The Typical John 1:1 - 18 Blunder
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- Beginning a journey off course is simply the height of folly. John is introducing what his Gospel is about - the Son alongside the Father. The light shining in the darkness is the light of God the Father shining through His human son Jesus.
You are correct. I remember starting to read John's Gospel and I quickly glanced at the clock and it was 10:30. Immediately I was reminded of John 10:30. Jesus and the Father are one. The Father through His word (which is spirit and truth) is always with Jesus.
One in purpose
@@claybentonite yes. Jesus abides in the love of the Father, and the Father abides in him. That's what Jesus meant by "one".
Praise God!! Thank you Brother Kel for this good teaching.
Beautiful teaching......20:31 of the gospel John explains the purpose...... believe Jesus is the the Christ, the son of God.... everlasting life depends it....
Thank you, Brother Kel ❤
I after doing a lot of studying and racking my brain trying to reconcile the problems from the trinity stuff with the original jewish texts have finally found the perfect analogy for the Father and Son and possibly Holy Spirit. (Most of the trinity stuff does come from John, and it being the latest gospel written that for some reason departs from the synopsis of the story quite drastically at times doesnt surprise me.)
Anyways, the analogy I came up with uses tech terms to help us better understand. The father is spirit, the technological equivalent would be digital software, that is what programs start out as, or in this case always has been. This digital software is running a God program/is a God program. Its method of trasnferring information, knowledge and power is by peer to peer connections, which im going to say is like the Holy Spirit, another name for God describing his powers and kind of like the force whoch comes from God.
And heres the best part. God made Jesus, who is the visible image of the invisible God, but isn't exactly God himself (because he subjects himself to Him and was created by Him. (I dont care if you think I'm siding with Jehovahs witnesses here, I think they are correct on this issue.) God copied his program onto a physical version, like a program being installed on a disk. The disk is not as powerful as the original digital version, but is treated as a representation of our God because he is running the same program the Father is that he bestowed upon him.
I think this analogy really clears things up and helps us better understand what the bible is saying about the nature/essence of Jesus and God.
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
@@reynaldoperez7285Jesus was very clear, he is the son of God, it is just you who are insisting that he is God, not Jesus, so you mean Jesus lies and you are right?
@itsDragon_Star
Berean Standard Bible No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, (WHO IS HIMSELF GOD )and is at the Father's side, has made Him known.
My line of thinking is......In the beginning was the promise and the promise was with God and the promise was Godly. That promise was manifested in the life of Christ!🙏
Promise is good, I think of it as in the beginning was the self evident meaning. Since the word didn’t come to glorify himself and emptied himself all we could behold in Yeshu is the glory of Yhwh.
@@obakhanjones2869The Promise?? What horrible Greek translation .. do you know how to even translate the word “ logos”? ( λόγος ) To promise?????
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
The difficulty I find with the "blunder" accusation in this video is that all of the significant terms used throughout the Prologue (beginning, word, all things, life, light, darkness, testify, coming, own, believe, children of God, name) are explicitly associated with Jesus himself throughout the rest of the 4th Gospel. Not even "light" is actually associated with God the Father anywhere in the book.
The Father didn't come into the world and do anything. It was the son of God who spoke the word and did the signs in the midst of the people (on behalf of the Father, who was in heaven). John the baptizer was also sent to testify about the man, Jesus Christ, (John 1:15, 30) and not God the Father. This is what the Prologue is about ...
"you have been with me [Jesus] from THE BEGINNING" (John 15:27)
"if anyone keeps MY [Jesus] WORD, he will never die" (John 8:51)
"when that one [Jesus] comes, he [Jesus] will declare ALL THINGS to us" (John 4:25)
"I [Jesus] am THE LIFE" (John 14:6)
"I [Jesus] am THE LIGHT" (John 8:12)
"everyone who believes in me [Jesus] will not remain in DARKNESS" (John 12:46)
"I have seen and TESTIFIED that this [Jesus] is the son of God" (John 1:32)
"I [Jesus] have COME INTO THE WORLD" (John 18:36)
"Your [Jesus] OWN nation has delivered you [Jesus] to me" (John 18:35)
"that he [Jesus] might also gather into one THE CHILDREN OF GOD" (John 11:51-52)
"Jesus is the Christ, and the son of God, and BELIEVING you might have life IN HIS [Jesus] NAME" (John 20:31).
Yes, Jesus was talking to his disciples who were with him in the beginning of his ministry, so maybe you got your beginnings mixed. I think you mentioned something about light, Psalm 119:105(your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path) the literal word of God has been providing light to men way before Jesus appeared on the scene. The word of God tells how God the Father created all things all by himself with no one beside him which means no other person and the new heavens and earth through Jesus because as His Son Jesus will inherit these things. I know when Jesus says on many occasions my word is not my own but my Father's that would make it plain that Jesus is not the literal Word of God because he would be lying, he would have to confess I am the literal word of God although he is (called) the word of God it still is just a name. Many people have names that doesn't mean they are the thing they are named after but Jesus does personify The Word of God but not amphropomorphise the word.
