wow those capacitors are awesome! I wasn't aware of the 3-terminal ones, but it's an option on the GX series. According to panasonic it lowers ESL by 50% These also have the lowest ESR of any SMD molded 470 uF capacitor at 3 milliohms. They're also really expensive at $.607 for 10,000. I looked up those tantalum polymers on the back and according to the package codes (N eJ8) they are Vishay T55 series(N) 2.5V(e) 220 uF(J8) and they sorta look like B-case which is the smallest size they come in. ESR for that is 25-70 mOhms. $0.444 in qty 24,000 For comparison they do make 220 uF MLCCs in 1206 size (b-case is 1411 so 1206 is a little smaller) which cost $0.417 in qty 4000. 47uF MLCC in 0805 only costs $0.085 for qty 3000 Anyway there's a surprising amount of options here, and high capacitance MLCCs are really expensive, as are low-ESR aluminum polymer and tantalum. I had specified the panasonic molded type capcitors for a 2-phase I designed but they were so expensive they upped the BOM cost by quite a bit and I had to go back to cheaper SMD can type. I'm going to edit the layout to accept either size so if the cans don't perform as well I can just order molded ones.
The Impact has Japanese 10K capacitors, the Strix 5K Taiwanese. It is 1.25 inch longer and uses that space for a SO-DIMM.2 Slot with 2 x M.2 Sockets. It has a much bigger heatsink and weighs 2 pounds more, making it almost twice as heavy. It also has better sound, better RGB and other stuff like optimem III, whatever that really means. In Europe the price difference is about 50 euro. Obviously I bought the Impact.
Here in the US the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Impact X570 is $430 and the ASUS Strix X570i Gaming is $260. That's a $170 difference, so opting for the Strix will appeal to many especially if those differences aren't that important to them. Also o some of the smaller ITX cases the Mini-DTX Impact won't fit. If the Price difference where just $50 here I'd likely opt for the Impact (case permitting), as it stands I'd have to decide once the time comes sometime next year.
@@ELVERTGONNE Not in Germany, I bought it for € 359,= at Alternate.de and got 2 x 25 euro cash back. You can get the Strix for € 289,= minus 20 euro cashback, so the difference is actually only 40 euro. In Europe we pay too much for the Strix, while in the US they pay too much for the Impact.
@@TheLinkedList Try this: www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/6769037_-rog-crosshair-viii-impact-asus.html Delivery to the UK costs between 9 and 25 euro, depending on where you order, so you could get the board for around £325 including delivery or even less if you order before the 28th (at a participating shop) and get the cashbacks. After Brexit prices will go up.
Do also have this board and I´m really satisfied at the moment with the 3900x. Only negative is not to change the fan curve of the chipset fan - hope Asus will fix that.
I just ordered mine today for a gaming rig (I build a new gaming pc every 5 to 7 years, need it or not) and this vid just showed up in my youtube channel.. thanks Amazon. (Now, why it didn't show up when the board was on my wish list... that's when it would have been useful!) Anyway, I'll take luck over brains. So glad I chose this one! I'm pairing it with a 3900 - couldn't justify the 3950 for gaming - just no real enough improvement at high video settings. Can't wait to get it up and running!
I’m glad to see that this board is good. I just built my mini ITX build and turns out my board was defective. ASUS told me to RMA the board after talking with them. I was looking around to see what I should get to replace it. But it seems the only other decent board is the DTX board Asus makes but it’s $450 that’s just insane.
I have a rampage 4 extreme... and I REALLY want that rampage encore with its 16 70amp powerstages...yes that's an IMPRESSIVE board. I have the rampage VI omega zenith extreme alpha.. zenith extreme x399 and crosshair 8 IMPACT here next to me. The impact is my favorite. 😁
You MB videos are very insightful, and to answer your question about thunderbolt 3, it’s not super useful on desktop, but in essence it can pass a PCI-e 4x connection and 100w power in either direction, don’t know how this works with desktop however, the most useful thing I can think of it being used for on desktop essentially ITX is mass storage array boxes (4+ raid in a box) or external 10G Ethernet
Glad to see Asus getting back on track with their AM4 ITX boards. Their B350/370i, from my understanding actually had a better VRM than their B450i board.
Intel wifi AX200 chip on this board has max operating temperature 80 deg Celcius. If you mount stock AMD cooler (especially with 3900x or hotter CPU with over 90 degrees under load) on in that pushes hot air down and around, it is not outside of realms of possibility to get thermal throttling of WiFi adapter (speaking from experience). So I wouldn't say this motherboard is entirely immune to high temperature problems just due to efficient VRM section as certain airflow configurations will still 'cook' it. Also worth mentioning, surface mounted circuits (and heatsink) on the back of the motherboard get in the way of mounting support backplate provided with some CPU coolers (than do not reuse one provided with motherboard) making it unable to use them. One infamous example I learned hard way is Deepcool Assassin III. Check cooler mounting before the purchase.
i'm buying this and put a 3400g on it as a placeholder till ryzen 4950x or 5950x and rtx 3080 and that's it, that will be my next gaming (and editing) rig for the next 5 years.
