What are your thoughts on CH30, Tier 6 Troops, and a New Era? 🤔 EDIT: People keep mentioning Clash of Clans doing this but I want to remind everyone that that's an entirely different genre of game. You can't take what works from a City Defense game and implement it into a City/Kingdom builder game since the mechanics are completely different. Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content! :)
Lilith would dig her own grave. To get the T5 troops you need to marry the game, and after that you need a lot of resources to heal them. I don't want to imagine what you will need for T6. If they change the requirements for T5 units, it might be something interesting but the resources will be a pain in the ass.
@@nontonisme that would make no sense…. I am just going for t5 , and what you imply is that I wasted gems for t5 just for them to make it easier 😮💨😮💨
You are on point. (talking about tier6 units and possible research etc) It will increase the F2P and P2W players gap tremendously to the point F2P players will quit game, because they know they cant keep up. Keeping up with current commander releases and those other systems is giving me grey hairs already as a very low spender and i know other people feel the same way. That will create domino effect to P2W players quitting the game, because they could only compete with each other and not slay puny F2P peasants to feel good about themselves after spending thousands if not hundreds of thousands into the game. It will ruin the game, period. If Lilith wants to add something, make the graphics overhaul already and make combat experience more intuitive and easier.
If a f2p quit just bcs of a t6, they would have quit aniway. Plus most of these players are dead weight and play in kingdoms that dont buy a single chest. So its normal lilith doesnt care about them when even most leadership has to quick them from their kds.
even if they don't add t6, if they add a new system like the new crystal technology for a certain troop type, i'm gona quit as soon as they announce it
i don't quit if lilith give us 3 days event gold heads refund for fail invest commander then should be fair for F2p low spender then gems can be share by sending gift thats all
I am barely keeping interest in playing ROK after 4 years of daily play. As a low spender, I will quit the game if I have to go through the BS of building, research etc…
Thank you for the video. TBH, I think they already went over the P2W disparity threshold, but extra tiers would put the tin hat on it. If you know what I mean 😂 This is why you are the youtuber and I'm dropping comments to provoke the algorithm. You have cogent and concise explanation of what I'm thinking, whereas I have made up nonsense phrases like "P2W disparity threshold" 😂
might be contriversal, but if they add a new tier, i want it to be between t4 and t5. kind of a midway point between t5 and t4. it will have be inbetween the cost of t4 and t5. so basically, t5 would become t6, and this new tier would become t5. it would help f2p players as it will give them a better tier to work with on their way to endgame. academy lvl could be lvl 23 or 24.
Adding CH25 as the new age would probably be the best way to add this into the game and not have a bad meltdown. Feudal would be 21 -24 and 25 the final That could work
@retro5634 I've been playing for 4 years and I don't have t5 and in not pushing for t5 because of how expensive hospital bills are. (Of course eventually get t5) t6.... yikes
Adding in tier 6 will stratify F2P, low to medium spenders, and big spenders even further. With the rollout of formations and armaments in the duration I've been playing, it's obvious the path that has been chosen. If not tier 6 and/or new era, it will be something else. Pets, troop weapons, new buildings, KvK exclusive stuff, it will be designed to maximize revenues. If they kill the goose that lays golden eggs, they will just create a new game and start over.
6티어 유닛이 나온다면 유닛 만드는 자원이 조정되지 않을까요? 만약에 현재보다 저렴하게 자원이 조정된다면 무조건 좋은거 같은데요. 이 게임 자체가 이미 정체되어 많은 유져들이 kvk말고는 어떤 컨텐츠도 재미가 없는데 6티어를 만들기 위해 여러 이벤트를 끼어 넣는다면 재미 요소가 있지 않을까요? 물론 신규 유저를 위해 현재 1차 2차의 차수를 조금 더 늘리던지 다른 이벤트를 넣어서 5티어 유닛까지 올리는데 도움을 준다면 괜찮을거 같은데요
Add in buildings to increase city defense and or even a seige function that acts like a arrow tower to hit swarmers, rallies or even other cities. If they are going to add a "gunpowder" using troop it could be a T6 Archer troop. Personally as f2p I'd be fine with higher city hall level and t6 units
It wold be fun a system that boost players who really understand the game and are really good with commander mechanics (skills, talents etc) giving a special roster of commanders upgradable in a way we decide commander troop type , talents, skills , etc. obviously with an already multiple option for each category mentioned before Imagine pulling a commander that really make synergy with leonidas , barca , khan, Edward , Cheok , Harald etc that would be a F2p and low spender nice option and even spender could benefit since they would have many commanders maxed
I have been asking for T6 Troops and adding more research with better boosts.For as long as i have been playing this game. Its about time that it might become a reality
If they actually do add a t6 unit it will be clear that they want to milk it for all it has and they wouldn’t care if the game dies. They are keep doing the same mistakes not thinking about f2p and low spenders
I was in a very powerful kd with lot of whales , this one dude spent over 25k to get t5 before kvk 1 …imagine a whale doing that for t 6😂😂😂 50k atleast before kvk 1 like daaaaaamn
All of us wound like to see things that do not massively change the gap between dedicated f2p, low spenders players and whales. However, the developers need to make money somehow to keep developing the game and covering server costs, plus profits of course.
