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also people knew how to play because of: paying with friends, playing in arcades, reading gaming magazines. there was also a phoneline in my country from Nintendo and you could ask them to reveal tricks and secrets
The golden era of SF2! I was 11 years old in 1992, and every liquor store, laundromat, 7-11, burger joint, and small market had SF2. Shout out to all the OG World Warriors!!! Edit: Man, such great stories!!! Thank you to everyone that shared. From 1991-1994, SF2 was LIFE!
Born 81. Same age as you. We had SF2 champion edition machine at our "depanneur" thats our corner store in Canada/Quebec. We also had tournament at the arcade near my school. I remember puttin our pile of quarters in line to save our turn. Man thise were the days. Lol
I remember those days as well. I was 11/12 in 1992. Most of my fighting games were played at gas stations and laundromats. But we did have a cool arcade in Upland California where I grew up. It was called family fun center and there was a place called bullwinkles right next to it that kinda had an arcade too but it was mostly rides and Chuck E. Cheese type games
I’m 48 and I was there at Sunnyvale Golfland in like 91,92 when Capcom USA was still HQed in Santa Clara and rolled out SF2 Championship Edition cabinet. We had all our tokens lined up on the cabinet and there were at least 20 of us. It blew us away that we could play the bosses and have mirror matches. I ended up being the coordinator keeping track of who was next up. That ended up getting me a job at Golfland tha5 year. Real fond memories of the ‘early times’ from an old guy.
I grew up down the street from there actually near vallco you have a few years on me but I went up there to play as a kid. Went on to play mvc2 CVS 2 we always looked up to you guys 😂😂 good times up there just a bunch of ticket games now yeah I remembered capcom being in santa clara damnn bro taking me back
i was 10 old enough to get the hype and was it amazing living that time till 1999 when the hype slowed down. street fighter 4 made some noise though when it came out. sf2 hyper fighting is my favourite(arcade version not snes)
Im 35 and golfland was the spot. So many good times at that arcade. Ill never forget when i got stomped by this dude using hugo on me. He beat me at least 15 straight times. I was crushed n couldnt take another loss after the 15th time😂
I'm 43 and a native New Yorker. I was 10 back in 1991 when my local bodega just got in Street Fighter 2: WORLD WARRIOR. The following year, in the summer of 1992, every bodega, pizzeria, laundromat, and arcade had Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition. There used to be at least 20 of us huddled in the back of the store around the arcade cabinet. Man, the good old days. What a time to be alive!
Here in Mexico we had them Arcade cabinets in every chemist's, convenience store, greengrocer´s... hell, there were houses who would put them outside their homes and bring them back in at 11 p.m. I remember walking to places to find new challengers. I would be walking by a place and start hearing the Dhalsim stage track and that was a game on for me. I couldn't believe it when I saw for the first time Champion Edition, I was mesmerized, being able to pick Boxer was my dream and bummer he was so nerfed compare to World Warriors, but it was fun still, a challenge. Good times to be a gamer.
Yo naci en el mero 90 y a mi me toco ya cuando SF estaba comenzando el "declive" por el 96 ya veias casi puro kof y no tanto SF... que chingon eso de que en las casas sacaran maquinas arcades!
Hah, your story reminds me of the days in Japan when small family stores would setup Famicoms in their shop (keep in mind this is basically a house) and charge like 10 yen for 10 minutes of play. Good times.
I remember doing a KoF 95 Tournament in an arcade once. There was about 25 entrants and one machine. It took FOREVER and they would show it on the big screen in the arcade using video cameras so people could see. It was fun though. I won a few KoF tournaments back then.
People don't realize how tough we had it back then, at the same time how fun it was. We basically had to go to the arcades to figure out traps, practice, etc. We had no online play, we had no frame data to go off of. It was we had to throw 50 cents into the arcade and get better.
You never used the tokens at the arcades... usually you either had to buy them off the counter or wait till the guy with the token holder and fanny pack comes around
I'm in junior high again...JWong you just brought me back to the arcade down the street..and the SF tourneys in the school library at lunch hour. It turned the bullies on the schoolyard to your friends in the arcade. We all got good with the Gamepro guides. Much love homie.
First time I played SF2, a cousin brought it over from Blockbuster video as a rental. Dhalsim's elephants trumpeting and Guile's stage music were iconic walking into an arcade. Those were the days.
and they didn't have all the info on the internet and gameplays accesible for people to study, now we even have apps where people can study games frame by frame. Its a different world.
@@daniel79tjI still remember how hard of a time I had just learning how to throw a damn hadouken! But I kept training because I wanted to beat my cousin that badly!
I believe that these folks learned combos watching one of those official guide VHS tapes, which used to be very common in Japan. Even Gradius had a strategy guide released on VHS
@@carlosaugusto9821 ikr! Most of these tapes were released alongside magazines as a gift. I remember when a brazilian magazine released an issue with the Fatal Fury movie as a gift
the commentary is absolutely wild. sure I can't understand it but they're clearly so detailed about it, you'd think it was over a modern game. I hope a lot of these guys are still in it.
Update! @GuntanksinSpace remembered the name of the series and I was able to find it on RUclips again! There is also a Garou 3 video of a similar nature by the same production company on this channel. ruclips.net/video/YvSko09UQFQ/видео.htmlsi=w1cAVbNzCOD2ribt More of this please! There’s a godlike tape of an early KOF (95 or 96) tournament that happened in a mall and most of the contestants cosplayed. I wish I could find it again.