Thanks for the in-depth summary of the motherboard. May we see a full 40 minute BIOS walkthrough with an 8-core or greater CPU with 4000Mhz ram or faster? Thanks
Lol and I'm guessing all the other manufacturers magically decided the same thing when pricing their motherboards at the exact same level. Fuck outta here.
I've heard the thermal pads over the VRMs are pretty bad and need replaced. Did you encounter similar issues or no? Seriously considering this board to go with the CM NR200 with the Noctua NH-C14S air cooler and would like your input before purchasing.
I would have bought this if it came out a few days earlier; the Asrock x570 itx board was (and still is) on sale so I got that one; so far it seems pretty good at memory overclocking, much better than the x570m I had for a brief time. Cooler compatibility of the Asrock board is super annoying though, who thought it was a good idea to surround the socket with heat sinks on three sides?
Hey fun question anyone know what the Model is for Replacement BIOS Battery, I'm aware it's CR2032 but it's connected to a Molex, Fantastic Motherboard but shit Bios Battery the Asus Laptop battery with similar setup is not supported.
@@TenmaWhite for stock 8 cores, it will be just fine... Heavily overclocked? Depends on what you think is heavily... I was running all cores @4.4GHz / 1.5 V... Stable at around 85C in Prime 95 with Kraken x62... But I dialed the voltage down to 1.35V because I didn't want to run such high voltage through my CPU... Of course the clocks went down as well...
@@TenmaWhite yeah, I do. And temps are on very comfortable levels. I have a good case with proper airflow. I will let you know precise numbers later when I get home. But I wouldn't do such thing (4,4Ghz / 1.5 V) with 8 cores, I would be afraid to blow up my mobo.
Would you even need the VRM or Chipset fans if running a low-profile top-down air cooler with a 150mm fan? With how efficient the VRM is I would assume not, but the chipset is kind of hidden under the M.2 bridge and might struggle to get proper airflow to stay cool without the fan running.
The only thing that I am wondering is where is the internal usb-c header. I really don't wanna bother with intel just to have that functionality or am I missing something. Go easy on me I'm new to this.
Well, being overkill is better than an underkill right? So often motherboard VRMs not good enough or just enough which mean they're no good for overclocking.
I have now seem the breakdown of the 3 x570 mini-itx boards, and the only conclusions I've reached, is that it should not be the asus board... probably. The point being that I've been unable to decide which is actually best. I'm not talking price, that's really besides the point, but the rest. If there is one thing that is of significant importance, it's the memory controller, which should preferably be as good as possible, in order to, ideally, reaching those 4000MHz, while still being able to reach at least 32gb capacity, and preferably 64gb (for my purposes). Does anyone have a recommendation in these regards?
@Buildzoid, I've watched your videos for this and the other x570 itx boards. IIRC they all have 2 phase SOC VRMs? If that recollection is correct, then there doesnt seem to be much difference between them for APU purposes (with the possible exception of the Asrock phantom due to the maybe dicey memory layout). It would be really great if you could address the APU question more in depth since we seem to be on the brink of seeing much more powerful desktop parts than before. Among a number of questions on the topic, I'm very curious about things like: How much potential for iGPU overclocking do any of these boards have? Is there a conflict between memory overclocking to benefit the iGPU, and the 3600MHz optimum for the Zen architecture?
I have the same query about APU performance in those mobos. As i remember there are may not a right option for a APU to Aorus x570i due to 2 phases vrm dedicated in SOC only said by BZ in that review(if i was no wrong in mind).
@@waatup Exactly. This monolithic design severely limits cooler choice only because the want to use a giant chunk of crappy aluminum to save a buck and dress up the I/O. Seems senseless on ITX
@@zoomzabba452 I would've preferred Gigabyte's X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI if not for the many DOA reviews. That one seems to offer the most space for the cooler, and it has active cooling for the SSD too!
i have the Crosshair 8 Impact and the only thing that i dont like that much is that doesn't fit in all mini itx cases. Beside that it's amazing. and another thing the Bios reset button save me many times when i go wrong with the OC.
Since you can't really put any of those two under LN2 anyways, for ambient overclocking they are going to be virtually the same. I personally prefer Gigabytes BIOS.
So i bought an asus z370-f for very cheap on ebay and it was sold because the owner wanted to upgrade to a hero board. So far pretty ordinary. However it was bundled with an EK Monoblock. My question: With good thermal pads wouldn't the monoblock easily cool the 22, 28 or more watts of heat this vrm produces or are there other issues for stable ocs ?
this board vs the msi b450i gaming plus ac which is better in term of overclock 3900x :/ back then i remember the msi b450i kinda best itx mobo for 350/450/370/470 itx mobo
Taking that graphics card which has it's middle fan spin in the wrong direction and adding it to this mobo with this missing piece and pin hole... I think that might just be the greatest OCD nightmare ever conceived MUHHHHAAAAAAAHHHAHAAAAAAA
I'm really confused, are there any advantages to the VIII Impact over the X570-I Strix? - The only difference I can see Is cosmetic and the Impact does not support the Noctua D15 cooler while the Strix does, which seems like quite an advantage at a lower price??