Theres a couple routes they’d have to take to not completely kill the game. Either add another season beyond season of conquest where you can use that troop tier. Mainly to stop the smashing of new players. Or add a different troop type that unlocks a different way to play (like siege towers we see). To avoid the controversy of T6 troops. I can see why they’re looking into it because they have hit a ceiling and need to add another chase. One that will take time to get to.
If tier 6 units come , There could be one possibility where Tier 5 becomes like Tier 4 and Tier 6 would become Tier 5 , So Tier 4 will feel like Tier 3 , So i think they'd probably reduce healing resources for T5 ??? 🤔 , If not it's going to be a huge gap for free to play players. People that use Tier 4 with Tier 5 tech will be forced to use Tier 5 units 😮
I don't think they will add new levels for city hall. I think it will be like expertising your city with some features. For example, if you choose gun powder, it will give more power to archers or ranged commanders.
I think adding higher tier of troops or buildings would be bad for the game. I started playing in 2020 during COVID lockdown and came into game when XY was a new commander, I can't imagine what it's like starting the game today, new players have to be so overwhelmed in playing catchup forever, if they do allow you to use your existing building and research speedups because I don't see why wouldn't they, new buildings are still just buildings and likewise for research, people who played the game for years have accumulated so much research and building speedups, we don't even bother waiting for helps when burning through speedups researching KVK tech. Even someone like Nephisto who spent a million dollars on this game felt frustrated in playing catchup no matter how much someone spends in the game, you're always going to feel behind the curve against veteran players. Lilth should instead focused on improving the overall game without adding additional layers of the game which will only make it more complicated for newer players to compete in the game.
With how T4 and T5 scales up in rss and time for both heal and train. I hope they will introduce either ways to get more ressources faster and more speed ups and/or research to reduce the cost in rss and time. Edit: If they go forward with additional levels, I'd love to see additional content to give us additional speedup and ressources to ease up the curve of 1-25. Maybe add an additional KvK cycle before new players get thrown into the wolves?
It would be tremendeously stupid to add T6 troops, and respectively let's say CH 28. Even if Lilith downgrade requirements and make T6 same as T5, still it's like 108 days of research for one troop type, and ofc a bunch of rss. At this point I need all of my speedups and rss for healing T5 during kvks, so I can't possibly put aside that kind of speedups/rss unless I invest a lot of money. To make a long story short i guess I'm gonna retire and I'm pretty sure the majority of SOC players will do the same.
I dont see any point to increase the troop tiers unless it was for money. They already have the crystal tech each kvk that makes them money. If they were to add tier 6, id like to see the resources be the same as tier 5 and tier 5 to be a middle ground between tier 4 and tier 6. Also, I'd like all the resources and speedups difference of lowering tier 5 to have tier 6 than the new tier 5. No extra resources or speedups are needed for a tier 6 they just become a new tier 5, and tier 5 lowered. Their is already a significant difference between tier 4 and 5. Making tier 5 a middle ground between tier 6 and 4 would create a better balance of rss and speedups to severely wounded units.
I wouldnt mind it if 1. T5 in general was made a little easier to get as f2p, I mean I got T4 before my Kingdom even got into the 3rd layer. And couldnt imagine getting close to T5 after a KvK 2. If the actual T6 units themselves were locked behind one of the KvKs, not the requirements for them, but judt the unit. This way, more free players can be close to getting T5 by the time Whales unlock T6 units. Just my opinion though.
As someone who’s only been playing less than a week I have $0 invested but I’m in a bad alliance. The leader isn’t active and I can’t see the purple spot on the map. I can’t upgrade certin things in the alliance center it says a commander needs to do it we also have no resources raged we can collect from but I can’t get into another alliance because my account isn’t old enough but I think my power is almost at 400k I’m a very active player I’m in and off multiple times a day not much to do now except battle barbarians and collet resources. Now waiting for building to upgrade take more than a day I think my city hall is at 13 or it’s being upgraded to 13 as we speak but if this happens I have nothing invested at this point I think I’d find another game
Legit question if they added a new tier how would people feel about current t5 being the new t6? So essentially they would add a new tier between current t4 and t5 like a t4.5? So that way there is more of a stepping stone between t4 and t5
Only and only if they reduce the cost of the other untis below and make a reasonable time to upgrade to t6 cause, t5 is already more than 100 days to unlock...each.
