yeah his smile is totally genuine like I didnt just look up the fuckn world and it have erp in its tags and an -18 version. god people need to be more educated.
@@sanctatwo0366 Cybersex the activity is essentially phone sex. Aka, not a cup of tea for shy, monotone, reserved programmers who are very British and reserved.
@@Allyfyn this is the description of the world VRChat World Info: WORLD IS MADE IN 2019.4.31 ★ Comes with 3.0 Phone update ★ Baked light ★ You can request any color you want if u can't bake ★ Monitor and phone background can be changed ★ Fully working phone both touch and ui friendly ★ Custom made Lovense app ★ Pool table ★ Spin the bottle ★ dancing pole
Camila has a *much* better tracking setup than Vedal. You can see it the second it turns on because the face is a lot more animated - blinking, moving, etc. I really don't get how people mixed that up?
Vedal is such a good friend regardless of how he acts. Specially after what happened with camille, he's here with her, making her laugh, and enjoying their time together. So Cute!!!!
@@MoofmoofIt’d say it’s more of a maturity thing. Even outside of Vtubers, people will make fun of others for having any type of that stuff, even though they themselves have it too. Once you reach a certain age, you don’t care about it anymore, but I guess it makes sense since Twitch chat is mostly immature children...lol
I think everyone got it wrong because Vedal had his eyes open more than usual on his model So everyone assumed the more awake and alert looking one was Camilla
I think chat was just trolling, but if not then I guess they don't really focus much on Vedal's model during streams. So here's some tips. One dead giveaway is that Camila is much more energetic than Vedal. If you take a look at the model, you can see that Vedal does not move that much. On the other hand, Camila has "mild" ADHD, so you can see her moving. Another is that Vedal's model rarely ever blushes. The blush is initiated by a smile, so you can guess how this doesn't really show when he uses it. Camila, as a vtuber, has to exaggerate her expressions when using her model. This was shown by Layna when she opened her webcam and explained that her movements look weird and exaggerated because the models need to look energetic and expressive. Another great example is when Vedal used Camila's model. You can see how much more expressive Camila is compared to him, like when she tried to get him to wiggle the ponytails. She could do it quite effortlessly, while Vedal barely managed to do it despite doing his hardest to smile. Since she has done vtubing for a few years now, her resting face is a smile. On her streams, her hair is always wiggling and she easily laughs compared to Vedal, whose resting face is a frown and rarely laughs. So she is forcing herself not to smile, while Vedal is just himself. Thanks for listening to my over-analyzation of their models
Vedal having resting bitch face is such a funny idea in my head, compared to a lot of the other Vtubers who likely are just like Camila with the resting smile.
The other reason camillas model is more responsive is software, vedal uses a cheaper Webcam setup, since hey just has a turtle to track. Camilla as a full vtuber uses the iPhone facial tracking software. You can absolute seen this incredible reverse when hey in her model
i dont rly care if it's prn or erp to be honest, he's a grown man and it's not hurting anyone. but it really is a vrchat world it's just a really pink appartment with a silly name.
it's a nothing burger, other than the thing he addresses here they're mostly project stuff. nothing cancellable, some scrapers proving that neuro's data was fine tuned on discord and twitch chat(duh). morally grey but no 'vaush' moment. and a shit ton of pirating stuff.
Having once been the guy that accidentally shows a file with a sus name to a bunch of people, I perfectly understand the Tutel. I also understand how funny it is when it happens to someone else 😂
Had a friend who looked at another’s search history and i told him it was a bad idea. Found lots of fnaf, pokemon, sonic, furry and other pron. learnt never to pry into anyones history that day. Feel bad for the dude but man i wish i could unsee that stuff
I'm in too deep boys, it took me less than 3 seconds to guess each time (first one with the smile, second one with the head tracking), and I didn't even watch Vtubers a year ago because it was too cringe for my liking, I've changed...
I have the same world files, nice custom homeworld with tons of little hidden features, even a pool table and a tv. However, it also has some hidden objects.😅
VRChat World Info: WORLD IS MADE IN 2019.4.31 ★ Comes with 3.0 Phone update ★ Baked light ★ You can request any color you want if u can't bake ★ Monitor and phone background can be changed ★ Fully working phone both touch and ui friendly ★ Custom made Lovense app ★ Pool table ★ Spin the bottle ★ dancing pole Hmmmmmmmm. Susge
My question is simple... even if it WAS porn, who cares? It's much, much, stranger if someone DOESN'T have some kind of porn. Those are the people you need to be worried about.