I'm really trying to pick a board out for an itx build and you're either fanboying really hard or had too much caffeine before shooting this video. I love your in depth coverage of boards, but I'm halfway into this video and while I can tell you like this vrm, I'm just finding out how it stacks up against the gigabyte or the ASRock.
@@Hellbryan1 That's a fair point, but my point was that he doesn't give empirical numbers on it for a long time, so unless you've seen the impact review already, it's 19 minutes in before I know they're 70 amp phases on a 4x2+2 configuration.
I still have the Strix B350-F but I cannot run my GSkill C16 memory stable at 3200MHz though it is the advertised XMP so I run it at 2933MHz C14 v1.38 and I am thinking about getting Strix B450 or B550 so I can run it at declared speed of 3200 ... Should I bother, are B450 that better than B350? ... Strix X470 is too expensive anyway.
I hear that X chipset uses AMD-manufactured chip, while B (350, 450, 550) uses ASMedia-manufactured and lower quality for PCB (lower number of layers) which makes memory signal weaker, hence lower memory OC though I am not aiming higher than 3200Mhz, but I might upgrade to 3700x next year.
@@BTech2077 My B-450 Strix-F (not ITX) had no problem running 3,200 MHz CL16 on either the 2600 or 2700X I tested. That's just my anecdotal experience.
this board only has a cmos delete jumper right? is there any way to add or connect some kind of button to this, so that for overclocking it is less an issue?
Great videos, I need some advice, Asus strix x570-i or MSI x570 tomahawk for 3D modeling and gaming and not taking in consideration the form factor.I have an amd 3700x to pair with. Any help will be appreciated !!
This board is for 12-16 Cores with pretty good overclocks. Tomahawk can do the same and is cheaper. If You don't care the form factor, rhen go for the Tomahawk, mini itx is for people who cares for the form factor.
I bought the gigabyte because a) I'm using a 6 core (Dan Case isn't really able to cool an OCed 12 core) b) it was actually available at launch, and Asus not only wasn't but didn't say when they would be
The only thing I really feel I missed out on was debug features. Not having those sucks. Especially because they released a bad ABBA bios (or it flashed wrong for whatever reason), and I eventually (after trying to debug with no post codes or LEDs) had to get the board RMAed and bios chip swapped (at my expense for shipping, which always sucks)
More room, but much less dimm selection. The other downside is the increased height of vertical SO-DIMMs could interfere with more coolers. There must be issues with it, otherwise we'd see it on more boards. There was the Asrock X299 with 4 of them, but that was for more channels and an application not geared towards overclocking.
@@seitenryu6844 there are some differences like theoretical max capacity, support for ECC etc. Also, for the same speed and capacity, SODIMM tends to be a bit more expensive. on the other hand, on mini ITX, SODIMM will make room for more M.2, USB headers, fan headers, temp/flow sensor headers and of course - more room for VRM. Lets not forget, this is ryzen - no practical point of going beyond 3600Mhz for the RAM. So i do want to see use of SODIMS on ITX boards
Interesting. The Gigabyte 550i with 90A SPS produces more heat at 150A than this vrm. But it produces less heat than the Asus board at 100A. And the Asus board is much cooler at 200A.
@Ivan Martinez-Kay Yea it exists, it's just not for sale in the U.S yet as far as newegg and such. Can get it off ebay from the U.K. it's listed on pcpartpicker, just with no price. seems to usually be around $175.
@Ivan Martinez-Kay I've had trouble finding specifics, but they're upgraded from the F version.,likely a 5 (x2 components)+2 phase.www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-E-GAMING/
the chipset fan is the worst thing this motherboard has, you cant control it and it gets realy loud, like 8000rpm due to chipset getting as hot as the gpu gets, is a common issue with this board. So sad that this is basically the best motherboard when it comes to run a 12/16 core on mini itx but the chipset is horrendous. Fan gets loud af, gpu thermals are worse due to chipset temps being high even at idle. So yeah, the better option is the b550i from aorus, vrms almost as good but chipset runs cooler and is pasively cooled.
I've been rocking a Asus Strix B350-I Gaming for two years almost now. I find the whole series hasn't changed that much (except the VRM change, but OK). So my real gripe with this board is that it doesn't have a 10 gigabit ethernet. I think that is the only thing you really need for sa single workstation GPU configuration. And I'm also a bit sad that they've removed PCIe Gen4 support from the B350-I, B450-I, X370-I and X470-I since from what I've seen. On this custom designed board they wouldn't probably have a problem with it. (ergo why it was enabled in the first place).
Has anyone ever tried to claim a warranty with ASUS? They blamed me for damage at the bottom of a X470i Strix board after it was working for a 8 months. Their warranty is a sham. Never ASUS again.
Just bought this board to replace the gigabyte x570 itx board. The Asus terrible. The heatsink is the cheapest thing I've ever seen, the fans super thin and irreplaceable. And, the VRM heatsink blocks the long arms of the Noctua AM4 mounting bracket. Good one Asus.