If they will add t6 they need to lower the cost of everything also the time when upgrading just like how supercell balance clash of clans while adding more TH level to the game
A great thing Lilith could do very easily is introduce level 26-30 barbarians and level 7 rss nodes in home kingdoms, would help players out greatly. Also what are level 26-30 barbarians missing from game?
Cross migration already makes the game suck as new players can't compete against even just developed f2p players with a year's head start. AOO sucks when your alliance gets matched with one that is even just a half year older. I'm all for separating the "wheat from the chaff" so CH26 would mean you have no cross migration rights at all and its your choice. So f2p can avoid upgrading and stay in SOCs with low to mid spenders and low to mid spenders have the realistic option of being slaughtered constantly by whales. P2W players fund the games, but they destroy them too. And that's something they never f'ing learn. Bad enough they feel they have the right to bully their own kingdom "teammates" into complying with their selfish whims.
I too will quit ROK if tier 6 shows up. No clue what the deal is but unless they end crystal tech we dont need it. T5 is too expensive in gold to train and even more expensive to heal. a higher level CH can work but will we need to take all buildings up with them? Changing CH 25 to Golden Age would be cool
20:48 - you couldn't be more wrong about this.. the difference is huge, but more f2p play the game than p2w and that's the only reason why f2p hasn't stopped and continues to play..
Like t6 should be only after some tipe of kvk season not in the early 4 kvk after first 6 kvks like in late kingdom development, it break the gap between players
They add new tier in Lords Mobile too , only for spenders, after 5 years of playing I quit this game and come to RoK , if they make it I will quit too ... This will be no sense for low spenders and F2P , only for money .... Everyone make games for money , it's big business for them , sadly we lost lots of good game by that
i already dont have enough time to train and heal t5s, also it took me almost 3 years to get the t5, the gap between t4 and t5 is insane, i would also quit, better just put my time in a brand new game if i am to suddenly become a pleb again in rok, aoe mobile is so good this could be what makes me switch also, thank you lillith for the good years tho i never played a game that long
Even though I spend 600-1000 a month t6 would end my time in rok. Finally done with chasing (almost all iconic 5 for rally, so i can spend way less now) Adding more sh*t + potentially having a new age (i play this game because i loved Caesar and the romans, alexander the great/hoplites. Any further and it stops being the game i chose.
As a F2P player i am 20+120+120 from 1st T5. Now having to do that in last 2 Years and 7 months. And then having to Work towards T6 is to Much! I think id delete the Game. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
New age would probably make Cordoba make sense. Make t6 siege bombard cannons. T6 arch early arquebust units who shot via one shot guns typically with a stick mount. Inf redesigned based on European armors meant to lessen gunfire in the 1400 - 1600s. T6 calv be more redesigned based on calvary tactics of those ages. They have to redesign costs or research times or lock all T6 to SOC post kvk 4 or 5 or it simply would not be fair to anyone prior to that. Back migration can switch all units to t5 with equivalence in speed ups provided maybe
People could say by the graph you showed RoK is dying already. There are different types of gamers here...I think some get to T5 and Ch25 and feel like nothing is left to do. The simcity types. Lilith is trying to figure out how to keep those people around. I see everyone in an uproar but I don't see anyone trying to give solutions to that issue. Plus all the assumptions we are making are pure speculation. I could say.....Lilith knows the T5 cost is too high and they are going to make that the cost of T6 and slot T5 into a spot between current T4/T5. Maybe they change the supply of nodes from 1.26 mil per level 6 to 5 mil. Stuff like that could fix a lot of the issue you talk about and would be extremely easy to do/code. That being said, I really enjoy your videos and I hope you keep up the good work.
They should not add it. It will be extremely unfair to f2p players and low spenders and it will take an extremely long time to research stuff and upgrade city halls. There will be an entire new age and the low spenders and f2p cannot keep up
I doubt lilith would make T6 overpowered, lets say they do, it can only be unlocked for one troop type, maybe its extremely slow in the field but tanky meaning it can only be used in rallys/garrisons... I think T6 could be great for the game, ofcourse they wont push the idea without knowing it will work well for f2p/low spenders
Also maybe a new kvk format, where T6 can be unlock for only that kvk, no crystal tech but a new type of technology for only that kvk as a test to see can it be implemented to daily rok life.
