Thanks for posting this vid! Well worth changing the filter when you change the oil. Vw don't recognise that this is a changeable part of the haldex. VW Parts Dept looked ant me stupid when I asked for it !! Although I have VCDS - you don't need it to pop the filter out as in this vid. The pump runs constantly when the vehicle is running. Simply start the car for a few seconds and the pump will run and pressurise the filter and help to move it out. Don't leave the vehicle running though because it will quickly empty the oil out of the system. Gently rotation and pulling action with pliers will then allow the unit to be removed.Change filter if you can because mine was well glogged up at 60k miles even though I had changed the oil at 40K.
Just did this on my parents’ ‘09 Tig. Save yourselves the expense of Vagcom and strain of trying to pry the filter out; instead (after breaking free the fill and drain plugs, in that order), remove the bolts that hold the filter in the unit and start the car, and watch the filter pop right out. Let the engine run the pump instead of Vagcom. I had my dad start it while I watched. Then simply remove the white plastic “head” and black filter with bent needle nose pliers, as seen. Please please please don’t aggravate yourselves with driving a screw into the unit or wrestling with pliers to remove!
Just came to say thanks. I replaced the filter with a "kit" as my 2010 Tiguan had developed a leak from the filter housing cap. This was due to corrosion creeping in and upto the ring seals, I cleaned as best I could and fitted new filter then sealed the new cap in place and it's good as gold. The old filter was tough to get out because of the alloy corrosion, the new one slipped in fairly easy with a little grease on the o rings. Thanks a bunch for the video, my mechanic said it wasn't a serviceable part 🤔. It took me 2 hours from entering the workshop do tidied up. Working off axle stands. My oil was slightly green in colour but I think it has been changed at some point. Car has done 120k.
Great walk thru. I'm doing mine later today. 60k service is due. Dealer apparently serviced it at 30k under the free services but I doubt they did the filter, or checked the pump screen. No dealer in my area had the filter in stock. Big surprise when you pay $150 for a service and all they do is drain and fill. The quickest way to pop that filter out is to just turn the key on and pressure should pop it out. Another good tip for you is while you are there drain and fill both the front and rear differentials. At 40k mine looked nasty. I used a good Bel-Rey synthetic differential fluid so I'll have a peak in 20k when the 80k is due.
Just did this on 2011 Audi TT convertible. Wonderful video saved me a lot. Lots of extra reinforcements on the convertible. Swore the entire time but completed
Would you please eloborate on that procedure ? as far as I know starting the car makes the pump turn on . So I would just need to let it it run a bit and check if the level is still good.
bassot44 Yes you could do that, but neither way was shown in the video. He was already using VCDS earlier in the video so I have no idea why this last step was not mentioned at all.
Thanks for the walk through. I just did this, using your instructions, on my 2012 Tiguan. The filter bolts were a pain to get back in and torqued down but it’s done. Better than paying $250 to the dealership to do and they would only change the fluid!!!
In Australia 140 AUD(100 USD) to get this done at VW dealership, 1l fluid is around 50 bucks, $90 for labor. I thinks its rip off. How long job takes, 30 min max?
Hi Richard, I was curios about what is the normal instruction from the VW dealers in other countries ... Down here in Brazil they say only the fluid needs to be changed. Based on you comments I see the instruction is pretty much the same anywherelse in the world. I will spend a lot of money, but I will change the filter also!!! Is really hard to find this part number here.
Hello User yes it takes about an half an hour although I did let mine drain for most of while I went and ran some errands. Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I rarely check to see if I had any comments. Cheers 🍻
Leo Paes Leo I asked three dealerships around me about the Haldex service and they all said the same thing. The service is only for the fluid and that the filter is a lifetime item and doesn’t get replaced. I’ve never seen a lifetime filter that didn’t at least get washed occasionally. On another note. I local independent VW service shop and tuner said they do change the fluid and filter for and $200 US . Still cheaper to do it yourself though. Cheers 🍻
Nice video thanks for making this for Gen4 Haldex / Tig owners. or to be owners. I have an intermittent problem with my Gen4 haldex. Sometimes it'll store a DTC code which will de-activate the use of rear wheel drive, and sometimes its fine on the first start up. To correct, sometimes it requires a 2nd start of the engine. I clear the code and it comes back occasionally. On OBDeleven it states: Haldex Clutch Control Valve - Mechanical Malfunction - DTC 02248. Not sure if its pump or ecu related, and would hate to start throwing money at the wrong parts to fix it. 185k kms, and haldex oil changed done at 160k kms with a suspicion its never had a haldex service done before that according to service history book. I hear corrosion can mess the ECU's up, but the weather where I am doesn't snow, so I don't think this could be it. Would love to hear if anyone else had the same experience.
