@@jeanhawken4482 Oh dear - doesn't Hale attract some witchy gnome types with funny ideas about body parts. Not a good sign matters about her are trustworthy.
Baroness Hale was elevated to the position of Deputy President of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom in July 2013, making her the most senior female in the UK judiciary. Very nice woman, and surprisingly easy to talk to for someone of her position.
@@JupiterThunder No doubt you are a yank. UK does not link political beliefs to our Judges - our Judges are politically un-biased - do your homework and stop posting tripe. In the USA - the rulings of judges have little regard because they have already allied themselves to one of the two parties. It is truly a flawed judicial system. Cast your eye across the pond America - and learn how to do it properly.
@@JupiterThunder An indigenous Brit? That sounds painful, I am sure you can get a cream for that. Recent Supreme Court judgement in the proroging of Parliament, in the country, demonstrates the independence of the judiciary. The Supreme Court is made up of the highest intellectually qualified lawyers: they succeed as barristers, become QCs and then work their way through the court system to arrive at the Supreme Court. They do not get there by pulling votes from punters. They are appointed by virtue of their excellence as barristers and lawyers. Lord Justice Hale came to the supreme Court by way of academia. Please tell us what the structural change Tony Blair introduced to render the justice system in adequate? In point of fact I’ve just bought Tony Blair‘s biography. I consider him to be one of the greatest prime minister’s this country has ever had.
@@JupiterThunder Utter rubbish. The UK judiciary is free of political bias. They are chosen for their intellectual progress and understanding, judgement, and learning of the law. No politics here at all. Blairite what a joke
An excellent watch - fascinating to see the two leading female legal brains from each side of the pond come together for a good-humoured discussion like this
It just reveals your colonial mindset. The brits may have left america and other countries that they ruled but in the minds of many such as you they have you shackled under their chains.. sorry, but it's true.
"Beating children" v "Hunting with dogs": **National** Society Prevention Cruelty to Children v **Royal** Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Children
I find the idea that Americans see their SC justices in terms of Republican/Democrat to be bewildering. I've no idea about the politics of our law lords, if indeed they have any. Surely they strive to be as neutral and as objective as possible?
Just a matter of time. I believe you now have a much stronger public identification of judges as Remain or Leave than even as party affiliated ... after the "Prorogation Decision"? Next stop - very public review of appointments ... I'd say very soon.
@@majesticprimate 3 years later and it hasn't happened. The British judges even stopped the government progaging (suspending) parliament and ruled their actions "unlawfull". Our judges remain unbiased and above politics, their political feelings remain their own. On the other hand currently in the USA judges are making rulings that have no legal standing and are purely political in nature. Justice Clarence Thomas is even able to make rulings on cases which have deep implications for his wife.
Can NHS/GMC take actions against doctors who suffered PTSD as a result in victimization ? Can any firm consider the doctor as impaired without treatment if him? Who can anyone or Firms justify dismissal for financial problems;who dare to say it is cheaper to replace Doctors with new one leaving victims without any compensation which match the damages(loss career;loss health & loss income-6 years to be retired)?😭I am going to HR soon
+Nick Humphrey Why? It seems like Justice Ginsburg is confused as to how there could be a court where judges aren't able to write the law. Small wonder
That Baroness must, then, be from Richmond in North Yorkshire. It`s within pissing distance of my front door - and is, as she says, a rather attractive place.
@thegoonist Because we've not had the best track record with being able to maintain a peaceful and functional legislature. We had our Parliament from 1921 to 1972 which was dissolved and then abolished in 1973 amid violence and terrorism-related military operations; we had our first Assembly from 1973 to 1974, the second from 1982 to 1986, the third from 1998 to 2000 and the fourth from 2001-2007 with sporadic suspensions. All these resulted from political discord relating to the Troubles.
Yes, they sat as the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. Sadly, perhaps, most commonwealth countries have chosen to establish their own Final Courts of Appeal and no longer send cases to the Privy Council. Instead, a member of the Supreme Court of England and Wales is invited to sit on the bench in important cases in, for example, NZ, Oz or HK. From memory, it's only the small Commonwealth countries who still retain appeal to the PC, eg Jamaica.
11:32 min ... 17:34 min ... 45:36 min ... 46:18 min ... 47:27 min ... "Belmarsh decision" 48:30 min ... "Severity of the house arrest ... most severe order the government had made was 18 hours inside your house ..." 50:19 min ... "by a majority of three to two, we say 18 hours is too much."
is it that there's been so much polarisation & conflict in the past, a legislature where both sides can debate & make laws together might be difficult to acheev? touching wood = what i hope for.
