Just got this yesterday. Didn't know you had to go into forward programming to add safe. Good thing I was fine with it. The manual says nothing about it.
The blades being like that is definitely an issue. As you noticed, when the heli wants to spool up, one blade moves first (the one that is loose). So when the heli is spooling up, it can lead to a tip-over (which already happened to you but it can be worse). I am not sure if that will cause blade tracking issues or not, probably not but still definitely has to be fixed. Both blades should be the same, not way too tight, not way too loose. You should easily move them by hand, but they should not move by themselves (its own weight). Second point I think your batteries and your ESCs are SMART. Dig through your manual. You should be able to configure to mAH consumption versus timer. That way you don't have to worry if you flip through flight modes, as the radio should tell you when you reach an X percentage of battery you set. Again, check your manual but I think your setup should be able to support that feature. Third point you really, REALLY need to get out of Normal mode. You can setup your flight mode 1 to have a lower headspeed. What happens is that when you start to try to fly inverted, if you are inadvertently on Normal mode, the lower end of the collective stick, which you use to give negative pitch, will now be throttling down the heli and you will crash for sure. And of course as someone else has already told you, you need to forget about stability mode. Now that you can hover tail-in you definitely need to get out of it and just use Rescue as needed. Fourth point. When you hit your tail and it dug into the ground, that is you your heli tilted up like that. You gave the stick inputs as if you had landed with the skids, but didn't take into account the tail was stuck into the ground. Just a heads up. Better to just spool down, walk and re-orient the heli back on its skids by hand. I hope these tips are helpful for you. Doing great and very happy to see your progression.
Thanks a lot for all the tips and suggestions. I know i need to get out of normal mode but as of now i want to fly in both because i can’t afford to crash. I definitely noticed and didn’t like flying with the blades like that but didn’t have time to go home and fix that. Also didn’t have my tools with me otherwise i would have fixed it right away. I’m really liking no stability mode with 360 tho it seems a little easier to fly then the 230. Thanks a lot for your help!
@@SlickBackAnt if you can’t afford to crash (hmmmm sounds like me hehehe) then if something doesn’t feel right then don’t fly. I know you have your packs charged and you made time to fly but just think how will you feel if you crash the Heli. You will come back home with charged packs AND a crashed Heli. Probably not worth it right? Get yourself a discharger or try to invest into a charger setup that has this feature. If you are short on budget then buy the least expensive for now and start saving up for a setup that will last you for even big 5000mAh 6S packs which you will get to eventually 😁 go to Amain or Helidirect or BK Hobbies or Anythingheli to find something already ready to go. There are other places to go for your future-proof setup but we will get to that eventually 😁
My advice would be to forget about stability mode, it will make your learning faster. I flied with auto stabilization fixed pitch mini heli for a while before i went onto 3d collective pitch heli and realized i had to almost learn again how to fly it, because stabilization taught me some negative habits. Now i'm rather trying to master flight without stability. Simulator helped me a lot to get used to that new control without smashing the real heli too much into the ground.
I agree, stability mode is slowing your progression. Work on all of your orientations first by sliding left and right to get used to looking at your heli at odd angles.
I just discovered recently what I believe your problem is. In forward programming at the bottom of the screen does it say you have Gain or Gyro channel set to Gear? I believe if that channel is inhibited then all your changes apply to all flight modes. If you switch it to gear you will have to choose a flight mode then make changes. Hold is also considered a flight mode. Research that first, I don’t have my helis near to double check. New belt and tighten blades. Good luck.
@@SlickBackAnt I was flying on my porch and then I crashed it and when I tried to get it back in the air it started spinning uncontrollably. Then I saw the blade was broken so I fixed that and it still was spinning crazy so then Ive been doing a bunch of looking around and only think I can find that else it would be is the spindle so I ordered it. But the spindle inside looks fine so idk. The tail motor seems fine and I think the gyro is fine.
Did you ever discover why the stability mode failed to work on this day? I have same problem with my Fusion 360 on a DX6 radio and the stability mode not active on normal flight mode. It doesn't level itself out after banking movements. I have to always level it out manually...