After six year playing this game, and as medium spender this update plan is make gap between wales and medium and low spender. So there is no mid spender exist. There will be only wales and f2p guys. I will probably quit game bc of it. Lilith will lose mid spenders on this game.
if they do t6 I will quite the game than mean more RSS to use for open field , even more pay to win ( when it already the case but this time it will be tooo huge advantage for whale )
On history issue: gunpowder was used at end of medieval age and start of renaissance. 3 commanders in the game actually used it. Mehmed, Gonzalo and Babur.
Rok is more concerned about keeping existing players then working on early game development/late game transition. It's a massive problem. Unless you buy a t5 account you need to spend like 4 years developing you're original account to keep up with everyone else.
So true. I've put a year and a half in logging in daily and still feel so far behind many players. The gear is crazy expensive, accumulating gold heads is tough, farming / barb chaining is tiedious already. Why make it more difficult. Focus on gameplay mechanics. It shouldnt be laggy and i shouldnt be staring at dots in 2024
What are your thoughts on CH30, Tier 6 Troops, and a New Era? 🤔 EDIT: People keep mentioning Clash of Clans doing this but I want to remind everyone that that's an entirely different genre of game. You can't take what works from a City Defense game and implement it into a City/Kingdom builder game since the mechanics are completely different. Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more Rise of Kingdoms content! :)
I'd quit if they do 🤷🏻♀️
No in the hell we need to unit's. That would significantly make f2p-p2w player's gap
@@janihaavisto79 Game's gonna be dead for sure. Only whales stay behind to keep the game alive by wasting even MORE money 🤷🏻♀️
I have already spent a few thousand on this game I'm not pushing to t6💀
@@MimiDragoonsyes you will 😊
Lilith would dig her own grave. To get the T5 troops you need to marry the game, and after that you need a lot of resources to heal them. I don't want to imagine what you will need for T6. If they change the requirements for T5 units, it might be something interesting but the resources will be a pain in the ass.
This almost feel Like they are drunk. Yes literally dig there own game
This would be a 🐳 whale move
I berly thought about the resources you would need for tire 6 I berly got tire 5 and it’s crazy the amount of resources you need
STOP ADDING BIGGER GAPS BETWEEN F2P AND P2W PLAYERS ITS ALREADY EXTREME ENOUGH
Agreed
They can't even update aethel and campaign mode, don't worry to much guys LOL
YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Just quit
@@nadz2135 IM GOOD
You are absolutely right
T6 coming to ROK, I'm quitting. Permanently. Good luck spending more money 😂
I doubt they'll actually do it after seeing the community reaction to this
@@OmniarchOfficial lol like they actually care about the overall community 😂😂😂 if the whales want it they do it 😮💨
Except. They're downgrade any requirement for makin an t5.
T5 is just insane 🤣.
@@nontonisme that would make no sense…. I am just going for t5 , and what you imply is that I wasted gems for t5 just for them to make it easier 😮💨😮💨
@@trupaul5375 well... Yeah... I think that is the death of game
You are on point. (talking about tier6 units and possible research etc)
It will increase the F2P and P2W players gap tremendously to the point F2P players will quit game, because they know they cant keep up. Keeping up with current commander releases and those other systems is giving me grey hairs already as a very low spender and i know other people feel the same way. That will create domino effect to P2W players quitting the game, because they could only compete with each other and not slay puny F2P peasants to feel good about themselves after spending thousands if not hundreds of thousands into the game.
It will ruin the game, period.
If Lilith wants to add something, make the graphics overhaul already and make combat experience more intuitive and easier.
facts facts facts facts 👏
True. Bro you have my respect
If a f2p quit just bcs of a t6, they would have quit aniway. Plus most of these players are dead weight and play in kingdoms that dont buy a single chest. So its normal lilith doesnt care about them when even most leadership has to quick them from their kds.
T6 already exists. Its called Crystal tech
Just got to SOC, it’s not looking good
Just got to SOC, it’s not looking good
Fr.. crystal tech is a bitch
I dont even have T5 yet and now Lilith is wanting to add T6? Hell nah
Fr same
Who will quit rok if they add T6 in rok 👇
even if they don't add t6, if they add a new system like the new crystal technology for a certain troop type, i'm gona quit as soon as they announce it
i don't quit if lilith give us 3 days event gold heads refund for fail invest commander
then should be fair for F2p low spender
then gems can be share by sending gift thats all
Me and that in the same mili second
Me!
