@HeavyMental0 Patterson fought like an idiot against Liston. D'Amato wanted Patterson to be a straight-forward pressure fighter but as his opponents got bigger and more powerful, Patterson had to use his speed and skills to win. He couldn't overpower guys like Bonavena and Chuvalo, so he had to outbox them. The Liston fights were a wake-up call for him.
Wow. Floyd Patterson was explosive! I kinda' wish he fought as a light-heavyweight/cruiserweight--as he most likely would have been more consistently dominant (if those weight classes existed during those times). I always felt that Liston and Ali, amongst other true heavyweights, were too big and strong for him, and would naturally outclass him. But, like a true fighter, Patterson never turned down any challenge.
Robinson, by far the best fighter ever. knockout power in booth hands with any punch, blazing fast hands, Top notch quality of opposition, good chin. His killer instinct was second to none. After watching tons of Robinson fights, I don't recall him ever losing a toe-toe exchange
I'm not old enough to know the history behind Floyd Patterson other then in myth and legend. Just watching this is amazing. The guy did work on his opponents.
This is a great video not only good boxing scenes but a jedi mind tricks instrumental the best combo should had the entire song not just the instrumental though
suggestions for part two.....Meldrick Taylor....Sugar Shane,....Young Tyson,......and of course Roy Jones Jr......ooh yeah Sugar Ray!! we're talking about everything here right...reflexes, footspeed etc......not just hands......
Ralph Dupas, jr.mid champ 1963, the 'Native Dancer" from New Orleans not only had blinding hand speed, he could seemingly be on two sides of you at once raining punches. Check out his fight with Gil Turner on youtube.
I've timed a LOT of punches of all kinds from pro to plain street fights. Good punches fall into 200 to 160 ms from a guard position to full extension. Half out to full extension wing chun punches are about 100 ms but they have no real guard. Good reaction times are around 200 ms. My auto punch arms punch 200 ms to 100 ms, full extension. These fighters are fast and hard to stop such speed. Brutal sport for sure.
Ray Robinson, hands down, the fastest and pound for pound best fighter of all time. He had it all, speed, power, style, technique, a good chin, and heart. A true legend. RIP Sugar Ray.
Great A Thanks for this video its awesome whats your take on aaron "the hawk"pryor in his prime? they say even sugar ray leonard ducked him once if you make a third one what you think good post
@Zimnes312 his fight with Randy Turpin who was a good slick boxer is on youtube, there are other fights Robinson had against very slick boxers but sadly there is no footage of them
Judging by this video, WOW, I got to say Ali. For a true heavyweight, he was sick. Floyd Patterson was fast too, he looked so thin to be heavyweight, but he was pretty fast too. It makes me glad that I don't box, watching these ridiloulsly fast fighters pound on you. LOL. Nice video.
@thepacquiaovsmosley, wow, what a clever and witty 'comeback.' Did you come up with it all by yourself, or did your carer help you with it? Thanks for proving my point.
@thewhiteSRR No, I read it elsewhere too, a separate study by Jim Jacobs who measured both fighters' jabs, Robinson's was 8 and a half frames, Ali's was 6 and a half. The 'phantom punch' was 0.04 seconds. But overall boxing skill has to go to Robinson, I think. But Ali's countering ability, speed and accuracy in his prime is unrivaled.
@nathanwilefrazier Absolutely true.His defense was also something to behold.He'd make people miss by fractions of an inch,making them think that they ALMOST hit him,so they'd try that much harder--not SMARTER,but HARDER--to hit him again.And miss...and miss...and then they're fatigued.And they're another knockout victim.Sugar Ray Robinson did this over and over again.
It's mostly handspeed. I disagree that Patterson had "awful" movement, just not comparable to Ali, especially with back troubles. Look at the Patterson-Agosto fight that I've uploaded for example, or Patterson-Chuvalo.
In your opinion. I personally think 2:00, 2:10, 2:12, 2:25 are some pretty decent displays of handspeed myself, not to mention his footwork. Have you ever seen another man land 6-7 jabs in a row?
@Zimnes312 Yes it does as you have more fights you gain experience against quality opp,there's no reason why techs would be more polished today , youre assertion is based on the presumption that everything newer is better, but that is not always the case, especially in boxing, and try to watch Robinson's whole fights, he had footwork and boxing skills that Martinez has never encountered, plus hes a master of bodypunching.