Funny thing about vedal and camilla swapping models is that vedal is so unexpressive that you can just spot him by how little he emotes at any particular time
Well to be fair, about the Pokémon folders, they could be for neuro to play later... can't exactly have her playing DS games through... Normal methods.... tho it would be funny to see a robot arm playing DS
These two have some funny chemistry one would first think romance but after seeing them collab together a few times they have that sibling mischief vibe like his the older brother and Camilla is the lil sister trying to get big bro in trouble lol
how could they get that wrong? the moment the models popped up, the upper one had a blushing slight smile... thats the physiological base setting für the cute Imp.
*Chat can't figure it out* Were they all inebriated or something? You could tell right off the bat. Also, the fans would break if they ever saw turtle vedal smile of his own free will.
It is cyber sex though, it has a custom Lovesense app, and the video literally has a guy putting a leash on a virtual anime girl. And it has a stripper pole, and toggleable mirrors all around the bed. There is no freaking way Vedal didn't notice this if he was working on it, besides the name alone would have made him curious enough to have a look at it. "I don't know, I wasn't paying attention." He's such a liar.
But you’re acting like he cares enough, why the fuck should Vedal care if someone is a horny little shit, he was asked to help, and based on the name he probably didn’t want to know anyways.
It makes me really sad to hear how much of an upset to her life this stalker a-hole has been. Watching clips and videos of Camila’s streams usually bring a wide smile to my face.
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
I find it so cute that vedal's model only blushes when his smile is genuine
kinda gives away which one's camila cause his model rarely "blushes" while camilla can's stop making it blush xD
yeah his smile is totally genuine like I didnt just look up the fuckn world and it have erp in its tags and an -18 version. god people need to be more educated.
@@sanctatwo0366 the hell are you trying to say lil bro
form your thoughts before you puke them onto the internet.
Yo. He pushes a button. Chill.
@@sanctatwo0366 Cybersex the activity is essentially phone sex. Aka, not a cup of tea for shy, monotone, reserved programmers who are very British and reserved.
"You have to understand chat, the cyberseggs was a misunderstanding, it was for VRchat" 🐢
"any files, any folders that are named as though they are pirated games... guys, that is the folders are simply named that" 🐢
I believe him, though chat is too coomer-brained to.
@@Allyfyn this is the description of the world
VRChat World
Info: WORLD IS MADE IN 2019.4.31
★ Comes with 3.0 Phone update
★ Baked light
★ You can request any color you want if u can't bake
★ Monitor and phone background can be changed
★ Fully working phone both touch and ui friendly
★ Custom made Lovense app
★ Pool table
★ Spin the bottle
★ dancing pole
"it doesn't is what it looks like I swear! it's just difficult to explain!"
It actually is. I have the world on my account believe it or not it's a home world
It's crazy how much Camila-Turtle looks like a different character than Vedal-Turtle despite being the exact same model.
You could probably have like 4 of them in the same screen with different people, and there would be obvious differences between each person.
It's called personality same body but different personalitys
it's like pink guy, filthy frank, and joji
@@pcenero I miss Filthy Frank.
@@KnofbathI miss not-cringe Idubbbz
Camimi: You can smile about having alcohol in your hands
Vedal: 👁👄👁
That is him trying to smile
"alcohol" vedal: ":D"
How everyone got it wrong. Camilla's Tutel model is constantly blushing 😂
well, last time they did something similar, we discovered Vedal didnt know how to turn off the blush lol
Camila blinks more too. That's how I picked which was which.
Vedal doesn't really move and blinks less than camilla
That's what I thought. She also smiles a lot, which gives it away
Camila has a *much* better tracking setup than Vedal. You can see it the second it turns on because the face is a lot more animated - blinking, moving, etc. I really don't get how people mixed that up?
I trust 🐢. He's not a noob that put such collections on a vulnerable location.
The collection is hidden in Neuro's code, the password is hidden in Evil's code, and the decoding hash is hidden somewhere in his model's details.
@@KyzenEXNo the decoding hash is in filter-chan's code
@@pantsu-sama8311 that's the second decoding hash, we cannot have just one 🐢
@@KyzenEX decoding hash is in the abandoned archive
Heavy flirting going on between me and a 20th-floor window
widow or window?