Thanks for the video. Just did this on my 2012 Tiguan SE 4motion. Couldn’t get the filter cap to come off (let alone fight to get the plastic filter out) so just did the fluid change. Car has 65K miles and fluid came out very dark
Hello, thanks for the video. You said about 'be able to hear the lane change' after, was your car making a noise before? - Mine makes a wheel bearing type noise whilst accelerating (it goes away on decel), I'm wondering if this procedure might cure it? - Thanks
Shouldn't you start the car and allow the haldex pump to fill the filter and prime the system after refilling with oil, and then refill until it over flows as the level will have dropped? Thanks
I have a MK4 VW R32. And of course it’s equipped with Gen 1 Haldex system, the filter for mine is a screw on type with a unique special tool to get at it. Great job and explanation 👍🏼
So the front differential, rear differential and the haldex are 3 separate units? Also, I’ve heard the front differential is built into the transmission. Does that mean that if you get a transmission service done that the differential gets serviced as well? Also, if the haldex and rear differential are different, does that mean they both need separate servicing done? Such as the haldex needs its own fluid change and the rear differential does as well?
Technically, the front differential is built into the transmission and is lubricated by the transmission fluid. However, the bevel gear or power take-off that transfers power to the rear of the car is a separate gear box with gear oil that is bolted to the side of the transmission. It has to be serviced separately. In the rear, there is the Haldex which is the electronically controlled clutch and a differential which sends power to the wheels. There are two separate fluids in two separate reservoirs built together in one housing. Both would need to be serviced separately. Bevel gear: ruclips.net/video/wxnkqB20Vzs/видео.html Rear Differential: ruclips.net/video/f8rlU_zuT0c/видео.html
Great video. How did you finally get the filter back into the housing? I've heard that it is next to impossible. It would be a real bummer to get the old one out only to find that a new one cannot be fitted! Can you confirm that starting the car will activate the pump and push the filter out? Thanks.
It only took a little force to get the filter to go into the housing. I used a pry bar to push on the cover while getting leverage from either the exhaust or a mounting bolt. The pump does run when you start the engine.
Hey ! Thank you for the video. When you put the new filter, do you have to « discharge the pump the other way to put it back ? » or you use the vagcom only when taking off the old filter ?
Thanks for the video. My 2013 Tiguan 4Motion recently went in for a haldex service and a few other jobs and it's since been locking the rear diff when pulling away from standing, but only when the steering whele is turned. It's a similar feeling to thinking the electronic parking brake is sstill applied. There's no power and you can feel the resistance in the drive train. I've looked at my rear wheels and they are locked when this happens. When pulling away in a straight line it's fine. Any ideas what may be causing it to lock? Do you think the haldex service I paid for was just a fluid change and they didn't change the filter? Many thanks.
That sounds bad. You need to read codes with VCDS to see if there are codes in the ABS or 4Motion modules. Also, check the fluid levels in both the Haldex coupling AND the rear differential. The tech may have drained the fluid from the differential accidentally. Here is my video on the rear differential service: ruclips.net/video/f8rlU_zuT0c/видео.html
Hey man, I have the exact same issue. Did you find the cause for your problem? I have done the rear differential oil change and Haldex would be next one.
@@jonneviljanen Big Jill for my car. Needed the haldex unit to be rebuilt as it had burnt the internals apart. Previous owner must have neglected servicing. To be honest, I would avoid another 4 motion in my next car as a result but that's just me
@@jeffjeffjeff2 Thanks for the fast reply! Fingers crossed that I might still save mine. My car has about 170 000km atm and haldex fluid has been changed every 60 000km but the filter has probably been only changed one time and that was at 120 000 when I asked the mechanic to change it. I do hope that filter + pump change might save it but I don't have high hopes 🙄.
Would turn on the car activate the pump and therefore push the filter out? Or you absolutely need that program to activate the pump? Great video thank you
i have a 2014 Tiguan 4 motion, at what miles should the Haldex oil/filter be changed? Different websites say different things, some say 40k others say 50 or 60k!
I've had a few people tell me that you need vagcom to prime the filter when you change it. Did you check the fluid level after you went out and drove around? Just wondering how much fluid stays in the filter.
Had to replace faulty haldex 4 oil pump on my VW Tiguan 2012. After the oil and filter change (new one) the new filter keep leaking. Then I bought a new one and the filter keep leaking again even more. I tried a special seal paste but with no success. Any advice. Thanks
Hi! Nice video. What is the risk if you disengage the pump from the vcds software or just unplug it's pins? I just want the option to switch between 2wd and 4wd whenever I want. Will the haldex still engage then if the pump is off? Is that a bad ideea? Thanks!
hi great video, is it correct that you should use vcds or other program to check the temperature of the haldex oil for correct level. if so does anyone no what the temperature should be? Thanks
@sbcncsu did you have any issues with the haldex, like any fault codes in awd system or it was just your thought that the filter and oil in haldex needs to be changed to ensure a longer life of the system? I am asking because few days ago a fault in awd module came on saying: “00448 haldex clutch pump (v181) 002 - lower limit exceeded” i have deleted it, but after another 10-15 miles i decided to check it again with vcds and the same fault was there again. I wonder if it is because of lack of the fluid in the system or is it because the filter might be already cloged? Any thoughts? I have ~39k miles on the dash.