Also the light was (created)on the first day.
@@ThePelicular ... what "light" do you think was created on the first day?
A question for both sides of the argument: Is believing Jesus is The only Begotten Son of God , obeying his directives and acknowledging his role in your salvation enough?
Curious if you have any thoughts on the argument that demonstrates Jesus is God by comparing the Greek word "Logos" to "Memra" in the Targums? This argument says that the writer of John, although writing in Greek, would have been thinking in an Aramaic way, so the meaning of the "word" is best defined in the Targums. In this Aramaic version, the "word" (Memra) is separate from God but is God . I've seen some convincing videos on RUclips on it. I haven't seen a non-trinitarian address this and it would be very helpful. Thanks for your videos!
‘ The word of the Lord’ or ‘The word of God’ in the Aramaic Targum is synonymous with ‘The Lord’ or ‘God’.
‘The word of God said’ = ‘God said’
Do t know about that but in the existing early Hebrew Gospels John 1:1 uses the Hebrew word for The Son in place of The Logos and used Elohim in the first instance and Eloha in the second instance. Eloha is in the accusatory ( qualitative) tense.
When God created earth Jesus was with him, he used Jesus to accomplish it. Now God is the creator of the universe, he is the creator alone, we can also say same thing when God gave us the bible or scriptures, some people say scriptures were written by humans but still God is the author, so the mastermind of creating the universe is still God and not Jesus. I hope that helps
I've been following your thoughts for probably nearly 10 years Kel, so I know you have mentioned before how it's the Father being glorified in John's prologue. But could you remind me of your other videos where you discuss this in more detail? I'll look later myself, but a link would save me a bit of time, thanks.
I think the most important puzzle is how the word became flesh. When you get it, everything falls into place.
What resources would you recommend for help in studying the Bible? Any versions/translations you prefer over others? I want to purchase something besides the KJV and have thought about an interlinier or literal (Green’s maybe?). There’s a new (2020) literal version - Literal Standard Version (LSV) - do you have an opinion? Thanks for any suggestions.
Use resources that help you understand the Hebrew or Greek text. What English translations say is really quite irrelevant.
@@TheTrinityDelusion I’ve been relying on an online resource that has Strong’s, etc. Anything in print?
I'll tell you honestly this guy doesn't care about you being saved at all. He creates stupid stories so he can tread all over other Christians who have a slightly different point of view.
You should be able to tell what he's about by the way he presents himself. He's bland dull slow uninteresting unexciting mean slanderous and just plain nasty to other Christians. THATS NOT THE WORKS OF A FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST. If anything this guy is an Anti christ
@@fleshasgrass9985Heed Jesus's words in John 14:26 & 16:13
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
Rev 21:23 is another great verse to show that Jesus is not God. But of course it's impossible for a trinitarian to understand.
Yes it is. God the light is shining through the Lamb
@@TheTrinityDelusion John makes it clear that God the Light existed "in him" (in the Word) which was with God and was God, and that this Light was "in the world, and the world was made by him" thus making God the Light himself God. John bare witness of Jesus and was bearing "witness of the Light" who was in the world from the beginning.
Revelation 21: 23 therefore must be a proof text of Jesus being God, and does not refute it, except, we are left with four members of the Godhead instead of three.
Actually Rev. 1:18 shows Jesus is GOD.
But of course it’s impossible for a deluded person to comprehend this and understand it.
@@JoshuaMSOG7 When we read and study God’s Word, we draw conclusions that can be of our own reasoning or revealed to us by the Holy Spirit. Many times we can become proud of what we want to think is true and the Holy Spirit cannot correct us unless we become humble. When we read God's Word, we must pray for a humble heart and seek God's truth from his Word.
[GODHEAD IN THREE PERSONS (1 Joh. 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one. Ac. 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Rom. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Col. 2:9 For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Ps. 19:1-6 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handiwork. Day into day utters speech, and night into night shows knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voices not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them has he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.)
The Father, Son and Spirit are called God.
FATHER (Joh. 6:27); SON (Joh. 1:1-3; 8:58; 20:28; Ac. 20:28; Heb. 1:8); SPIRIT (Ac. 5:3-4)
All three persons are mentioned together in the same passages.
1. The baptism of Christ (Mt. 3:16-17).
2. The promise of the Comforter (Joh. 14:16).
3. The Kingdom Commission (Mt. 28:18-20).
4. Paul's apostolic benediction (2 Cor. 13:14).
5. The unity of the spirit (Eph. 4:4-6).
The Trinity working in unity as the Godhead.