@xXBeastfromdaEastXx I have to agree with this. I take Boxing when it comes to which of the two is a more refined and technical art and which I enjoy more, but I've done both and grappling is freaking tiring. If they grappled for 12 rounds they would be dead.
@dhankins627...You can say that but we will never know for sure and there is one glaring omission on your list not sure whether its deliberate...Charley Burley...Robinson flat out refused to fight him.
i saved this clip a while back, & marked it "Jimi". Seems like I was more into the track than the video. I don't remember the tune, but it must've been Hendrix. Oops. ...I see anther post revealing it as "Purple Haze"/
Im Yu Jimi Hendrix, since deberia to look for it must be one of the known mas and not entendi finalizes part because I do not speak alone Englishman I translate it
@jeditwinz yeah exactly, and as for ur comment about the guy saying ali wasn't a boxer...smh , just think about getting punched in the face, now at that very second you are getting punched would you have rather been throwing a punch of your own or dodging it? in boxing not getting his is more important than hitting your opponent , not only will they gas themselves out but it will make it easier for you to hit them as well and by dodging you are free to counter punch them at your will
Dont think they really commit to combinations that accelerate; they just seem to concentrate on getting down basic one two set ups. I suppose they also got the leg length threat to get past as well, so over commitment to fists alone may cause some fear in them. (Im with you though it shouldnt; more people go down and out from an unseen punch in a combo than a kick.)
@En4trance Your confusing the basic speed of a punch with the speed of combination punching. Jones wasn't a combination puncher, but many of his single shot counters required almost inhuman speed and reflexes. Watch some of his counters in his fight with Hopkins back in 93' you can barely see some of them their so fast
There are some great fighters out there today, also; but the problem is that there aren't as many as there used to be. It's not even close. Fighters don't fight as often as they used to and it's rare that a good one gets a worthy opponent. Great fights make great fighters and it doesn't happen that often these days.
@jj3304 tottaly agree, he was most certianly a unique human bieng, in and out the ring whether as a highly gifted creative fighter or as the most impressive charsimatic characther ever,of the hundreds of ali vidoes of him that r around whethers hes fighting,interviewing,jokeing or amongst world dignitaries hes allways extremly entertaining and he was never ever boreing,God cure him so that atleast we could get to see a bit of that magical charisma that once lightened ppls lives and still does so
@RyanGXpress (read my last comment first) and one more thing, I was only using Ali as one of the many examples I could have used explaining how Tyson couldn't beat him... Not because I'm an Ali fanboy who thinks he could beat anyone... Shit, would you rather have had me say Sonny Liston, Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Joe Frazier, etc??????? because I could've gladly named any of those fighters too.....
@Aphoresis and yeah boxers who are close minded and have never done grappling dont know how tiring it really is. it can drain you so fast. thats why i think MMA could never have as many rounds as boxing. that would be insane
@Cryttan Your analogy is akin to those printers that also masquerade as scanners and fax machines - they're never that great. You'd be better off buying all the items individually. Boxing - the noble art/Queensberry Rules - is like that. A specialist craft.
@brooklyn560 Not just looking at records. Robinson had one punch knock out power in both hands, was incredibly quick and his style revolutionized boxing. Let's talk about his record though. 85-0 as an amateur and 69 came by knockout. By 1951 he had a record of 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts. He finished his career with 105 knockouts, most fighters don't even have half that many fights. Pep was also an amazing fighter with an incredible record.
@justentime77 Yes, Robinson was the greatest, not only his record, but his attributes too. He could box with an amazing arsenal of punches, he had a great jab, hook, cross, uppercut, the lot. He was very quick, had a great chin, great footwork & could knockout an opponent while moving backwards. In his prime he had no weaknesses, so to me, that makes him the most complete fighter of all time!
Ali might not have been faster as far as hands go but I guarrantee you Ali had a better reaction time than any other fighter in this world. I seen ali just turn his head half an inch in the last second just to miss a punch. He was sick.
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great soundtrack unlike most highlights,once again just brilliant,best highlights av seen.
Fanatastic Video and great soundtrack. Ali was such a badass in the day
Damn thats impressive you can cite that off the top. You are true historian of the sport. God bless you for it.