Props for realizing ottoman empire already has and been using gunpowder since 14th century 👏
😎😎
China had them in the 9th century 💀
I am barely keeping interest in playing ROK after 4 years of daily play. As a low spender, I will quit the game if I have to go through the BS of building, research etc…
Thank you for the video. TBH, I think they already went over the P2W disparity threshold, but extra tiers would put the tin hat on it. If you know what I mean 😂 This is why you are the youtuber and I'm dropping comments to provoke the algorithm. You have cogent and concise explanation of what I'm thinking, whereas I have made up nonsense phrases like "P2W disparity threshold" 😂
LMAO I appreciate that man, and don't worry I know what you mean :)
might be contriversal, but if they add a new tier, i want it to be between t4 and t5. kind of a midway point between t5 and t4. it will have be inbetween the cost of t4 and t5. so basically, t5 would become t6, and this new tier would become t5. it would help f2p players as it will give them a better tier to work with on their way to endgame. academy lvl could be lvl 23 or 24.
It already exists is called iconic upgrades. Gives base stats.
Base stats is what defines t1-t5
As a Mini whale...I will quit if they release T6
Adding CH25 as the new age would probably be the best way to add this into the game and not have a bad meltdown. Feudal would be 21 -24 and 25 the final
That could work
Exactly my thoughts, but then the question becomes..... why? 🤣
@@OmniarchOfficial Lilith smoking pipe AGAIN 😭
Bro just stop
If another tier drops I'm out 07
I don't even have tier 5 yet bro😬
@retro5634 I've been playing for 4 years and I don't have t5 and in not pushing for t5 because of how expensive hospital bills are. (Of course eventually get t5) t6.... yikes
How about they add museum like mechanic for civilization i mean for example france get a special buff for charles martel
15:20 TRILLION TRILLION TRILLION 😭😭😭😭 IM DEAD
That would be ROK in 2030 if they add more tiers of units 😭😭
For real, wtf was that xD.
Adding in tier 6 will stratify F2P, low to medium spenders, and big spenders even further. With the rollout of formations and armaments in the duration I've been playing, it's obvious the path that has been chosen. If not tier 6 and/or new era, it will be something else. Pets, troop weapons, new buildings, KvK exclusive stuff, it will be designed to maximize revenues. If they kill the goose that lays golden eggs, they will just create a new game and start over.
6티어 유닛이 나온다면 유닛 만드는 자원이 조정되지 않을까요? 만약에 현재보다 저렴하게 자원이 조정된다면 무조건 좋은거 같은데요. 이 게임 자체가 이미 정체되어 많은 유져들이 kvk말고는 어떤 컨텐츠도 재미가 없는데 6티어를 만들기 위해 여러 이벤트를 끼어 넣는다면 재미 요소가 있지 않을까요? 물론 신규 유저를 위해 현재 1차 2차의 차수를 조금 더 늘리던지 다른 이벤트를 넣어서 5티어 유닛까지 올리는데 도움을 준다면 괜찮을거 같은데요
Add in buildings to increase city defense and or even a seige function that acts like a arrow tower to hit swarmers, rallies or even other cities. If they are going to add a "gunpowder" using troop it could be a T6 Archer troop. Personally as f2p I'd be fine with higher city hall level and t6 units
Only thing i think would be cool is if they make t6 units just for your civs unique units
Maybe added new civilization that specialize unit in supporting combat. For ex. Making a barrier, range tower thus it more interesting in combat.
Just test these new tech/Units in a new KVK format. No true impact on F2P and whales can go all in that specific KVK. Please like the message
I would say when you reach 25, you get Renaissance if they ever add, but i doubt it, but maybe it would be cool
If they introduce t6, the game just becomes even more p2w
Me and all my frnds
It wold be fun a system that boost players who really understand the game and are really good with commander mechanics (skills, talents etc)
giving a special roster of commanders upgradable in a way we decide commander troop type , talents, skills , etc.
obviously with an already multiple option for each category mentioned before
Imagine pulling a commander that really make synergy with leonidas , barca , khan, Edward , Cheok , Harald etc
that would be a F2p and low spender nice option and even spender could benefit since they would have many commanders maxed
Bring king Shaka into rok he was the Zulu king used a spear and knobkerrie in battle (he would be an infantry commander if you go off the history)
I have been asking for T6 Troops and adding more research with better boosts.For as long as i have been playing this game. Its about time that it might become a reality
I I asked the game devs for Level 30 a couple of years ago and they torpedoed that idea back then. I hope it happens soon
Rok about to be the next Game of war fire age
If they actually do add a t6 unit it will be clear that they want to milk it for all it has and they wouldn’t care if the game dies. They are keep doing the same mistakes not thinking about f2p and low spenders
I was in a very powerful kd with lot of whales , this one dude spent over 25k to get t5 before kvk 1 …imagine a whale doing that for t 6😂😂😂 50k atleast before kvk 1 like daaaaaamn
All of us wound like to see things that do not massively change the gap between dedicated f2p, low spenders players and whales. However, the developers need to make money somehow to keep developing the game and covering server costs, plus profits of course.