I just installed a Noctua NH-U12A on there no problem. Well, actually at first I thought I was gonna have that issue with the mounting arms too. Then I realized I had them upside down...🤪
@@eljeffedeloda you can fit it, you loose the option of using the long arms of the mounting kit, so can only mount one orientation. Minor nitpick, but Ryzen is easier to cool depending on the the direction of the heat pipes (think 2 chiplets sharing a single heat pipe)
@@TheLinkedList Not sure which cooler you are using, but I think Noctua designed the NH-U12A to only sit in one orientation. In the instructions it said the longer arm was to face the RAM modules. I thought this was for more RAM compatibility, but now I wonder if they did that to line up the heat pipes with the chiplets.
@@eljeffedeloda I don't know if you have this issue, but this Asus board doesn't report the current memory voltage in the bios (right hand column) or in Ryzen Master. Is that the same for you?
@@TheLinkedList I'll have to check. I just put the system together and checked to make sure it booted to BIOS. Didn't look closely at any of the details though. The power supply I got had cables that were way too long for my case and I had to order the short cable kit for decent cable management. Those are supposed to be delivered tomorrow and work should be a bit less crazy then too so I'll check then and get back to you.
Pity this board is not good for Zen3. I know because I bought one for my 5950X. I see Optimum Tech here on YT had the same problems as me. Avoid until BIOS matures I think.
I literally just picked up the same thing. I haven't put it together but the board now comes with support for 5000 series out of the box. Hoping for the best at this point.
@@JaleelKing The latest BIOS that was released in the last few days does not suffer from any WHEA errors over 1600 IF clock unlike the previous BIOS versions. But only gained about 100 more points in CB20. my 5950X on this board is still 900 points behind every review of the 5950X elsewhere.
I'm glad I can see more content on Strix X570-I. All I could find before was an unboxing video in german
Very worth it
i watched that video too, it was actually pretty good
Which video?
GucksTV xD
Thanks! I was literally just looking for an overview of this board!
Also just noticed, I think there is one major feature the impact had that this does not, it does not have the bios flashback button...
wow those capacitors are awesome! I wasn't aware of the 3-terminal ones, but it's an option on the GX series. According to panasonic it lowers ESL by 50% These also have the lowest ESR of any SMD molded 470 uF capacitor at 3 milliohms. They're also really expensive at $.607 for 10,000.
I looked up those tantalum polymers on the back and according to the package codes (N eJ8) they are Vishay T55 series(N) 2.5V(e) 220 uF(J8) and they sorta look like B-case which is the smallest size they come in. ESR for that is 25-70 mOhms. $0.444 in qty 24,000
For comparison they do make 220 uF MLCCs in 1206 size (b-case is 1411 so 1206 is a little smaller) which cost $0.417 in qty 4000. 47uF MLCC in 0805 only costs $0.085 for qty 3000
Anyway there's a surprising amount of options here, and high capacitance MLCCs are really expensive, as are low-ESR aluminum polymer and tantalum.
I had specified the panasonic molded type capcitors for a 2-phase I designed but they were so expensive they upped the BOM cost by quite a bit and I had to go back to cheaper SMD can type. I'm going to edit the layout to accept either size so if the cans don't perform as well I can just order molded ones.
EK has recently launched a monoblock for this board which even covers the chipset along with the VRM and the CPU, eliminates both the tiny fans.
I literally just bought this board!
Where from dude?
@@eydleman Amazon!
@@AdamBrackney Amazon UK ? It's £300 🙈
i got one from ebay for 250$
@@Let-Make-It-Happen need something for my 3800x lol im still debating
The Impact has Japanese 10K capacitors, the Strix 5K Taiwanese. It is 1.25 inch longer and uses that space for a SO-DIMM.2 Slot with 2 x M.2 Sockets. It has a much bigger heatsink and weighs 2 pounds more, making it almost twice as heavy. It also has better sound, better RGB and other stuff like optimem III, whatever that really means. In Europe the price difference is about 50 euro. Obviously I bought the Impact.
Here in the US the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Impact X570 is $430 and the ASUS Strix X570i Gaming is $260. That's a $170 difference, so opting for the Strix will appeal to many especially if those differences aren't that important to them. Also o some of the smaller ITX cases the Mini-DTX Impact won't fit.
If the Price difference where just $50 here I'd likely opt for the Impact (case permitting), as it stands I'd have to decide once the time comes sometime next year.
Where do you get the Impact for only 50 euros more?? In France, Spain and Germany they are 140/160 euros more expensive than the Strix.
@@ELVERTGONNE Not in Germany, I bought it for € 359,= at Alternate.de and got 2 x 25 euro cash back.
You can get the Strix for € 289,= minus 20 euro cashback, so the difference is actually only 40 euro.
In Europe we pay too much for the Strix, while in the US they pay too much for the Impact.
@@doubledutch3439 it is £265 for the Strix in the UK and the Impact is £370
@@TheLinkedList Try this: www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/6769037_-rog-crosshair-viii-impact-asus.html
Delivery to the UK costs between 9 and 25 euro, depending on where you order, so you could get the board for around £325 including delivery or even less if you order before the 28th (at a participating shop) and get the cashbacks. After Brexit prices will go up.
Do also have this board and I´m really satisfied at the moment with the 3900x. Only negative is not to change the fan curve of the chipset fan - hope Asus will fix that.
i am suffering from the same issue with my X570 Strix-E (ATX).... and the Crosshair VIII Hero has already that option!!!
Interested in this board. 'Did they?