cialestino No issues. The factory Haldex change interval it's 40k miles. The filter is a wear part so I changed it. Glad I did too, it was pretty dirty.
cialestino check the electrical connections, you may have corrosion in the connector. It may also be the pump itself, the motor may be failing. You can run the pump with VCDS to test it.
sbcncsu am i supposed to run the pump test while the car is only with the ignition on or should i start the engine and then run the pump test? Also if the pump is failing, will the test show that something is wrong with it or it just won’t make any sound ant that’s how i will know it’s not working?:)
Please, which is the capacity of the tank ( deposit, reservoir )? The bottle has 850 ml. Which is the name of the tool to include the oil ? I have a 2015 tiguan.
QUESTION! Once the new filter was put in, did you prime it with haldex oil? or did you just put it in dry and have the system automatically fill it up with oil?
The filter is difficult to remove without using the pump pressure to help dislodge the filter. You don't have to run the pump with VCDS, you can just turn on the key and the pump will run for a short time to discharge the filter.
@@sbcncsu hi here is an update, it turns out my 2015 has a Gen 5, it gets an intermittent 16670 code, after doing research its quite possible the screen on the pump is clogged up. My options in the AWD module on VCDS are much different than yours. Apparently 2013 and newer tiguans can have gen 5 haldex, cheers
Hey. I'm really confused. Where is this haldex located. I'm having both dealerships and vw specialty mechanics say this isnt on north american tiguans. Is this located next to the rear differential? Or is this on the transmission? Would really like some assistance
The haldex unit is built into the rear differential. The driveshaft connects to the input of the haldex clutch, which connects to the differential, all in the same housing. This type of haldex was used from ~2009-2017. The MQB Tiguan uses the new Borg Warner version of Haldex, Gen V.
Just got a pre-owned tiguan 2012 at 70,000 km mileage. Noticed an error on the Haldex clutch pump being unreadable. Could this be just filter issue or the pump is dead? I'm from Zimbabwe where replacement parts are hard to come buy, so I need the info so I can order online if necessary.
An error means the controller has sensed an issue with the pump itself OR the wiring to the pump. If the pump is clogged and not performing well, it could be the filter. Definitely want to try that first since the pumps are so expensive. \
@@sbcncsu yes i had found that video first, which made me realize they are dirrefent units! I just canceled my service at VW for today. Looks like ill be tackling this project my self.
i have same differential and haldex clutch on skoda yeti 2.0 TDI, and same. so it is only one type of oil and one filter for whole differential, or diff have own oil 75W90? somewhere i see 2 type of oils, one for haldex clutch, 250ml and 75w90 for differential.0.8 litre. this video shows only changing haldex clutch oil and filter, no differential oil?
I feel screwed by vw in this.ive looked had vw run vin.had an Independent shop check.my 2012 has no filter.anyone else with this?I just cleaned pump screen and new fluid.but definitely no filter.
I purchased a kit that contained the plugs. I agree that you could reuse the plugs but they are inexpensive. It is up to you. If you live in an area where there is a lot of snow or you off-road much, the plugs might be corroded.
THANK YOU...do you know if I can remove the PUMP without changing the oil? aparently.. my pump is bad.. because the code i get is 00448 and i want to check if i can fix it. but if i remove it.. i lose the oil¿?
@@galaxydefender1033 I would expect most of not all of the oil to drain out if you remove the pump. ShopDap has a video on pump replacement that may give you the information you need.
My Haldex pump is broken so I can’t push out the filter via activating the pump. Is it possible to just take out the filter without activating the pump? I want to change everything (oil, filter, pump, bolts)
Yes, the pump pressure just helps make it easier. It will take some force to get it out. Those hose pliers I showed in the video should do the trick. Good luck!
Top hatte 2 jahre alles mit ser. Vertag von vw . Die nur öl geweckzelt nie filter . Nun wolte ich selber machen und hatte lieber selber machen sollen. Filter ging nich raus war der erste von kauf nach datum aufdruck😑. Nun öl 2 mal mit filter ,1 pumpe neu aber räder drehen durch bei nasse fahrbahn . Icv noch mal vcds ausgelesen fehler kuplungsgrad steuer ventil 2248 habe ich gelöscht und karm nie wieder . Aber allrad geht trotzden nich is steuergrät def . Oder doch lamellen runter ? . Bei fahren zeigt er bar an von 0-6 bar kp ob genug is .tep lamellen sagte er von 40 kurz mal 120 grad . Wurde mich um antwort freuen will unnötig geldaus geben danke
Sorry that I don't read German. From the translation, it seems you are having an error in the Haldex? It can only be 2 items, the pump or the controller. Check the controller for output to the pump. If you turn on the pump in VCDS, you should hear it run and feel it running when you touch it. If it is not running, check for 12 volts coming from the controller.
