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Eso se dice cuando lo comparan con ya saben quien. Aún así es cierto que ronaldo no es playmaker. Osea si puede que tenga jugadas pero no cumple esa función,ya que es más goleador de area que otra cosa.
Exacto. Por eso nunca me gustaron las comparaciones entre él y Messi, son muy diferentes y bien podrían jugar juntos. Ojalá aunque sea una temporada nos conceda a los fans ese capricho, 😝
That doesn't make sense. The reason why Messi is considered a playmaker is because of his passing and plays. This is what Ronaldo is doing in the video. Without Messi's passes, he won't be called a playmaker. You don't have to play like Messi to be considered a playmaker. Yes, Messi creates more chances and makes more plays than Ronaldo, but saying Ronaldo is not a playmaker at all is just ignorant, especially when Ronaldo played as a winger for most of his career. Wingers are playmakers, midfielders are playmakers, the new generation of full-backs are also playmakers. This why Messi fans are insufferable. Ronaldo doesn't have to play like Messi to be a playmaker.
@@batmanepicclips maradona and messi perform more functions than ronaldo and were playmakers all their lives. Ronaldo always waits in the area to score the goal, Messi and Maradona don't.
Ronaldo converted into a centre forward, Maradona and Messi didn't. Ronaldo played as a winger, in fact, he's the best winger of all time. Wingers are playmakers. Even IFFHS, ranked Ronaldo as a playmaker. So yes, Ronaldo was a playmaker, but now he's a centre forward. Please, learn the difference.
Giving the last pass to goal is a virtue of a playmaker, but it doesn't necessarily makes you a playmaker. A playmaker is someone who controls the flow the team's play, often being involved in offensive and defensive passing moves that lead to goals. The playmaker also helps to bring the ball out from the back on their own half of the field, not in counterattack contexts (where Ronaldo were frequently involved), but in situations where the opposing team is positioned and pressing in your half of the field. Cristiano has many virtues as a player beyond goals and dribbles; you could value that in him instead of wanting him to be exactly like Messi. They are different, let's enjoy what they both have to offer in their own ways. Chill✌
This is going to make sense if you are talking about players like Lewa, Zlatan, Suarez, Benzema, Haaland or even Cavani. Cristiano Ronaldo played as a winger for most of his career before he converted into a center forward. A playmaker is someone who controls the flow of the game. True, but if you watch football match regularly, you know that only one player cannot control the flow of a game. This depends on your formation, but you need several players in your team to be able to control the flow of your game. In terms of attacking football, you need a defensive, central, attacking midfielders, plus left and right wingers and full-backs to control the flow of a game, playing different roles as playmakers, and that makes all of them playmakers. Hazard, Neymar, Ribery, Robben, Mo Salah, Mane, Sane, Son, Mbappe, Saka, Martineli, Bale are all wingers and playmakers. They use their pace and dribbling skills to play their playmaking roles to the best of their abilities. So saying Ronaldo is not a playmaker is like saying all wingers are playmakers. Wingers can also be goalscorers too, like Mo Salah, Mane, Son, Mbappe, and that doesn't mean they're not playmakers. Messi plays more like an attacking midfielder, while Ronaldo is more like a winger in his prime. Now he's a centre forward who main goal is to score goals. This is why I believe Ronaldo can play with Messi, because the way they play the game is different right now and even in their prime. So, yes, Ronaldo was a playmaker when he played as a winger. He didn't win any playmaker awards just like most playmakers have not won the award. Only eight players have won the award by the way, and four of them have won it more than once. No winger has won it, but most top wingers have been ranked among the top 20 best playmakers every year, including Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo was ranked in the top 10 ten best playmakers from 2007-2012. He was ranked 12th best playmakers between 2010-2019, even though he played as a centre forward from 2016-2018. So anyone who says Cristiano Ronaldo is not a playmaker has no football knowledge whatsoever.