1. Creation - The Spirit moved (Gen. 1:2). God spoke, Christ (the Word) created all things (Joh. 1:1-3); God said, "Let US make man in OUR image (Gen. 1:26; 1 Th. 5:23)
2. Incarnation - The Father gave (Joh. 3:16-17), the Spirit placed the seed (Mt. 1:18; Lk. 1:35), and the Son was born of a virgin (Mt. 1:18-25)
3. Resurrection (Ac. 13:30) - Father (Gal. 1:1), Son (Joh. 10:17), Spirit (Rom. 8:11)
4. Salvation (Eph. 1:3-14)
5. Prayer (Eph. 3:14; 5:20; 6:18)]
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
@The Trinity Delusion
Could it be understood like this:
In the beginning God's word was in him and with him. When God spoke his voice (Word) went out from within His bosom to make all things, His word was begotten of the Father. Many don't know that begotten can mean not just procreation but to come forth from. So God and His word created all things not a trinity but God Alone. His word rested and was in the prophets of old and yet Isreal still denied his will and ways. Then to redeem mankind back to rightness with God to himself He made a man born of a woman a Son and He put his word in His mouth a greater prophet then Moses. As Jesus the Man our Lord and King waxed strong and in knowledge as a youth to when he began His ministry being filled with God at His Baptism this is what John meant by his prologue the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. And is why Jesus can say He is the light of the world since the first light God's word went out to create was called day and separated from the darkness called night and the world was then created by the Light of the world God's word. Then came the lessor lights sun moon and stars. I was filled with the Holy Spirit in 2017 not coming from within the Church but out. Jesus has led me and given me knowledge wisdom and understanding that lines up with very few people and has given me a purpose anointing and has sent me out with the message of restoring the Truth of God lost from the minds and councils of men from the days of old. The false doctrines of men and seducing spirits and devils. This path has been full of hate being called blasphemous led of the devil not having the Holy Spirit just becasue I Trust in the teachings of Jesus without changing them or His Testimony of Himself and God His Father. So many are decieved without understanding. Very few people have I seen teach the way you do and how God has led me to understand his Truth. Keep fighting the good fight of the True Apostolic Faith in Christ Jesus the Son of God our Lord and King.
The word was always with God The Father and his nature is very God and The eternal word was manifested in the flesh (yeshua)
Philippians 2:5-8
John 17:4-5
John 1:14 tells us that the logos became flesh, but 1 John 4: 1-3 tells us that Jesus Christ became flesh. Remember that God was never ever called God. 😮
Who were people calling "God"?
Gospel of John was not written by John. It was written by Lazarus; whom Jesus loved (John 21:20-24 , 11:1-3).
It was John who leaned back on Jesus at the last supper 13:25not Lazarus, and it says that the one Jesus love was the one who leaned against him John 21:20
If John's prologue starts with the Genesis creation, then God created a fourth member of the Godhead in Genesis when he said "let there be light" and he saw that the light was "Good." (Remember Jesus said there's none good but God). John writes concerning the light that it exists "within" the Word.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Christianity unanimously agrees that verse 4 here is speaking still of "the Word" who was "with God from the beginning and was God."
So, within The Word (God) was life and this life was the light.
This is actually a contradiction of Genesis (if John is speaking about Genesis here) for verse 4 would make it clear that the light was not created in Genesis 1, in the beginning, but was "in him" or "in the Word" (which was with God from BEFORE the beginning according to all of Christendom).
The light, therefore, was already there before the beginning according to John.
Not only that, the Light is a person according to John.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
So within the PERSON of God known as "the Word" was another person of God, called "the Light" and this person, The Light, shone on every man who has ever come into the world, and he (the person known as The Light) "came unto his own" and was "in the world, and the world was made by him."
So there are clearly two persons of God in "The Word" and not just one.
We know that Jesus said "I am the Way, the truth and the life" and John said that in this life is "the light of men."
Thus, John has identified God the Father, God the Word, God the Light by the 12th verse. Yet, there is ONE MORE member of the Godhead identified whom John bore witness of.
"14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
This, of course, is the FLESH of Jesus. His physical body, which, according to John is ALSO God, for the Word (who was God from before the beginning) BECAME the flesh of Jesus and dwelt among us.
John the Baptist, indeed, bore witness of the fleshly man known as Jesus.
The Word, who was with God and was God from before the beginning, is the second member of the trinity according to the dogma. There is also God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. Then, there is "The Light" who was "in the world from the beginning and though the world was made by HIM the world knew him not." This is yet a fourth member of the Godhead. Then, the Word was "made" flesh. He was "incarnated" in flesh. This makes Jesus' fleshly body a FIFTH MEMBER of the Godhead (or, if you want to quibble,) his body was all FOUR members identified in the prologue, God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit and God the Light incarnated in one fleshly body.
These are all irrefutable facts that, had I been at the Council of Nicea I would have insisted on pointing out, as they tried to make God a triune Godhead, for they are leaving off "God The Light" who was "in the Word" and was "the life of men."
Add the fifth Godhead member, lady wisdom to your list.
@@johndevisser903 Some claim lady wisdom is Jesus.
@@jb_1971 He has two natures right? So why not two genders right?
It's sad.
It fits this wicked fallen world 😞
John 1:1,, it should be "the teaching",, not "the word"
Jesus is the eternal, divine Word of God become flesh.