Buongiorno una informazione quando cambi olio filtro carburante devo fare lo spurgo da la pompa cp.4 dimi la procedura come fare per non danneggiare la pompa , ciao ti saluto amico!
I think they think that the filter is a screen because in some transmissions all the would be is a screen. My 09G has a screen. Later years though had a real paper filter and maybe even redesigned valve body. I think that was 2015 and up for the 09G. I wonder if they did that to try to fix problems that previous 09Gs have suffered from. I for one do not believe that a simple screen can keep the fluid clean enough for the tight tolerances of a valve body. Coincidentally the valve body is what wears out on the 09G and causes shifting problems. I would think that some very fine particles are making it through the screen and causing the valve body bores to wear very prematurely and cause problems like gear hunting and slipping. It is a shame that they designed such an awful transmission. If the thing would just shift right they would be some of the best cars. It seems to me they just had to ruin things one way or another.
Perdonare la traduzione di Google: Sì, il filtro può essere modificato. È necessario estrarre il filtro dall'unità Haldex con una pinza o un altro strumento.
Thanks for posting this vid! Well worth changing the filter when you change the oil. Vw don't recognise that this is a changeable part of the haldex. VW Parts Dept looked ant me stupid when I asked for it !! Although I have VCDS - you don't need it to pop the filter out as in this vid. The pump runs constantly when the vehicle is running. Simply start the car for a few seconds and the pump will run and pressurise the filter and help to move it out. Don't leave the vehicle running though because it will quickly empty the oil out of the system. Gently rotation and pulling action with pliers will then allow the unit to be removed.Change filter if you can because mine was well glogged up at 60k miles even though I had changed the oil at 40K.
should you untorque the bolts on the housing before you start it ? or just leave them torqued, turn the car on, and untorque and remove?
Just did this on my parents’ ‘09 Tig. Save yourselves the expense of Vagcom and strain of trying to pry the filter out; instead (after breaking free the fill and drain plugs, in that order), remove the bolts that hold the filter in the unit and start the car, and watch the filter pop right out. Let the engine run the pump instead of Vagcom. I had my dad start it while I watched. Then simply remove the white plastic “head” and black filter with bent needle nose pliers, as seen. Please please please don’t aggravate yourselves with driving a screw into the unit or wrestling with pliers to remove!
This is a great suggestion!
Just came to say thanks. I replaced the filter with a "kit" as my 2010 Tiguan had developed a leak from the filter housing cap. This was due to corrosion creeping in and upto the ring seals, I cleaned as best I could and fitted new filter then sealed the new cap in place and it's good as gold. The old filter was tough to get out because of the alloy corrosion, the new one slipped in fairly easy with a little grease on the o rings. Thanks a bunch for the video, my mechanic said it wasn't a serviceable part 🤔.
It took me 2 hours from entering the workshop do tidied up. Working off axle stands.
My oil was slightly green in colour but I think it has been changed at some point. Car has done 120k.
Thank you for taking the time making this movie. Currently watching this while my apparently front wheel Tiguan is stuck in the drive way. :)
Great walk thru. I'm doing mine later today. 60k service is due. Dealer apparently serviced it at 30k under the free services but I doubt they did the filter, or checked the pump screen. No dealer in my area had the filter in stock. Big surprise when you pay $150 for a service and all they do is drain and fill. The quickest way to pop that filter out is to just turn the key on and pressure should pop it out.
Another good tip for you is while you are there drain and fill both the front and rear differentials. At 40k mine looked nasty. I used a good Bel-Rey synthetic differential fluid so I'll have a peak in 20k when the 80k is due.
Just did this on 2011 Audi TT convertible. Wonderful video saved me a lot. Lots of extra reinforcements on the convertible. Swore the entire time but completed
can you detail what you did? Im due to service my 2014 Audi TTS roadster Haldex soon....
Great video!
It´ll save me a lot of time now when I know how to do it.
Thanks a lot, mate! 👍
Doing this on my golf 6 R tomorrow thanks for the tips
fuh i probs should too lmao
Excellent tuto clair et précis bravo
After the fill you need vcds again to activate the pump and purge any air from the system then brim the fluid again.
Would you please eloborate on that procedure ? as far as I know starting the car makes the pump turn on . So I would just need to let it it run a bit and check if the level is still good.
bassot44 Yes you could do that, but neither way was shown in the video. He was already using VCDS earlier in the video so I have no idea why this last step was not mentioned at all.
Thanks for the walk through. I just did this, using your instructions, on my 2012 Tiguan. The filter bolts were a pain to get back in and torqued down but it’s done. Better than paying $250 to the dealership to do and they would only change the fluid!!!
