Possible theory - maybe Keefe met other elves in the Forbidden Cities. Humans wouldn’t be much help to Keefe, after all, they wouldn’t understand the situation he was in. Elves on the other hand, would know exactly how to help. Maybe there is a secret group of elves living in the Forbidden Cities, and Keefe was able to find them. They could’ve helped Keefe understand the human world and might’ve been the “friends” he was referencing.
Oh yeah maybe! Because from the first book there was this man with blue eyes that apparently tried to kidnap Sophie, but she couldn’t hear his thoughts. I’ve kinda always seen it as a plot whole -like why was that added there??
OMG I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING HUGE. Since the book is on Keefe's pov, what if we finally find out what the Great Gulon Incident was? Or what if Shannon decides to be evil and we have something like Keefe start to reminisce about it but right before we find out what happened, he gets distracted or something?
@@lylab1010 Oh yeah maybe actually, it could be. Though she made it sound as though the Novella would be taking place from Keefe's pov as the great gulon incident was actually happening in the past. I guess we will have to see though lol. As long as I learn what to great gulon incident is I'm happy lol
I have a theory: what if while Keefe is in the Forbidden Series, not only does he investigate his mother and his roles in the murder of the Wrights, but what if there is a life-or-death situation which causes him to reflect on all the people he has become close with in the Lost Cities: re-evaluates his relationships with Sophie, Fitz, etc. and I think he'll come out better for it. Like maybe he really truly realizes how much Sophie matters to him, but only hides it a bit more in Stellarlune because he thinks that nothing has changed since before (and also since his empath skills aren't working). So that's sort of what made Chapter Forty Two in Stellarlune that big. I think this book will just give a huge insight on Keefe's thoughts and feelings that we only really got a glimpse of in Unlocked.
And I think that maybe he got a friend along the way that helped ease him into speaking again. Or maybe- really cute idea - he bonded with like a pet (dog, cat, etc) and he slowly became more comfortable by talking with it. That'd be so adorable and I could totally see Keefe being an animal person, what with his bonds with Wynn, Luna, and Silveny.
i think he met like, a human version of the black swan who know about elves. they would be the 'friends' he met in the lost cities who helped him survive. i also think that in the group is sophie's father, not that keefe knows that yet.
Ok, so I have a Elysian theory... At the end of Stellarlune, Elysian says: " I'm the power source you you've been looking for." The " power source" doesn't have to mean magic. Power can also leadership or control of an area/group. So what if, before the council, the elves had a royal family, and Elysian is one of them?! And Elysian was saying that she's the rightful heir of the Lost Cities who will guide the elves through darkness and afflictions? Also, what if the royal family was getting too powerful, and so they locked Elysian away and created the council...?
The first theory doesn't work because Lady Gisela orders Keefe to deliver a letter to Ethan and Eleanore Wright. So she couldn't turn Eleanore into Elysian before she was pregnant with Keefe.
Not only did I get my theory in a video (again?!) I also got a full-on shoutout?!?! Thank you do much and you'll definitely be seeing more of me in the future....
This is a wild theory but in Stellarlune, it says that Keefe was spotted in an amusement park, near a waterfall and of course London. I don’t really think he’s just exploring the world as he knows it could be very dangerous with having to move constantly to different countries with different laws. So I was wondering if he was potentially looking for something, I’m not sure whether he knew about Cyrah’s starstone or a starstone leading to Elysian Fields but it seems likely as it is imaginable for his character to be more selfless and fulfil his legacy without harming Sophie - also in his letter before he left he said “it’s better for everyone, you’ll see”. (Let’s just say it the starstone) When he doesn’t find the starstone (which is in Biana’s hairpin) he goes to London to discover more about Ethan Benedict Wright 2nd. No one come at me for the starstone thing or my bad grammar plsss Thanks
I think Keefe may find out what was in the letter his mother had him deliver to Ethan Benedict Wright 2. And he hasn't told Sophie either to protect her from what he's learned or because he's ashamed of having given the letter to Ethan Benedict Wright 2.