Amen! Kel is a heretic!
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
Neither the son, nor the Holy Spirit hold the accountability of sin against humanity - ie, no man can see my face yet live
Likewise, and as it is the Father alone who's face we will look upon in the lifting of the curse upon humanity, the conclusion is that neither the Son, nor the Holy Spirit are equally GOD, as it is obvious that they do not hold the accountability of sin as GOD the Father does.
PS, the Holy Spirit is GOD's active force exerted upon creation, which is then personified throughout Bible history
@SmalltimR
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD. THE ETERNAL SPIRIT.
1. The Spirit convicts the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8).
2. The Spirit guides us into all truth (John 16:13).
3. The Spirit regenerates us (John 3:5-8; Titus 3:5).
4. The Spirit glorifies and testifies of Christ (John 15:26; 16:14).
5. The Spirit reveals Christ to us and in us (John 16:14-15).
6. The Spirit leads us (Rom. 8:14; Gal. 5:18; Matt. 4:1; Luke 4:1).
7. The Spirit sanctifies us (2 Thess. 2:13; 1 Pet. 1:2; Rom. 5:16).
8. The Spirit empowers us (Luke 4:14; 24:49; Rom. 15:19; Acts 1:8).
9. The Spirit fills us (Eph. 5:18; Acts 2:4; 4:8, 31; 9:17).
10. The Spirit teaches us to pray (Rom. 8:26-27; Jude 1:20).
11. The Spirit bears witness in us that we are children of God (Rom. 8:16).
12. The Spirit produces in us the fruit or evidence of His work and presence (Gal. 5:22-23).
13. The Spirit distributes spiritual gifts and manifestations (the outshining) of His presence to and through the body (1 Cor. 12:4, 8-10; Heb. 2:4).
14. The Spirit anoints us for ministry (Luke 4:18; Acts 10:38).
15. The Spirit washes and renews us (Titus 3:5).
16. The Spirit brings unity and oneness to the body (Eph. 4:3; 2:14-18). Here the Spirit plays the same role that He plays in the Godhead. The Spirit is the life that unites Father and Son. The Spirit plays the same role in the church. When the Spirit is operating in a group of people, He unites them in love. Therefore, a sure evidence of the Holy Spirit working in a group is Love and Unity. Not signs and wonders (those are seasonal and can be counterfeited).
17. The Spirit is our guarantee and deposit of the future resurrection (2 Cor. 1:22; 2 Cor. 5:5).
18. The Spirit seals us unto the day of redemption (Eph. 1:13; 4:30).
19. The Spirit sets us free from the law of sin and death (Rom. 8:2).
20. The Spirit quickens our mortal bodies (Rom. 8:11).
21. The Spirit reveals the deep things of God to us (1 Cor. 2:10).
22. The Spirit reveals what has been given to us from God (1 Cor. 2:12).
23. The Spirit dwells in us (Rom. 8:9; 1 Cor. 3:16; 2 Tim. 1:14; John 14:17).
24. The Spirit speaks to, in, and through us (1 Cor. 12:3; 1 Tim. 4:1; Rev. 2:11; Heb 3:7; Matt. 10:20; Acts 2:4; 8:29; 10:19; 11:12, 28; 13:2; 16:6,7; 21:4,11).
25. The Spirit is the agent by which we are baptized into the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:13).
26. The Spirit brings liberty (2 Cor. 3:17).
27. The Spirit transforms us into the image of Christ (2 Cor. 3:18).
28. The Spirit cries in our hearts, "Abba, Father" (Gal. 4:6).
29. The Spirit enables us to wait (Gal. 5:5).
30. The Spirit supplies us with Christ (Phil. 1:19, KJV).
31. The Spirit grants everlasting life (Gal. 6:8).
32. The Spirit gives us access to God the Father (Eph. 2:18).
33. The Spirit makes us (corporately) God's habitation (Eph. 2:22).
34. The Spirit reveals the mystery of God to us (Eph. 3:5).
35. The Spirit strengthens our spirits (Eph. 3:16).
36. The Spirit enables us to obey the truth (1 Pet. 1:22).
37. The Spirit enables us to know that Jesus abides in us (1 John 3:24; 4:13).
38. The Spirit confesses that Jesus came in the flesh (1 John 4:2).
39. The Spirit says "Come, Lord Jesus" along with the bride (Rev. 22:17).
40. The Spirit dispenses God's love into our hearts (Rom. 5:5).
41. The Spirit bears witness to the truth in our conscience (Rom. 9:1).
42. The Spirit teaches us (1 Cor. 2:13; John 14:26).
43. The Spirit gives us joy (1 Thess. 1:6).
44. The Spirit enables some to preach the gospel (1 Pet. 1:12).
45. The Spirit moves us (2 Pet. 1:21).
46. The Spirit knows the things of God (1 Cor. 2:11).
47. The Spirit casts out demons (Matt. 12:28).
48. The Spirit brings things to our remembrance (John 14:26).
49. The Spirit comforts us (Acts 9:31).
50. The Spirit makes some overseers in the church and sends some out to the work of church planting [through the body] (Acts 20:28; 13:2).
Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the (Holy Spirit)and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? (You have not lied just to human beings but to. (God.”)
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD.
New International Version Ephesians:13
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
I rather have the seal of God living in me.
THE BIBLE SAYS GOD IS THE SAVIOR.
THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS IS THE SAVIOR.
YOU CANNOT BE SAVED WITHOUT THE HOLYSPIRIT.
THE ONE TRUE GOD OF ISREAL IS TRIUNE.
@@reynaldoperez7285
As GOD's active force, the Holy Spirit is in essence GOD. However and as the Holy Spirit does not carry the wages of sin against humanity, it is not ultimately GOD, as with the Father.
As for Jesus being a saviour, the scriptures show Jesus was made a saviour by His Father, and in-contrast with His Father, who is never made a saviour by anyone.
PS, everything Jesus has, is by virtue of the Father; position, titles, names, authority, power, etc, etc, etc.
@SmalltimR
Why does God the Father call Jesus GOD.
New International Version
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Berean Standard Bible
And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
King James Bible
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come,
(THE Almighty)
King James Bible
(I am he that liveth, and was dead;) and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
King James Bible
Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
King James Bible
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
King James Bible
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY.
ALL THE PROPHECIES EVER SINCE THE BOOK OF GENESIS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED.
The bible says that the word became a man. (FLESH)
New International Version
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, (but a body you prepared for me;)
In other words before Jesus took on human nature, ( flesh).
What was he? John 1:14 = GOD became man.
HE WAS GOD, ONE MEMBER OF THE TRIUNE GODHEAD. BECAUSE GOD EXISTS IN 3 FATHER, SON, AND HOLYSPIRIT.
So before Jesus took on flesh HE was one with THE FATHER.
Sharing the glory with THE FATHER , SELF EXISTING WITH THE FATHER IN TOTAL HARMONY, AND IN PERFECT UNION.
THE bible says THE WORD took on the form of a servant .
New International Version philippians 2:7
rather, HE made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
In order to take on the role of a servant,
HE could not have been a servant.
JESUS was not a servant until HE took
On flesh, HE existed before HE took on flesh, but he wasn't a servant.HE IS God just Like the FATHER and just like the HOLYSPIRIT
JESUS said if you don't believe me, believe the works the miracles THAT I DONE.
New International Version john 10:38
But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the FATHER is in me, and I in the FATHER.”
It is very clear that Jesus was doing the things, That only God can do.
If doing the things that only God can do
Is not good enough for someone to believe, they must be blind.
What more can you possibly want HE lived out a life greater than anything written can explain.
He lived a sinless and perfect life.
New International Version
2 corinthians 5:21
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
No one on earth has ever done the works that he has done. He done it all !
NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT HE HAS DONE.
HE LIVED THE LIFE THAT ONLY GOD COULD LIVE.
HE DONE THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD
CAN DO.
HE FORGIVES SINS.
HE GIVES LIFE.
HE IS THE SAVIOR.
HE GAVE SIGHT TO THE BLIND.
HE HEALED THE SICK
HE WALKED ON WATER.
HE CALMED THE STORM.
HE CHANGED PEOPLE FROM THE INSIDE.
HE SHINED LIGHT INTO THE DARKNESS.
HE RAISED THE DEAD, HE RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE GRAVE, CONQUERING DEATH.
HE SAID ALL THAT BELONGS TO THE FATHER IS MINE. WHO CAN MAKE SUCH
A STATEMENT.
THE LIST GOES ON.
HE SAID IN JOHN 8:24
King James Bible
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins.
@@reynaldoperez7285
It's worth noting, that the words recorded in Hebrew 1.8-9, were not those of Jesus' own GOD and Father, but moreso, the human Psalmist - spoken for the King of Israel at the time or writing - of which, we read, would be identified as 'a God, with GOD above Him'
That said and equally notable is that these those foreshadowed Jesus' own Kingship on the same throne(ie, David/YHWH), and as a model to the hierarchy of GOD's appointed rule in heaven - ie, Jesus, and who is now referred-to, as a God with GOD above Him.
See; Psalm 45/ Hebrews 1.8-9
In John 1:1-14, Jesus, the Word made flesh, is both God (theos) and the creator of all. If the Word is the creator of all, then he is uncreated. Hence the Nicene creed phrase "begotten, not made". That is, the Son proceeded forth from the Father before creation.
John is not the only one who says Jesus is the creator, Paul does too:
Colossians 1:15-17 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn (προτοτοκος) of all creation.
16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things were created through him and for him.
17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. (ESV)
In John 17:5, Jesus praying to the Father, said:
And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. (ESV)
So John, Jesus, and Paul agree that the Person of Jesus existed with the Father BEFORE the world was created.
Do you affirm this?
NO. Your comments are based on ignorance. I hope that was clear.