This is my all-time favorite video you done bro keep it up Jay I'm really happy that you're showing off this amazing video especially because this tournament is the foundation to the original timeline of tournaments A lot of people don't remember that which is a shame but thank you for sharing this amazing video bro keep up the great work Jay
Born in '77 here - SFII became competative very quick - even before the SNES home version came out. Every arcade, even the small one at the mall I went to, would have SFII on a large projection TV with the pedestal controls up front for weekend tournaments. Once the SNES version came out, people could practice at home and then bring the skills back to the arcade. Then the SNES version became the standard when the Arcades started jacking up the cost to play (from 25 to 75 cents in a span of a month).
Tiger knee past a fireball mixed with the upper cuts, plus the low tiger (fireball whatever) made Sagat god like in this game. My arcade had competition this tough.
@@cheeks_of_the_boreal_valley thanks 🙏 I will continue to play and I’m working hard to make my Kimberly a master, it’s tough, getting use to drive rush tactics and trying to figure out frame rates but I’m slowly getting better at it.
that venue looks like the Ryogoku Kokugikan, where all the grand sumo tournaments are held. what a cool venue for a tournament! can't be 100% sure from the footage, but it sure looks like it. (i watch a lot of sumo.)
One of the conditions for hosting it there was they weren't allowed to use Honda in the promo art because they thought the kabuki facepaint was disrespectful or something.
I lived in Japan @ this time, and I've been telling people for decades that they had tournaments like this everywhere there. Even for a time, on-base, there were small tournaments every single weekend until Super Street Fighter 2 came out
Man, EGM vs. Gamepro. Street fighter vs. Mortal Kombat. Sega vs. Nintendo. Sonic vs. Mario. Dan vs. Dave. Pro Action Replay vs Game Genie. WWF vs WCW. Man I miss my childhood.
"How good were fighting game players back in the day?" I was there. We had godlike footsies because that's all there was and complained about the kids on our lawn when long combos became a thing.
@@adriankheyon Well no shit sf2 and maybe some neo-geo fighting games was all that was relevant back in those days, ofc there wouldn't be much to bitch about, compared to now where fighting games actually have to be properly designed and tested rather than simply dropping the buggiest mess in world at full price and calling it a day.
I feel like there's just different skill sets now: adaptation was more important 'back then' because there was so much you hadnt seen and you never knew what your competitor was capable of until you played them. I think now more studying, frame data , match footage etc . . every top player can be scouted and gameplanned. So much work involved.
Execution was much harder then. You're watching 1 frame links in this video being done in the clutch. Those tight links have been completely removed in modern Street Fighter outside of very specific situations. No B&B combos have 1 frame links.
Yeah FGs have become a game for honers rather than innovators. I was and still am innovator at heart. I'm far better at dynamically adapting and exploring new strats than I am at memorizing and honing already optimized execution. I was a terror of the arcade back in the day, one of the very top players if not the top player early on, but as the years went on knowledge and tech spread and the games were basically solved. This was particularly true once the internet rose to prominence and it was those who could study and hone their execution to perfection that were at the very top. I was still very good, but the days of being the best were behind me. I imagine if I had been to proper regional tournaments I would have had my ass handed to me.
Yes looks like it is SF2 CE. Me and my nephews would have matches like. Ken was my best guy usually and my one nephew was amazing with E.Honda. I liked Guile but he was difficult to use for me, he got nerfed I think in the CE version, but if you could get someone cornered with Guile with quick punches and charging a flash kick at the same time, you could win.
Yeah, SF2 and Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 tournaments, were insane and super hardcore back then. Those days were the golden age, of both Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter.👍😄
I was VF back then and it was indeed super hardcore. Without the internet you had no way to know more than you were exposed to at your arcade or arcades. I went to a tournament in NYC and got Neo'd so hard, I didn't even conceptually know what my opponent was doing. I was a decent player but I was playing the game. He was playing the code of the game. There was a lot of mystery in games back then. It ruled.
@@richdixon Yeah, that's one thing people who grew up with the internet don't really get. Back in the early 90s in the days of the arcade whatever tech you had you earned through blood sweat and tears through trial and error or if you were lucky some other kid at the arcade would let you in on a strat they figured out. In the very early days even something as simple as the super moves were not listed on the cabinets and you had to figure them out on your own.
@@kirbyjoe7484 Also earned through quarters. It was literally money on the line to keep playing. Every game was a skin game. Experimentation with strats takes on a different connotation when it costs you money. All that changed with PS2 of course, but we're talking 90-94 or so. It cost a lot of money to move up in a game.
This brings back so many good memories. My absolute favorite non arcade version of SF and I've been in a few tournaments back in the day as well. Yes, they were that good back then, too.
Bro, some of those players were like the AI on very hard with those input reads. 😂 Do you remember the movie in the early 90’s called the wizard? I used to watch that movie all the time, it was about a big Nintendo tournament in Los Angeles.
And there was no training mode, scarce learning means, and not big money prize. Maybe that's why those young guys could be seen as so powerful as today's top class adult players. In the early 90s there was no strong motivation source to master the gameplay to the point they are showing, but they were taking it very seriously.
I'm a old school 90s gamer that played SF2 when it first came out. This is the first time i watch a reaction to a game I grew up playing. This brought back so many memories and i loved your video reaction! Definitely you got a new sub! I hope you make more of these.
Love the retro review and classic footage. You really ought to do more of this content. I would love to see a deep dive old school Alex Valle VS Jesse Howard or ChoiBoi VS Truelson. The OG's don't get enough time in the light for the foundation they laid.
Really enjoyed this video, Justin! I'm 42 so it really brought back some memories for me from when I was about ten years old. I am from Barbados and there was one video game arcade at the time but it was always well stocked. - Double dragon, ninja turtles, dark stalkers you name it.
