Instax Square Twin Lens Reflex | InstantFlex TL70+
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2023
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I was expecting a $1200 price do when you said, “$699”, I’m all over this! Thanks for the review.
And I’m much happier with disposable AAs vs yet another rechargeable that will die in a few years and may not be user swappable.
Use rechargeable AA batteries.
That's a fair point on the battery! Hopefully this one will last many years under good care.
I love instant film cameras. They give you that instant gratification and every shot has a real tangible feeling of value. It really makes you slow down and 'think' about the shot you are taking. I use instax for wedding photography as a 3rd camera to provide personal keepsakes of their wedding day. I had clients tell me that they look at the film shots every day on their desks, or on their fridge. Even though their package came with prints, they loved the personification of the instants.
I used to love using instant film on weddings as well! Something special about that, those tangible prints they get to take home that day. The groom finding them in his jacket pocket at the end of the night. Fun stuff!
Wow the photos you showed are crystal clear
Interesting to see this coming out around the same time as Polaroid's I-2. They are similar in price, it will be interesting to see how they stack up against one another.
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No, Matt! No internal non-replaceable battery, no thank you! You’re a professional photographer, how can you even suggest that? 🤣
Good review Matt… had mine now a few months and have to say it’s Mints best camera to date
Good and clear review. Thanks
love the POV shot at 1:13
Thanks brother!
Thank you!
wow.. manual exposure is very nice... I will keep eye on website.
Nice. Been waiting for this one after returning the TL70 because the mini film is just, well, too mini for the price of that camera. I like the Instax Mini Evo for that and it's way cheaper. Square is another story. I currently have the SQ6 and SQ10 for my Square cameras, hated the Diana IS. Would have liked to see more photos from this camera, it's on my short list.
I totally get that. Instax Mini was fun for awhile, but it's definitely the least used instant film out of all that I've shot. The size is tough, but I've been enjoying Square since they released it.
Wonder how much work it’d take them to do a film version. I’m sure there’d be a market for a new 120 film camera in this style.
Just buy a yashica for a half or third of the price!
@@shuddercount6278Totally agree and a lot already do that but it would be nice to have something new to the market as well.
That would be interesting. Though I think their whole focus is only on instant film. At least at the moment.
@@shuddercount6278 not a brand new one!
Pentax was going to introduce a new film SLR. When they got started on the project, they realized that it was simply too expensive to make a new film SLR so they shifted to making a point and shoot with a fix lens. They had to hire retired engineers just to design a film winding mechanism. Chances are its going to hit the market at around $500. I presume that Pentax has realized that given the trend, we're going to run out of working, used film cameras. In Los Angeles, posting for used film cameras are down about 90% over the last decade. Medium format cameras are extremely scarce.
How do you compensate for the filters when the meter is below the lens?
Awesome video Matt. I'll definitely be getting one of these. Did you try it with Instax monochrome film? I much prefer it to the color stuff you showed in this video.
I have one TL 70 Plus to sell
if you had to pick, would you do the instantflex or a mamiya rz/rb with an instax back?
Who do you use to print your photo books? Thanks 🙏🏽
To anyone thinking about getting this camera, maybe hold off until v2 if they every make it. It has been so wildly hit or miss for me. The color cast is very blue/cold, the auto settings are almost always overexposed, a lot of the time the shutter button just won't fire and I'll have to try 2 or 3 times, the flash doesn't seem to work well with auto modes and is WAY too powerful for anything somewhat close, this thing flares super easily and most of my shots are bad. I wanted to return it but customer service never responded to me. The only good thing about this camera imo is the lens is sharp and it's not a rangefinder. For context, I have a RF70 which I love and get much better results from, despite the viewfinder being hot garbage.