Between 2002 and 2007 (so not very long before this talk) the Assembly had been suspended due to the Unionists and Republicans not being able to form an Executive together -- this happened again between 2017 and 2020. During these times Northern Ireland had direct rule from the Parliament at Westminster.
Justice Ginsburg specialised in womans rights, a subject which is very prevalent today. In a society which has promoted human rights so vigorously, if we still need specific gender rights, it shows equality is failing.
PERHAPS IF PEOPLE TOOK MORE TIME TO SEE IF THINGS AE UP TO DATE AND THAT THINGS ARE RUN MORE EFFECYIVELY IF ALL WHO ARE APPOINTED TAKE THERE JOB SERCIOUSLEY A REVIEW ALL BASES COVERED. ITS NOT WOMEN ITS NOT AWARE OH WELL ATTITUDE........
why don't you all start at making it compulsory for all persons involved in court cases to show identity proof as on the 9th march 2018 an imposter posed as the head of the UK Government's Head of Legal Department,&he's yet to be charged!
You're a lying cunt, as a supreme court justice or any judge for that matter can issue orders on legal matters that have never been presented in court. She did however publicly make comments regarding women and how they are treated in the U.K courts. It is well known that crimes committed by women are often downgraded or changed by the courts, as women are almost always likely to be mothers of children and the sole caregiver, it is not in the nature of a court to send sole caregivers to jail. Unless the judge decides it. Otherwise it will likely cause the destruction of the family life, creating more legal issues like rehousing for the children/dependencies etc. Also in cases involving custody of children , women are more likely to be given charge over men. Please stop spreading misinformation online, you only expose yourself as a liar.
You can emulate them all you want if HELL is your goal; many in hell said; "Jesus save me, I believe in YOU now. Christ said, 'It's Late, Too Late, Cause Everybody In Hell Is A Believer." (Angelica Zambrano, 23hours Heaven&Hell) You tube
Britian- tradition for tradition's sake- it's worked in the past why change attitude. But so unefficient. I prefer the american system- tradition yes, but not at the price of efficiency as well.
Hearing all this fuedal crap like :"baroness", "lords", "my lady" etc I can fully see why the USA decided to become a republic!! Lets hope Canada and Australia follow the US's great example.
+Stephen Tymcio Titles may be an archaic relic but they are our history and no longer symbolise what they once did in terms of repressive democracy. And what I think Arrun Harker meant; my guess is that he also finds it incredibly distasteful when the average American attempts to prop up their democracy as the 'bee's knees' when in reality, their representatives are the most deluded individuals that effectively bought their seats.
The US is an elective Monarchy, only they are sneaky about it. All this nonsense about a "Republic" is meaningless: the US President is infinitely more despotic and open to corrupt SUPERPAC abuse, vested interests (or at least has the potential to be) than any Constitutional Monarchy, anywhere.
I met Baroness Hale at a lecture last year In London. She's incredibly smart, and personable, and lovely.
I read this comment after 9 years but she is still admired to this day. Amazing.
Holy crap, I'm so glad these two got to collab!
Lady Hale is an incredibly intelligent woman and an absolute pleasure to talk to.
Yes, but at times she does appear somewhat scatty...
@@jesusislord1387what an appalling thing to say. Get of your brain and permit it some oxygen.
@@jeanhawken4482 Oh dear - doesn't Hale attract some witchy gnome types with funny ideas about body parts. Not a good sign matters about her are trustworthy.
@@jesusislord1387 It may be possible to go a great deal further concerning the distance between her reputed level and knowledge and what it really is!
A lot of people do not get the first expression you've given about her at all but the opposite.
Baroness Hale was elevated to the position of Deputy President of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom in July 2013, making her the most senior female in the UK judiciary. Very nice woman, and surprisingly easy to talk to for someone of her position.
Dan Joseph She’s now the President!
I met Justice Hale just before she became a Law Lord - she was humble, human and personable
A great judge and person
@@JupiterThunder No doubt you are a yank. UK does not link political beliefs to our Judges - our Judges are politically un-biased - do your homework and stop posting tripe. In the USA - the rulings of judges have little regard because they have already allied themselves to one of the two parties. It is truly a flawed judicial system. Cast your eye across the pond America - and learn how to do it properly.
@@JupiterThunder An indigenous Brit? That sounds painful, I am sure you can get a cream for that.