Theory: Bianca is a Neverseen spy. The reason I think this: Alvar mentions the Vacker Legacy to her first. That could have changed her. She is also _very_ pushy in being included. And she is a Vanisher. I’m not saying I want it to happen, but it’s possible.
Enjoying so far! I’ll be there! When you said you had a livestream tomorrow I literally jumped up and down, bc my favourite channel x my birthday is already going to be a great day! XD
This was a really cool and interesting video idea! I wish I would've seen the post to talk about some of my own notes. (And I can make it to the live stream, very excited!!)
I have been waiting for like 2 years now !!!!!!!!! And to hear that it's finally here is really like music to my ears. My theory is that everyone was referring that this time keefe was going to die ( PLEASE NO HE CANT DIE IF HE DOES I WILL STOP READING BOOKS😣😣)but I came up with a theory that we all k....... Fitz had been trying his best ever since Sophie and he broke up to be a kinder person and control his anger issues so maybe in the next book...maybe not sure but I feel as if Fitz might die...i mean it would be like an heart stopping twist to the story..... i came up with this theory because like I said before ..he was really trying his best to improve so maybe he gives up his life to save Sophie or keefe from dying.... I personally hope no one dies !!!! Because it will make it all very sad....but let's just wait for it to come out! EDIT : I DONT K AND IF ANYONE ELSE ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT BUT I JUST DONT WANT TO K...THAT KEEFE STARTED LIKING SOME OTHER GIRL WHILE HE WAS IN THE HUMAN LANDS....I MEAN THE CHANCES ARE LESS AS...WELL HE EVEN BOUGHT A GIFT FOR SOPHIE LITERALLY PROVING HE MISSED HER A LOT BUT STILLL😭😭
Idk I have a lot of mixed feelings about this book. I love Keefe and all, but lately it’s been Keefe overload. Why not more Dex? More Biana? Let’s focus on the love triangle with Dex, Biana and Tam! But it’s just more Keefe 😭 It’s okay though. I’ll still enjoy 9.5
This is probably a book 10 theory. I remember a theory of Jolie being Elysian’s embodiment but I disagree and agree. I don’t think it is Jolie’s soul and if it is it is only part. I think is it body and another soul, perhaps Neverseen’s attempt of making their own genetically altered elf. I don’t think she will be “just Jolie”,
Since Keefe has human friends what if they were some how related to Ethan Benedict wright II and his daughter and they help him figure out the truth of Ethan’s story and if his mother had a part to it.what if his daughter really is Elysian and like vespera experimented on humans what if Gisela did the same to Ethan’s daughter and Elysian was her little minion . And he meets her on the way ? I still don’t believe that Eleanor is really dead. Keefe has the same abilities as Elysian and like she and Gisela teamed up to give Keefe this crazy ability and they manipulate him using this ability to do what they want him to like make an army of humans with his commands or something like that or I could be totally wrong and Elysian is someone good that will help the black swan like it would be cool if she was like another one of the black swans experiments and she went wrong so she fled (lost control of her abilities like keefe) The possibilities are so endless but whatever happens in the book I am will be happy with ; ) Also I wanted to add what if Alden is somehow connected to the neverseen because even after alvar left they still seem to be knowing what is going on with Sophie and her crew and Alvar/someone from the never seen said there is more to the vacker legacy what if it is this (Alden always say ‘no reason to worry” what if this was to drive the kids away from his matters so they wouldn’t find out what the secret really is) and this suddenly came to me what if it’s the other way around and ALDEN IS FORKLE like I mentioned for my other option he is in a way always know key information like forkle so what if forkle’s real identity is Alden??? That would be a shocker! Plus Shannon never adds new characters as hidden identities (Rayni aria is an exception) I think it is so like shannon to do something like this!!
And guys I just realized something couldn’t Sophie just have looked at her spyball to see where Keefe was in the forbidden cities like she did with her human parents and Amy foster?????