@@olafweyer859 only with custom bios. But this is available...
I purchased this board to pair with a 3900x after watching this. Great video!
you should get some affiliate links setup. even if just through amazon
I just ordered mine today for a gaming rig (I build a new gaming pc every 5 to 7 years, need it or not) and this vid just showed up in my youtube channel.. thanks Amazon. (Now, why it didn't show up when the board was on my wish list... that's when it would have been useful!) Anyway, I'll take luck over brains. So glad I chose this one! I'm pairing it with a 3900 - couldn't justify the 3950 for gaming - just no real enough improvement at high video settings. Can't wait to get it up and running!
lol i just did the same bud, went 3900x as well. putting it in a lian li tu150. This video literally popped into my feed after checkout lmao
Me too. Pairing with a 3200g because why not.
@@gordongoodman8342 Been using it for 9 months and I love it! No complaints at all.
I’m glad to see that this board is good. I just built my mini ITX build and turns out my board was defective. ASUS told me to RMA the board after talking with them. I was looking around to see what I should get to replace it. But it seems the only other decent board is the DTX board Asus makes but it’s $450 that’s just insane.
Thank you for the review/breakdown of this board and the Gigabyte variant. I was leaning toward the Strix and this pushed me the rest of the way.
Please do a PCB breakdown video of the Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
Isn't it a 6 phase with 60A IR3555?
@@rcradiator all I know is that it's a IR3555
The Ace's VCore is identical to the Strix-E so don't worry about it tripping OTP.
I have a rampage 4 extreme... and I REALLY want that rampage encore with its 16 70amp powerstages...yes that's an IMPRESSIVE board.
I have the rampage VI omega zenith extreme alpha.. zenith extreme x399 and crosshair 8 IMPACT here next to me. The impact is my favorite. 😁
I think I'm sticking to the Impact.....at the mo. Just because of the easier waterblock placement. Cheers for the in-depth look though bud. 👍
enjoyed the video, had the board for awhile now and love it!
You MB videos are very insightful, and to answer your question about thunderbolt 3, it’s not super useful on desktop, but in essence it can pass a PCI-e 4x connection and 100w power in either direction, don’t know how this works with desktop however, the most useful thing I can think of it being used for on desktop essentially ITX is mass storage array boxes (4+ raid in a box) or external 10G Ethernet
Glad to see Asus getting back on track with their AM4 ITX boards. Their B350/370i, from my understanding actually had a better VRM than their B450i board.
It's not a tremendous difference. They downgraded the power stages from 50A to 40A power stages, but it's still the same layout.
Intel wifi AX200 chip on this board has max operating temperature 80 deg Celcius. If you mount stock AMD cooler (especially with 3900x or hotter CPU with over 90 degrees under load) on in that pushes hot air down and around, it is not outside of realms of possibility to get thermal throttling of WiFi adapter (speaking from experience). So I wouldn't say this motherboard is entirely immune to high temperature problems just due to efficient VRM section as certain airflow configurations will still 'cook' it.
Also worth mentioning, surface mounted circuits (and heatsink) on the back of the motherboard get in the way of mounting support backplate provided with some CPU coolers (than do not reuse one provided with motherboard) making it unable to use them. One infamous example I learned hard way is Deepcool Assassin III. Check cooler mounting before the purchase.
i'm buying this and put a 3400g on it as a placeholder till ryzen 4950x or 5950x and rtx 3080 and that's it, that will be my next gaming (and editing) rig for the next 5 years.
did u build it yet?
Thanks for the in-depth summary of the motherboard. May we see a full 40 minute BIOS walkthrough with an 8-core or greater CPU with 4000Mhz ram or faster? Thanks
Asus knew nobody would ever buy a $300 ITX motherboard. So they made the Crosshair so now this looks like a great deal.
smart guy u are
Lol and I'm guessing all the other manufacturers magically decided the same thing when pricing their motherboards at the exact same level. Fuck outta here.
My first motherboard was a old Nvidia 680I (I wish I had kept it) and it has kept me as a fan boy to this day
I've heard the thermal pads over the VRMs are pretty bad and need replaced. Did you encounter similar issues or no? Seriously considering this board to go with the CM NR200 with the Noctua NH-C14S air cooler and would like your input before purchasing.
I would have bought this if it came out a few days earlier; the Asrock x570 itx board was (and still is) on sale so I got that one; so far it seems pretty good at memory overclocking, much better than the x570m I had for a brief time. Cooler compatibility of the Asrock board is super annoying though, who thought it was a good idea to surround the socket with heat sinks on three sides?
Hey fun question anyone know what the Model is for Replacement BIOS Battery, I'm aware it's CR2032 but it's connected to a Molex, Fantastic Motherboard but shit Bios Battery the Asus Laptop battery with similar setup is not supported.
Will GIGABYTE AORUS NVMe Gen4 M.2 1TB fits into this board? given the sizable heatsinks of baard and M.2
16:38 there is a 90A version of these now
really wanted to see this one.
X470-F... yeah. Before I found your channel.
X470-F is a solid board
Why isn’t this board compatible w/ a 3600x cpu?