@@SlickBackAnt Yep after googling all day I managed to work out how to forward program with my DX6 after downloading firmware update. Why the hell isn't this mentioned in the manual at all! Also why isn't stability on by default for safety purposes!
Is there a reason why stability mode isnt available in normal mode?? Ive seen an article where a pilot inhiblted/disabled a set up switch??? Thanks pilots
Thank You Sir..good luck flying your Fuse360..i just fly mine in mode 1(after take off) and stab mode works great..esp with mode 1 head speed..im just a cruiser and not a 3d pilot..good luck and good flying..jw
Another quick comment. If you are short on budget, then make yourself a goal to save up for your hobby. Save what you can. What I do is that I separate a small amount each time I get paid and I put that in my budget and I transfer that to PayPal. Then as my PayPal balance grows, then I can either alleviate the cost of a crash or buy something I realize I need. Unfortunately as I have progressed I had to let go of models I really wish I had kept, but it was the only way: sell my current heli to buy the next one. But it is what it is. Also make sure that even if there is a beautiful heli that you want, understand that if you crash it and you have a set budget, it may take you months to repair it in a crash. Of course if you really, really want it, get it. I have a small fleet of Goblins, and my latest one took me months to build, but I love them. But for now as you are growing in confidence and have not yet managed to even fly inverted, it is a good idea to keep your models and invest in spares. Your models have excellent, low crash costs. Saving up just a little every pay period, taking care of checking everything and not flying when you don't feel right, will minimize your crash ratio and of course crash costs. Which may help you to buy some tool or equipment you need or stock up on spares or fund a crash.
I appreciate you! Im pretty happy with my helicopters now and have a decent amount of spare parts for both. Im slowly buying more parts. Learning what i need to keep in stock. Appreciate you! Thank you!
My NX8 does the same thing, I inhibited the switch in the setup mode, and at least it gives me stability in Normal mode now. Seems like transmitters may differ here and there as I've seen other videos where guys "Just do this and everything's fine!" Well, I follow them step by step, and my transmitter just won't do what theirs is doing! lol
Hello Pilot..im curious..what switch did you inhibit..flight mode??? Manual set up and NX8 templates are a little different..my framerate only allow 22ms...i fly my fus360 in mode 1 so i have stability..higher head speed makes it "funner" but am just curious what you did..my NX8 kicks my @$$..thank you and best regards..jw
3.8volts x 3cells = 11.4, you re all good, you didnt over discarge it. However if you had overdischarged the battery by the past, the damage is already done and the battery cannot be charged like it used to. I am not an expert at battery chemical processes but my understanding is that something happens inside the cells if you overdischarge them
@@SlickBackAnt RC helis are a rabbit hole of information...I am still learning 15 years on. When you build your first heli, let me know I will guide you through it. Building a kit is an awesome experience
@@SlickBackAnt the research is part of the fun. I got the goosky rs4 and the venom and I can recommend the venom, easy build, looks great and has plenty of power. A very good flying machine. If you want bigger then a Goblin raw 500 is sweet if budget allows.
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Just got this yesterday. Didn't know you had to go into forward programming to add safe. Good thing I was fine with it. The manual says nothing about it.
The blades being like that is definitely an issue. As you noticed, when the heli wants to spool up, one blade moves first (the one that is loose). So when the heli is spooling up, it can lead to a tip-over (which already happened to you but it can be worse). I am not sure if that will cause blade tracking issues or not, probably not but still definitely has to be fixed. Both blades should be the same, not way too tight, not way too loose. You should easily move them by hand, but they should not move by themselves (its own weight). Second point I think your batteries and your ESCs are SMART. Dig through your manual. You should be able to configure to mAH consumption versus timer. That way you don't have to worry if you flip through flight modes, as the radio should tell you when you reach an X percentage of battery you set. Again, check your manual but I think your setup should be able to support that feature. Third point you really, REALLY need to get out of Normal mode. You can setup your flight mode 1 to have a lower headspeed. What happens is that when you start to try to fly inverted, if you are inadvertently on Normal mode, the lower end of the collective stick, which you use to give negative pitch, will now be throttling down the heli and you will crash for sure. And of course as someone else has already told you, you need to forget about stability mode. Now that you can hover tail-in you definitely need to get out of it and just use Rescue as needed. Fourth point. When you hit your tail and it dug into the ground, that is you your heli tilted up like that. You gave the stick inputs as if you had landed with the skids, but didn't take into account the tail was stuck into the ground. Just a heads up. Better to just spool down, walk and re-orient the heli back on its skids by hand. I hope these tips are helpful for you. Doing great and very happy to see your progression.