@@yuhau1535window
Big same. Gonna give the ground a big hug
@@yuhau1535 Question : What's a 20-th floor widow?
@@mozvi1436 a hag you can maxx
1:05 You can absolutely see Camilla trying to do her best vedal face, but slowly failing
That was proof that organising your downloads folder definitely is worth it.
All my downloads go to my desktop, so I HAVE to organize when it happens.
Yea, i only use my download folder when downloading images. everything else goes on the desktop cause then i dont leave .tar.gz's laying around.
Yeah except when you leak your folder you downloaded to last and its the worst one 😂
Why tf would you organize a download folder? You're supposed to take stuff out of it
@@VelvetIcematorounironic LPTs right there, you don't manage it, you can't find shit on your desktop 😅
Vedal is such a good friend regardless of how he acts. Specially after what happened with camille, he's here with her, making her laugh, and enjoying their time together. So Cute!!!!
I don't know how people got which turtle is Vedal wrong
I don't know either. It was sooo easy. I guess they just wanted to troll.
He made a noise right when the top one made a tiny smirk. I think thats what got them.
Camilla’s is also darker than Vedals. Everyone should’ve gotten it right after the first one.
First one had camila accidentally sync with vedal noises + blush, second one idk
@@nDmykARTthe first one was easy… the dude never smiles, he’s British after all
1:32 Vedal bottom confirmed
that vrchat world has a custom made Lovense app, amazing.
Yikes
@@MumboJumboZXC"Yikes"
Buddy you're watching vtubers
We're all degenerate don't start acting all high and mighty and pure
@@MumboJumboZXCWhat’s yikes about the activities of consenting adults?
@@goatmeister8253
They're degenerates, and probably gay. They should be ashamed.
@@freeasschaps5840 you and i are not the same.
Camimi is just too cute with her laughter and smiles
without seeing chat there's no way everyone got who was who wrong. the droopy eyes on vedal gave him away lol.
Bruh, I got it wrong on the first one. I got it right on the second though.
i was the opposite
Vinny vinesauce: "It's not sex"
Vedal: "It's not cyber sex"
While I trust the tutel, he coulda just said "its pron for VRChat" and be done with the allegations.
That just opens an entire other can of worms if he admits to it lmao
Looking up cybersex without filters was maybe a bad idea...
Even if it is porn or something it’s not like the audience is a complete saint either. Veda’s is just dude and I believe him.
It's the typical vtuber culture lol. Goon to anime all day but riot when your favorite vtuber vaguely flirts with someone.
@@MoofmoofIt’d say it’s more of a maturity thing. Even outside of Vtubers, people will make fun of others for having any type of that stuff, even though they themselves have it too. Once you reach a certain age, you don’t care about it anymore, but I guess it makes sense since Twitch chat is mostly immature children...lol
Not my seiso Vedal.
Glad to see her having fun after the incident
???
I looked it up, HOLY SHIT with a sledgehammer?!
@@jsamue12 this is wild out of context
(I know the context)
And i do not!
@@makoshark40 ok?
I think everyone got it wrong because Vedal had his eyes open more than usual on his model
So everyone assumed the more awake and alert looking one was Camilla
I dont know how, the blush on the first one gave it away, and on the second one, her moving around, and flittering the eyes gave it away.
I think chat was just trolling, but if not then I guess they don't really focus much on Vedal's model during streams. So here's some tips.
One dead giveaway is that Camila is much more energetic than Vedal. If you take a look at the model, you can see that Vedal does not move that much. On the other hand, Camila has "mild" ADHD, so you can see her moving.
Another is that Vedal's model rarely ever blushes. The blush is initiated by a smile, so you can guess how this doesn't really show when he uses it. Camila, as a vtuber, has to exaggerate her expressions when using her model. This was shown by Layna when she opened her webcam and explained that her movements look weird and exaggerated because the models need to look energetic and expressive.
Another great example is when Vedal used Camila's model. You can see how much more expressive Camila is compared to him, like when she tried to get him to wiggle the ponytails. She could do it quite effortlessly, while Vedal barely managed to do it despite doing his hardest to smile.
Since she has done vtubing for a few years now, her resting face is a smile. On her streams, her hair is always wiggling and she easily laughs compared to Vedal, whose resting face is a frown and rarely laughs. So she is forcing herself not to smile, while Vedal is just himself.