None of the youtubers has checked what WiFi chip is in there. Is it modular or not?
ok... now i feel stupid putting a Ryzen 5 3600 on this...
hopefully future Ryzen CPUs are also backwards compatible
I did it the opposite way... Put R5 3600X on Strix B350-I... The board is fine though...
Tomáš Jelínek lol
@@TenmaWhite Depends... If you plan to overclock, I would suggest to stick to 6 core... But for stock? Sure go ahead.
@@TenmaWhite for stock 8 cores, it will be just fine... Heavily overclocked? Depends on what you think is heavily... I was running all cores @4.4GHz / 1.5 V... Stable at around 85C in Prime 95 with Kraken x62... But I dialed the voltage down to 1.35V because I didn't want to run such high voltage through my CPU... Of course the clocks went down as well...
@@TenmaWhite yeah, I do. And temps are on very comfortable levels. I have a good case with proper airflow. I will let you know precise numbers later when I get home. But I wouldn't do such thing (4,4Ghz / 1.5 V) with 8 cores, I would be afraid to blow up my mobo.
Why would someone buy the Crosshair VIII Impact over this? would this handle the 5950x or the new coming v cache chips?
Would you even need the VRM or Chipset fans if running a low-profile top-down air cooler with a 150mm fan? With how efficient the VRM is I would assume not, but the chipset is kind of hidden under the M.2 bridge and might struggle to get proper airflow to stay cool without the fan running.
The only thing that I am wondering is where is the internal usb-c header. I really don't wanna bother with intel just to have that functionality or am I missing something. Go easy on me I'm new to this.
Well, being overkill is better than an underkill right? So often motherboard VRMs not good enough or just enough which mean they're no good for overclocking.
Great vid sir. Does the Intel Z590-i have the same VRM as this one?
U think this iscthe best choice for 3900x?
And for i9900k? Still itx ?
I have now seem the breakdown of the 3 x570 mini-itx boards, and the only conclusions I've reached, is that it should not be the asus board... probably.
The point being that I've been unable to decide which is actually best. I'm not talking price, that's really besides the point, but the rest.
If there is one thing that is of significant importance, it's the memory controller, which should preferably be as good as possible, in order to, ideally, reaching those 4000MHz, while still being able to reach at least 32gb capacity, and preferably 64gb (for my purposes).
Does anyone have a recommendation in these regards?
@Buildzoid, I've watched your videos for this and the other x570 itx boards. IIRC they all have 2 phase SOC VRMs? If that recollection is correct, then there doesnt seem to be much difference between them for APU purposes (with the possible exception of the Asrock phantom due to the maybe dicey memory layout).
It would be really great if you could address the APU question more in depth since we seem to be on the brink of seeing much more powerful desktop parts than before. Among a number of questions on the topic, I'm very curious about things like: How much potential for iGPU overclocking do any of these boards have? Is there a conflict between memory overclocking to benefit the iGPU, and the 3600MHz optimum for the Zen architecture?
I have the same query about APU performance in those mobos.
As i remember there are may not a right option for a APU to Aorus x570i due to 2 phases vrm dedicated in SOC only said by BZ in that review(if i was no wrong in mind).
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Great board. Pretty much water cooling only in any SFF build thanks to the giant VRM cooler + I/O shroud.
Even one of my AIOs didn't fit on my asrock x570 itx board
@@waatup Exactly. This monolithic design severely limits cooler choice only because the want to use a giant chunk of crappy aluminum to save a buck and dress up the I/O. Seems senseless on ITX
@@zoomzabba452 I would've preferred Gigabyte's X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI if not for the many DOA reviews. That one seems to offer the most space for the cooler, and it has active cooling for the SSD too!
@@waatup I'm planning on using the Gigabyte, but won't be able to afford until B550 is out, so we'll see what changes. 3700X in Sliger SM550.
Actually, the Noctua NH-U12A will fit on this board.
Where is the chipset located? Is it directly under the fan somehow and stuck to the plastic cover?
i have the Crosshair 8 Impact and the only thing that i dont like that much is that doesn't fit in all mini itx cases. Beside that it's amazing. and another thing the Bios reset button save me many times when i go wrong with the OC.
Does this board mini-itx, manufactured recently, still hold up today with the Ryzen 9 5000 series cpus?
Yes , Im using r7 5800x with this board . But you have to update bios with lower grade cpu . ( If it was manufactured before 5k series ) .
Is this better than the x570 gigabite itx?
Since you can't really put any of those two under LN2 anyways, for ambient overclocking they are going to be virtually the same. I personally prefer Gigabytes BIOS.
So is this better than aorus x570i or the other way around? Looking to buy an x570 itx
It feels like half of the words in the video is ''doubler"
did you find any cmos jumper on this?
So i bought an asus z370-f for very cheap on ebay and it was sold because the owner wanted to upgrade to a hero board. So far pretty ordinary.
However it was bundled with an EK Monoblock.
My question: With good thermal pads wouldn't the monoblock easily cool the 22, 28 or more watts of heat this vrm produces or are there other issues for stable ocs ?