Thanks a lot for all the tips and suggestions. I know i need to get out of normal mode but as of now i want to fly in both because i can’t afford to crash. I definitely noticed and didn’t like flying with the blades like that but didn’t have time to go home and fix that. Also didn’t have my tools with me otherwise i would have fixed it right away. I’m really liking no stability mode with 360 tho it seems a little easier to fly then the 230. Thanks a lot for your help!
@@SlickBackAnt if you can’t afford to crash (hmmmm sounds like me hehehe) then if something doesn’t feel right then don’t fly. I know you have your packs charged and you made time to fly but just think how will you feel if you crash the Heli. You will come back home with charged packs AND a crashed Heli. Probably not worth it right? Get yourself a discharger or try to invest into a charger setup that has this feature. If you are short on budget then buy the least expensive for now and start saving up for a setup that will last you for even big 5000mAh 6S packs which you will get to eventually 😁 go to Amain or Helidirect or BK Hobbies or Anythingheli to find something already ready to go. There are other places to go for your future-proof setup but we will get to that eventually 😁
@@toadiscoil well as long as i don’t have to basically buy a new heli then I’ll be okay lol my wife just gets mad when i buy to many parts lol
tighten blade grips, they are to loose. its makes a diff, just a tad bit grabby.
It’s hovering very smooth!
My advice would be to forget about stability mode, it will make your learning faster. I flied with auto stabilization fixed pitch mini heli for a while before i went onto 3d collective pitch heli and realized i had to almost learn again how to fly it, because stabilization taught me some negative habits. Now i'm rather trying to master flight without stability. Simulator helped me a lot to get used to that new control without smashing the real heli too much into the ground.
I agree, stability mode is slowing your progression. Work on all of your orientations first by sliding left and right to get used to looking at your heli at odd angles.
I know i know! Everyone is telling me forget stability mode! I’m doing it slowly and I’ll continue practicing. I’ll get it
@@SlickBackAnt oh hah okay, sorry, wasn't much checking other comments, recently checked only for this one :D
@@cutefoxRC all good! I’m trying my best to get away from normal mode.
I just discovered recently what I believe your problem is.
In forward programming at the bottom of the screen does it say you have Gain or Gyro channel set to Gear?
I believe if that channel is inhibited then all your changes apply to all flight modes.
If you switch it to gear you will have to choose a flight mode then make changes. Hold is also considered a flight mode.
Research that first, I don’t have my helis near to double check.
New belt and tighten blades.
Good luck.
In channel assign is gear assigned to exactly what it says in the manual, gear puts safe on your flight mode switch.
I’ll have to go over and check !
Broke my blade nano s3 hopefully bought the right part... Happy flying lol
What happened?!
@@SlickBackAnt I was flying on my porch and then I crashed it and when I tried to get it back in the air it started spinning uncontrollably. Then I saw the blade was broken so I fixed that and it still was spinning crazy so then Ive been doing a bunch of looking around and only think I can find that else it would be is the spindle so I ordered it. But the spindle inside looks fine so idk. The tail motor seems fine and I think the gyro is fine.
Did you ever discover why the stability mode failed to work on this day? I have same problem with my Fusion 360 on a DX6 radio and the stability mode not active on normal flight mode. It doesn't level itself out after banking movements. I have to always level it out manually...
@@harperproperties1306 have you tried turning stability mode on in forward programming ?
@@SlickBackAnt Yep after googling all day I managed to work out how to forward program with my DX6 after downloading firmware update. Why the hell isn't this mentioned in the manual at all! Also why isn't stability on by default for safety purposes!