Thanks for listening to my over-analyzation of their models
nice profile pic. With some of my friend, we've take screenshot of those video and put it as our profile pic some years ago.
Vedal having resting bitch face is such a funny idea in my head, compared to a lot of the other Vtubers who likely are just like Camila with the resting smile.
Its not that complicated. The model is just calibrated to a different face.
The other reason camillas model is more responsive is software, vedal uses a cheaper Webcam setup, since hey just has a turtle to track. Camilla as a full vtuber uses the iPhone facial tracking software. You can absolute seen this incredible reverse when hey in her model
i dont rly care if it's prn or erp to be honest, he's a grown man and it's not hurting anyone. but it really is a vrchat world it's just a really pink appartment with a silly name.
the pirated games are definitely pirated games though, but obviously he has to say they aren't, especially with recent nintendo lawsuits
The website for it lists as a feature “custom made Lovense app”. So I think it’s not just a silly name.
he had other folders in his downloads that some people on 4chan and discord already identified as being vrchat nsfw avatars for erp
@@sammxn-w2v name them or give link
@@tyruskarmesin5418 Just like with avatars, any world is an erp world if you're horny enough
I'll say, based tutel without even knowing what's in the folder 🗿
it's a nothing burger, other than the thing he addresses here they're mostly project stuff.
nothing cancellable, some scrapers proving that neuro's data was fine tuned on discord and twitch chat(duh). morally grey but no 'vaush' moment.
and a shit ton of pirating stuff.
it was very based
nekopara full collection
"Nothing smile about my life😕"
"What thats so sad🥺"
"😀"
Camila just casually rocking her turtle back and forth on its shell while Vedal is talking 😂
Why tf is noone talking about 9:41 when she "thought she saw a RED ROCKET"??????
OwO
its best not to talk about it
Based.
white women
what's a red rocket
It's so easy to tell which one is Camila cause she makes vedals model blush Constantly
Having once been the guy that accidentally shows a file with a sus name to a bunch of people, I perfectly understand the Tutel. I also understand how funny it is when it happens to someone else 😂
Had a friend who looked at another’s search history and i told him it was a bad idea. Found lots of fnaf, pokemon, sonic, furry and other pron. learnt never to pry into anyones history that day. Feel bad for the dude but man i wish i could unsee that stuff
That dog feels like I should be hearing
"Welcome once again to Lehto's Law"
If you want to know how it’s easy to tell it’s simple…
He’s British and never smiles… that’s about it, chat had to be trolling.
Camilla was constantly blushing and vedal never blushes
I'm in too deep boys, it took me less than 3 seconds to guess each time (first one with the smile, second one with the head tracking), and I didn't even watch Vtubers a year ago because it was too cringe for my liking, I've changed...
Keep digging
I caught the first one by how she was blinking far more often.
peak character development
Being “cringe” isn’t bad as long as it’s not being creepy towards others imo
His VRchat playtime allegations that he's so ashamed of are making more sense each day.
8:08 the clicking and the hwmmm...definitly moving files
I have the same world files, nice custom homeworld with tons of little hidden features, even a pool table and a tv. However, it also has some hidden objects.😅
It's easy to tell cuz camila is blushing
I mean…VRchat is technically Cyber seggs the game when you really think about it
VRChat World
Info: WORLD IS MADE IN 2019.4.31
★ Comes with 3.0 Phone update
★ Baked light
★ You can request any color you want if u can't bake
★ Monitor and phone background can be changed
★ Fully working phone both touch and ui friendly
★ Custom made Lovense app
★ Pool table
★ Spin the bottle
★ dancing pole
Hmmmmmmmm. Susge
lovesense app hmmmm
Oh, lovesense, shiii, that company is a “toy” app that can connect to things in a game
@@vortex442 oh you don't have to explain to me what it is.
I was like “standard VRChat”, then I saw Lovense. Oh Vedal, what are you doing?
vedal is getting freaky, femboy + lovense checks out
Camila rolling around on her shell was pretty damn cute.
it’s pretty obvious which is which - camila moves more, she’s wiggly, vedal is very still.
Not even chat could ever see Vedal being on top 😂
This vrchat world has pool table, spin the bottle and dancing pole. I wonder what is it for.
i look it up and it is a erp world
nah the people in chat has never watched a vedal stream in their life cause how did they get that wrong
how did everyone get that wrong? you could hear camila stifling her laugh and the top model was grinning!