In Australia 140 AUD(100 USD) to get this done at VW dealership, 1l fluid is around 50 bucks, $90 for labor. I thinks its rip off. How long job takes, 30 min max?
Hi Richard, I was curios about what is the normal instruction from the VW dealers in other countries ... Down here in Brazil they say only the fluid needs to be changed.
Based on you comments I see the instruction is pretty much the same anywherelse in the world.
I will spend a lot of money, but I will change the filter also!!! Is really hard to find this part number here.
Hello User yes it takes about an half an
hour although I did let mine drain for most of while I went and ran some errands. Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I rarely check to see if I had any comments. Cheers 🍻
Leo Paes Leo I asked three dealerships around me about the Haldex service and they all said the same thing. The service is only for the fluid and that the filter is a lifetime item and doesn’t get replaced. I’ve never seen a lifetime filter that didn’t at least get washed occasionally.
On another note. I local independent VW service shop and tuner said they do change the fluid and filter for and $200 US . Still cheaper to do it yourself though.
Cheers 🍻
@@leopaesleo4674 60 000 km filtr, 30 000 km oil exchange. For the haldex of this generation.
Nice video thanks for making this for Gen4 Haldex / Tig owners. or to be owners. I have an intermittent problem with my Gen4 haldex. Sometimes it'll store a DTC code which will de-activate the use of rear wheel drive, and sometimes its fine on the first start up. To correct, sometimes it requires a 2nd start of the engine. I clear the code and it comes back occasionally. On OBDeleven it states: Haldex Clutch Control Valve - Mechanical Malfunction - DTC 02248. Not sure if its pump or ecu related, and would hate to start throwing money at the wrong parts to fix it. 185k kms, and haldex oil changed done at 160k kms with a suspicion its never had a haldex service done before that according to service history book. I hear corrosion can mess the ECU's up, but the weather where I am doesn't snow, so I don't think this could be it. Would love to hear if anyone else had the same experience.
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Thanks for the video. Just did this on my 2012 Tiguan SE 4motion. Couldn’t get the filter cap to come off (let alone fight to get the plastic filter out) so just did the fluid change. Car has 65K miles and fluid came out very dark
Hello, thanks for the video. You said about 'be able to hear the lane change' after, was your car making a noise before? - Mine makes a wheel bearing type noise whilst accelerating (it goes away on decel), I'm wondering if this procedure might cure it? - Thanks
Great video and brilliantly explained. Thanks very much
Cheers for the vid! Will be doing it on my Skoda Yeti on Monday.
Shouldn't you start the car and allow the haldex pump to fill the filter and prime the system after refilling with oil, and then refill until it over flows as the level will have dropped? Thanks
That's a great idea.
I have a MK4 VW R32. And of course it’s equipped with Gen 1 Haldex system, the filter for mine is a screw on type with a unique special tool to get at it.
Great job and explanation 👍🏼
So the front differential, rear differential and the haldex are 3 separate units? Also, I’ve heard the front differential is built into the transmission. Does that mean that if you get a transmission service done that the differential gets serviced as well?
Also, if the haldex and rear differential are different, does that mean they both need separate servicing done? Such as the haldex needs its own fluid change and the rear differential does as well?
Technically, the front differential is built into the transmission and is lubricated by the transmission fluid. However, the bevel gear or power take-off that transfers power to the rear of the car is a separate gear box with gear oil that is bolted to the side of the transmission. It has to be serviced separately.
In the rear, there is the Haldex which is the electronically controlled clutch and a differential which sends power to the wheels. There are two separate fluids in two separate reservoirs built together in one housing. Both would need to be serviced separately.
Bevel gear:
ruclips.net/video/wxnkqB20Vzs/видео.html
Rear Differential:
ruclips.net/video/f8rlU_zuT0c/видео.html
Great video. How did you finally get the filter back into the housing? I've heard that it is next to impossible. It would be a real bummer to get the old one out only to find that a new one cannot be fitted! Can you confirm that starting the car will activate the pump and push the filter out? Thanks.
It only took a little force to get the filter to go into the housing. I used a pry bar to push on the cover while getting leverage from either the exhaust or a mounting bolt. The pump does run when you start the engine.
Cheers! Great and informative video, helped me out a lot
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Hey ! Thank you for the video. When you put the new filter, do you have to « discharge the pump the other way to put it back ? » or you use the vagcom only when taking off the old filter ?
I only use the pump to build pressure to pop out the filter.
sbcncsu okay thank you again, mate, for your tutorial. Really helpful :)
Thanks for the video. My 2013 Tiguan 4Motion recently went in for a haldex service and a few other jobs and it's since been locking the rear diff when pulling away from standing, but only when the steering whele is turned. It's a similar feeling to thinking the electronic parking brake is sstill applied. There's no power and you can feel the resistance in the drive train. I've looked at my rear wheels and they are locked when this happens.