Theres a couple routes they’d have to take to not completely kill the game.
Either add another season beyond season of conquest where you can use that troop tier. Mainly to stop the smashing of new players.
Or
add a different troop type that unlocks a different way to play (like siege towers we see). To avoid the controversy of T6 troops.
I can see why they’re looking into it because they have hit a ceiling and need to add another chase. One that will take time to get to.
If tier 6 units come , There could be one possibility where Tier 5 becomes like Tier 4 and Tier 6 would become Tier 5 , So Tier 4 will feel like Tier 3 , So i think they'd probably reduce healing resources for T5 ??? 🤔 , If not it's going to be a huge gap for free to play players. People that use Tier 4 with Tier 5 tech will be forced to use Tier 5 units 😮
I don't think they will add new levels for city hall. I think it will be like expertising your city with some features. For example, if you choose gun powder, it will give more power to archers or ranged commanders.
I think adding higher tier of troops or buildings would be bad for the game. I started playing in 2020 during COVID lockdown and came into game when XY was a new commander, I can't imagine what it's like starting the game today, new players have to be so overwhelmed in playing catchup forever, if they do allow you to use your existing building and research speedups because I don't see why wouldn't they, new buildings are still just buildings and likewise for research, people who played the game for years have accumulated so much research and building speedups, we don't even bother waiting for helps when burning through speedups researching KVK tech. Even someone like Nephisto who spent a million dollars on this game felt frustrated in playing catchup no matter how much someone spends in the game, you're always going to feel behind the curve against veteran players. Lilth should instead focused on improving the overall game without adding additional layers of the game which will only make it more complicated for newer players to compete in the game.
With how T4 and T5 scales up in rss and time for both heal and train. I hope they will introduce either ways to get more ressources faster and more speed ups and/or research to reduce the cost in rss and time.
Edit: If they go forward with additional levels, I'd love to see additional content to give us additional speedup and ressources to ease up the curve of 1-25. Maybe add an additional KvK cycle before new players get thrown into the wolves?
Agreed 100%, same thing happend in castle clash, more levels more this and that and it was just too much even for a casual spenders
imagine if they add a whole new kind of commanderd such as mythic level
It would be tremendeously stupid to add T6 troops, and respectively let's say CH 28. Even if Lilith downgrade requirements and make T6 same as T5, still it's like 108 days of research for one troop type, and ofc a bunch of rss. At this point I need all of my speedups and rss for healing T5 during kvks, so I can't possibly put aside that kind of speedups/rss unless I invest a lot of money. To make a long story short i guess I'm gonna retire and I'm pretty sure the majority of SOC players will do the same.
I mean renaissance and gunpowder makes the most sense, Mehmed II is a good example from that age
Bro the T6 Troop you got there look so good 🤩🤩
LOL I know right? Almost makes me want it… but no 🤣🤣
I dont see any point to increase the troop tiers unless it was for money. They already have the crystal tech each kvk that makes them money. If they were to add tier 6, id like to see the resources be the same as tier 5 and tier 5 to be a middle ground between tier 4 and tier 6. Also, I'd like all the resources and speedups difference of lowering tier 5 to have tier 6 than the new tier 5. No extra resources or speedups are needed for a tier 6 they just become a new tier 5, and tier 5 lowered. Their is already a significant difference between tier 4 and 5. Making tier 5 a middle ground between tier 6 and 4 would create a better balance of rss and speedups to severely wounded units.
Where we getting these rss from? It’s going to take a few 100k just to compete lol
I wouldnt mind it if
1. T5 in general was made a little easier to get as f2p, I mean I got T4 before my Kingdom even got into the 3rd layer. And couldnt imagine getting close to T5 after a KvK
2. If the actual T6 units themselves were locked behind one of the KvKs, not the requirements for them, but judt the unit. This way, more free players can be close to getting T5 by the time Whales unlock T6 units.
Just my opinion though.
I got the survey a couple days ago in game. My view negative. I ain’t got time for that grind again. I’ll quit if they implement it.