@@TheTrinityDelusion ok then. So you go way beyond a simple denial of the Trinity doctrine. Am I right to say you have more in common with Muhammad than Arius?
@@davidjoly9816 NO, you would wrong again.
Alrighty then. With which of the following statements do you most agree?
A) The preincarnate person of Jesus was a divine being, created by the Father, before creation.
B) The preincarnate person of Jesus was begotten of the Father, of the same essence, before creation.
C) There was no preincarnate Jesus. Jesus was an otherwise normal man, but he was fathered by God himself.
D) There was no preincarnate Jesus. Jesus was a normal person, fathered by Joseph.
@@davidjoly9816NONE.
We do not live on a planet. The word planet is nowhere to be found in the Bible.
So we live on a big wafer in space?
No English word is found in the Bible.
The trinity is an UNFORGIVABLE SIN according to the Quran (worshipping "gods" with God). Son, Father, and Holy ghost or one in three or three in one IS NOT the equivalent of worshipping the Creator alone
2:31 loooool
Yeah that was hella funny😂😂😂😂I even replayed it
[GODHEAD IN THREE PERSONS (1 Joh. 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one. Ac. 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Rom. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Col. 2:9 For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Ps. 19:1-6 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handiwork. Day into day utters speech, and night into night shows knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voices not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them has he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.)
The Father, Son and Spirit are called God.
FATHER (Joh. 6:27); SON (Joh. 1:1-3; 8:58; 20:28; Ac. 20:28; Heb. 1:8); SPIRIT (Ac. 5:3-4)
All three persons are mentioned together in the same passages.
1. The baptism of Christ (Mt. 3:16-17).
2. The promise of the Comforter (Joh. 14:16).
3. The Kingdom Commission (Mt. 28:18-20).
4. Paul's apostolic benediction (2 Cor. 13:14).
5. The unity of the spirit (Eph. 4:4-6).
The Trinity working in unity as the Godhead.
1. Creation - The Spirit moved (Gen. 1:2). God spoke, Christ (the Word) created all things (Joh. 1:1-3); God said, "Let US make man in OUR image (Gen. 1:26; 1 Th. 5:23)
2. Incarnation - The Father gave (Joh. 3:16-17), the Spirit placed the seed (Mt. 1:18; Lk. 1:35), and the Son was born of a virgin (Mt. 1:18-25)
3. Resurrection (Ac. 13:30) - Father (Gal. 1:1), Son (Joh. 10:17), Spirit (Rom. 8:11)
4. Salvation (Eph. 1:3-14)
5. Prayer (Eph. 3:14; 5:20; 6:18)]
Every trinitarians show the samething you showing know twist the scriptures like always show me one verse that say The Father the son and the Holy Spirit is 3 person's in one in the Bible better yet show me that God is a person...or show me when God was hungry or sleepy but Jesus was and his God the second person in the trinity
@@Alamoboxing The Word of God is truth, l have nothing else to show you. Please study those verses and pray that God would reveal his truth to you as you read.
Notice how this heretic doesn't or can't touch the greek of John's prologue.
Notice how the above poster doesn't have a clue what he is talking about because he didn't care to look.
Did you actually parse the greek verbs and do a grammatical layout of the passage? @@TheTrinityDelusion
@@djm7038 Yeah I did. But it won't matter to you will it?
U have got it down from three to two, now let’s get it down to ONE. Hear o Israel the Lord our God is ONE lord and HIM only shalt though serve not them only. There is ONE spirit(God) and One body (flesh). God was in that flesh reconciling the world unto himself not someone else. The flesh was born so when God wore it he could communicate with the world he created.
John 17:3 makes it clear that the ONLY true God is the Father. Jesus is not the Father, therefore he is not the ONLY true God. Islam is the only faith which has the correct understanding of God.
Christianity is originally not trinitarian, and there are many non trinitarian christians. To say Islam is the only faith with the correct understanding is disingenuous, the true faith is non-denominational.
@@SoftBreadSoft Islam is the natural religion of mankind. Islam is the submission to Almighty God. Jesus, and every prophet before him, were all Muslims (those who submit to God) and followed Islam. It's a common misconception to believe the advent of Islam was with Muhammad. Islam existed before Adam.
Christians today are not Muslim because they do not submit as they reject God's final prophet and messenger. To reject one prophet is to reject all of them, and to reject any of God's commands is not submission. But the "Christians" at and after the time of Jesus who actually followed the real Jesus and his true teachings were Muslim. They would have had the correct understanding of God just as Muslims do today. Those teachings have remnants in their own sources (like John 17:3) but are full of corruption (like God rested and was refreshed). The only reliable source for the truth about God is Islam.
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD, THE TRINITY.
The bible says Jesus is from ancient times, from of old, from everlasting, and from eternity. HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE FATHER. It also tells us that he created everything that has ever been created, and nothing that has been created was created without him. All things are held together by him. We clearly know that in the beginning the father wasn't alone. In the book of Genesis, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. We also know that when God created man, he was not alone because he said let US create man in our image.