@HeavyMental0
Patterson fought like an idiot against Liston. D'Amato wanted Patterson to be a straight-forward pressure fighter but as his opponents got bigger and more powerful, Patterson had to use his speed and skills to win. He couldn't overpower guys like Bonavena and Chuvalo, so he had to outbox them. The Liston fights were a wake-up call for him.
Wow. Floyd Patterson was explosive! I kinda' wish he fought as a light-heavyweight/cruiserweight--as he most likely would have been more consistently dominant (if those weight classes existed during those times). I always felt that Liston and Ali, amongst other true heavyweights, were too big and strong for him, and would naturally outclass him. But, like a true fighter, Patterson never turned down any challenge.
Robinson, by far the best fighter ever. knockout power in booth hands with any punch, blazing fast hands, Top notch quality of opposition, good chin. His killer instinct was second to none. After watching tons of Robinson fights, I don't recall him ever losing a toe-toe exchange
Pep was truly a boxing master with great speed and movement. Quick little moves, subtle and cunning. Truly one of the all time greats.
Great video. Ceck out The Hitman Hearns against Cuevas, Duran and Shuler though, that was crazy speed!
I'm not old enough to know the history behind Floyd Patterson other then in myth and legend. Just watching this is amazing. The guy did work on his opponents.
This is a great video not only good boxing scenes but a jedi mind tricks instrumental the best combo should had the entire song not just the instrumental though
wow Patterson seems to hit hard .. There's like an explosion every time he connects
@Cryttan
Fralust makes a good point. What 3 martial arts did Brock Lensar and Randy Couture "MASTER"?
Floyd Patterson was too underrated but he is above anything "awesome" to me.
AWESOME VID MAN! Hell Yeah! Kickass soundtrack too. Cant fuck with Hendrix.
M U H A M M A D A L I. # 1
@Aphoresis True, good emphasis.
Nice upload. Thanks!
.30 seconds was a nightmare of a flurry. class brutal
suggestions for part two.....Meldrick Taylor....Sugar Shane,....Young Tyson,......and of course Roy Jones Jr......ooh yeah Sugar Ray!! we're talking about everything here right...reflexes, footspeed etc......not just hands......
Ralph Dupas, jr.mid champ 1963, the 'Native Dancer" from New Orleans not only had blinding hand speed, he could seemingly be on two sides of you at once raining punches. Check out his fight with Gil Turner on youtube.
AWESOME CLIP!
I've timed a LOT of punches of all kinds from pro to plain street fights. Good punches fall into 200 to 160 ms from a guard position to full extension. Half out to full extension wing chun punches are about 100 ms but they have no real guard. Good reaction times are around 200 ms. My auto punch arms punch 200 ms to 100 ms, full extension. These fighters are fast and hard to stop such speed. Brutal sport for sure.
Ray Robinson, hands down, the fastest and pound for pound best fighter of all time.
He had it all, speed, power, style, technique, a good chin, and heart. A true legend.
RIP Sugar Ray.
Jimmy Young's left jab and right hand were three times as fast as Ali's.
It's right there on the tape of their fight.
wow i heard about the original sugar ray... but robinson is just amazing. i had to stand up and sit back down, i just didn't know my history.
Willie Pep is my favorite boxer. He could stick and move but he could also knock you out if he wanted to.
Great A Thanks for this video its awesome whats your take on aaron "the hawk"pryor in his prime? they say even sugar ray leonard ducked him once if you make a third one what you think good post
@Zimnes312 his fight with Randy Turpin who was a good slick boxer is on youtube, there are other fights Robinson had against very slick boxers but sadly there is no footage of them
Nice video thanks
Judging by this video, WOW, I got to say Ali. For a true heavyweight, he was sick. Floyd Patterson was fast too, he looked so thin to be heavyweight, but he was pretty fast too. It makes me glad that I don't box, watching these ridiloulsly fast fighters pound on you. LOL. Nice video.
@thepacquiaovsmosley, wow, what a clever and witty 'comeback.' Did you come up with it all by yourself, or did your carer help you with it? Thanks for proving my point.
Muhammad Ali vs brian london knockout was the single fastest punches i've ever seen in my life, that punch speed was unbelievable!
