It wasn't demeaning. It gave the panel something else to work with e.g. Dorothy K liked to look at their hands looking for callouses etc. Also there was the manner in which they walk maybe giving some clues so it wasn't 'demeaning'. But it didn't accomplish much- panel guessed it 4 times and did slow down the game
I have been watching these What's My Line shows over the last year and a half. I swear to God, between Dorothy and Bennet, they seem to guess at least 85% of the guests! !! They are friggin unreal!!
Here's a short article www.newsfromme.com/2002/04/18/kenptiwr/ that somewhat addresses how the panelists were so successful in guessing the lines of the guests.
@rcbpiccolo Yes, you may certainly say how much you love the very witty and urbane John Charles Daly, who was probably the most intelligent person ever to host a television game show, in addition to his having been a first-rate broadcast journalist, whose CBS Radio bulletin of the December 7, 1941 attack by Japan upon the United States of America at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii is legendary. A donation in Mr. Daly's memory may be made to his beloved Tilton School, in Tilton, New Hamphire.
The American newscasters who spoke, as Edwards did, (I'm referring to many of his contemporaries) came from hugely diverse geographic regions of The United States yet they all spoke this way. The Edith Evans is obviously using "Standard British English" but I found her a little "over the top" this way as is the boy's speech however Mr. Greenfield sounds more "realistic" within this context. Fascinating subject! Nice to have met you; you're a good guy!
Gil Fates described Cerf's accent as upper east side Manhattan New York gentry. That lisp is not part of some speech impediment -- it was part of the accent at that time. Don't know if it still exists in New York City in 2013.
In "those days" many better educated Americans would sort of affect sort of English inflection; President Roosevelt would be another example of this. Then there were those who did make it a point to speak "Standard American English" even though there was really no place in The United States where people would speak this way by region; here's an example of this by a very famous American newscaster: watch?v=LZWVUXA1qbg
You're quite welcome. By the same token, there is something called "Standard British English" which does have "real life" speakers based (though not primarily) by region though it's my understanding that the percentage of people who speak this way is rather small.
@63utuber I was wondering why he was wearing that whole outfit. It looks as though he was late for the recording and came from home without having time to change lol
Could someone in the USA help me, please? To my ears, Bennet Cerf (whom I adore) has a curious accent. I'm British and I can't quite place it, unless it's sort of educated Boston Latin. Would anyone be kind enough to let me know...?
@PirateQueenMaureen I think it's fair to say she is something of an acquired taste. However, once that taste has been acquired, she is a requisite member of the panel.
It was hard to find your comment; someone marked it as spam; this seems odd to me but then again, this is "RUclips" so anything can happen. Yes, I mean "BBC English" much as I exposed "ComposerinUK" to Standard American or "Broadcast English" which also has no real geographic base. (I hope you watched that clip of the late Douglas Edwards.) Actually you're shortchanging the number of people who, in the UK speak this way; my understanding is that it's probably about 14% but I could be wrong.
Folk dancing is not the same as ceremonial, ethnic, or ritual dancing. Folk dancing is performed for the enjoyment of the dancers. Folk dances are not rigidly stylized, but only follow loose rules (such as in polkas and square dances). Also folk dances are not performed specifically to entertain an audience. Conversely, hula dancing is highly stylized and typically performed for the benefit of an audience, so it is usually not considered a folk dance, but an ethnic or ceremonial dance.
As a hula dancer and a student in the style, I'm surprised she said no at first. It is very much the folk dance, the traditional dance of the original Hawaiian people. Also, it's very much for both men and women, since at first it was a worship rite that women could not take part in, I think this lady teached the americanized entertaining "haole auana" style made famous by Elvis among others.
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Losing the demeaning walk in front of the panel and the free guesses really helped the show.
Paul James
Especially with Block there
Are you kidding? Getting rid of the walk is the best decision that show ever made!
It wasn't demeaning. It gave the panel something else to work with e.g. Dorothy K liked to look at their hands looking for callouses etc. Also there was the manner in which they walk maybe giving some clues so it wasn't 'demeaning'. But it didn't accomplish much- panel guessed it 4 times and did slow down the game
Arlene looks pretty when she was blonde but she looked gorgeous in her natural hair color!
I have been watching these What's My Line shows
over the last year and a half. I swear to God, between Dorothy and Bennet, they seem to guess at least 85% of the guests! !! They are friggin unreal!!
Here's a short article www.newsfromme.com/2002/04/18/kenptiwr/
that somewhat addresses how the panelists were so successful in guessing the lines of the guests.
Me too!! Dorothy is a genius. Probably helps she was an investigative reporter too, huh?
Dorothy strikes me always with her analytical skills. What would they have done without her?!
Fail miserably lol
This aired July 20, 1952 on CBS. The mystery guest was Ann Sheridan.
Can I just say how much I love John Daly =)
Gotta love Dorothy.