In Psalms 89:27 it says "I will also make him my firstborn, greatest of the kings of the earth." God the Father exalted Jesus while he was in the flesh. Philippians 2:5-6 clearly tells us that Jesus Christ who was God in his very nature did not consider using the fact that he was God to his advantage while he was in human form. But Jesus made himself nothing by taking on the role of a servant.
We know that he is eternal and our creator. Not to mention, the bible clearly shows that the Holy Spirit is a person who knows the mind of God. The spirit of God has emotions, the Holy spirit teaches, testifies, guides, speaks, enlightens, strives, commands, intercedes, sends workers, comforts, and he also works. When dealing with Ananais, Peter told him that he had not lied to man, but he had lied to God because Ananais had lied to the Holy Spirit. The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent when it says where can I go from your spirit. The Holy Spirit is known as He. The holy spirit was involved in the creation and HE is also known as another helper.
"In Matthew 4:16-17 we see that the Father speaks out of heaven when Jesus is baptized - a clear distinction. We also read in John 17:1 that Jesus prayed to the Father, and he carefully made a distinction between the two in saying "Father... glorify your Son, that the Son may glorify You." In fact, 1 John 2:1 tells us that Jesus is our Advocate with the Father. It doesn't make sense to equate Jesus and the Father as the same person, as these verses would be rendered nonsense.
John 14:20 again demonstrates the personhood of both the Son and Father when Jesus said "In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you." Since we realize that we are different persons than Jesus, this verse would argue that the Father is likewise distinct from the Son and not the same person.
Also we see the Holy Spirit is not Jesus. In John 14:26 Jesus again makes this explicit where He teaches "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things." Previous to this Jesus identified the Spirit as "another helper" (John 14:6). That word "another" is key. We also saw the Spirit in the Matthew 4 passage above descend on Jesus as a dove.
We know the Spirit is a person, because He has all the attributes of a person and not just "God's holy force" as some are wanting to believe. You cannot lie to an active force, nor can you grieve one (see Eph 4:30). Thus the Bible is clear in presenting each of the three members of the trinity as separate persons - each distinct - but each fully the one true God."
THE FATHER IS GOD.
THE SON IS GOD.
THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD.
NOT 3 GOD'S, BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE.
@@reynaldoperez7285 Not according to Jesus in the Bible. He makes it explicitly clear that the Father is the ONLY true God. Jesus is the Son. The Son is not the Father. Jesus is not God. Only the Father is.
@sub7se7en
God has always been in the business of salvation.
All that ever lived and were saved. were saved by faith, BY HIS GRACE.
From, Adam to the last man that would ever believe.
No man has ever accomplished the perfection and sinlessness of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
WE HAVE ALL FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD.
WE ARE LIVING IN THE DAY OF SALVATION, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEART.
TODAY IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE FREE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.
MY FRIEND, IF YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON, YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
IF YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS PERSON, YOU ARE NOT RELIGIOUS ENOUGH.
IF YOU ARE A FAITHFUL PERSON, YOU ARE NOT FAITHFUL ENOUGH.
IF YOU ARE A DEDICATED PERSON, YOU ARE NOT DEDICATED ENOUGH.
IF YOU ARE A COMMITTED PERSON, YOU ARE NOT COMMITTED ENOUGH.
IF YOU STOP SINNING, YOU HAVEN'T
STOP SINNING ENOUGH.
IF YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS MAN, YOU ARE NOT RIGHTEOUS ENOUGH.
DO I HAVE TO CONTINUE?
YOU ALSO HAVE FALLEN SHORT, AND ARE IN NEED OF A SAVIOR.
THE JEWS THAT WERE BLIND CRUCIFIED HIM, THE JEWS THAT COULD SEE WORSHIP HIM, EVERY RELIGION ON EARTH HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIM RATHER THEY ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM.
JESUS HIMSELF, ASKED THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION EVER.
WHOM DO YOU SAY THAT I AM?
HE DID ALL THE THINGS THAT ONLY GOD CAN DO, AND HE DID THEM IN THE FLESH.
HE SAID IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME BELIEVE THE WORKS THAT I DO.
I BELIEVE IN JESUS THE SON OF GOD,
WHO IS GOD HIMSELF IN THE FLESH.
THE TRIUNE GOD OF ISREAL, (THE TRINITY) THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB.
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY,
WITHOUT THE RESURRECTION OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST THERE IS NO HOPE OF BEING RESURRECTED.
THERE IS NO HOPE OF ANY RESURRECTION, APART FROM JESUS.
King James Bible
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
MY FRIEND THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR ETERNAL LIFE.
29The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31(They replied, “(BELIEVE) IN THE LORD JESUS, AND YOU WILL BE SAVED)
you and your household.” 32Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. 33At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized. 34The jailer brought them into his house and set a meal before them; HE WAS FILLED WITH JOY BECAUSE HE HAD COME TO( BELIEVE ) IN GOD -he and his whole household.