Can confirm it is a vrchat world. It's practically just a nice home world.
My question is simple... even if it WAS porn, who cares? It's much, much, stranger if someone DOESN'T have some kind of porn. Those are the people you need to be worried about.
Funny thing about vedal and camilla swapping models is that vedal is so unexpressive that you can just spot him by how little he emotes at any particular time
It's fairly easy to tell which ones which when you know which one has better tracking.
Alex saying he got like 700 hours in VRChat doesn't help
I’m pretty sure everyone was saying which one was camila but the question was which one is tutel, which is why people kept being wrong
3:29 that was pretty funny 😂
You can tell which one is Camila by looking at which one just can’t keep still.
You can tell who's Vedal from the amount of blush lmaoo
Well to be fair, about the Pokémon folders, they could be for neuro to play later... can't exactly have her playing DS games through... Normal methods.... tho it would be funny to see a robot arm playing DS
compared to each other when they're both tutels Vedal's model looks dead while Camila's looks very very cheery
I’m honestly baffled how people got it wrong. I got it within like 2 seconds both times.
anny folder and vr chat world?!, hmmmmmm the connect is dotting
Neuro 2 is on its way.
How did chat not guess which was which, while Camila was actively corpsing?
I think her attempts to throw people off with "stop smiling, Vedal" worked. I saw through it immediately.
I trust him
Greggs Chicken Bakes certainly are a good reason to smile.
"don't look at the sonic stuff"
Fr fr? 👀
A Neuro vs Nintendo lawyers stream would be sick
Looked it up. It exists! It vibrates.
"how did we play mario cart on the first collab?" i need context.
I don't know how everyone got it wrong, I guessed the right tutel both times.
Vedal gave a helping hand.
These two have some funny chemistry one would first think romance but after seeing them collab together a few times they have that sibling mischief vibe like his the older brother and Camilla is the lil sister trying to get big bro in trouble lol
The furthest the joke went was "haha pron homework folder", I didnt see why it was such a big point from chat lmao
As soon as I sew the frown I knew bottom was Vedal.
Its in the eyes vedal just got that pattern
I knew vedal's model was the bottom one first and then the top right I swear
Cyber Hanky panky and Vedals turtle model just does not mix 😂
I'm kinda surprised too that chat didn't get it right
I knew he was the bottom one. It was the one that looked the most dead inside.
I knew she was the top turtle because she kept checking chat and moving while bro just locked in fully
The blush is giving it away
nothing to smile about in my life 3:21 timestamp for me
She fidgets so much that it's easy to tell, though the droopy eyes the first time threw me off at first.
how could they get that wrong? the moment the models popped up, the upper one had a blushing slight smile... thats the physiological base setting für the cute Imp.
I could tell by the blush
Anny: Why am I not invited?
Nice, i got them both because of the blush
"show me the man and I'll show you the Downloads folder"
Honestly I'm just here to hear our imp be happy and laugh.
I got both of them right in like 2 seconds. Because Camilla can’t stop smiling.
As a guy, I guessed right. Neutral expression is sad, not happy
Now I'm curious how it will work out when Vedal uses Camila modal
So i'm not the only one giving stupid names to folders.
I mean, its just the average VRChat experiêncw
I have to admit, they're very cute as turtles.
*Chat can't figure it out* Were they all inebriated or something? You could tell right off the bat. Also, the fans would break if they ever saw turtle vedal smile of his own free will.
I am so disappointed I missed this I literally fell asleep an hour before he leaked it and now ill never know what was there 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
to be fair...I also name files like that from time to time for no reason
Lmao bro I send my peers fucked up folder names all the time even at my corporate level, shit is funny. I will never be matuee
To be honest, vedal is as innocent as camila’s chat.
It is cyber sex though, it has a custom Lovesense app, and the video literally has a guy putting a leash on a virtual anime girl. And it has a stripper pole, and toggleable mirrors all around the bed. There is no freaking way Vedal didn't notice this if he was working on it, besides the name alone would have made him curious enough to have a look at it. "I don't know, I wasn't paying attention." He's such a liar.
But you’re acting like he cares enough, why the fuck should Vedal care if someone is a horny little shit, he was asked to help, and based on the name he probably didn’t want to know anyways.
It makes me really sad to hear how much of an upset to her life this stalker a-hole has been. Watching clips and videos of Camila’s streams usually bring a wide smile to my face.