As someone who’s only been playing less than a week I have $0 invested but I’m in a bad alliance. The leader isn’t active and I can’t see the purple spot on the map. I can’t upgrade certin things in the alliance center it says a commander needs to do it we also have no resources raged we can collect from but I can’t get into another alliance because my account isn’t old enough but I think my power is almost at 400k I’m a very active player I’m in and off multiple times a day not much to do now except battle barbarians and collet resources. Now waiting for building to upgrade take more than a day I think my city hall is at 13 or it’s being upgraded to 13 as we speak but if this happens I have nothing invested at this point I think I’d find another game
100% on point, adding a new tier of units will just break the game.
Legit question if they added a new tier how would people feel about current t5 being the new t6? So essentially they would add a new tier between current t4 and t5 like a t4.5? So that way there is more of a stepping stone between t4 and t5
Only and only if they reduce the cost of the other untis below and make a reasonable time to upgrade to t6 cause, t5 is already more than 100 days to unlock...each.
If they will add t6 they need to lower the cost of everything also the time when upgrading just like how supercell balance clash of clans while adding more TH level to the game
Yeah but Clash of Clans is a completely different genre so its kinda apples to oranges at that point
When playing these games I love the challenge in growing stronger
A great thing Lilith could do very easily is introduce level 26-30 barbarians and level 7 rss nodes in home kingdoms, would help players out greatly. Also what are level 26-30 barbarians missing from game?
Renaissance age would be the only possible acceptable new age addition, and no further than mid renaissance.
Cross migration already makes the game suck as new players can't compete against even just developed f2p players with a year's head start. AOO sucks when your alliance gets matched with one that is even just a half year older. I'm all for separating the "wheat from the chaff" so CH26 would mean you have no cross migration rights at all and its your choice. So f2p can avoid upgrading and stay in SOCs with low to mid spenders and low to mid spenders have the realistic option of being slaughtered constantly by whales. P2W players fund the games, but they destroy them too. And that's something they never f'ing learn. Bad enough they feel they have the right to bully their own kingdom "teammates" into complying with their selfish whims.
imagine some having t6 in kvk1 lmao
I hope i see the graphic update, more civilizations and new type events for all players (not only whales)
680 days in f2p i just got my castle to 25 like 3 weeks ago i can't even imagine t6....
Yeah i got asked in a survey to
I too will quit ROK if tier 6 shows up. No clue what the deal is but unless they end crystal tech we dont need it. T5 is too expensive in gold to train and even more expensive to heal. a higher level CH can work but will we need to take all buildings up with them? Changing CH 25 to Golden Age would be cool
T6 will be near impossible to keep up in regards with having enough resources, it’s hard enough with T5 for a normal player
20:48 - you couldn't be more wrong about this.. the difference is huge, but more f2p play the game than p2w and that's the only reason why f2p hasn't stopped and continues to play..
It's a natural progression in all mobile games . Every time revenue drops, they have to create ways to keep people spending money .
Like t6 should be only after some tipe of kvk season not in the early 4 kvk after first 6 kvks like in late kingdom development, it break the gap between players
They add new tier in Lords Mobile too , only for spenders, after 5 years of playing I quit this game and come to RoK , if they make it I will quit too ... This will be no sense for low spenders and F2P , only for money .... Everyone make games for money , it's big business for them , sadly we lost lots of good game by that
That's another game I could have brought up too...
Exactly why I stoped playing wow after years of being dedicated to playing lv70-80 I quit the day they released.
Exactly, there are endless examples of people quitting games over moving goal posts.
I think we should buff resource nodes/storehouse, lower t5 resources req and nerf crystal tech
i already dont have enough time to train and heal t5s, also it took me almost 3 years to get the t5, the gap between t4 and t5 is insane, i would also quit, better just put my time in a brand new game if i am to suddenly become a pleb again in rok, aoe mobile is so good this could be what makes me switch also, thank you lillith for the good years tho i never played a game that long
If they add t6 then they need to make t5 easier
Even though I spend 600-1000 a month t6 would end my time in rok. Finally done with chasing (almost all iconic 5 for rally, so i can spend way less now)
Adding more sh*t + potentially having a new age (i play this game because i loved Caesar and the romans, alexander the great/hoplites. Any further and it stops being the game i chose.
Hey @Omniarch question, How does your game have the option to press a keyboard in rise of Kingdoms ?
As a F2P player i am 20+120+120 from 1st T5. Now having to do that in last 2 Years and 7 months. And then having to Work towards T6 is to Much! I think id delete the Game. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
New age would probably make Cordoba make sense. Make t6 siege bombard cannons. T6 arch early arquebust units who shot via one shot guns typically with a stick mount. Inf redesigned based on European armors meant to lessen gunfire in the 1400 - 1600s. T6 calv be more redesigned based on calvary tactics of those ages.