WOW, THE DISCIPLES PREACHED JESUS, AND THEY CAME TO BELIEVE IN GOD.
IN JOHN 6 IT SAYS.
28Then they asked him, “What must we do to be doing the works of God ”
29JESUS ANSWERED, “THE WORK OF GOD IS THIS: TO BELIEVE IN THE ONE HE HAS SENT.”
JESUS IS THE ONE GOD HAS SENT.
JESUS IS THE SAVIOR, THE MESSIAH, THAT THE JEWS WAITED FOR BUT DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM WHEN HE CAME.
New King James Version
and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, BECAUSE YOU DID NOT (KNOW) THE TIME OF YOUR VISITATION.”
CONSEQUENCES FOR NOT RECOGNIZING
JESUS CHRIST.
King James Bible
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
AT THIS MOMENT THE JEWS AND MUSLIMS ARE WORKING ON THEIR OWN
RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BECAUSE TRUE RIGHTEOUSNESS COMES BY FAITH.
BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS AND YOU
WILL BE SAVED.
New International Version
Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS. ( THAT IF RIGHTEOUSNESS CAME BY THE LAW
GOD WOULD HAVE GAVE US A LAW
WHEREBY WE COULD GET SAVED BY. )
New International Version galatians 3;21
Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! (FOR IF A LAW HAD BEEN GIVEN THAT COULD IMPART LIFE, THEN RIGHTEOUSNESS WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE COME BY THE LAW.
This verse clearly say that God never gave us a law, that could save us if we keep it, and that there is no law that was given for us to be saved by.
So if we are not saved by the law then how are we saved? Answer by grace through faith in Jesus.
Everyone trying to be good enough to be saved is delusional, Jesus is the only way to receive salvation.
After you have believe the gospel and are saved, then you can live as godly as you want but not to get saved, but because you are saved.
New International Version
I do not set aside the grace of God, (FOR IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COULD BE GAINED THROUGH THE LAW, ) CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING!”
WELL YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE.
BELIEVE, IN JESUS CHRIST, BELIEVE IN THE DEATH BURRIAL AND RESURRECTION, AND BE SAVED.
WHEN YOU ARE SAVED, GOD EQUIPS YOU TO LIVE OUT A GODLY LIFE.
YOU WILL BEAR FRIUT.
BUT BE ⚠️ WARNED. JUDE 1:4
New Living Translation
I say this because some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches, saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives. The condemnation of such people was recorded long ago, for they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
If you say that a man can lose salvation, you are saying salvation does not belong to the LORD.
If you do not believe God you make him a liar 💯 %.
One donut + one donut + one donut = one bag of donut 🍩’s . If you are calling three one, that’s why you’re fat.
Trinity arithmetic.
Jesus is God because his Father said so and the Son rightfully takes his Father’s DNA. What Jesus is not, is the One True God. That belongs to his Father only. The Father is older than the Son. The Father has no Father. The Son’s personality had a beginning sometime in eternity past. He was begotten of his Father. How we are not told. Just as Eve came from Adam’s rib, so , and can be rightfully worshiped. the Son came from the bosom of his Father.
DNA in heaven with spirits?
This does not come-across credibly and as we consider attributes such as physical DNA are now applicable in a none-physical realm however.
@@SmalltimR what’s the difference between Begotten and created? That will answer your question.😉
@@JudyAnn17
Here again, the notion that GOD can only beget other GOD's based on biological rules does not prove to be very credible however.
That said, and as humans are clearly not in the know when it comes to the spiritual realm, let alone citing laws to govern spirit beings there simply is not credibility to such claims beyond that of the vivid imaginations of people.|
PS, we cannot go wrong by adhering to GOD's written word, if anything, we are better for it - ie, humility
@@smalltimer4370 Jesus has his Father’s God nature. Because he is begotten from God, who is his Father. Whatever the substances of his Father, the Son has the same.
Just as you have the human nature from your human father.
The angels were created out of nothing.
I don’t think being sarcastic is a holy matter do you ? Remember , Angels are recording every motive , and every thought , and every word written.
@@JudyAnn17
Here again, and as there are no written affirmations for Jesus having His Father’s nature - and where such claims are based on human genealogy rather that is not applicable to spirits in heaven, such claims to not come-across credibly at all, but moreso, as a result of people's own vivid imaginations.
That said, and as it is written that Jesus is begotten of His Father who is GOD, it is also notable that it is not written, that whatever substances the Father has, the son has the same - here again, outlining that which is written(affirmed in truth), and that which is made-up of people's vivid imaginations.
Likewise, nowhere is it written that angels are created of nothing - here again, outlining such claims to be that of people's vivid imaginations rather than the written truth.
Here again, the advice is the same, in-that it is far better to adhere to what is written while accepting that there are things that we simply do not know at this time, rather than appealing to imaginary conditions, and as these are deviations of the truth, as a result of the human condition(sin) - follow Jesus, not men!
- good-bye and GOD bless