I prefer this board over the Impart. Same VRM but $120 cheaper.
i also wondered the same thing. why would one go for the crosshair viii impact then? can someone please enlighten me? cos im stuck
So, is this better than asrock or gigabyte itx boards? I want an answer. Please answer for my build.
nice video! great content.
this board vs the msi b450i gaming plus ac which is better in term of overclock 3900x :/ back then i remember the msi b450i kinda best itx mobo for 350/450/370/470 itx mobo
I'd go for this
Where is the chipset located, under the M.2 board thing?
Yes exactly!
was the uncore that freak thing that roman once showed with like 4 16x pcie slots in 3 slot spacing in a weird form factor?
www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Rampage-VI-Extreme-Encore/
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Ah sorry what I meant was the rampage V extreme black edition
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Taking that graphics card which has it's middle fan spin in the wrong direction and adding it to this mobo with this missing piece and pin hole... I think that might just be the greatest OCD nightmare ever conceived MUHHHHAAAAAAAHHHAHAAAAAAA
Could anyone tell me whether this mobo is compatible with AXP100 58mm? Many thanks!
Is the chipsest fan size 40mmx10mm? Would the noctua NF-A4x10 FLX replace the vrm fan fine-ly?
its 30mm i believe
I'm really confused, are there any advantages to the VIII Impact over the X570-I Strix? - The only difference I can see Is cosmetic and the Impact does not support the Noctua D15 cooler while the Strix does, which seems like quite an advantage at a lower price??
basically impact for extreme overclocking involving ln2 and stuff like that
crop/rotate the image to straighten the board?
How/where to send buildzoid fanmail? I've checked on the blog and an address/PO box is nowhere to be found
send me an email about it. I don't have the PO box public so that I don't get sent random junk(only good/intresting junk).
I'm really trying to pick a board out for an itx build and you're either fanboying really hard or had too much caffeine before shooting this video. I love your in depth coverage of boards, but I'm halfway into this video and while I can tell you like this vrm, I'm just finding out how it stacks up against the gigabyte or the ASRock.
well, is the superior board, superior vrms, superior connectivity...
@@Hellbryan1 That's a fair point, but my point was that he doesn't give empirical numbers on it for a long time, so unless you've seen the impact review already, it's 19 minutes in before I know they're 70 amp phases on a 4x2+2 configuration.
What board did you end up going with? I'm still debating.
I still have the Strix B350-F but I cannot run my GSkill C16 memory stable at 3200MHz though it is the advertised XMP so I run it at 2933MHz C14 v1.38 and I am thinking about getting Strix B450 or B550 so I can run it at declared speed of 3200 ... Should I bother, are B450 that better than B350? ... Strix X470 is too expensive anyway.
For the VRM, the B-450 and X-470 are identical.
I hear that X chipset uses AMD-manufactured chip, while B (350, 450, 550) uses ASMedia-manufactured and lower quality for PCB (lower number of layers) which makes memory signal weaker, hence lower memory OC though I am not aiming higher than 3200Mhz, but I might upgrade to 3700x next year.
@@BTech2077 My B-450 Strix-F (not ITX) had no problem running 3,200 MHz CL16 on either the 2600 or 2700X I tested. That's just my anecdotal experience.
this board only has a cmos delete jumper right? is there any way to add or connect some kind of button to this, so that for overclocking it is less an issue?
Yeah it would make sense that you could.
But... no USB-C header?
Thunderbolt is used in high end audio interfaces, but that's the only real desktop application I know of
and for hackintosh, external gpus and can output 4k signal, but ain't that worth it unless you are a professional and for that better to go intel
So this or the cross hair I can't decide
Great videos, I need some advice, Asus strix x570-i or MSI x570 tomahawk for 3D modeling and gaming and not taking in consideration the form factor.I have an amd 3700x to pair with. Any help will be appreciated !!
This board is for 12-16 Cores with pretty good overclocks. Tomahawk can do the same and is cheaper.
If You don't care the form factor, rhen go for the Tomahawk, mini itx is for people who cares for the form factor.
Buildzoid, do you think Asus should make an EATX X570 with 10G lan? Like a Crosshair VIII Extreme
hi sir would u considered made some content about power/ signal integrity
I i want to connect 4 case fans to this motherboard. will i need fan splitters? is there enough headers?
Get fan hub
R7 3700X+ASUS CH6+32GB(4X8) B-DIE @3800MHZ (16 17 8 13 28) TRFC1 280 1.45V SOC 1.1V 100% STABLE
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ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming vs ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3 , what is the best mobo ❓❓❓🤔🤔🤔
overclock-wise the asus is much better, asrock has pretty bad reviws on newegg and the only adventage is the thundrbolt 3
I bought the gigabyte because
a) I'm using a 6 core (Dan Case isn't really able to cool an OCed 12 core)
b) it was actually available at launch, and Asus not only wasn't but didn't say when they would be
The only thing I really feel I missed out on was debug features. Not having those sucks. Especially because they released a bad ABBA bios (or it flashed wrong for whatever reason), and I eventually (after trying to debug with no post codes or LEDs) had to get the board RMAed and bios chip swapped (at my expense for shipping, which always sucks)
What would you say for this board with SO-DIMM ? So much more space for good things
More room, but much less dimm selection. The other downside is the increased height of vertical SO-DIMMs could interfere with more coolers. There must be issues with it, otherwise we'd see it on more boards. There was the Asrock X299 with 4 of them, but that was for more channels and an application not geared towards overclocking.