Great video as always!! All those theories were crazy good, especially Troys, it really made sense. I think that we will definitely see Keefe traveling a lot and that eventually he chooses to lie low in London, maybe because of a connection with Ethan Benedict Wright II and his daughter, and that Keefe will learn a lot more about their story. I agree that Keefe will probably make some friends who help to support him and teach him the ways of the human world, or maybe those friends might be elves in disguise. I think that books 9.5 and 10 will both have a lot more to do with the other species and their purpose in the story but there could possibly be some elves who left the lost cities and moved to the human world as they might've noticed the corruption in elf power ahead of time, for example, the talentless status. I also think that it's possible Keefe discovered he had another ability during his time in the human world, and it might've possibly been something good that helped him to begin to start socializing again. I honestly didn't believe his time in the human world contained any shocking news, I thought it was more of an escape from the lost cities and that some unimportant things happened but if Shannon says that it is crucial, then it must be super important! I am just super excited to see Keefe in our world, it will make it seem as if he really is real and it will be cool to see him experience everything that we know :D
THE QUESTION “What was the Great Gulon Incident about again? Did Keefe mention it in the third book of Keeper . . . or has the incident not been explained yet? (Or maybe someone did explain it and I just forgot. :D )” ANSWER BY SHANNON MESSENGER “You haven't missed it. The Great Gluon Incident hasn't been explained in the books. I'm planning to someday write a *short story* from *Keefe's perspective* so you guys get to watch it play out. It's just a matter of when I'll have time to write that.” MY THEORY: We might hear about this in Unraveled!!!!!! It is a *short story* from *Keefe’s perspective* and it might actually reveal what the great gulon incident is… 😆😄
Possible theory - maybe Keefe met other elves in the Forbidden Cities. Humans wouldn’t be much help to Keefe, after all, they wouldn’t understand the situation he was in. Elves on the other hand, would know exactly how to help. Maybe there is a secret group of elves living in the Forbidden Cities, and Keefe was able to find them. They could’ve helped Keefe understand the human world and might’ve been the “friends” he was referencing.
I was thinking the same thing! Maybe there is another Black Swan type group out there 👀 thanks for commenting!
Oh yeah maybe! Because from the first book there was this man with blue eyes that apparently tried to kidnap Sophie, but she couldn’t hear his thoughts. I’ve kinda always seen it as a plot whole -like why was that added there??
@that.one.empath The man who tried to kidnap Sophie near the start was Gethen from the Neverseen.
@@TaliesintheBard-wd2szthanks for reminding me; I forgot lol 😂
I’m hoping to see through his mind when he is “numb”. I want to get to experience it with him and I think that would be super cool
OMG I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING HUGE. Since the book is on Keefe's pov, what if we finally find out what the Great Gulon Incident was? Or what if Shannon decides to be evil and we have something like Keefe start to reminisce about it but right before we find out what happened, he gets distracted or something?
I believe Shannon said that after she's done writing the series there will be a novella of the great Gulon incident from Keefe's pov!
YESSSS I wanna know so bad but you’re right she’s evil so probably the second one haha. Thanks for your comment!
@@lailahrahman8544yes this could technically be the novella she was talking about
@@lylab1010 Oh yeah maybe actually, it could be. Though she made it sound as though the Novella would be taking place from Keefe's pov as the great gulon incident was actually happening in the past. I guess we will have to see though lol. As long as I learn what to great gulon incident is I'm happy lol
I have a theory: what if while Keefe is in the Forbidden Series, not only does he investigate his mother and his roles in the murder of the Wrights, but what if there is a life-or-death situation which causes him to reflect on all the people he has become close with in the Lost Cities: re-evaluates his relationships with Sophie, Fitz, etc. and I think he'll come out better for it. Like maybe he really truly realizes how much Sophie matters to him, but only hides it a bit more in Stellarlune because he thinks that nothing has changed since before (and also since his empath skills aren't working). So that's sort of what made Chapter Forty Two in Stellarlune that big. I think this book will just give a huge insight on Keefe's thoughts and feelings that we only really got a glimpse of in Unlocked.