How is the distortion on the lens? I have the RF70 and I never liked how bad the barrel distortion is at wider apertures
@@danielrock4144 not much at all, if anything looks almost slightly pincushioned on a few shots. I can't emphasize enough how few shots come out correct on the TL70+, it's like a 50-70% failure rate with auto settings. Manual with my lightmeter works better but the color cast and flaring can ruin even those. I really love my RF70 but the rangefinder is atrocious and f5.6 is basically unusable. If they made a v2 that fixed those problems it would be my one and only instant camera. Honestly my SQ6 looks better than the TL70+
That's really unfortunate to hear. Would you mind sharing your email address that I can try to pass onto MiNT? They should have gotten back to you, if I can help I'd like to. It seems like there might be an issue with your unit, I haven't had the issues you've mentioned. Feel free to shoot me an email through my site if you'd rather not share your email here.
While I believe these issues are possible, Auto mode is tricky with these cameras, and the units sold so far have been “early bird” units, I have a hard time believing Mint support service ignored your messages. In my experience, they have always responded promptly. I hope you can get this resolved
I'd love to buy one for fun but you're right that cost is really prohibitive.
Please help me out: Does the TL70+ have a pc-socket or some other jack to connect a sync-cable for external flashes?
Matt, when changing AA batteries with film still in the camera does it lose the memory of the frame counter?
It does not.
How do you find the build quality? I've been waiting for an instax camera like this, but I hesitate to purchase something plastic at this price point.
Both the TL70 and RF70 are top notch in every way. I would assume this is built just as well as the TL70.
I fully get that! A friend of mine has wondered the same thing, so I actually just sent the camera to him to borrow for a bit and see how he likes it. Despite the plastic body, it feels great to use.
i wish it was 120 use a weston light meter
What film is available for your SX-70? Can you use instax
Only Polaroid film
It's called SX-70 film. They still make it you can find it online and in camera shops.
Only Polaroid SX-70 film directly from Polaroid. Instax is a different size and format so it's incompatible.
For 700 bucks they really could have put an f2.8 lens on it. It’s not like there aren’t enough old TLR lens designs out there for which the patens have expired.
Instax Square film is medium format, so is the Mini actually. You dont need f/2.8 You get plenty shallow DOF at f/5.6 and the film is ISO 800, so you dont need that much light. Besides, there isn't an ND filter powerful enough to allow you to shoot this thing at f/2.8
@@michaelbell75 Rollei TLRs are also square MF and they have an f2.8 lens meaning you can actually shoot in low light without a flash.
@@VariTimo Yes but as I said, Instax film is ISO 800. You don’t need f/2.8 and all your shots in any kind of sun would be blown out
An f/2.8 lens with Instax film being 800 speed would be pretty tough to use unless you're exclusively shooting indoors or under very low light. Even with the ND filters.
@@michaelbell75 I guess you don’t shoot a lot of film in low light. Even f2.8 at 800 ISO with the limited dynamic range of Instax film is pushing it.
I'm hoping to get one of these soon 🫠🙏
I held off on the last model in hopes for this, the bigger square format 😍
try it before you buy it
@@shuddercount6278 How?
only pro of this camera the times that can be adjusted manually
I think there's more to it than that, but to each their own.
Still waiting on Fuji or Impossible to make a decent manual rangefinder camera for their widely popular instant films. Any day now...
Fuji makes the vast majority of their money off the mini cameras. The Mini Evo is their best selling camera ever. They have even moved away from more manual control cameras to fully auto. It’s clear their sales indicate people have little to no interest in fully manual Instax cameras, much less a RF. I’d just be happy with a new Wide camera. Only been 9 years now…
@@michaelbell75 Yeah, they're focused on whatever junk makes money. It's just maddening because how hard would it be to adapt an existing MF RF design into an instax back? Or even an instax back for existing OOP Fuji cameras.
X series was all about profiting off of a new lens system, and incremental updates and the disposables and instax is cashing in on trends. I can't stand the way Fuji behave. At least Impossible have an excuse with their limited resources.