@batmanepicclips Having virtues of playmaker doesn't necessarily makes you a playmaker, a goalkeeper is involved in the flow of the team play but a goalkeeper is not a playmaker, the fact that you can do something you're not supposed to in the pitch doesn't make you a specialist on that role, Ronaldo has shown virtues of a playmaker, that doesn't mean he is a playmaker or he is the best suited for that task, Rogerio Ceni scored more than 60 goals in his carrer despite being a goalkeeper, that doesn't make him a goalscorer or the best suited for that matter, Messi has shown some defensive skills during his carrer but that doesn't mean he was a defender or the best suited for that task, Koeman has more than 100 assists in his carrer which is a playmaker virtue, that doesn't make him a playmaker or the best suited for that task, Harry Kane played once as a goalkeeper for Tottenham that doesn't make his a goalkeeper or the best suited for that task, saying that every player has a different role as a playmaker is like saying everybody is a playmaker which devaluates the concept of playmaker, what is more accurate and true that everybody that plays football understands and have some degree of skills in a position or role he is not quote on quote "made for" cause if anyone plays football for a significant amount of time he will inevitably develope some degree of skills required in any position and or role of football, take Busquets for example, he was a striker, Guardiola turned him into a pivot or defensive midfielder if you like, and he became arguably the best defensive midfielder in history and I could make a video of Ronaldo defensive skills (Which he has ) and claim Roanldo was a defender the same way I could make a video of Busquets goals through his carrer and claim he was a badass goalscorer which wouldn't mean they were , would just mean their have some amount of skills for roles they were not supposed to play, Do you get my point? (But hey, for whoever wants to say Ronaldo was a playmaker, please be my guest the world is not gonna fall apart )
@@meritumkratosx you are going round in circles. Ronaldo doesn't have the virtues of a playmaker. He was a playmaker as a winger. All top wingers are playmakers. If you have two wingers who are not playmakers, you will be frustrated with them. Wingers make things happen in games, they dribble, they cross the ball into the box, they pass the ball inwards for a teammate to shoot, they set up full-backs for crosses, they switch play, they carry the ball for along the flanks etc. So wingers control the flow of the game, which Ronaldo did as a winger for over ten years. Ronaldo didn't even start scoring until 2006/07 season at Man Utd. Saying Ronaldo only has a virtue of a playmaker is like saying he only has virtue of a winger. If it's true Ronaldo was never a playmaker, then why did people notice and comment he doesn't involve himself in games in his last two seasons in Real Madrid? That can never happen to players like Haaland even though he's a world class goal scorer. It was not like Ronaldo was not scoring in his last two seasons, but if you look at how his playing style, it has more semblance with a classic center forward's game than a winger. This was why people noticed his change in his playing style. I will like you to go and see videos of how Ronaldo played in his last season in Real Madrid and compare it to his first season in Juventus when he played out wide. Or watch Ronaldo videos from 2008 Man Utd and compare it with Ronaldo in 2022 Man Utd. There's a huge difference with those two style of play, and you find the that playmaking is the reason for it. And lastly, it's interesting you failed to acknowledge the fact that Ronaldo has been recognised in the past as a playmaker by football specialists, namely the IFFHS, the same organisation that recognise Messi as the best playmaker in the 21st century. Even this same organisation, recognise Ronaldo and many other playmakers over the years. Like I said, from 2007-2012, Ronaldo was consistently ranked as one of the top 10 best playmakers in the world. His highest ranking came in 2008, the same year he won the European golden boot. The same organisation ranked him 12th among the top 20 best playmakers in the 2010-2019 decade, even though he played as a centre forward for two years in that decade. There's absolutely no argument that can hold up the conception that Ronaldo was never a playmaker. It's just ridiculous on all fronts.
