2020 Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel: Here's Everything You Need To Know From The Chief Engineer!
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- (www.TFLoffroad.com) The 3.0-liter EcoDiesel joins the Jeep Wrangler lineup for 2020, and we find out more about it in Utah from chief engineer Pete Milosavlevski!
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Roman got new sunglasses. how am I supposed to trust his opinion now.
Right on
Yeah I don’t who is this new guy called roman
@Righteous Hmm, what does that say about your cognitive abilities? From where I am sitting, they seem almost non-existent.
Soy Boy
I went to my dealership 2 weeks ago for the pre-order. I built a diesel Rubicon from the ground up, loaded and walked out at $59K. The estimated time of delivery was 6-8weeks. My dealer rep called me this morning and told me the production is slated for Nov 25. Takes a few days to produce the vehicle so their estimate to my doorstep is first week of December.
josh smith what state are you in?
Kim Hanthorn Texas.
I think your dealership is lying to you big time about that timing haha. One week from factory to your doorstep?? It’ll be at least a month if not more.
Riley Gallagher my wife’s special order took 10 days after ordering not diesel obviously maybe different
Riley Gallagher The wait is getting the production line ready. To actually create the vehicle only takes a couple days. Same for the train ride to Texas. If the gladiator is any indication those numbers seem solid.
I have the 3L eco diesel in my 2014 Grand Cherokee Summit. I LOVE this engine. Great fuel economy, tons of torque, tons of power, and I love it.
So basically this engine has already been tested and all these posters on here are whining for nothing
The FCA guy is right. There is a lot of difference between the old & new diesels. The old ones were reliable & ran forever, the new ones have an EGR / emissions system that chokes the life out of them and are nothing but maintenance headaches. FCA has a new government mandated recall right now for the EGR cooler on the gen-2 ecodiesels for coolant leaks & potentially catching fire, resulting in trucks burning to the ground. I sure hope FCA has addressed these issues with the gen-3 engine!!
Paul Ehlers I read on another video discribing the third gen ecodiesel still consists of the same issue problems as the last model just some of the major parts are bigger or built with different material , but the major part(camshaft) is still pressed, I’m not a mechanic but a mechanic who was familiar with the problems had commented and said that that was a Major problem so it’s just a matter of time til it has flaws like the old one. But of course you can delete it and all and take away the back lash, but hearing that a major component is pressed and not some kindof bolted ? Not sure how reliable that would be, that’s why I ordered a gladiator with 3.6 instead , rather than wait to have a mother eco diesel nightmare as I’ve read over and over again.
@@camberridgeoff-roading3822 The gen-3 hasn't been on the road in owners hands yet, so there isn't any track record for it at this point. I am a retired diesel mechanic and the pressed cam drive gear was a minor issue with the gen-2 Eco's. The big issues were crankshaft bottom end/bearing problems = blown engines and coolant leaks particularly with the EGR cooler. The government has made FCA issue a massive recall for the EGR cooler because they pose a fire hazard & there has been multiple trucks burn to the ground because of the EGR problems. The new gen-3 will have two EGR coolers to potentially go bad. The EPA has cracked down on the aftermarket tune & delete manufacturer's and at present there isn't any tunes available to do a delete even if you wanted to. Because of this there might not be a tune developed of the gen-3. FCA has dug themselves a pretty big hole due to the issues with the Gen-2 ecodiesel & the EPA required emission components that choke & kill the engine.
Anyone wanna take bets this thing blows up like the previous ecodiesels made by fiat?
Long Live my 12 valve cummins with the p pump none of that EPA stuff here
If you want a good solid diesel engine, go find a 6.5 TD takeout from a 2001+ HMMWV. Rock solid - just make sure to add Stanadyne to each tank to keep the ULSD from ruining your Injection Pump. No DEF. No nonsense with not being able to tune your engine. Just simple diesel torque goodness.
Here's Everything You Need To Know From The Chief Engineer! Minus fuel economy and price.
Maxey why u hating
Just look it up
yup
I believe it adds $6000.00 total...$4000.00 for the engine and $2000.00 for the mandatory automatic.
Maxey 500 mile range ~20 gallon tank. Simple math
@@LS1LT1 i'll stick with gas. Imaging charging , $2000 extra for an automatic in 2019.
Why I'll pass on the Diesel Wrangler. Because the proven Pentastar 3.6 has a range of 550 miles and makes 295 HP naturally aspirated on regular gasoline that cost's a lot less than diesel fuel, has the same tow rating, is cheaper to maintain, weighs 425 lbs less and the vehicle cost's $6,000 less. It's for people with more dollars than sense I guess.
I have no off roading experience, but does increasing a vehicle's torque at low rpm make for a better driving experience while crawling over obstacles at low speed? And would it make the Wrangler more capable?
@@GreghouseVanBouten Not really. At least not in a vehicle that is as light as the Wrangler. It's fun though, because you can usually easily spin the tires, and with the crawl ratio in the new Wranglers, it means that quite often you won't actually have to add any gas, which for people that don't brake with their left foot offroad could be super useful. It really won't affect the capability however.... unless it was a manual, which is a trim they're not selling.