@@harperproperties1306 good question! lol i asked the same questions all the time!
Is there a reason why stability mode isnt available in normal mode?? Ive seen an article where a pilot inhiblted/disabled a set up switch??? Thanks pilots
Thank You Sir..good luck flying your Fuse360..i just fly mine in mode 1(after take off) and stab mode works great..esp with mode 1 head speed..im just a cruiser and not a 3d pilot..good luck and good flying..jw
Okay so I need some help I'm trying to find out if the blade 330s with the rtf transmitter can also be used for bnf.
Shouldn’t be an issue. The only thing that’s different between the rtf and bnf is that one comes with a transmitter and the other doesn’t!
@@SlickBackAnt okay thank you bc I've been looking online and stuff and it's like no one gave me a clear answer
Another quick comment. If you are short on budget, then make yourself a goal to save up for your hobby. Save what you can. What I do is that I separate a small amount each time I get paid and I put that in my budget and I transfer that to PayPal. Then as my PayPal balance grows, then I can either alleviate the cost of a crash or buy something I realize I need. Unfortunately as I have progressed I had to let go of models I really wish I had kept, but it was the only way: sell my current heli to buy the next one. But it is what it is. Also make sure that even if there is a beautiful heli that you want, understand that if you crash it and you have a set budget, it may take you months to repair it in a crash. Of course if you really, really want it, get it. I have a small fleet of Goblins, and my latest one took me months to build, but I love them. But for now as you are growing in confidence and have not yet managed to even fly inverted, it is a good idea to keep your models and invest in spares. Your models have excellent, low crash costs. Saving up just a little every pay period, taking care of checking everything and not flying when you don't feel right, will minimize your crash ratio and of course crash costs. Which may help you to buy some tool or equipment you need or stock up on spares or fund a crash.
I appreciate you! Im pretty happy with my helicopters now and have a decent amount of spare parts for both. Im slowly buying more parts. Learning what i need to keep in stock. Appreciate you! Thank you!
My NX8 does the same thing, I inhibited the switch in the setup mode, and at least it gives me stability in Normal mode now. Seems like transmitters may differ here and there as I've seen other videos where guys "Just do this and everything's fine!" Well, I follow them step by step, and my transmitter just won't do what theirs is doing! lol
Hello Pilot..im curious..what switch did you inhibit..flight mode??? Manual set up and NX8 templates are a little different..my framerate only allow 22ms...i fly my fus360 in mode 1 so i have stability..higher head speed makes it "funner" but am just curious what you did..my NX8 kicks my @$$..thank you and best regards..jw
After entering forward programming the soft start isn't working. Flip the hold switch twice and the soft start will activate again✌️
Didn’t know that! Thank you!!
Set gear channel to F!
@@adnanlamri i put it to f mode and everything works perfect now!
3.8volts x 3cells = 11.4, you re all good, you didnt over discarge it. However if you had overdischarged the battery by the past, the damage is already done and the battery cannot be charged like it used to. I am not an expert at battery chemical processes but my understanding is that something happens inside the cells if you overdischarge them
Thank you for the information!
@@SlickBackAnt RC helis are a rabbit hole of information...I am still learning 15 years on. When you build your first heli, let me know I will guide you through it. Building a kit is an awesome experience
@@lionelcregut1222 i can’t wait to build my own kit! Still deciding what i want to get…. I want so many helis lol
@@SlickBackAnt the research is part of the fun. I got the goosky rs4 and the venom and I can recommend the venom, easy build, looks great and has plenty of power. A very good flying machine. If you want bigger then a Goblin raw 500 is sweet if budget allows.
You need a car battery on that thing to fly all day!
Idk if the helicopter would be able to lift that! Lol
Tighten these blade plz
Yeah, my 480 only lets me turn safe off over all flight modes and not between flight modes. Probably due to my controller (DX6e).
If I figure it out I will let you know. It's the same FBL unit for both I believe.
Hey I got a pretty cool idea what you just keep repeating yourself
Thanks!
I've got an idea, how about stop detouring people from the hobby being an ass hat.