Most of these methods and frame breakdowns, what beats what used to all be in the magazines. EGM had maybe 7 or 8 REALLY good Street Fighter mechanics guides. Everything you guys do today, they did back in the day also. There were so many cool combos you could do that I don't ever really see anyone do today in these games.
Growing up in NYC during the rise of SF2, MK, NBA Jam etc. was a great time. I was 11/12 when SF2 dropped on Super Nintendo and that helped blow it up around here more. Every Deli in NYC for the most part, bowling ally, laudrymat, arcade, comic book shop had a SF2 arcade. Fun times being that age
Have you thought of making another video in this same line, about the classic A3 Daigo vs Valle matches? Or the old A2-A3 american tournaments? I dont remember those videos anymore, hopefully the quality is minimally usable for the channel video standards and streaming standards.
Watching old footage like this really makes me appreciate how we still have a relatively strong FGC with decent games out today. In a perfect world fighting games hold the big throne instead of FPS or MOBA stuff but I'll take what we have been getting.
I saw that video about a month ago, I think there's World Warriors tournament as well, same style. haha, I started playing for real on the SNES, I had all the (coins) in the world and learned all the characters through there.
As an adult I think it's amazing that you find this 1990's era tournament interesting 🤔. Yes there were competitions in the early days. I was in my prime being the youngest competitors 4 yrs old
The fact that they were using SNES pads. The whole time I was watching this video I felt their struggle, yet I am sure they would smoke me. Guys were OP.
omg that was one wild ride! thanks for showing us Justin! I love it to be back in fighting games....even if i suck XD. But holy.....i cant remember sf2 was that fast O__O
Back in the late 1990's I remember watching a Street Fighter VHS video from one of those asian countries. It was crazy. The stuff they were showing was insane. Moves and counters that I didn't even think was possible.
Darn cool vid! Makes me harken back to my high school days playing Hyper Fighting at the local billiards hall. When you mentioned tournaments in the US, I do recall GamePro magazine giving details of a Hyper Fighting tournament. Can't remember the names (hell, one of them may have been Alex Valle), but I recall the final two competitors using Guile and Vega (Claw.)
Using Tiger Knee thru a fireball is pretty good. But the one I like is doing a yoga fire to pass thru Ryu's fireball. But of course it has to be a fierce fireball or else it wont work.
This is beautiful to watch. I thought we had pretty good game in Texas until I walked into a Shinjuku arcade in the late 90's and was blown away by what they were doing.
I remember when Street Fighter 2 came to the arcade at the bowling alley near me. There would be a big ass crowd around the machine , like 100 people crowding around trying to watch the 2 people playing. Other people would line their quaters on the machine screen to say 'You got next" Winner stayed, loser walked. It was like a never ending tournament anytime the place was open. But it sucked as a beginner because you never got to practice by yourself. Then Mortal Kombat came out and the scene really exploded.
i remember back in the day, my buddy down the street had sfII when it came out. we both played and each of us would get slightly better than the other, and it would ping pong back n forth as to who is stronger. those days, i would go home and night and replay the combos he did in my head while i was in bed. the next day, i would have a counter ready for it and execute. those were the best days
Wow, This was amazing. I don't think Americans had tournaments of this magnitude back then, as far as I can remember. I was a teen back then as well and fighting games were huge but video games in general were looked down upon as a kids toy and very niche compared to how it is today.
Bro I fucking LOVE that you made this video. This is so classic. Seeing the same cast, and the same sweaty players we have today, this is amazing. THanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I would say, a lot of Prime Arcade Players back in the days would still cook a lot of players of today. They're just built differently and very very competitive. Just recently, I played one in a mall for nostalgia and there were young-lings having matches talking about being great that they visit other arcades to showcase their gaming skills. My competitive nature flared and I made them line up in a losing streak while I keep accumulating wins. I even heard one of them say "Holy sh*t, this guy is probably one of those legends." Hilariously, I wasn't even one of the greatest in my circle back in the days and could probably say I only have 10%~20% of the skills and reaction time of my fellows.
I remember a tournament in the US in Maryland called "Family Fun Fest", and they has SF2 Turbo SNES version running on a setup attacked to an 18 wheeler in Timonium Fairgrounds. I was there, and it was 1993. My cousin and I was were dominating until a few equally matched players showed up and got in line. My cousin ended up winning it all, and he got a small prize at the end, like a food coupon I think.
This reminds me of that one time I entered a SFII tournament at a McDonald's in Puerto Rico with exactly this game. My Sister, my cousin and my self joined forces. We even brought our own controllers (Cured). However, I end up battling my own cousin in the finals and beat him with Guile, he was a Ryu player. Then the person he defeated, won against me, with Ryu. I won second place and my sister 3rd with Guile. Sadly, I think my cousin could've won first place due to him being able to defeat the one who end up defeating me and winning the 1rst place. Ahhh the memories!!!