And I think that maybe he got a friend along the way that helped ease him into speaking again. Or maybe- really cute idea - he bonded with like a pet (dog, cat, etc) and he slowly became more comfortable by talking with it. That'd be so adorable and I could totally see Keefe being an animal person, what with his bonds with Wynn, Luna, and Silveny.
i think he met like, a human version of the black swan who know about elves. they would be the 'friends' he met in the lost cities who helped him survive. i also think that in the group is sophie's father, not that keefe knows that yet.
okayyy I can see this happening! That would be SO cool!!!! 🤩
@@kotlcfanbase :D
Ok, so I have a Elysian theory...
At the end of Stellarlune, Elysian says: " I'm the power source you you've been looking for."
The " power source" doesn't have to mean magic. Power can also leadership or control of an area/group.
So what if, before the council, the elves had a royal family, and Elysian is one of them?! And Elysian was saying that she's the rightful heir of the Lost Cities who will guide the elves through darkness and afflictions?
Also, what if the royal family was getting too powerful, and so they locked Elysian away and created the council...?
I preordered this book almost two weeks ago, and I’m so excited!!
Yeah super exciting because it’s just so new and having a whole book on Keefe is going to be super cool! Hope you enjoy the theories :)
Same
Me too! I got the Barnes and Noble special edition!
@@Glimmerheart I’m so excited for the exclusive!!
The first theory doesn't work because Lady Gisela orders Keefe to deliver a letter to Ethan and Eleanore Wright. So she couldn't turn Eleanore into Elysian before she was pregnant with Keefe.
Yeah that makes sense, thanks for sharing that!
Not only did I get my theory in a video (again?!) I also got a full-on shoutout?!?! Thank you do much and you'll definitely be seeing more of me in the future....
All of us on this channel really do appreciate your engagement in our community so it's the least we could do! Have a fantastic week! :)
This is a wild theory but in Stellarlune, it says that Keefe was spotted in an amusement park, near a waterfall and of course London. I don’t really think he’s just exploring the world as he knows it could be very dangerous with having to move constantly to different countries with different laws. So I was wondering if he was potentially looking for something, I’m not sure whether he knew about Cyrah’s starstone or a starstone leading to Elysian Fields but it seems likely as it is imaginable for his character to be more selfless and fulfil his legacy without harming Sophie - also in his letter before he left he said “it’s better for everyone, you’ll see”. (Let’s just say it the starstone) When he doesn’t find the starstone (which is in Biana’s hairpin) he goes to London to discover more about Ethan Benedict Wright 2nd.
No one come at me for the starstone thing or my bad grammar plsss
Thanks
I think Keefe may find out what was in the letter his mother had him deliver to Ethan Benedict Wright 2. And he hasn't told Sophie either to protect her from what he's learned or because he's ashamed of having given the letter to Ethan Benedict Wright 2.
Good theory! I think that’s totally happening!
Theory: Bianca is a Neverseen spy. The reason I think this: Alvar mentions the Vacker Legacy to her first. That could have changed her. She is also _very_ pushy in being included. And she is a Vanisher. I’m not saying I want it to happen, but it’s possible.
I love your videos and I’m so happy and excited for 9.5 thank you for new videos!
Of course, we love to talk about Kotlc especially when there is new news! We hope to see you on the livestream tomorrow!
Been waiting for this video all day! Going to watch now!
Hope you enjoy the video, a lot of good theories in there! Hope to see you on the live tomorrow as well!
Enjoying so far! I’ll be there! When you said you had a livestream tomorrow I literally jumped up and down, bc my favourite channel x my birthday is already going to be a great day! XD
I'm so excited for 9.5!!!! These were great theories! Love your vids! :D
Thanks glad you enjoyed the theories! We hope to see you on the livestream tomorrow!
I CANT WAIT TO READ IT!!! Also I love Troy’s theory.
Yeah Troy really went deep into his knowledge on that one! Definitely can’t wait till November!