@@batmanepicclips As I said before, all players on a team have required skills for roles that aren't their own. If you've played football for several years, even as an amateur, you end up developing defensive, playmaking, and scoring abilities. However, that doesn't make you a perfect "all-around player." There have been great playmakers who started as wingers and were later converted to Number 10 , players who move freely across the field and assist their team where needed, like Hazard, Neymar, Messi, Iniesta, and Maradona. But claiming that all wingers are playmakers is absurd for both wingers and playmakers. Players like Robben and Ribery were wingers throughout their careers, with playmaking traits but never ceased to be pure classic wingers, the attacking winger, who operates along the touchline, (which has become rarer as many are being converted to different roles and or positions). Secondly I don't consider IFFHS as the basis for the debate,I rely more on my own knowledge and experience playing and watching football. However, if you insist, here's a IFFHS list of winners of the Best Playmaker award since it was created: 2006 - Zinedine Zidane 2007 - Kaká 2008 - Xavi 2009 - Xavi 2010 - Xavi 2011 - Xavi 2012 - Andrés Iniesta 2013 - Andrés Iniesta 2014 - Toni Kroos 2015 - Lionel Messi 2016 - Lionel Messi 2017 - Lionel Messi 2018 - Luka Modrić 2019 - Lionel Messi 2020 - Kevin De Bruyne 2021 - Kevin De Bruyne 2022 - Lionel Messi Source: www.google.com/amp/s/ng.opera.news/ng/en/sports/amp/48d0bb4524fb3f0e6d402cac8a984f92 OR. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_Football_History_%26_Statistics (check the playmakers award window) As you can see, none of the winners were wingers by the time they received the award. I understand you're a fan of Cristiano, (And I personally became a fan of this marvelous sport because of him) However my personal liking for him doesn't prevent me from being objective in a debate. As a matter of fact Cristiano doesn't even make to the top 10 playmakers list according to blody IFFHS: 1.Lionel MESSI 2.Andres INIESTA 3.Kevin DE BRUYNE 4.Luka MODRIC 5.XAVI 6.Toni KROOS 7.Mezut OZIL 8.Andrea PIRLO 9.Eden HAZARD 10.NEYMAR (Source: iffhs.com/posts/2595 ) I don't like relying on IFFHS since those awards are decided by players, coaches, and journalists. Players and coaches use the criteria I metioned before KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE while journalists might vote based on their journal preference or narrative, but as you can see even the IFFHS that you insisted so much on, contradicts your argument of "All wingers are playmakers". And by the way saying things like "you are going round in circles" or "anyone who says Cristiano Ronaldo is not a playmaker has no football knowledge whatsoever" as If "anyone one who doesn't agree with me has no fooball knowledge" I mean what a hell of a thing to say in a debate, It really emphasizes your neutrality and objectiveness.
@@meritumkratosx but you are still going around in circles, and that's the truth. For instance, I never said IFFHS ranks Ronaldo in the top 10 best playmakers, I said he was ranked 12th best playmaker between 2010-2019 by the IFFHS, so explain to me why a player who is not a playmaker is on the list of top playmakers in the last decade. And it was very convenient of you to try to disregard the IFFHS because it doesn't suit your argument, so much for your unbiased opinion. Also I never said all wingers are playmakers. I said all TOP wingers are playmakers, including Robben and Ribery. Playmaking is a general term to describe players in different positions who contribute to the flow of the game. So, this means you can be a playmaker for your team regardless of your position. However, players who do the most playmaking are central midfielders and attacking midfielders, then followed by wingers, so it makes sense that these are the sort of players that will likely win playmakers awards. This doesn't mean wingers are not playmakers. Neymar is a winger and a playmaker, but the way he play make is different from Pirlo. Ozil or De Bruyne are playmakers, but the way they playmake is different from how Pirlo or Scholes playmake. Arnold is a playmaker, but he does it differently compare to Sergio Buquest or Yaya Youre. There are hundreds of different types of playmakers, and it not wise to only think midfielders are playmakers. Also you claim to base your opinion and argument on what you have seen when you watch football. And I'm wondering if you watched Cristiano Ronaldo in the first six years at Man Utd and when he played for Portugal during that time? Did you also watch him in his first few seasons in Real Madrid? If you did and still think Ronaldo is not a