Hey man, could you do these pretty regularly? I love your commentary on older footage and mixing modern POV with OG tech! Would be cool to see stuff like SBO footage, Chinatown vids, FFA vids in SoCal, etc. Might be fun for you to scavenger hunt stuff like that too! Also I hope you read this comment: I never thought I'd amount to anything in FGC until the day I took a set from you in SF4:AE with my Dan and your Dictator at Round 1 in Puente Hills. You tried to cross-up psycho and I caught you with U1. The crowd boo'd thinking I mashed, but you did it again and I did it again. Crowd went nuts. That was the day you inspired me to really try, and I've made a lot of amazing friends and memories because of that even up to now. Wanted you to know you positively changed my life man! :]
About that kid mashing the pad mad crazy after doing Dhalsim's grab. If you mashed it crazy you got more hits, same for honda and blanka grab, also Balrog
why is it i was alive back then but this still feels like someone just discovered some ancient fighting technique scrolls 😅 this was really fun to watch and reminded me of the times i would playing SF2 on my Sega genesis where i had to press select to switch between punches and kicks. i still have bad habits because of that 😂
That Dhalsim is running some serious set play on this tournament. He's got a number of combos and sequences that are so dialed in, it's really really cool to see
1992... I was 8. I remember my first ever win in SFII was at a Buffalo Wild Wings at The Strip (Short Vine) in Cincinnati, OH. Across the street from there, we had a legendary multi level arcade called Jupiter. Seriously, Gen Z, we had phuck'n fun during the 90s.
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We were really good. Pre EVO. PRE MONEY PUZZLE EXCHANGER
why walk backwards? because you could in SF2turbo with honda
also people knew how to play because of: paying with friends, playing in arcades, reading gaming magazines. there was also a phoneline in my country from Nintendo and you could ask them to reveal tricks and secrets
When your good yoir good. 7yrs ahead idk aboit that. Your darn right us old skool players were 7n a different levels in all these fighting games.
The golden era of SF2! I was 11 years old in 1992, and every liquor store, laundromat, 7-11, burger joint, and small market had SF2. Shout out to all the OG World Warriors!!!
Edit: Man, such great stories!!! Thank you to everyone that shared. From 1991-1994, SF2 was LIFE!
Born 81. Same age as you. We had SF2 champion edition machine at our "depanneur" thats our corner store in Canada/Quebec. We also had tournament at the arcade near my school. I remember puttin our pile of quarters in line to save our turn.
Man thise were the days. Lol
I remember those days as well. I was 11/12 in 1992. Most of my fighting games were played at gas stations and laundromats. But we did have a cool arcade in Upland California where I grew up. It was called family fun center and there was a place called bullwinkles right next to it that kinda had an arcade too but it was mostly rides and Chuck E. Cheese type games
80 here and it was so much better back then. grew up in southern cali in the valley. i used to walk for miles to play this game at shakeys or 7/11
@@chiarosuburekeni9325I went to an arcade in Upland when SF4 came out called James Games. Played SF2 at the meat market liquor store back in 92.
Donut shops too, I lived in Hollywood at the time and it was impossible not to go a day without seeing an SF2 cab somewhere lol
I’m 48 and I was there at Sunnyvale Golfland in like 91,92 when Capcom USA was still HQed in Santa Clara and rolled out SF2 Championship Edition cabinet. We had all our tokens lined up on the cabinet and there were at least 20 of us. It blew us away that we could play the bosses and have mirror matches. I ended up being the coordinator keeping track of who was next up. That ended up getting me a job at Golfland tha5 year. Real fond memories of the ‘early times’ from an old guy.
I grew up down the street from there actually near vallco you have a few years on me but I went up there to play as a kid. Went on to play mvc2 CVS 2 we always looked up to you guys 😂😂 good times up there just a bunch of ticket games now yeah I remembered capcom being in santa clara damnn bro taking me back
Golfland Milpitas was my HQ during that time period.
i just played some golf there the other day! i wanted to go to laserquest w my boy, but it actually closed....
i was 10 old enough to get the hype and was it amazing living that time till 1999 when the hype slowed down. street fighter 4 made some noise though when it came out. sf2 hyper fighting is my favourite(arcade version not snes)
Im 35 and golfland was the spot. So many good times at that arcade. Ill never forget when i got stomped by this dude using hugo on me. He beat me at least 15 straight times. I was crushed n couldnt take another loss after the 15th time😂
I'm 43 and a native New Yorker. I was 10 back in 1991 when my local bodega just got in Street Fighter 2: WORLD WARRIOR. The following year, in the summer of 1992, every bodega, pizzeria, laundromat, and arcade had Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition. There used to be at least 20 of us huddled in the back of the store around the arcade cabinet. Man, the good old days. What a time to be alive!
Here in Mexico we had them Arcade cabinets in every chemist's, convenience store, greengrocer´s... hell, there were houses who would put them outside their homes and bring them back in at 11 p.m. I remember walking to places to find new challengers. I would be walking by a place and start hearing the Dhalsim stage track and that was a game on for me. I couldn't believe it when I saw for the first time Champion Edition, I was mesmerized, being able to pick Boxer was my dream and bummer he was so nerfed compare to World Warriors, but it was fun still, a challenge. Good times to be a gamer.
Yo naci en el mero 90 y a mi me toco ya cuando SF estaba comenzando el "declive" por el 96 ya veias casi puro kof y no tanto SF... que chingon eso de que en las casas sacaran maquinas arcades!
Brazil same thing.
Cierto ! En cada esquina había una maquina de SF o KOF.. por eso los mexicanos estamos perros pa los juegos de pelea , puro abuget !
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Hah, your story reminds me of the days in Japan when small family stores would setup Famicoms in their shop (keep in mind this is basically a house) and charge like 10 yen for 10 minutes of play. Good times.
The guy who won this tourney is Nakano Sagat who still plays today, mainly ST. He was a CEO at few years ago.
That's hype as hell, thanks for sharing
Nakano Sagat? Sagat is not a Japanese name man
@RogerCollectz that his gamer tag dummy
@@RogerCollectzbruh 💀
@@RogerCollectz LMAOOOO
I remember doing a KoF 95 Tournament in an arcade once. There was about 25 entrants and one machine. It took FOREVER and they would show it on the big screen in the arcade using video cameras so people could see. It was fun though. I won a few KoF tournaments back then.