What album is this version of Purple Haze on? I've never heard this one before, good version.
@thewhiteSRR No, I read it elsewhere too, a separate study by Jim Jacobs who measured both fighters' jabs, Robinson's was 8 and a half frames, Ali's was 6 and a half. The 'phantom punch' was 0.04 seconds. But overall boxing skill has to go to Robinson, I think. But Ali's countering ability, speed and accuracy in his prime is unrivaled.
The Ali Shuffle is epic!!!
@nathanwilefrazier Absolutely true.His defense was also something to behold.He'd make people miss by fractions of an inch,making them think that they ALMOST hit him,so they'd try that much harder--not SMARTER,but HARDER--to hit him again.And miss...and miss...and then they're fatigued.And they're another knockout victim.Sugar Ray Robinson did this over and over again.
When Muhammad Ali says Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest boxer of all time... I cant argue
@azfryguy yeah plus it was all about the heavys then
i dont know much about boxing but could anyone tell me why they seem so skinny in those times? is it for more speed? if so why change the concept now?
on floyd pattersons part every 5 seconds i was like *DANG!!!!* 5 seconds later *DANG!!!!*
does any one know any exercises to increase punching speed??
@Zimnes312 Give me one technique that modern boxers have now but wasnt available in SRR's time
It's mostly handspeed. I disagree that Patterson had "awful" movement, just not comparable to Ali, especially with back troubles. Look at the Patterson-Agosto fight that I've uploaded for example, or Patterson-Chuvalo.
If I ever make a third part, he'll be on it.
In your opinion. I personally think 2:00, 2:10, 2:12, 2:25 are some pretty decent displays of handspeed myself, not to mention his footwork. Have you ever seen another man land 6-7 jabs in a row?
@justentime77 if your only looking at records what about Willie Pep
@Zimnes312 Yes it does as you have more fights you gain experience against quality opp,there's no reason why techs would be more polished today , youre assertion is based on the presumption that everything newer is better, but that is not always the case, especially in boxing, and try to watch Robinson's whole fights, he had footwork and boxing skills that Martinez has never encountered, plus hes a master of bodypunching.
@justentime77 How many of SRR fights have you seen?
@RyanGXpress thanks a million.
@xXBeastfromdaEastXx
I have to agree with this. I take Boxing when it comes to which of the two is a more refined and technical art and which I enjoy more, but I've done both and grappling is freaking tiring. If they grappled for 12 rounds they would be dead.
@dhankins627...You can say that but we will never know for sure and there is one glaring omission on your list not sure whether its deliberate...Charley Burley...Robinson flat out refused to fight him.
Ohhh Fuck You copyright
no one knows what the song was before the silenced?
i saved this clip a while back, & marked it "Jimi". Seems like I was more into the track than the video. I don't remember the tune, but it must've been Hendrix. Oops. ...I see anther post revealing it as "Purple Haze"/
Im Yu Jimi Hendrix, since deberia to look for it must be one of the known mas and not entendi finalizes part because I do not speak alone Englishman I translate it
Sugar Ray Robinson's left hook was simply awesome
robinsons no joke,man hes fast.nice vid
amazing!!
@0willsy01 thanks man cause people keep say that he didnt when he fought mike tyson and i keep tellin them to watch the video
ali was soooooo nice that man straight shuffled after delivering a two piece lmao
whats the name of the first instrumental?
Man, they fought like there was no tomorrow back then. Nowadays they fight like, no please tomorrow.
Floyd Patterson had the quickest hands.
Where's from the first instrumental?
Damn, Floyd Patterson was a beast back in his prime
Willie Pep for the win!
Couldn't punch his way out of a quiche - but MAN those feet moved like a ballerina.
Ali the greatest of all time. I met Pep at numerous golden glove events when I boxed here in Connecticut. He was old and still fast.
dope video
whats the first song?
@jeditwinz yeah exactly, and as for ur comment about the guy saying ali wasn't a boxer...smh , just think about getting punched in the face, now at that very second you are getting punched would you have rather been throwing a punch of your own or dodging it? in boxing not getting his is more important than hitting your opponent , not only will they gas themselves out but it will make it easier for you to hit them as well and by dodging you are free to counter punch them at your will
@arsenalybahraini yes it is?