playmaker then we don't watch the football the same way, and truly your football knowledge is substandard at best, because the only way you can think that is if your idea of what a playmaker is, is myopic. Like I said, I don't limit the term playmaking to number 10s. Number 10s or free role players have their playmaking roles, and wingers have theirs, fullbacks have theirs and midfielders have theirs, and this combines to controlling the flow of the game. Kevin De Bruyne is the best playmaker in Man City, but Bernardo Silva, Jack Grealish, Rodri, Phil Foden are also playmakers who help Kevin De Bruyne and Man City to create chances, score goals and control the game. They are all playmakers, but so far only De Bruyne has been recognised as that, but that doesn't they are not playmakers. Back then, Paul Scholes uses his vision to find Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo in turns uses his speed, dribbling skills and crosses to create chances for himself and his teammates. He can also combine with Rooney, Tevez, Babatov, Van Nisteroy or Saha to make plays. He did same with Kaka when they played in Real Madrid. He did it often enough to make him a playmaker. It was more than having a virtue of a playmaker like you erroneously say. This was why the change in his style of play was talked about a lot in the media. If he was never a playmaker, there will be no need to refer to his reduced involvement in the game. Ten years to this time, the media will never make comments about how Haaland or Victor Oshimen is not involved in games because they were never playmakers. If Ronaldo didn't convert into a centre forward, I'm sure we won't be having this argument. Stop going in circles, I have been specific in my analysis, try to disprove my analysis instead of bringing points that has nothing to do with Ronaldo.
Jajajajjajaja deja de llorar anda Cristiano en el united era bastante mejor playmaker que todos esos luego en el madrid ya no pero no digas bobadas anda 😂😂
@@jonfernandez4194 te falta ver mucho futbol a ti si crees que cr7 fue mediocampista en algún momento y aún así tener la desfachatez de decir que fue playmaker y mejor playmaker (cuando en toda su carrera nunca ha armado juego y manejado el hilo del partido) que los jugadores que te he nombrado. A mi parecer el fanático es otro, seguro no pasas de los 15 años de edad.
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Eso se dice cuando lo comparan con ya saben quien. Aún así es cierto que ronaldo no es playmaker. Osea si puede que tenga jugadas pero no cumple esa función,ya que es más goleador de area que otra cosa.
Exacto. Por eso nunca me gustaron las comparaciones entre él y Messi, son muy diferentes y bien podrían jugar juntos. Ojalá aunque sea una temporada nos conceda a los fans ese capricho, 😝
That doesn't make sense. The reason why Messi is considered a playmaker is because of his passing and plays. This is what Ronaldo is doing in the video. Without Messi's passes, he won't be called a playmaker. You don't have to play like Messi to be considered a playmaker. Yes, Messi creates more chances and makes more plays than Ronaldo, but saying Ronaldo is not a playmaker at all is just ignorant, especially when Ronaldo played as a winger for most of his career. Wingers are playmakers, midfielders are playmakers, the new generation of full-backs are also playmakers. This why Messi fans are insufferable. Ronaldo doesn't have to play like Messi to be a playmaker.
@@batmanepicclips maradona and messi perform more functions than ronaldo and were playmakers all their lives. Ronaldo always waits in the area to score the goal, Messi and Maradona don't.
Ronaldo converted into a centre forward, Maradona and Messi didn't. Ronaldo played as a winger, in fact, he's the best winger of all time. Wingers are playmakers. Even IFFHS, ranked Ronaldo as a playmaker. So yes, Ronaldo was a playmaker, but now he's a centre forward. Please, learn the difference.
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Giving the last pass to goal is a virtue of a playmaker, but it doesn't necessarily makes you a playmaker. A playmaker is someone who controls the flow the team's play, often being involved in offensive and defensive passing moves that lead to goals. The playmaker also helps to bring the ball out from the back on their own half of the field, not in counterattack contexts (where Ronaldo were frequently involved), but in situations where the opposing team is positioned and pressing in your half of the field. Cristiano has many virtues as a player beyond goals and dribbles; you could value that in him instead of wanting him to be exactly like Messi.
They are different, let's enjoy what they both have to offer in their own ways.