What was the winning set of characters ? I used play a lot kof95 (arcade and psx version)
@@cedrickojet3626probably clark + something. He could Grab you on wake up
We had that set up for a cvs2 tourney.
People don't realize how tough we had it back then, at the same time how fun it was. We basically had to go to the arcades to figure out traps, practice, etc. We had no online play, we had no frame data to go off of. It was we had to throw 50 cents into the arcade and get better.
And deal with random damage and random stun values, and cheating CPU, etc
I remember throwing money into player 2 so I could practice the special moves lol.
You never used the tokens at the arcades... usually you either had to buy them off the counter or wait till the guy with the token holder and fanny pack comes around
What kinda machine was charging 50 cents 30 years ago?
Unless you were paying for both slots.
That would be like charging $1.25 now.
@@1stCallipostlemall arcades and everywhere else charged 50 cents per arcade game unless you went to some fancy place with tokens
I'm in junior high again...JWong you just brought me back to the arcade down the street..and the SF tourneys in the school library at lunch hour. It turned the bullies on the schoolyard to your friends in the arcade. We all got good with the Gamepro guides. Much love homie.
First time I played SF2, a cousin brought it over from Blockbuster video as a rental. Dhalsim's elephants trumpeting and Guile's stage music were iconic walking into an arcade. Those were the days.
Bear in mind that this tournament was about 40 days after the release on Snes.
Oh yeh- and this was before training mode was a thing lol
and they didn't have all the info on the internet and gameplays accesible for people to study, now we even have apps where people can study games frame by frame. Its a different world.
Back in those days, all we had for training mode was: go to versus mode by yourself and pick a dummy character.
@@daniel79tjI still remember how hard of a time I had just learning how to throw a damn hadouken! But I kept training because I wanted to beat my cousin that badly!
Training mode was just using the second controller to pick a punching bag lol
Training Mode was "Put pennies in and play again sucker" 😂😂😂
I believe that these folks learned combos watching one of those official guide VHS tapes, which used to be very common in Japan. Even Gradius had a strategy guide released on VHS
That goes extremely hard
Yeah, but you didnt mention magazines (or written guides in general), that are naturally much more common and accessible even.
@@carlosaugusto9821 ikr! Most of these tapes were released alongside magazines as a gift. I remember when a brazilian magazine released an issue with the Fatal Fury movie as a gift
There was tons of tech sharing in the arcade as well. Guarantee all of these kids were playing there regularly.
Arcades. You wouldn’t believe the amount of people who spent every waking moment in arcades back in the early 90s.
the commentary is absolutely wild. sure I can't understand it but they're clearly so detailed about it, you'd think it was over a modern game. I hope a lot of these guys are still in it.
This is a really fun idea. Gotta show these youths that the OG FGC could still bring the hype.
This tournament is legit just as exciting and fun as any evo tournament today
More exciting because it's not just two combos and the rounds are over like SF6.
Helps that theres no 50 years of ad breaks between matches
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More of this please! There’s a godlike tape of an early KOF (95 or 96) tournament that happened in a mall and most of the contestants cosplayed. I wish I could find it again.
I used to kick ass in KOF with Heidern, Clark and Ralf👊🏼👊🏼
Dude you gotta find that video
It was 95, Saikyo Oza Sodatsu Hen. I remember seeing it before too.
@@GuntanksInSpace Well done! You did remember it! And I was able to hunt it down again! ruclips.net/video/YvSko09UQFQ/видео.htmlsi=w1cAVbNzCOD2ribt
This is my all-time favorite video you done bro keep it up Jay I'm really happy that you're showing off this amazing video especially because this tournament is the foundation to the original timeline of tournaments A lot of people don't remember that which is a shame but thank you for sharing this amazing video bro keep up the great work Jay
Born in '77 here - SFII became competative very quick - even before the SNES home version came out. Every arcade, even the small one at the mall I went to, would have SFII on a large projection TV with the pedestal controls up front for weekend tournaments. Once the SNES version came out, people could practice at home and then bring the skills back to the arcade.
Then the SNES version became the standard when the Arcades started jacking up the cost to play (from 25 to 75 cents in a span of a month).
Tiger knee past a fireball mixed with the upper cuts, plus the low tiger (fireball whatever) made Sagat god like in this game. My arcade had competition this tough.
We would play like this on the SNES version as well, it was easier to pull off moves and combos with the controller over the arcade stick.
This was the time when Tiger Knee command was ⬇️➡️↗️➕🦶
??? I performed them same as shoryuken, and It worked lmao
It was hard to do btw.
My thumbs still hurt🤣😫
@@asherdgravez8552 Dude we had blisters. Those snes arrows were HARD! Lol
Missing one more direction I think.
I am a OLD man I started playing Street Fighter in 1987 /88 and I’m still playing now at 62 and I’m a ok Kimberly player
I wish I can have your energy when I am at your age.
Now that's a real og. I won't take anyone else seriously calling themselves an og.
That is super cool ! Keep on gaming 👊
@@cheeks_of_the_boreal_valley thanks 🙏 I will continue to play and I’m working hard to make my Kimberly a master, it’s tough, getting use to drive rush tactics and trying to figure out frame rates but I’m slowly getting better at it.
That is awesome! You will reach master rank!
that venue looks like the Ryogoku Kokugikan, where all the grand sumo tournaments are held. what a cool venue for a tournament! can't be 100% sure from the footage, but it sure looks like it. (i watch a lot of sumo.)