When pulling away in a straight line it's fine. Any ideas what may be causing it to lock? Do you think the haldex service I paid for was just a fluid change and they didn't change the filter? Many thanks.
That sounds bad. You need to read codes with VCDS to see if there are codes in the ABS or 4Motion modules. Also, check the fluid levels in both the Haldex coupling AND the rear differential. The tech may have drained the fluid from the differential accidentally. Here is my video on the rear differential service: ruclips.net/video/f8rlU_zuT0c/видео.html
Hey man, I have the exact same issue. Did you find the cause for your problem?
I have done the rear differential oil change and Haldex would be next one.
@@jonneviljanen Big Jill for my car. Needed the haldex unit to be rebuilt as it had burnt the internals apart. Previous owner must have neglected servicing. To be honest, I would avoid another 4 motion in my next car as a result but that's just me
@@jeffjeffjeff2 Thanks for the fast reply! Fingers crossed that I might still save mine. My car has about 170 000km atm and haldex fluid has been changed every 60 000km but the filter has probably been only changed one time and that was at 120 000 when I asked the mechanic to change it.
I do hope that filter + pump change might save it but I don't have high hopes 🙄.
@@jonneviljanen filter and pump change should do the job I think, from what I have read on some tiguan forums. Best of luck, let me know the outcome
Thanks for making this video... doing mine today.
Question: Haldex is the manufacturer of the filter. Is that particular filter for the gear box?
Yes. Haldex was its own company but was bought by Both Warner a couple of years ago. Haldex is now a BW brand.
Would turn on the car activate the pump and therefore push the filter out? Or you absolutely need that program to activate the pump? Great video thank you
It is my understanding that if you start the car, the Halls pump will activate.
Haldex! I love autocorrect...
Okay thank you I’ll give that a try !
Kevin Pero that’s what I did. Popped the filter out enough for me to grab it with a pair of needle nose pliers.
Thank you!! Great video.
i have a 2014 Tiguan 4 motion, at what miles should the Haldex oil/filter be changed? Different websites say different things, some say 40k others say 50 or 60k!
40K is what was recommended in my 2012 manual.
I've had a few people tell me that you need vagcom to prime the filter when you change it. Did you check the fluid level after you went out and drove around? Just wondering how much fluid stays in the filter.
Stephen Ozga good question. Next time I'm under there I'll check the fluid and top off. I'll report back.
Wenn man den neuen filter einsetzt. Muss man was beachten? Erst filter rein dann den rest. Oder in einen da rein
Assembly is the reverse of removal. Place the filter into the housing and attach the cover.
Had to replace faulty haldex 4 oil pump on my VW Tiguan 2012. After the oil and filter change (new one) the new filter keep leaking. Then I bought a new one and the filter keep leaking again even more. I tried a special seal paste but with no success. Any advice. Thanks
Great video although I thought you might have just cleaned any dust and crap off before undoing the filter bolts.
great video...really good job...
Hi! Nice video. What is the risk if you disengage the pump from the vcds software or just unplug it's pins? I just want the option to switch between 2wd and 4wd whenever I want. Will the haldex still engage then if the pump is off? Is that a bad ideea? Thanks!
You would set many error codes. That is not recommended. Search for burnout box on the web for a solution to your quest.
useful video, thanks
hi great video, is it correct that you should use vcds or other program to check the temperature of the haldex oil for correct level. if so does anyone no what the temperature should be? Thanks
Unlike the transmission, the temperature does not need to be monitored when filling or checking the fluid level.
CAN YOU DO THIS WORK WITHOUT THE VCDS?
Yes. Instead of activating in VCDS, Start the engine with the filter bolts loose.
@sbcncsu did you have any issues with the haldex, like any fault codes in awd system or it was just your thought that the filter and oil in haldex needs to be changed to ensure a longer life of the system? I am asking because few days ago a fault in awd module came on saying: “00448 haldex clutch pump (v181) 002 - lower limit exceeded” i have deleted it, but after another 10-15 miles i decided to check it again with vcds and the same fault was there again. I wonder if it is because of lack of the fluid in the system or is it because the filter might be already cloged? Any thoughts? I have ~39k miles on the dash.
cialestino No issues. The factory Haldex change interval it's 40k miles. The filter is a wear part so I changed it. Glad I did too, it was pretty dirty.
cialestino check the electrical connections, you may have corrosion in the connector. It may also be the pump itself, the motor may be failing. You can run the pump with VCDS to test it.
sbcncsu am i supposed to run the pump test while the car is only with the ignition on or should i start the engine and then run the pump test? Also if the pump is failing, will the test show that something is wrong with it or it just won’t make any sound ant that’s how i will know it’s not working?:)
cialestino you can test with the engine off and listen for the sounds of the pump. It should sound smooth, steady and not too loud.
sbcncsu ok, will try. Thanks for prompt answers
Please, which is the capacity of the tank ( deposit, reservoir )? The bottle has 850 ml. Which is the name of the tool to include the oil ? I have a 2015 tiguan.