@@kotlcfanbase I screamed when I heard about the new book 😅
@@QueenofNerdsssstoppp I went so unhinged
I love your videos! Those Therories were great
Thanks soooo much! I’m so happy you enjoy our videos!!! Have a great weekend! 🫶
This was a really cool and interesting video idea! I wish I would've seen the post to talk about some of my own notes. (And I can make it to the live stream, very excited!!)
Thank you sooooo much! Glad you enjoyed the video! Cant wait to see you tomorrow during the livestream 🫶
No problem! :)@@kotlcfanbase
I have been waiting for like 2 years now !!!!!!!!! And to hear that it's finally here is really like music to my ears. My theory is that everyone was referring that this time keefe was going to die ( PLEASE NO HE CANT DIE IF HE DOES I WILL STOP READING BOOKS😣😣)but I came up with a theory that we all k....... Fitz had been trying his best ever since Sophie and he broke up to be a kinder person and control his anger issues so maybe in the next book...maybe not sure but I feel as if Fitz might die...i mean it would be like an heart stopping twist to the story..... i came up with this theory because like I said before ..he was really trying his best to improve so maybe he gives up his life to save Sophie or keefe from dying....
I personally hope no one dies !!!! Because it will make it all very sad....but let's just wait for it to come out!
EDIT : I DONT K AND IF ANYONE ELSE ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT BUT I JUST DONT WANT TO K...THAT KEEFE STARTED LIKING SOME OTHER GIRL WHILE HE WAS IN THE HUMAN LANDS....I MEAN THE CHANCES ARE LESS AS...WELL HE EVEN BOUGHT A GIFT FOR SOPHIE LITERALLY PROVING HE MISSED HER A LOT BUT STILLL😭😭
I already messages in the community post but u didn't see it 😣😣 hoping to get pinned 🤞🤞
I hope no one dies 🥲 but if it has to happen ID rather it be anyone EXCEPT Keefe lol
Idk I have a lot of mixed feelings about this book. I love Keefe and all, but lately it’s been Keefe overload. Why not more Dex? More Biana? Let’s focus on the love triangle with Dex, Biana and Tam! But it’s just more Keefe 😭 It’s okay though. I’ll still enjoy 9.5
I ordered it and am so excited
ME TOOOOO! This book is gonna be so amazing! Thanks for watching friend!
Im so excited 🎉❤
Yep, finally some news to get excited about! Hope you enjoyed the theories and also hope to see you on the livestream tomorrow!
I'll try 😉
All of them are awesome theories
Glad you liked them Lauren!
First comment!! Im so excited for 9.5 !
Thanks so much for getting here so early! Congrats on getting first! Hope you enjoy :)
Theory: Keefe meets Elysian in the Forbidden Cities. Feel free to expand this theory below.
Oooh this could be such an interesting idea 👀👀👀 thanks for sharing!!
This is probably a book 10 theory. I remember a theory of Jolie being Elysian’s embodiment but I disagree and agree. I don’t think it is Jolie’s soul and if it is it is only part. I think is it body and another soul, perhaps Neverseen’s attempt of making their own genetically altered elf. I don’t think she will be “just Jolie”,
omg ur theories are accurate tho
I knowwwww it makes me nervous to see what actually happens!!!
The Livestream is on in late evening for me ahhhhhh 😮
ahh no! hope you can make at least some of it :)
First theory and my mind was blown 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
These theories are so wild! It makes me so excited to read the new book. Thanks for watching!
I need The book to come out already!!!!!!
I know right!!!
Since Keefe has human friends what if they were some how related to Ethan Benedict wright II and his daughter and they help him figure out the truth of Ethan’s story and if his mother had a part to it.what if his daughter really is Elysian and like vespera experimented on humans what if Gisela did the same to Ethan’s daughter and Elysian was her little minion . And he meets her on the way ? I still don’t believe that Eleanor is really dead.