They have to redesign costs or research times or lock all T6 to SOC post kvk 4 or 5 or it simply would not be fair to anyone prior to that. Back migration can switch all units to t5 with equivalence in speed ups provided maybe
Yo omniarch are you going to do the zenith of power?
Im guessing what new commanders for new age would be 🤣🤣
If they do this, I'm done and will take my RoK monthly budget elsewhere. I'm 3.5 years in I'm not doing that....
I think a lot of players feel that way too
People could say by the graph you showed RoK is dying already. There are different types of gamers here...I think some get to T5 and Ch25 and feel like nothing is left to do. The simcity types. Lilith is trying to figure out how to keep those people around. I see everyone in an uproar but I don't see anyone trying to give solutions to that issue. Plus all the assumptions we are making are pure speculation. I could say.....Lilith knows the T5 cost is too high and they are going to make that the cost of T6 and slot T5 into a spot between current T4/T5. Maybe they change the supply of nodes from 1.26 mil per level 6 to 5 mil. Stuff like that could fix a lot of the issue you talk about and would be extremely easy to do/code. That being said, I really enjoy your videos and I hope you keep up the good work.
I haven't even beaten the allegations that I'm using t3 in kvk1 😭😭😭
When u reach the gold post what then what the point in continue to play
They should not add it. It will be extremely unfair to f2p players and low spenders and it will take an extremely long time to research stuff and upgrade city halls. There will be an entire new age and the low spenders and f2p cannot keep up
facts
I would rather they add VIP levels than T6
I doubt lilith would make T6 overpowered, lets say they do, it can only be unlocked for one troop type, maybe its extremely slow in the field but tanky meaning it can only be used in rallys/garrisons... I think T6 could be great for the game, ofcourse they wont push the idea without knowing it will work well for f2p/low spenders
Also maybe a new kvk format, where T6 can be unlock for only that kvk, no crystal tech but a new type of technology for only that kvk as a test to see can it be implemented to daily rok life.
After six year playing this game, and as medium spender this update plan is make gap between wales and medium and low spender. So there is no mid spender exist. There will be only wales and f2p guys.
I will probably quit game bc of it. Lilith will lose mid spenders on this game.
IF LILITH ADD MORE GAP BETWEEN F2P AND P2W I WILL NO LONGER PLAY IT, IT'S ALREADY HARD FOR F2P TO CATCH P2P .
These are all rumors about opening a new level for armies.. There is no update after T5
Bro I’m imagining how much will cost of speedup and rss healing T6 🤣🤦🏻
Whales plays with whales. Perfect
Tier 6 will destroy the game, it will make it officially a P2W only game.
if they do t6 I will quite the game than mean more RSS to use for open field , even more pay to win ( when it already the case but this time it will be tooo huge advantage for whale )
Hi Omniarch it's ok -ish to add T6 but Lilith must reshuffl t5 - t4 trading and healing cost
I guess but then why LOL
@@OmniarchOfficial because lilith want to earm more money lol =)
It’s not really “earning” money at that point.. more like finding ways to squeeze money out of whale players
I hope this never actually come to the game or Will definitely quit my 4 years account forever 😂😅😅
Spend alot of money on the game but if they add t6 am out i will leave game and gun powder no thanks
All of these would be terrible for the game. Literally no need for any of it
I'll delete my account and quit forever if they add t6
I got the survey, and it’s was fun
How About Instead Of A new Age They Update The Map Graphic Wise Im Tired Of Seeing Flat Land
Well, they should give everybody else some extra power and cool shit or something cause we already get fucked up enough by rich bastards
On history issue: gunpowder was used at end of medieval age and start of renaissance. 3 commanders in the game actually used it. Mehmed, Gonzalo and Babur.
Well, they should give everybody else some extra power and cool shit or something cause we already get fucked up enough by rich bastards
It would be nice if they add T6 and remove crystal tech
They'd have to completely remove crystal tech and the whole formation system before I'd be willing to listen.
Rok is more concerned about keeping existing players then working on early game development/late game transition. It's a massive problem. Unless you buy a t5 account you need to spend like 4 years developing you're original account to keep up with everyone else.
So true. I've put a year and a half in logging in daily and still feel so far behind many players. The gear is crazy expensive, accumulating gold heads is tough, farming / barb chaining is tiedious already. Why make it more difficult. Focus on gameplay mechanics. It shouldnt be laggy and i shouldnt be staring at dots in 2024
Only thing rok want is moneyfrom whales
I bought a full cav t5 account with fully crit 4-2 set , 4 gold sets at iconic 1 and nearly vip 18, even now i feel like im behind a bunch of players
Omni out here spitting truth and fire! Couldn't agree more with every single thing you said bro!
Thank you! 😁