@@seitenryu6844 there are some differences like theoretical max capacity, support for ECC etc. Also, for the same speed and capacity, SODIMM tends to be a bit more expensive.
on the other hand, on mini ITX, SODIMM will make room for more M.2, USB headers, fan headers, temp/flow sensor headers and of course - more room for VRM.
Lets not forget, this is ryzen - no practical point of going beyond 3600Mhz for the RAM.
So i do want to see use of SODIMS on ITX boards
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Interesting. The Gigabyte 550i with 90A SPS produces more heat at 150A than this vrm. But it produces less heat than the Asus board at 100A. And the Asus board is much cooler at 200A.
Thank you!
This or Aorus Pro Wi-Fi? for 3900X
Should take a look at the Rog Strix B450-E Gaming.
@Ivan Martinez-Kay Yea it exists, it's just not for sale in the U.S yet as far as newegg and such. Can get it off ebay from the U.K. it's listed on pcpartpicker, just with no price. seems to usually be around $175.
@Ivan Martinez-Kay I've had trouble finding specifics, but they're upgraded from the F version.,likely a 5 (x2 components)+2 phase.www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-E-GAMING/
Is there a spec sheet that explains where the "Motherboard", "Temp2", "Temp3", "Temp4", and "Temp5" temperature sensors are located on this board?
the chipset fan is the worst thing this motherboard has, you cant control it and it gets realy loud, like 8000rpm due to chipset getting as hot as the gpu gets, is a common issue with this board. So sad that this is basically the best motherboard when it comes to run a 12/16 core on mini itx but the chipset is horrendous. Fan gets loud af, gpu thermals are worse due to chipset temps being high even at idle.
So yeah, the better option is the b550i from aorus, vrms almost as good but chipset runs cooler and is pasively cooled.
0:30 Me too - Asus Rampage IV Gene =)
not enough usb ports, no optical audio :(
Will Asus make a matx ROG for AMD?
@Ivan Martinez-Kay no u
Yes, Asus Bios deepdive............
No digital audio out? Really? Not even a header? oh come on asus for gods sake
I can live with it, just using USB for digital audio out
Aye, my DAC only has one USB and i need that for something else.
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I've been rocking a Asus Strix B350-I Gaming for two years almost now. I find the whole series hasn't changed that much (except the VRM change, but OK).
So my real gripe with this board is that it doesn't have a 10 gigabit ethernet. I think that is the only thing you really need for sa single workstation GPU configuration.
And I'm also a bit sad that they've removed PCIe Gen4 support from the B350-I, B450-I, X370-I and X470-I since from what I've seen. On this custom designed board they wouldn't probably have a problem with it. (ergo why it was enabled in the first place).
I wonder about the z390I
I'm not a big fan of it because the VRM is a lot worse.
Has anyone ever tried to claim a warranty with ASUS? They blamed me for damage at the bottom of a X470i Strix board after it was working for a 8 months. Their warranty is a sham. Never ASUS again.
Just bought this board to replace the gigabyte x570 itx board. The Asus terrible.
The heatsink is the cheapest thing I've ever seen, the fans super thin and irreplaceable. And, the VRM heatsink blocks the long arms of the Noctua AM4 mounting bracket. Good one Asus.
I just installed a Noctua NH-U12A on there no problem. Well, actually at first I thought I was gonna have that issue with the mounting arms too. Then I realized I had them upside down...🤪
@@eljeffedeloda you can fit it, you loose the option of using the long arms of the mounting kit, so can only mount one orientation. Minor nitpick, but Ryzen is easier to cool depending on the the direction of the heat pipes (think 2 chiplets sharing a single heat pipe)
@@TheLinkedList Not sure which cooler you are using, but I think Noctua designed the NH-U12A to only sit in one orientation. In the instructions it said the longer arm was to face the RAM modules. I thought this was for more RAM compatibility, but now I wonder if they did that to line up the heat pipes with the chiplets.
@@eljeffedeloda I don't know if you have this issue, but this Asus board doesn't report the current memory voltage in the bios (right hand column) or in Ryzen Master. Is that the same for you?
@@TheLinkedList I'll have to check. I just put the system together and checked to make sure it booted to BIOS. Didn't look closely at any of the details though. The power supply I got had cables that were way too long for my case and I had to order the short cable kit for decent cable management. Those are supposed to be delivered tomorrow and work should be a bit less crazy then too so I'll check then and get back to you.
I have the same board. With a 3700x.... 😅
Pity this board is not good for Zen3. I know because I bought one for my 5950X. I see Optimum Tech here on YT had the same problems as me. Avoid until BIOS matures I think.
I literally just picked up the same thing. I haven't put it together but the board now comes with support for 5000 series out of the box. Hoping for the best at this point.
@@JaleelKing The latest BIOS that was released in the last few days does not suffer from any WHEA errors over 1600 IF clock unlike the previous BIOS versions. But only gained about 100 more points in CB20. my 5950X on this board is still 900 points behind every review of the 5950X elsewhere.
@@moebius2k103 Where are you looking to compare your results and test? I'd like to look once I get mine up and running.