@rcbpiccolo Yes, you may certainly say how much you love the very witty and urbane John Charles Daly, who was probably the most intelligent person ever to host a television game show, in addition to his having been a first-rate broadcast journalist, whose CBS Radio bulletin of the December 7, 1941 attack by Japan upon the United States of America at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii is legendary.
A donation in Mr. Daly's memory may be made to his beloved Tilton School, in Tilton, New Hamphire.
Thanks so much for taking the time to explain this to me. I really appreciate it.
She may dance the hula, but the correct answer Dorothy should have asked was if she was a hula instructor.
Well now I am fully informed... thank you for taking the time to write.
The American newscasters who spoke, as Edwards did, (I'm referring to many of his contemporaries) came from hugely diverse geographic regions of The United States yet they all spoke this way.
The Edith Evans is obviously using "Standard British English" but I found her a little "over the top" this way as is the boy's speech however Mr. Greenfield sounds more "realistic" within this context.
Fascinating subject!
Nice to have met you; you're a good guy!
Gil Fates described Cerf's accent as upper east side Manhattan New York gentry. That lisp is not part of some speech impediment -- it was part of the accent at that time. Don't know if it still exists in New York City in 2013.
No. People speak Dominican now.
What accent talk miss Kilgallen ?
In "those days" many better educated Americans would sort of affect sort of English inflection; President Roosevelt would be another example of this.
Then there were those who did make it a point to speak "Standard American English" even though there was really no place in The United States where people would speak this way by region; here's an example of this by a very famous American newscaster:
watch?v=LZWVUXA1qbg
@wmlfan9 How true!
that was good
@imonpainkillers Yes a rare gem for certain.
How do you dance the hula?
You put a crop of grass on one hip, and a crop of grass on the other hip. Then you rotate the crops...
You're quite welcome.
By the same token, there is something called "Standard British English" which does have "real life" speakers based (though not primarily) by region though it's my understanding that the percentage of people who speak this way is rather small.
Must have aired before 1959 ... before Hawai'i was admitted as a State ...
@63utuber I was wondering why he was wearing that whole outfit. It looks as though he was late for the recording and came from home without having time to change lol
it seems that John Daly normally wears a bow tie on this show, how often has he wore this style of tie before
Could someone in the USA help me, please? To my ears, Bennet Cerf (whom I adore) has a curious accent. I'm British and I can't quite place it, unless it's sort of educated Boston Latin. Would anyone be kind enough to let me know...?
ComposerInUK, light New York.
Educated Jewish New Yorkese (early 20th century division) is more like it. Lifelong New Yorker and he studied at Columbia.
ComposerInUK That's why Scorsese cast Brits as the aristos in The Age of Innocence
Whoa, what's with the audience reaction when they get to know who the lady is ?
People back in the 1950s and 60s were always titillated by people with jobs that were either unusual or connected somehow to something sexy .
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People back in the 1950s and 1960s held jobs.
@wmlfan9 I knwo. it is just so awkward.
@PirateQueenMaureen I think it's fair to say she is something of an acquired taste. However, once that taste has been acquired, she is a requisite member of the panel.
I got something you can taste...
It was hard to find your comment; someone marked it as spam; this seems odd to me but then again, this is "RUclips" so anything can happen.
Yes, I mean "BBC English" much as I exposed "ComposerinUK" to Standard American or "Broadcast English" which also has no real geographic base. (I hope you watched that clip of the late Douglas Edwards.)
Actually you're shortchanging the number of people who, in the UK speak this way; my understanding is that it's probably about 14% but I could be wrong.
@wmlfan9 I agree lol it's just not right :P
Gosh the audience really give away a lot of these.
2:58 anti-science loons might have something to say.
Questioning what is put in our bodies is not being anti-science, you sheep.
Huh ... I wonder why Daly is wearing a straight tie here.
Folk dancing is not the same as ceremonial, ethnic, or ritual dancing. Folk dancing is performed for the enjoyment of the dancers. Folk dances are not rigidly stylized, but only follow loose rules (such as in polkas and square dances). Also folk dances are not performed specifically to entertain an audience. Conversely, hula dancing is highly stylized and typically performed for the benefit of an audience, so it is usually not considered a folk dance, but an ethnic or ceremonial dance.
There's something just not right (to a rabid WML fan) about Bennett not sitting on the end near the entrance.
As a hula dancer and a student in the style, I'm surprised she said no at first. It is very much the folk dance, the traditional dance of the original Hawaiian people. Also, it's very much for both men and women, since at first it was a worship rite that women could not take part in, I think this lady teached the americanized entertaining "haole auana" style made famous by Elvis among others.
The guest parading in front of the panelists and the free guess was a waste of time. Fortunately, they got rid of that segments early on.
I liked it. Wish they got rid of segments of you instead.
No one cares, boomer
Hal Block is SO CREEPY!!! Eww!