Recent Supreme Court judgement in the proroging of Parliament, in the country, demonstrates the independence of the judiciary.
The Supreme Court is made up of the highest intellectually qualified lawyers: they succeed as barristers, become QCs and then work their way through the court system to arrive at the Supreme Court.
They do not get there by pulling votes from punters.
They are appointed by virtue of their excellence as barristers and lawyers.
Lord Justice Hale came to the supreme Court by way of academia.
Please tell us what the structural change Tony Blair introduced to render the justice system in adequate?
In point of fact I’ve just bought Tony Blair‘s biography. I consider him to be one of the greatest prime minister’s this country has ever had.
@@JupiterThunder Utter rubbish. The UK judiciary is free of political bias.
They are chosen for their intellectual progress and understanding, judgement, and learning of the law. No politics here at all.
Blairite what a joke
Thanks for posting this! I've enjoyed geeking out to it. What a fabulous duo!
An excellent watch - fascinating to see the two leading female legal brains from each side of the pond come together for a good-humoured discussion like this
I just adore Lady Hale, so interesting
@Where's Walshy what a knob
Absolutely enthralling discussion, thank you.
A superb piece, thank you so very much for posting it.
British English sounds so much better than American English. Sorry, but it's true.
I should think that what you surmise would almost entirely depend upon whom is doing the speaking.
It just reveals your colonial mindset. The brits may have left america and other countries that they ruled but in the minds of many such as you they have you shackled under their chains.. sorry, but it's true.
@@Halum11 you still have the shackles in your mind
God save the Queen
God Bless Great Britain
Just been reminded the "sound" of
"…british english…"
has several variants - reading it may be unified.
Just been reminded the "sound" of
"…british english…"
has several variants - it's grammar & spelling may be unified❕
British humour is second to none. and Gins baby is pretty cute too
Adieu RBG. Happy retirement Baroness Hale.
Starts around 08:30
Thought this would be very dull but it really is very interesting and amusing.
"Beating children"
v
"Hunting with dogs":
**National** Society Prevention Cruelty to Children
v
**Royal** Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Children
I find the idea that Americans see their SC justices in terms of Republican/Democrat to be bewildering. I've no idea about the politics of our law lords, if indeed they have any. Surely they strive to be as neutral and as objective as possible?
Knappa22 UK Supreme Court justices must be impartial and have no political affiliation.
Just a matter of time. I believe you now have a much stronger public identification of judges as Remain or Leave than even as party affiliated ... after the "Prorogation Decision"? Next stop - very public review of appointments ... I'd say very soon.
@@majesticprimate wrong - UK judges remain impartial always - they are not political appointees
@@Mikados_Advark12 Yes I've seen how innocent they are, especially the Spider Lady. At least as activist as Ginsberg, if not more.
@@majesticprimate 3 years later and it hasn't happened. The British judges even stopped the government progaging (suspending) parliament and ruled their actions "unlawfull". Our judges remain unbiased and above politics, their political feelings remain their own. On the other hand currently in the USA judges are making rulings that have no legal standing and are purely political in nature. Justice Clarence Thomas is even able to make rulings on cases which have deep implications for his wife.
Thumbs up if misse Rorive made you watch that video...
Martin ;)
Can NHS/GMC take actions against doctors who suffered PTSD as a result in victimization ?
Can any firm consider the doctor as impaired without treatment if him?
Who can anyone or Firms justify dismissal for financial problems;who dare to say it is cheaper to replace Doctors with new one leaving victims without any compensation which match the damages(loss career;loss health & loss income-6 years to be retired)?😭I am going to HR soon
this is brilliant :)
+Nick Humphrey Why? It seems like Justice Ginsburg is confused as to how there could be a court where judges aren't able to write the law. Small wonder
That Baroness must, then, be from Richmond in North Yorkshire. It`s within pissing distance of my front door - and is, as she says, a rather attractive place.
Steve DL She could of been born in Richmond Surrey her voice sounds more like that area, I,m only speculating.
Sorry I got it wrong your right the Baroness is from North Yorkshire.
delightful video
Rip Ruth
word
@Where's Walshy
No one gives a stuff - jog on Jim
Not Richmond London???
@thegoonist Because we've not had the best track record with being able to maintain a peaceful and functional legislature. We had our Parliament from 1921 to 1972 which was dissolved and then abolished in 1973 amid violence and terrorism-related military operations; we had our first Assembly from 1973 to 1974, the second from 1982 to 1986, the third from 1998 to 2000 and the fourth from 2001-2007 with sporadic suspensions. All these resulted from political discord relating to the Troubles.