The name boards at the beginning were definitely Ryogoku
I recognize it because New Japan Pro Wrestling also do shows there. Not big into sumo but love NJPW.
One of the conditions for hosting it there was they weren't allowed to use Honda in the promo art because they thought the kabuki facepaint was disrespectful or something.
I lived in Japan @ this time, and I've been telling people for decades that they had tournaments like this everywhere there. Even for a time, on-base, there were small tournaments every single weekend until Super Street Fighter 2 came out
I been playing tournaments since 1990...... EGM was the go-to magazine to find out about combos. The rest was up to you!
No lies about EGM (Electronic Gaming Monthly) being the resource.
Street Fighter 2 was released in 1991. In what kind of tournaments did you participate in 1990?
After EGM, the next magazine to grab was GamePro
@@stardustanimation7501 PREACH
Man, EGM vs. Gamepro. Street fighter vs. Mortal Kombat. Sega vs. Nintendo. Sonic vs. Mario. Dan vs. Dave. Pro Action Replay vs Game Genie. WWF vs WCW. Man I miss my childhood.
"How good were fighting game players back in the day?"
I was there. We had godlike footsies because that's all there was and complained about the kids on our lawn when long combos became a thing.
Accurate. To this day I still play grapplers in any game that isn't SamSho because I've just never cared to get on the extended combo train.
"that's all there was" bro sf2 is one of the most degenerate games ever made. youre not going to tell me boxer throw loops or claw loops were honest.
@@BananaHace well no one crying on this era cause of those loops unlike these days 😂😂
@@BananaHace they were, you had to get in on the cheap fireball zoning piece of monkey trash players and their safe on block invincible reversals/
@@adriankheyon Well no shit sf2 and maybe some neo-geo fighting games was all that was relevant back in those days, ofc there wouldn't be much to bitch about, compared to now where fighting games actually have to be properly designed and tested rather than simply dropping the buggiest mess in world at full price and calling it a day.
I feel like there's just different skill sets now: adaptation was more important 'back then' because there was so much you hadnt seen and you never knew what your competitor was capable of until you played them.
I think now more studying, frame data , match footage etc . . every top player can be scouted and gameplanned. So much work involved.
Execution was much harder then. You're watching 1 frame links in this video being done in the clutch.
Those tight links have been completely removed in modern Street Fighter outside of very specific situations. No B&B combos have 1 frame links.
Facts! Very well said
Yeah FGs have become a game for honers rather than innovators. I was and still am innovator at heart. I'm far better at dynamically adapting and exploring new strats than I am at memorizing and honing already optimized execution. I was a terror of the arcade back in the day, one of the very top players if not the top player early on, but as the years went on knowledge and tech spread and the games were basically solved.
This was particularly true once the internet rose to prominence and it was those who could study and hone their execution to perfection that were at the very top. I was still very good, but the days of being the best were behind me. I imagine if I had been to proper regional tournaments I would have had my ass handed to me.
I watch these vids for nostalgia. It is so much the 90s. Glad you give them attention.
these OG boys doing it on super famicom with a d-pad!
Yes looks like it is SF2 CE. Me and my nephews would have matches like. Ken was my best guy usually and my one nephew was amazing with E.Honda. I liked Guile but he was difficult to use for me, he got nerfed I think in the CE version, but if you could get someone cornered with Guile with quick punches and charging a flash kick at the same time, you could win.
@@buckjones4901 It's Street Fighter 2 Turbo.
It was before "stick" scene cred on social media.
Honestly, Dpad is better than analogue stick by a country mile.
And stick was hardly an option (and I still personally hate it)
This same Nakano Sagat won the turbo side tournament at Evo2019 and also Evo japan 2020. There were a few articles in Japan on it when it happened.
OG champion
Yeah, SF2 and Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 tournaments, were insane and super hardcore back then. Those days were the golden age, of both Street Fighter and Virtua Fighter.👍😄
I was VF back then and it was indeed super hardcore. Without the internet you had no way to know more than you were exposed to at your arcade or arcades. I went to a tournament in NYC and got Neo'd so hard, I didn't even conceptually know what my opponent was doing. I was a decent player but I was playing the game. He was playing the code of the game. There was a lot of mystery in games back then. It ruled.
@@richdixon Yeah, that's one thing people who grew up with the internet don't really get. Back in the early 90s in the days of the arcade whatever tech you had you earned through blood sweat and tears through trial and error or if you were lucky some other kid at the arcade would let you in on a strat they figured out. In the very early days even something as simple as the super moves were not listed on the cabinets and you had to figure them out on your own.
@@kirbyjoe7484 Also earned through quarters. It was literally money on the line to keep playing. Every game was a skin game. Experimentation with strats takes on a different connotation when it costs you money. All that changed with PS2 of course, but we're talking 90-94 or so. It cost a lot of money to move up in a game.
This brings back so many good memories. My absolute favorite non arcade version of SF and I've been in a few tournaments back in the day as well. Yes, they were that good back then, too.
Bro, some of those players were like the AI on very hard with those input reads. 😂
Do you remember the movie in the early 90’s called the wizard? I used to watch that movie all the time, it was about a big Nintendo tournament in Los Angeles.
And there was no training mode, scarce learning means, and not big money prize. Maybe that's why those young guys could be seen as so powerful as today's top class adult players. In the early 90s there was no strong motivation source to master the gameplay to the point they are showing, but they were taking it very seriously.
I love the power glove.