Keefe has the same abilities as Elysian and like she and Gisela teamed up to give Keefe this crazy ability and they manipulate him using this ability to do what they want him to like make an army of humans with his commands or something like that or I could be totally wrong and Elysian is someone good that will help the black swan like it would be cool if she was like another one of the black swans experiments and she went wrong so she fled (lost control of her abilities like keefe)
The possibilities are so endless but whatever happens in the book I am will be happy with ; )
Also I wanted to add what if Alden is somehow connected to the neverseen because even after alvar left they still seem to be knowing what is going on with Sophie and her crew and Alvar/someone from the never seen said there is more to the vacker legacy what if it is this (Alden always say ‘no reason to worry” what if this was to drive the kids away from his matters so they wouldn’t find out what the secret really is) and this suddenly came to me what if it’s the other way around and ALDEN IS FORKLE like I mentioned for my other option he is in a way always know key information like forkle so what if forkle’s real identity is Alden??? That would be a shocker! Plus Shannon never adds new characters as hidden identities (Rayni aria is an exception) I think it is so like shannon to do something like this!!
And guys I just realized something couldn’t Sophie just have looked at her spyball to see where Keefe was in the forbidden cities like she did with her human parents and Amy foster?????
Great video as always!! All those theories were crazy good, especially Troys, it really made sense. I think that we will definitely see Keefe traveling a lot and that eventually he chooses to lie low in London, maybe because of a connection with Ethan Benedict Wright II and his daughter, and that Keefe will learn a lot more about their story. I agree that Keefe will probably make some friends who help to support him and teach him the ways of the human world, or maybe those friends might be elves in disguise. I think that books 9.5 and 10 will both have a lot more to do with the other species and their purpose in the story but there could possibly be some elves who left the lost cities and moved to the human world as they might've noticed the corruption in elf power ahead of time, for example, the talentless status. I also think that it's possible Keefe discovered he had another ability during his time in the human world, and it might've possibly been something good that helped him to begin to start socializing again. I honestly didn't believe his time in the human world contained any shocking news, I thought it was more of an escape from the lost cities and that some unimportant things happened but if Shannon says that it is crucial, then it must be super important! I am just super excited to see Keefe in our world, it will make it seem as if he really is real and it will be cool to see him experience everything that we know :D
also, i think keefe met humans during his time there and goes to school there. :)
ooooh thats so interesting if he goes to human school!! thanks for sharing friend ◡̈
I just finished legacy 😯
Nice your getting through those books, almost caught up!
I only started the series in January 😅
I know this doesn't go with the video at all...but u guys should do another fan art competition like when u did it a few years ago
We are planning one! 👍
one thing im confused about is Shannon says its about 35 or something chapters, which is kinda short for Kotlc...
hey addy! she did not said it is about 35 chapters, she says it takes place DURING the first 35 chapters of Stellarlune. hope this helps!
Oh thank you! Totally does! This just got me more excited!@@kotlcfanbase
THE QUESTION
“What was the Great Gulon Incident about again? Did Keefe mention it in the third book of Keeper . . . or has the incident not been explained yet? (Or maybe someone did explain it and I just forgot. :D )”
ANSWER BY SHANNON MESSENGER
“You haven't missed it. The Great Gluon Incident hasn't been explained in the books. I'm planning to someday write a *short story* from *Keefe's perspective* so you guys get to watch it play out. It's just a matter of when I'll have time to write that.”
MY THEORY: We might hear about this in Unraveled!!!!!! It is a *short story* from *Keefe’s perspective* and it might actually reveal what the great gulon incident is… 😆😄
It's so strange because we still don't know who is Sophie's father . What do you say ? 🤔
i think her dad is the doctor sorry i can’t remember his name 😢
Elwin
oooh I really hope we find out! maybe it's related to the Ethan Benedict Wright storyline 👀👀👀
the amount of times sophie will be mentioned in 9.5
A LOT
how can i join the livestream
its gonna be on our RUclips channel so just log in to your RUclips app and it should be on your subscription feed if you have subscribed to us
If u liked my elysian theory put it in a video😊
8th
Hey thanks for coming early and commenting! Hope you enjoy the theories and also hope to see you on the livestream tomorrow!
THIRD 🥉😊
Third place, thanks for coming early to the video and commenting! Enjoy the theories :)
Omg hi