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Still holding out hope that Fuji build a more pro version of the instax wide
Been waiting many years for something like that..
Bought this and tested mine for a couple shots (2 packs). I'll say it's in the meh category of purchase for me, the lens doesn't exactly help with anything, as instax itself is pretty much limited in terms of quality (color reproduction, dynamic range, etc). The body build itself is nothing to write home about (very plasticky), the knob wheel doesn't feel great (wiggle quite a bit). On the positive side, the viewfinder is ok and quite bright. The close up lens does help to literally close up, but now you only have 20-35cm of focus distance. anything out of those range would be out of focus.
From my tests, several pictures resulted in partial development (half part not developed, jury still out whether due to film or really due to cam). Several has some weird spot (suspect uneven development, still can't say whether it's the film or cam). Light meter is a hit/miss on several scenes where it's not evenly lit.
But really, if you're looking solely because you like instant films, then just stick with the usual offerings like Fuji Evo and such. If you want it because of TLR, then just buy an old TLR. $699 in my opinion is simply not justifiable looking at this level of quality other than for flexing purposes.
I've got one to sell. Uses a few times
$700? Awww damn... and it's basically 900 with taxes when shipping to EU. That's one tough decision. Wish instax wasn't so "party-camera focused" and made one with at least a glass lens.
It's definitely a big investment for that format. I'm a little surprised that Fuji hasn't offered something with manual features, glass lens, etc... but only a little surprised.
@@mattdayphoto yeah same here. I use an Instax SQ6 and, once mastered, it is a great camera but with many shortcomings. Some people adapt it as a instax back for RB67 though ;)
i has the first tl 70, for mini instax film,whit short circuit and manual focus that not worked and folding wiefinder that stuck and flash that worked only when want; company give me the tl 70 2.0;flash not has synchronized whit shutter and take vignetted or blank pictures;alwaya overexposed and terrible flares always unusable in full sun,and i bought after 350 $ 150 $for nd filter and unusable close up;the nd filter and close up can t be mounted both;nd filter avoid overexposure but take circular flare;whithout filter film solarize;sometimes shutter not return in position in the shot and was visible on the picture both whit blank of solarization;the retro was flimsy,and cassette film go out of position and to take shot whit open and reinsert film i lost 2 pictures;take a shot was a problem whit separate button that sometimes not work;batteries sometimes lost her position not make good contact;battery drain is terrible and batteries can be used only for a pack or 2 of film;in home pictures whit no flash are good but difficult to shot whit long exposure for under exposure and not sharp for slow shutter;a toy overpriced;i see on line good sharp photos and not flares on new tl 70 for square film but probably is a marketing site;shots are 100% real but probably 3 on 10 was ok,probably 7 on 10 was whit flares and exposure isuues,unfortunately are on the market a slr for square film and compact;make vignette vs tl 70 square not;tl 70 square is a dream and more easy to use vs mini but very ingombrante;mini 90 in a pocket,tl 70 big like rolleicord;my lomo square stay folded in a poket of jacket,tl 70 square is bulky like a mamya tlr c 330;also if costed 200 $ is very bulky for tiny square film less big of type 88 polacolor peel apart and sx 70 and 600 film;only instax wide in 2023 is big enough format;square also 600 film is tiny and totally whit no sense
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7..... hundred.... ugh...
I hear 33% I start doing Steiner math
I would say there's 8 and 1/3% chance of people understanding this reference.
I love using double a batteries especially if you a traveling.
I could see that advantage when traveling.
Another benefit to using AA batteries, future-proofing. If Fujifilm ever ceases support for this camera, the camera ceases to be useful at the point when replacement batteries are unobtainable. I can't imagine a future point when Energizer ceases to make AA batteries.
Nice camera, but ugly pictures. Little dynamic range, bad colors.
That’s mostly instax film. Had my TL70 plus a few months now and it’s a fun camera
Overpriced, better to get a Yashica real medium format camera than this