It's so bad.
better than the jokers winning tournaments these days. ez cheap characters like blank a
@@NightmareSnake bro, that was one of the best lines in cinema history 😂
no kidding 17:31 that ryu had dark souls player reflexes and blocked it
I'm a old school 90s gamer that played SF2 when it first came out. This is the first time i watch a reaction to a game I grew up playing. This brought back so many memories and i loved your video reaction! Definitely you got a new sub! I hope you make more of these.
Love the retro review and classic footage. You really ought to do more of this content. I would love to see a deep dive old school Alex Valle VS Jesse Howard or ChoiBoi VS Truelson. The OG's don't get enough time in the light for the foundation they laid.
dang its crazy to see how some things are different and how somethings stayed the same in Street Fighter 2.
Yes, he was that same Nakano. And also won another SF2 tourney around 2019 I believe.
OG champion
These Sagats are WILD!
Man, those kids were solid. Never seen anyone play like that on the SNES! Curious how many names are still recognizable today.
I'm 45, been playing SF since the day it came out.
Still playing now with SF6.
What was your peak rank in sf4 and sf5?
if I'm not mistaken this was around the same time that Tomo Ohira and Mike Watson were running things in the U.S.
It is.
It was. But Tomo Ohira was the best in America. I saw Tomo beat Mike almost every time.
Was tomo really that good? He's like a mythical legend lol. Did he ever play choi or valle back then??
@@ryu-ken he was ahead of his time. Tomo was the best. I have seen him in many tournaments at world finest.
Really enjoyed this video, Justin! I'm 42 so it really brought back some memories for me from when I was about ten years old. I am from Barbados and there was one video game arcade at the time but it was always well stocked. - Double dragon, ninja turtles, dark stalkers you name it.
now that I'm actually learning the ins and outs, to see all this tech is amazing
Excellent upload thanks Justin! Respect to OG'S always...
Most of these methods and frame breakdowns, what beats what used to all be in the magazines. EGM had maybe 7 or 8 REALLY good Street Fighter mechanics guides. Everything you guys do today, they did back in the day also. There were so many cool combos you could do that I don't ever really see anyone do today in these games.
Growing up in NYC during the rise of SF2, MK, NBA Jam etc. was a great time. I was 11/12 when SF2 dropped on Super Nintendo and that helped blow it up around here more. Every Deli in NYC for the most part, bowling ally, laudrymat, arcade, comic book shop had a SF2 arcade. Fun times being that age
This is one of your best videos yet man, loved seeing this blast from the past!
12:24 Justin's face after the Daigo parry.
It's an amazing coincidence that this was also from a Chun Li defeated by Ken.
Have you thought of making another video in this same line, about the classic A3 Daigo vs Valle matches? Or the old A2-A3 american tournaments? I dont remember those videos anymore, hopefully the quality is minimally usable for the channel video standards and streaming standards.
Watching old footage like this really makes me appreciate how we still have a relatively strong FGC with decent games out today. In a perfect world fighting games hold the big throne instead of FPS or MOBA stuff but I'll take what we have been getting.
I saw that video about a month ago, I think there's World Warriors tournament as well, same style. haha, I started playing for real on the SNES, I had all the (coins) in the world and learned all the characters through there.
I'm really enjoying this retro content. They've been among my favorite vids from you.
I love footage from this era of fighting games!
I remember playing in a UMK3 tournament in 1997. That's the earliest I can remember a fighting game tournament event being held.
maybe it's time for you and a guest to play some of the SNES/SFC versions on stream.
As an adult I think it's amazing that you find this 1990's era tournament interesting 🤔. Yes there were competitions in the early days. I was in my prime being the youngest competitors 4 yrs old
The fact that they were using SNES pads. The whole time I was watching this video I felt their struggle, yet I am sure they would smoke me. Guys were OP.
omg that was one wild ride! thanks for showing us Justin! I love it to be back in fighting games....even if i suck XD. But holy.....i cant remember sf2 was that fast O__O
Back in the late 1990's I remember watching a Street Fighter VHS video from one of those asian countries. It was crazy. The stuff they were showing was insane. Moves and counters that I didn't even think was possible.
Darn cool vid! Makes me harken back to my high school days playing Hyper Fighting at the local billiards hall.
When you mentioned tournaments in the US, I do recall GamePro magazine giving details of a Hyper Fighting tournament. Can't remember the names (hell, one of them may have been Alex Valle), but I recall the final two competitors using Guile and Vega (Claw.)
Using Tiger Knee thru a fireball is pretty good. But the one I like is doing a yoga fire to pass thru Ryu's fireball. But of course it has to be a fierce fireball or else it wont work.
Thanks!
the most amazing thing is, they did all that with such small controller
That was awesome. More of this please!
I"m still playing, have a Ken master rank in SF6 and i'm an original SF1 player bro!!
This is beautiful to watch. I thought we had pretty good game in Texas until I walked into a Shinjuku arcade in the late 90's and was blown away by what they were doing.
How have we regressed going forward in 2024. The level here is insane!
I remember when Street Fighter 2 came to the arcade at the bowling alley near me. There would be a big ass crowd around the machine , like 100 people crowding around trying to watch the 2 people playing. Other people would line their quaters on the machine screen to say 'You got next" Winner stayed, loser walked. It was like a never ending tournament anytime the place was open. But it sucked as a beginner because you never got to practice by yourself. Then Mortal Kombat came out and the scene really exploded.
Those old days tournaments are always fun to watch, the magic of those will stay there forever.
This video plus your commentary/ analysis be godlike. Hope you do more of it maybe for other games like co-op cup third strike 🙏
i think this was more enjoyable to watch than S1 SF6 with all them lukes
Seeing this old tournament footage reminds me of Hi-Score Girl. What a sick anime.