The Law Lords used to be the final court of appeal for Commonwealth countries,not sure that this is still so.
Yes, they sat as the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. Sadly, perhaps, most commonwealth countries have chosen to establish their own Final Courts of Appeal and no longer send cases to the Privy Council. Instead, a member of the Supreme Court of England and Wales is invited to sit on the bench in important cases in, for example, NZ, Oz or HK. From memory, it's only the small Commonwealth countries who still retain appeal to the PC, eg Jamaica.
Why is Lord of Appeal in Ordinary in inverted commas?!
11:32 min ...
17:34 min ...
45:36 min ...
46:18 min ...
47:27 min ... "Belmarsh decision"
48:30 min ... "Severity of the house arrest ... most severe order the government had made was 18 hours inside your house ..."
50:19 min ... "by a majority of three to two, we say 18 hours is too much."
anyone know why she said touch wood that there was a devolved legislature in N.ireland?
is it that there's been so much polarisation & conflict in the past, a legislature where both sides can debate & make laws together might be difficult to acheev? touching wood = what i hope for.
Between 2002 and 2007 (so not very long before this talk) the Assembly had been suspended due to the Unionists and Republicans not being able to form an Executive together -- this happened again between 2017 and 2020. During these times Northern Ireland had direct rule from the Parliament at Westminster.
Justice Ginsburg specialised in womans rights, a subject which is very prevalent today. In a society which has promoted human rights so vigorously, if we still need specific gender rights, it shows equality is failing.
House Arrest in 2021:
24 hours is alright❕
Mr Barack Obama team
PERHAPS IF PEOPLE TOOK MORE TIME TO SEE IF THINGS AE UP TO DATE AND THAT THINGS ARE RUN MORE EFFECYIVELY IF ALL WHO ARE APPOINTED TAKE THERE JOB SERCIOUSLEY A REVIEW ALL BASES COVERED. ITS NOT WOMEN ITS NOT AWARE OH WELL ATTITUDE........
Coesto donne gastice mio un'altra mom io tantissimo rispetto
why don't you all start at making it compulsory for all persons involved in court cases to show identity proof as on the 9th march 2018 an imposter posed as the head of the UK Government's Head of Legal Department,&he's yet to be charged!
NBC news
Still have inherited peerage in UK, really is from the Middle Ages!!
Lord Tywin
Haha
Hale is a terrible misandrist. In 2010, she ordered that women are treated more leniently in UK criminal cases than men. Absolutely inexcusable.
You're a lying cunt, as a supreme court justice or any judge for that matter can issue orders on legal matters that have never been presented in court. She did however publicly make comments regarding women and how they are treated in the U.K courts. It is well known that crimes committed by women are often downgraded or changed by the courts, as women are almost always likely to be mothers of children and the sole caregiver, it is not in the nature of a court to send sole caregivers to jail. Unless the judge decides it. Otherwise it will likely cause the destruction of the family life, creating more legal issues like rehousing for the children/dependencies etc. Also in cases involving custody of children , women are more likely to be given charge over men. Please stop spreading misinformation online, you only expose yourself as a liar.
You can emulate them all you want if HELL is your goal; many in hell said; "Jesus save me, I believe in YOU now. Christ said, 'It's Late, Too Late, Cause Everybody In Hell Is A Believer." (Angelica Zambrano, 23hours Heaven&Hell) You tube
Britian- tradition for tradition's sake- it's worked in the past why change attitude. But so unefficient. I prefer the american system- tradition yes, but not at the price of efficiency as well.
Hearing all this fuedal crap like :"baroness", "lords", "my lady" etc I can fully see why the USA decided to become a republic!! Lets hope Canada and Australia follow the US's great example.
+Arrun Harker Worst type of person why? For decrying the nobility? Or because she advocates a different political system than yourself?
+Stephen Tymcio Titles may be an archaic relic but they are our history and no longer symbolise what they once did in terms of repressive democracy. And what I think Arrun Harker meant; my guess is that he also finds it incredibly distasteful when the average American attempts to prop up their democracy as the 'bee's knees' when in reality, their representatives are the most deluded individuals that effectively bought their seats.
1)there is no real political movement in Canada for a republic- I'm speaking as a Canadian.
The US is an elective Monarchy, only they are sneaky about it. All this nonsense about a "Republic" is meaningless: the US President is infinitely more despotic and open to corrupt SUPERPAC abuse, vested interests (or at least has the potential to be) than any Constitutional Monarchy, anywhere.