Chill✌
This is going to make sense if you are talking about players like Lewa, Zlatan, Suarez, Benzema, Haaland or even Cavani. Cristiano Ronaldo played as a winger for most of his career before he converted into a center forward. A playmaker is someone who controls the flow of the game. True, but if you watch football match regularly, you know that only one player cannot control the flow of a game. This depends on your formation, but you need several players in your team to be able to control the flow of your game. In terms of attacking football, you need a defensive, central, attacking midfielders, plus left and right wingers and full-backs to control the flow of a game, playing different roles as playmakers, and that makes all of them playmakers. Hazard, Neymar, Ribery, Robben, Mo Salah, Mane, Sane, Son, Mbappe, Saka, Martineli, Bale are all wingers and playmakers. They use their pace and dribbling skills to play their playmaking roles to the best of their abilities. So saying Ronaldo is not a playmaker is like saying all wingers are playmakers. Wingers can also be goalscorers too, like Mo Salah, Mane, Son, Mbappe, and that doesn't mean they're not playmakers. Messi plays more like an attacking midfielder, while Ronaldo is more like a winger in his prime. Now he's a centre forward who main goal is to score goals. This is why I believe Ronaldo can play with Messi, because the way they play the game is different right now and even in their prime. So, yes, Ronaldo was a playmaker when he played as a winger. He didn't win any playmaker awards just like most playmakers have not won the award. Only eight players have won the award by the way, and four of them have won it more than once. No winger has won it, but most top wingers have been ranked among the top 20 best playmakers every year, including Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo was ranked in the top 10 ten best playmakers from 2007-2012. He was ranked 12th best playmakers between 2010-2019, even though he played as a centre forward from 2016-2018. So anyone who says Cristiano Ronaldo is not a playmaker has no football knowledge whatsoever.
@batmanepicclips Having virtues of playmaker doesn't necessarily makes you a playmaker, a goalkeeper is involved in the flow of the team play but a goalkeeper is not a playmaker, the fact that you can do something you're not supposed to in the pitch doesn't make you a specialist on that role, Ronaldo has shown virtues of a playmaker, that doesn't mean he is a playmaker or he is the best suited for that task, Rogerio Ceni scored more than 60 goals in his carrer despite being a goalkeeper, that doesn't make him a goalscorer or the best suited for that matter, Messi has shown some defensive skills during his carrer but that doesn't mean he was a defender or the best suited for that task, Koeman has more than 100 assists in his carrer which is a playmaker virtue, that doesn't make him a playmaker or the best suited for that task, Harry Kane played once as a goalkeeper for Tottenham that doesn't make his a goalkeeper or the best suited for that task, saying that every player has a different role as a playmaker is like saying everybody is a playmaker which devaluates the concept of playmaker, what is more accurate and true that everybody that plays football understands and have some degree of skills in a position or role he is not quote on quote "made for" cause if anyone plays football for a significant amount of time he will inevitably develope some degree of skills required in any position and or role of football, take Busquets for example, he was a striker, Guardiola turned him into a pivot or defensive midfielder if you like, and he became arguably the best defensive midfielder in history and I could make a video of Ronaldo defensive skills (Which he has ) and claim Roanldo was a defender the same way I could make a video of Busquets goals through his carrer and claim he was a badass goalscorer which wouldn't mean they were , would just mean their have some amount of skills for roles they were not supposed to play, Do you get my point?
(But hey, for whoever wants to say Ronaldo was a playmaker, please be my guest the world is not gonna fall apart )
@@meritumkratosx you are going round in circles. Ronaldo doesn't have the virtues of a playmaker. He was a playmaker as a winger. All top wingers are playmakers. If you have two wingers who are not playmakers, you will be frustrated with them. Wingers make things happen in games, they dribble, they cross the ball into the box, they pass the ball inwards for a teammate to shoot, they set up full-backs for crosses, they switch play, they carry the ball for along the flanks etc. So wingers control the flow of the game, which Ronaldo did as a winger for over ten years. Ronaldo didn't even start scoring until 2006/07 season at Man Utd. Saying Ronaldo only has a virtue of a playmaker is like saying he only has virtue of a winger. If it's true Ronaldo was never a playmaker, then why did people notice and comment he doesn't involve himself in games in his last two seasons in Real Madrid? That can never happen to players like Haaland even though he's a world class goal scorer. It was not like Ronaldo was not scoring in his last two seasons, but if you look at how his playing style, it has more semblance with a classic center forward's game than a winger. This was why people noticed his change in his playing style. I will like you to go and see videos of how Ronaldo played in his last season in Real Madrid and compare it to his first season in Juventus when he played out wide. Or watch Ronaldo videos from 2008 Man Utd and compare it with Ronaldo in 2022 Man Utd. There's a huge difference with those two style of play, and you find the that playmaking is the reason for it.