The winner of this tournament would go on to win Super Turbo at EVO 2019. Full circle.
Sounds like a fairytale ending much respect 😎🙏
The fighting game revolution and the arcade comeback it caused was an incredible time to grow up.
love ur content Justin, keep it up!
In the title screen, if you press left or right you can change the game speed. This also works in the snes version of Super SF2
This video literally made my day. Thanks for this Justin!! I was 18 when his game came out….how is that possible?!?
i remember back in the day, my buddy down the street had sfII when it came out. we both played and each of us would get slightly better than the other, and it would ping pong back n forth as to who is stronger. those days, i would go home and night and replay the combos he did in my head while i was in bed. the next day, i would have a counter ready for it and execute. those were the best days
Wow, This was amazing. I don't think Americans had tournaments of this magnitude back then, as far as I can remember. I was a teen back then as well and fighting games were huge but video games in general were looked down upon as a kids toy and very niche compared to how it is today.
Don't know about you but I was in the arcades, so was everybody that was a badass, did u get invited?
Back in the UK we had a show called Games Master. They had these types of tournaments every week and most of the gamers were talented.
I can believe there was tournaments in 1993 and 1994 back to back actually. 🤣
From 1991-1994 SF2 was LIFE!!! 😆
@@TheMicahwitz any blockbusters video game tournaments?
Best to ever do it.. under the brightest LED lights ...Hadouken!! 💪🏽
Bro I fucking LOVE that you made this video. This is so classic. Seeing the same cast, and the same sweaty players we have today, this is amazing. THanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I would say, a lot of Prime Arcade Players back in the days would still cook a lot of players of today. They're just built differently and very very competitive. Just recently, I played one in a mall for nostalgia and there were young-lings having matches talking about being great that they visit other arcades to showcase their gaming skills. My competitive nature flared and I made them line up in a losing streak while I keep accumulating wins. I even heard one of them say "Holy sh*t, this guy is probably one of those legends."
Hilariously, I wasn't even one of the greatest in my circle back in the days and could probably say I only have 10%~20% of the skills and reaction time of my fellows.
I remember a tournament in the US in Maryland called "Family Fun Fest", and they has SF2 Turbo SNES version running on a setup attacked to an 18 wheeler in Timonium Fairgrounds. I was there, and it was 1993. My cousin and I was were dominating until a few equally matched players showed up and got in line. My cousin ended up winning it all, and he got a small prize at the end, like a food coupon I think.
My thumbs got ptsd after watching that mashout! 😂 That snes D-pad shredded my thumb back in the day 😫
At that year I could barely do a fireball motion... These people were on fire.
This reminds me of that one time I entered a SFII tournament at a McDonald's in Puerto Rico with exactly this game. My Sister, my cousin and my self joined forces. We even brought our own controllers (Cured). However, I end up battling my own cousin in the finals and beat him with Guile, he was a Ryu player. Then the person he defeated, won against me, with Ryu. I won second place and my sister 3rd with Guile. Sadly, I think my cousin could've won first place due to him being able to defeat the one who end up defeating me and winning the 1rst place.
Ahhh the memories!!!
Them throwing hadoukens to see who's fingers start hurting first on those sness buttons
How good were they? Disgustingly good, like they always have been. God help you if you bump into one of them in the arcade.
I remember having sf2 tournament in my highschool about 30 years ago lol those were good times
Let's see, in 93' I was only 5. See's the 1:27 mark, Oh damn they got down LIKE THAT in 93'? That guy would beat my ass in SF 2 today.
Hey man, could you do these pretty regularly? I love your commentary on older footage and mixing modern POV with OG tech! Would be cool to see stuff like SBO footage, Chinatown vids, FFA vids in SoCal, etc. Might be fun for you to scavenger hunt stuff like that too!
Also I hope you read this comment: I never thought I'd amount to anything in FGC until the day I took a set from you in SF4:AE with my Dan and your Dictator at Round 1 in Puente Hills. You tried to cross-up psycho and I caught you with U1. The crowd boo'd thinking I mashed, but you did it again and I did it again. Crowd went nuts. That was the day you inspired me to really try, and I've made a lot of amazing friends and memories because of that even up to now. Wanted you to know you positively changed my life man! :]
About that kid mashing the pad mad crazy after doing Dhalsim's grab. If you mashed it crazy you got more hits, same for honda and blanka grab, also Balrog
why is it i was alive back then but this still feels like someone just discovered some ancient fighting technique scrolls 😅
this was really fun to watch and reminded me of the times i would playing SF2 on my Sega genesis where i had to press select to switch between punches and kicks. i still have bad habits because of that 😂
Justin bro, is C.Wong your little brother? this year is evo 37 20 anniversary, looking forward to it! btw, Lets' Goooo Jussstttinnnn!!!!
That Dhalsim is running some serious set play on this tournament. He's got a number of combos and sequences that are so dialed in, it's really really cool to see
We must learn from these old gods
How cool is it that every match in this tournament was more fun than anything i've have seen from SF6 😂😂
I was there. It was legit feast or famine...famine being hold the L while you wait in line for another 25 mins to play.
I played sf2 in 1993 and i still play it until now with a snes controller. I'm also learning sf6.
1992... I was 8. I remember my first ever win in SFII was at a Buffalo Wild Wings at The Strip (Short Vine) in Cincinnati, OH. Across the street from there, we had a legendary multi level arcade called Jupiter. Seriously, Gen Z, we had phuck'n fun during the 90s.