Dont think they really commit to combinations that accelerate; they just seem to concentrate on getting down basic one two set ups. I suppose they also got the leg length threat to get past as well, so over commitment to fists alone may cause some fear in them.
(Im with you though it shouldnt; more people go down and out from an unseen punch in a combo than a kick.)
@tibianus123 who is HE? do you know this is a compilation of fighters? "HE" could be Robinson, Pep, Ali, etc etc
What's the title of the track that used to be here?
Old movies with this style definition looks like 2 minecraft people fighting. To think we all watched this in awe...
when it comes to fastest hands patterson looks like he had faster hands than either pep or ray,ali had the fastest feet.
What song is this? Thanks
@En4trance
Your confusing the basic speed of a punch with the speed of combination punching. Jones wasn't a combination puncher, but many of his single shot counters required almost inhuman speed and reflexes. Watch some of his counters in his fight with Hopkins back in 93' you can barely see some of them their so fast
@ATACXGYM, thanks, haha I didnt mean to respond to myself, it was for some other person.
can you please tell me the name of the songs ?`??
There are some great fighters out there today, also; but the problem is that there aren't as many as there used to be. It's not even close. Fighters don't fight as often as they used to and it's rare that a good one gets a worthy opponent. Great fights make great fighters and it doesn't happen that often these days.
@vicmcmahon
then why do ufc fughter have shorter carerrs, i think boxing requires more stamina, that much i figure!
cool vid!!! but wat are the songs
@jj3304 tottaly agree, he was most certianly a unique human bieng, in and out the ring whether as a highly gifted creative fighter or as the most impressive charsimatic characther ever,of the hundreds of ali vidoes of him that r around whethers hes fighting,interviewing,jokeing or amongst world dignitaries hes allways extremly entertaining and he was never ever boreing,God cure him so that atleast we could get to see a bit of that magical charisma that once lightened ppls lives and still does so
Ali's a BEAST!! :P
@RyanGXpress (read my last comment first) and one more thing, I was only using Ali as one of the many examples I could have used explaining how Tyson couldn't beat him... Not because I'm an Ali fanboy who thinks he could beat anyone... Shit, would you rather have had me say Sonny Liston, Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Joe Frazier, etc??????? because I could've gladly named any of those fighters too.....
I agree. I think some people are mistaking "timing" with pure hand speed. Roy Jones is definitely at the top of my list. Taylor would be second.
@weemann77 Andre winner, Marcus Davis, Chris Lytle, and a few others have had some real success.
music???? thanks
0:52 "NO MAN CAN ENDURE SUCH PUNISHMENT!!"
@Aphoresis and yeah boxers who are close minded and have never done grappling dont know how tiring it really is. it can drain you so fast. thats why i think MMA could never have as many rounds as boxing. that would be insane
5/5 and favd awsome !!
@sergiolemus87 Only in the Oscar fight. He was in his prime and ranked number one PFP when he fought Whitaker.
@Cryttan Your analogy is akin to those printers that also masquerade as scanners and fax machines - they're never that great. You'd be better off buying all the items individually.
Boxing - the noble art/Queensberry Rules - is like that.
A specialist craft.
@brooklyn560 Not just looking at records. Robinson had one punch knock out power in both hands, was incredibly quick and his style revolutionized boxing. Let's talk about his record though. 85-0 as an amateur and 69 came by knockout. By 1951 he had a record of 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts. He finished his career with 105 knockouts, most fighters don't even have half that many fights. Pep was also an amazing fighter with an incredible record.
what song ?
@0willsy01 yeah i kno right thanks man for helping me get my point across
@justentime77 Yes, Robinson was the greatest, not only his record, but his attributes too. He could box with an amazing arsenal of punches, he had a great jab, hook, cross, uppercut, the lot. He was very quick, had a great chin, great footwork & could knockout an opponent while moving backwards. In his prime he had no weaknesses, so to me, that makes him the most complete fighter of all time!
Ali might not have been faster as far as hands go but I guarrantee you Ali had a better reaction time than any other fighter in this world. I seen ali just turn his head half an inch in the last second just to miss a punch. He was sick.
Ali is legend :D fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee :D
YES!! finally someone gets it hahah nice call man
wats the name of the song
@banacon888 lol robinson didnt fight in the 70s, his last fight was 65