And lastly, it's interesting you failed to acknowledge the fact that Ronaldo has been recognised in the past as a playmaker by football specialists, namely the IFFHS, the same organisation that recognise Messi as the best playmaker in the 21st century. Even this same organisation, recognise Ronaldo and many other playmakers over the years. Like I said, from 2007-2012, Ronaldo was consistently ranked as one of the top 10 best playmakers in the world. His highest ranking came in 2008, the same year he won the European golden boot. The same organisation ranked him 12th among the top 20 best playmakers in the 2010-2019 decade, even though he played as a centre forward for two years in that decade. There's absolutely no argument that can hold up the conception that Ronaldo was never a playmaker. It's just ridiculous on all fronts.
@@batmanepicclips As I said before, all players on a team have required skills for roles that aren't their own. If you've played football for several years, even as an amateur, you end up developing defensive, playmaking, and scoring abilities. However, that doesn't make you a perfect "all-around player." There have been great playmakers who started as wingers and were later converted to Number 10 , players who move freely across the field and assist their team where needed, like Hazard, Neymar, Messi, Iniesta, and Maradona. But claiming that all wingers are playmakers is absurd for both wingers and playmakers. Players like Robben and Ribery were wingers throughout their careers, with playmaking traits but never ceased to be pure classic wingers, the attacking winger, who operates along the touchline, (which has become rarer as many are being converted to different roles and or positions).
Secondly I don't consider IFFHS as the basis for the debate,I rely more on my own knowledge and experience playing and watching football. However, if you insist, here's a IFFHS list of winners of the Best Playmaker award since it was created:
2006 - Zinedine Zidane
2007 - Kaká
2008 - Xavi
2009 - Xavi
2010 - Xavi
2011 - Xavi
2012 - Andrés Iniesta
2013 - Andrés Iniesta
2014 - Toni Kroos
2015 - Lionel Messi
2016 - Lionel Messi
2017 - Lionel Messi
2018 - Luka Modrić
2019 - Lionel Messi
2020 - Kevin De Bruyne
2021 - Kevin De Bruyne
2022 - Lionel Messi
Source:
www.google.com/amp/s/ng.opera.news/ng/en/sports/amp/48d0bb4524fb3f0e6d402cac8a984f92 OR.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_Football_History_%26_Statistics (check the playmakers award window)
As you can see, none of the winners were wingers by the time they received the award. I understand you're a fan of Cristiano, (And I personally became a fan of this marvelous sport because of him) However my personal liking for him doesn't prevent me from being objective in a debate. As a matter of fact Cristiano doesn't even make to the top 10 playmakers list according to blody IFFHS:
1.Lionel MESSI
2.Andres INIESTA
3.Kevin DE BRUYNE
4.Luka MODRIC
5.XAVI
6.Toni KROOS
7.Mezut OZIL
8.Andrea PIRLO
9.Eden HAZARD
10.NEYMAR
(Source: iffhs.com/posts/2595 )
I don't like relying on IFFHS since those awards are decided by players, coaches, and journalists. Players and coaches use the criteria I metioned before
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE while journalists might vote based on their journal preference or narrative, but as you can see even the IFFHS that you insisted so much on, contradicts your argument of "All wingers are playmakers".