Geraldo Kroeff you will use ~700-750 mL to fill the reservoir.
how can I find the generation of my Haldex system? I have 2017 tig 4motion (Tiguan limited)
QUESTION! Once the new filter was put in, did you prime it with haldex oil? or did you just put it in dry and have the system automatically fill it up with oil?
It primed as soon as I turned the key on.
Is this same oil and filter for my Audi Q3 2012 Quattro 2.0 TDI ? Please let me know?
Yes, it should be the same in your Q3.
@@sbcncsu Thanks for the quick reply, really appreciate and count me in as one you your subscribers. Thanks
Do i need to clean pump screen when changing filter? I have gen 4
I am not sure. I know the later Gen V doesn't have a filter and the screen has to be cleaned. I'll check the next time I change the fluid on mine.
Thanks brother
Got a question can one use a haldex oil pump from another car brand e.g haldex oil pump from a Golf 6 R into a Volvo S60 T6 year models 2012?
This is a good question! I would think so since the pump plugs into the Haldex controller and not the vehicle.
Why you activated the pump via VAG com ? i'ts mandatory to release the filter ?
The filter is difficult to remove without using the pump pressure to help dislodge the filter. You don't have to run the pump with VCDS, you can just turn on the key and the pump will run for a short time to discharge the filter.
If you replace only the pump, you need vagcom software ?
You should not need VCDS/VAGCOM just to change a pump. It is possible that a fault in the system may need to be cleared to regain 4MOTION function.
Is this the same Haldex unit found on a 2015 Tiguan? Having an issue where no power is going to the rear wheels
Yes, same Haldex unit. Your pump isn't engaging or your Haldex clutch has failed.
@@sbcncsu hi here is an update, it turns out my 2015 has a Gen 5, it gets an intermittent 16670 code, after doing research its quite possible the screen on the pump is clogged up. My options in the AWD module on VCDS are much different than yours. Apparently 2013 and newer tiguans can have gen 5 haldex, cheers
Has the same procedure the front differential with Dsg?
Not sure. I haven't worked on a DSG equipped VW.
Hey. I'm really confused. Where is this haldex located. I'm having both dealerships and vw specialty mechanics say this isnt on north american tiguans. Is this located next to the rear differential? Or is this on the transmission? Would really like some assistance
The haldex unit is built into the rear differential. The driveshaft connects to the input of the haldex clutch, which connects to the differential, all in the same housing. This type of haldex was used from ~2009-2017. The MQB Tiguan uses the new Borg Warner version of Haldex, Gen V.
ruclips.net/video/f8rlU_zuT0c/видео.html for the differential fluid change.
I like verry much finding out what is the inside of the filter. Now you now howe nessery a oilchange is.Greetings from Hungary
Just got a pre-owned tiguan 2012 at 70,000 km mileage. Noticed an error on the Haldex clutch pump being unreadable. Could this be just filter issue or the pump is dead? I'm from Zimbabwe where replacement parts are hard to come buy, so I need the info so I can order online if necessary.
An error means the controller has sensed an issue with the pump itself OR the wiring to the pump. If the pump is clogged and not performing well, it could be the filter. Definitely want to try that first since the pumps are so expensive.
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How much fluid did you fill it with? I did my mk6 golf r tonight and I could only get about 200 ml of fluid in there
You should be able to get 600-800 mL into the Haldex. Keep trying at different angles to get the fluid to go into the fill hole and not pour back out.
Is replacing the oil/filter on haldex different from servicing the oil of the rear differential?
Yes. I have another video of the differential fluid replacement.
ruclips.net/video/f8rlU_zuT0c/видео.html
@@sbcncsu yes i had found that video first, which made me realize they are dirrefent units! I just canceled my service at VW for today. Looks like ill be tackling this project my self.
А как же сеточка на насосе? Почему не почистили?
i have same differential and haldex clutch on skoda yeti 2.0 TDI, and same. so it is only one type of oil and one filter for whole differential, or diff have own oil 75W90? somewhere i see 2 type of oils, one for haldex clutch, 250ml and 75w90 for differential.0.8 litre. this video shows only changing haldex clutch oil and filter, no differential oil?
Ivan Martinko haldex has separate oil from the differential.
haldex oil is 750 ml, sorry..
Ivan Martinko Differential fluid change video ruclips.net/video/f8rlU_zuT0c/видео.html
dont need to operate pump, remove cover, and simply insert a screw into end of filter grab it with pliers pull and remove,
does it the same on 2009 tiguan 4Motion?
It might. Look at the location of the filter on yours and compare. If the filter is held in by two bolts like mine, they are the same.
I feel screwed by vw in this.ive looked had vw run vin.had an Independent shop check.my 2012 has no filter.anyone else with this?I just cleaned pump screen and new fluid.but definitely no filter.
