ult 85-120m instead of the 63(which I think is why her ult has targeting issues, it's just to short to lock on to where people want to go) and get rid of the enemy callout perk at lv 2 for an extra Ult Charge so she can ult twice. Giving her an extra charge would allow for her mobility to rival her competition (although I understand she isn't a skirmisher and do not want her as one). I'd love to see 90m and 2 charges on the ult with a perk. I'd also be fine with a perk giving her a 120m on the ult with no additional charge. Either way replace the callout perk for an ult buff. Hell you can replace both lv 2 perk with those ult perks and I'd be completely happy. Idc about either lv 2 perk.
Also I'm not understanding the hate for her and her Q. Her kit is why I main her. The outplay potential when your decent at the game is nuts.
Ash is the perfect mix of offensive and defensive at the same time. I feel like people sleep on that fact.
I am an Ash Main. I had her unlocked on my Switch account. But i have re obtained her on my Xbox account. Time to Grind again!!
Tbh ash does need a little work, but she's not as bad as everyone thinks she is honestly. She's simply not as brain dead as other champs so not everyone can just pick her up like that, certain legends require a level of game knowledge to really get the best out of the legends skill set(most of the assault legends, crypto and newcastle)
Yea your right. Ass a newcastle main its really rough to play because my teammates always leave me behind. Yes i can ult but they never give me LOS
@@milanodeschnitzel7495This doesnt even matter. You cant set the powerlevel of the character fix while playing solo with randoms.
True, but the main problem with ash is her ultimate. They need to fix the marker for where the portal goes and need to increase distance. As for her tactical it does not capture the enemy quick enough. Although its good its not immediate you can see her trap coming from a mile away and in close range combat it takes a second or two to activate even if its directly thrown on the floor in front of the enemy. Yes ash does require some knowledge of the legend itself. It is certainly not lowest picked legend just because of peoples level of game knowledge. Her skill set needs to be fixed all together even possibly reworked.
Whoever is playing Ash is insane. That movement and those flicks were nasty as hell.
Does her level 1 perks actually show up on the full map? Looking for confirmation on this. Thanks for the upload
Yes, and it tracks like a Blackbird/SR-71 from call of duty.
I really like the twin snare. If you hit one, follow up with the second and an arc star. Easy one
She should be able to throw her tac just like other legends without stopping momentum or healing
She needs a full rework like Rev.
Ash is definitely one of the by far worst legends in the game.
Respawn nerfed ash ult to 2 and a half minutes! No one is talking about it..
True
they just undid that nerf, supposdley it is just 120secs now
i use ash and it does feel alot faster in game now
@@murezy they stealth reverted it back to the way it was before their tweet
CLOUDY THE GOAT
Any updates on ash as of today. 5.21. :) I’ve been playing her a lot but I’m new with her still.
Cloudy the best Gibby ive ever seen
I randomly got her Fallen Angel skin from a pack and want to start using her now lol
I didn’t even know you could portal in the air lol
Ash's ult could be reworked into 2 40 meter charges. Each charge has a minute cooldown. As well as smooth it out so its easier to place & quicker to use.
Her q needs to be one handed already and
When existing in the world have a bigger radius to cover more space & people caught in this bigger snare are binded longer, from 4s to 6s
But throwing & landing it on players directly has it act the same as usual but gives a little less space for victims to move in.
Also the movement speed while holding the snare is increased to unholstered sprint speed from weapon sprint speed
Finally for her passive, an addition. Anyone enemy who has dealt dmg to a player you killed will allow you to ping that dead player's deathbox & ping their location.
Passive can be used 10 meters away from a deathbox.
I really hate these videos.
Not that it’s bad content.
But these players would be great on any character they play.
Their amongst the best in the game
But imagine how big of chad they are picking the legend who just looks cool
The thing about ash (without even watching this video) is that she’s a perfectly good character if you don’t know how to play her just play someone else don’t complain until she’s changed and ruined for all of us Ash mains.
Maybe a slight buff is needed to the ult placement but that’s PLACEMENT and a BUFF a CHANGE is the last thing ash needs, the annoying thing ab the “reborn” legends is you’re basically ruining a character a bunch of mains already enjoy playing
The legend is good of the player is good. Im convinced that everyone has a legend meant for them and their playstyle
Just rework her already.
I just don't want them to get rid of her snares if they do
i like rev and ash
Why is ash not a skrimish legend
Cuz skirmishers have a movement passive and or a movement tac and can include a movement ult like octane and valk but ash only movement is her ult
@@royalrogue9236 makes sense
Why is pathfinder not a skirmisher lol he has a movement tactical and a movement ult. I have no idea what his passive is anymore though
@@CNORYN path is a skrimisher
I don’t think she’s bottom tier. At the end of the day although the abilities do matter your aim and gaming iq is what will make you win. She’s the quietest legend in the game
Ash Reborn
Ashes kit just lacks both ima thematic sense and a competitive sense
Her passive is useless and very rarely does the scan portion actually come into play which should be the main selling point of the passive, the scans should be more frequent such as every time you get a kill and scan the box you can find their teammates and perhaps the scans could do more then be a ordinary scan maybe have it buff ash in some way by reducing ultimate cooldown or something as well
Her tactical is practical yet it’s very boring, the twin snare buff should honestly just be basekit with the QoL change of it being one handed
And finally her ultimate it’s yet again practical but incredibly boring, there’s nothing really special about it it’s a portal but you don’t really need that when pathfinder, octane, and wraith have team mobility as well and it’s inherently less safe but it’s ultimately doesn’t really matter because they can do it just as fast and precise and the downside of it not being as quick and precise can be ignored because of how effective those legends are regardless if their team mobility is slightly less safe
The ultimate needs a rework to be something stronger and not just a single quick teleport because that is incredibly boring, like it’s not a bad ultimate but for being a ultimate it could definitely do more
Such as having a alternate mode where you can use the ultimate at 50% and use the teleport twice but leave no portal while the other mode is a double ranged teleport that leaves a portal for teammates you knock 2 birds with 1 stone by making the ultimate flexible since ash after all is a very flexible legend with scans, lockdown, AND mobility
Well, how she does. She was pretty good when her snare was 24 secs lol
Ash does not suck come on.
I had this cloudy guy in my lobby yesterday, he wasn't anything special I had taken him down in 1v1 and did a finisher as well as a bonus..
Yeahhhhhh definitely...