And by the way saying things like "you are going round in circles" or "anyone who says Cristiano Ronaldo is not a playmaker has no football knowledge whatsoever" as If "anyone one who doesn't agree with me has no fooball knowledge" I mean what a hell of a thing to say in a debate, It really emphasizes your neutrality and objectiveness.
@@meritumkratosx but you are still going around in circles, and that's the truth. For instance, I never said IFFHS ranks Ronaldo in the top 10 best playmakers, I said he was ranked 12th best playmaker between 2010-2019 by the IFFHS, so explain to me why a player who is not a playmaker is on the list of top playmakers in the last decade. And it was very convenient of you to try to disregard the IFFHS because it doesn't suit your argument, so much for your unbiased opinion.
Also I never said all wingers are playmakers. I said all TOP wingers are playmakers, including Robben and Ribery. Playmaking is a general term to describe players in different positions who contribute to the flow of the game. So, this means you can be a playmaker for your team regardless of your position. However, players who do the most playmaking are central midfielders and attacking midfielders, then followed by wingers, so it makes sense that these are the sort of players that will likely win playmakers awards. This doesn't mean wingers are not playmakers. Neymar is a winger and a playmaker, but the way he play make is different from Pirlo. Ozil or De Bruyne are playmakers, but the way they playmake is different from how Pirlo or Scholes playmake. Arnold is a playmaker, but he does it differently compare to Sergio Buquest or Yaya Youre. There are hundreds of different types of playmakers, and it not wise to only think midfielders are playmakers.
Also you claim to base your opinion and argument on what you have seen when you watch football. And I'm wondering if you watched Cristiano Ronaldo in the first six years at Man Utd and when he played for Portugal during that time? Did you also watch him in his first few seasons in Real Madrid? If you did and still think Ronaldo is not a playmaker then we don't watch the football the same way, and truly your football knowledge is substandard at best, because the only way you can think that is if your idea of what a playmaker is, is myopic. Like I said, I don't limit the term playmaking to number 10s. Number 10s or free role players have their playmaking roles, and wingers have theirs, fullbacks have theirs and midfielders have theirs, and this combines to controlling the flow of the game. Kevin De Bruyne is the best playmaker in Man City, but Bernardo Silva, Jack Grealish, Rodri, Phil Foden are also playmakers who help Kevin De Bruyne and Man City to create chances, score goals and control the game. They are all playmakers, but so far only De Bruyne has been recognised as that, but that doesn't they are not playmakers. Back then, Paul Scholes uses his vision to find Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo in turns uses his speed, dribbling skills and crosses to create chances for himself and his teammates. He can also combine with Rooney, Tevez, Babatov, Van Nisteroy or Saha to make plays. He did same with Kaka when they played in Real Madrid. He did it often enough to make him a playmaker. It was more than having a virtue of a playmaker like you erroneously say. This was why the change in his style of play was talked about a lot in the media. If he was never a playmaker, there will be no need to refer to his reduced involvement in the game. Ten years to this time, the media will never make comments about how Haaland or Victor Oshimen is not involved in games because they were never playmakers. If Ronaldo didn't convert into a centre forward, I'm sure we won't be having this argument.
Stop going in circles, I have been specific in my analysis, try to disprove my analysis instead of bringing points that has nothing to do with Ronaldo.
Ufff tremendo!!
No es playmaker, es un insulto a jugadores de la talla y elegancia como pirlo, xavi, zidane, modric
Jajajajjajaja deja de llorar anda Cristiano en el united era bastante mejor playmaker que todos esos luego en el madrid ya no pero no digas bobadas anda 😂😂
@@jonfernandez4194 Como que era bastante mejor playmaker que XAVI,zidane,pirlo,modric🤣
@@jonfernandez4194 te falta ver mucho futbol a ti si crees que cr7 fue mediocampista en algún momento y aún así tener la desfachatez de decir que fue playmaker y mejor playmaker (cuando en toda su carrera nunca ha armado juego y manejado el hilo del partido) que los jugadores que te he nombrado. A mi parecer el fanático es otro, seguro no pasas de los 15 años de edad.
Thats why he has 5 "playmaker of the year"😂