Buongiorno come va cambiato? in base a KM o ogni 3 ANI, grazie.
MAN BLU a 40k mile o 65k km.
Grazie.
2012 Tiguan Haldex folyadék és szűrő
How much oil is needed, thanks
The bottle of 850mL is enough to complete the change. You will have a small amount left over in the bottle, maybe 50mL.
Why so you need new drain plugs? You can use the same old ones?
I purchased a kit that contained the plugs. I agree that you could reuse the plugs but they are inexpensive. It is up to you. If you live in an area where there is a lot of snow or you off-road much, the plugs might be corroded.
THANK YOU...do you know if I can remove the PUMP without changing the oil? aparently.. my pump is bad.. because the code i get is 00448 and i want to check if i can fix it. but if i remove it.. i lose the oil¿?
@@galaxydefender1033 I would expect most of not all of the oil to drain out if you remove the pump. ShopDap has a video on pump replacement that may give you the information you need.
ruclips.net/video/hcEYK9rmJKY/видео.html start at about 10:00
BRAVO!
Is this a gen4?.
Yes, since this has a filter, it is Gen4. It is my understanding that the Gen V did away with the filter and went to just a screen on the pump inlet.
My Haldex pump is broken so I can’t push out the filter via activating the pump. Is it possible to just take out the filter without activating the pump? I want to change everything (oil, filter, pump, bolts)
Yes, the pump pressure just helps make it easier. It will take some force to get it out. Those hose pliers I showed in the video should do the trick. Good luck!
sbcncsu thanks for the reply!
Is that a gen3 haldex ?
No, this one is gen4 Haldex.
Top hatte 2 jahre alles mit ser. Vertag von vw . Die nur öl geweckzelt nie filter . Nun wolte ich selber machen und hatte lieber selber machen sollen. Filter ging nich raus war der erste von kauf nach datum aufdruck😑. Nun öl 2 mal mit filter ,1 pumpe neu aber räder drehen durch bei nasse fahrbahn .
Icv noch mal vcds ausgelesen fehler kuplungsgrad steuer ventil 2248 habe ich gelöscht und karm nie wieder . Aber allrad geht trotzden nich is steuergrät def . Oder doch lamellen runter ? . Bei fahren zeigt er bar an von 0-6 bar kp ob genug is .tep lamellen sagte er von 40 kurz mal 120 grad . Wurde mich um antwort freuen will unnötig geldaus geben danke
Sorry that I don't read German. From the translation, it seems you are having an error in the Haldex? It can only be 2 items, the pump or the controller. Check the controller for output to the pump. If you turn on the pump in VCDS, you should hear it run and feel it running when you touch it. If it is not running, check for 12 volts coming from the controller.
Buongiorno sono un privato devo avere perforza il tester per cambiare olio e filtrino a hldex
No. Just turn the key to the "On" position. The pump will run and push the filter out.
Grazie mille amico!
Buongiorno una informazione quando cambi olio filtro carburante devo fare lo spurgo da la pompa cp.4 dimi la procedura come fare per non danneggiare la pompa , ciao ti saluto amico!
@@ivascodumitru6813 diesel or petrol? I am only familiar with the petrol TSi engines.
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Good evening how to change fluid box speed audi q5 tdi 177 hp four thank you
Simo, I don't quite understand your question. Sorry.
@@sbcncsu drain oil gearbox audi q5 tdi 2.0 quattro
@@simosafi1186 the Quattro system is different and I do not have any experience with Audi.
I think they think that the filter is a screen because in some transmissions all the would be is a screen. My 09G has a screen. Later years though had a real paper filter and maybe even redesigned valve body. I think that was 2015 and up for the 09G. I wonder if they did that to try to fix problems that previous 09Gs have suffered from. I for one do not believe that a simple screen can keep the fluid clean enough for the tight tolerances of a valve body. Coincidentally the valve body is what wears out on the 09G and causes shifting problems. I would think that some very fine particles are making it through the screen and causing the valve body bores to wear very prematurely and cause problems like gear hunting and slipping. It is a shame that they designed such an awful transmission. If the thing would just shift right they would be some of the best cars. It seems to me they just had to ruin things one way or another.
I think my tiguan 2013 have gen 3, the filter is in the side not in top
On my 2012, Gen IV, the filter is on the side.
Doesn’t the car have to be level
Yes. In the video, the rear is on ramps and the driveway slopes toward the rear of the car so it is mostly level.
Salve scusa, ma senza VCDS filtro si puo cambiare?grazie.
Perdonare la traduzione di Google: Sì, il filtro può essere modificato. È necessario estrarre il filtro dall'unità Haldex con una pinza o un altro strumento.
This black filter have a check valve inside?
No check valve in the filter. Starting at 15:58, you can see what is inside the black filter when I cut it open.
@@sbcncsu for shure it has
@@_.R.F.X.L._ Watching the video again, it does have a check valve or pressure relief valve.