Edit: Some people have tuned these things to over 300 horsepower and near 500 lb of torque, so buying it with the intention of tuning the engine while keeping the mpg could be a viable and no-downsides option.
@@GreghouseVanBouten The previous answer is incorrect, the diesel will crawl way better than the standard 3.6L gas engine.
Sure the 3.6L does a great job with the torque multiplication of the low gearing but with 260lb-ft of torque @ 4800RPM its engine doesn't make great low end power.
The 3.0L diesel in the ram makes its peak torque at 1600rpm, I imagine this will be very similar. It will crawl at idle with no throttle input with 440lb-ft of torque at such a low RPM. Watch any diesel crawling video on RUclips vs a gas engine in the same vehicle, it's amazing how great they are.
The 3.6 gets 550 mile range?? Are you sure you meant to type 550?? Or did you mean 250??
@@hogrod To clarify what I said, that'll be great if you don't want to have to add any input, left foot brake, or if it's a manual, but on an automatic that doesn't change the capability of the vehicle. Crawling no doubt it will be a better experience with no throttle input, and assuming the torque curve is rather Progressive at the low end and the throttle response is tuned so that the thing doesn't just jump to 1400 RPM everytime you touch the gas, it'll be a great experience.
The Wrangler is never torque limited offroad however, so capability wise, it will make them zero difference to a stock Wrangler's capability, despite the change in feel.
And on road, unless you're going to tune it, you better expect it to be a good amount slower, and if you do anything high speed Offroad, good luck not bending that front axle, because that sumbitch is going to be front heavy. Been there, have done that.
For some people that really like to play on the Rocks, this PowerPlant will probably a great option, for a lot of other people, it won't be. Just got to figure out what you're going for.
kinda worries me that the chief engineer is having "some difficulty" opening the hood of his creation...
The chief engineer is a manager of the other engineers, he has minions. 🤣
Italian engineers you know, Jeep died when they took over. It’s as they say about fiat, fix it again Tony!
@@snocreature4life ... You may have a point, Jeeps are NOT the most reliable by anyones standard.
Modern jeeps have never been the most reliable vehicle. I'm not talking just the jk and newer. I saying all the way back to the cj.
😂first thing I thought
I still want one---but it's been a long, long wait! And now I live on Molokai where there are no new car dealerships. That said, my JK Rubicon was shipped here about two and a half years ago from Springville, Utah. Shipping a car to Hawaii from the west coast the vehicle goes via Matson. From Oahu to Molokai it's carried over by the Young Brothers barge. I'm anxious to drive a new JL diesle Wrangler Unlimited. Thank you Roman & your Jeep chief engineer friend for this nice introduction to the JL Wrangler Unlimited diesel! Well done!
I would feel more confident if Cummins designed this diesel engine instead.
Nissan get the American diesel, jeep gets euro crap over controlled rattle box!
cummins makes a 4 cyl diesel
Says a random dude that would never buy one
@@MyDrom I'm still driving my 91 YJ daily, have had more built jeeps than Sema, and in theory, would buy my second ever "new" Jeep if they made a manual trans, Gladiator Rubicon, (and only because I dont want to do an axle swap on a new truck) and diesel. I'm willing to wait a bit, till it's out, and proven, but i dont think jeep will let me put together what i want.
But the eco diesel has got to be proven to me. There are two kinds of diesel's today, simple and reliable, or efficient over controlled ratthetrap nightmares built for station wagons in eroupe.
@@goodnough1 and Nissan abandoned using the 5L. In the next gen. They didn't sell worth a damn. Maybe they would if their trucks didn't have 2005 interior, 3/4 ton prices, 3/4 fuel mileage and 0 capabilities of a 3/4 ton. Why spend 65k on it when you can get a 6.7? And that..... is why Nissan failed with it. Oh and as far as Jeep, there's no way the 5L would fit in one.
Looks like a mechanic's nightmare. Looks smashed in there. :-)
BigFrogs4x4 compared to what ?
@@MyDrom well a 4cyl. ;-) but you are correct. Many have little room in the engine bay these days. But my 2.8 dmax in my zr2 has lots of room. When I decide to buy a new jeep I'm not sure what engine I would choose.
Get the fenders out and wala,have all the space of the universe.well ,maybe remove the fenders is another mission
@@mandytuning lol probably a lot bolted to them too
@Professor Liberal Avenger hahaha!
I now dislike 4 doors, 2 doors are the reason for Jeep... maybe not a dumb move, but seems like a slap in the face to me.
didn't realize the 2 door manual only made up less than 10% of wrangler sales! I need to grab one before they decide to stop making them.
I think it will bring a new wave of customers. Particularly those who love to drive the Jeep daily but held back because they were MPG conscious.
With this ECO diesel, your getting regular sedan MPG.
Now your making your daily commute to work an urban adventure.
Well I’m not getting a new Jeep now. I wanted a two door manual diesel rubicon.
As optioned and seen here all for "only $60,000!!". Sticker shock for days...
I've been waiting for a diesel for ever. But at these prices I'll be waiting a long long time.
I have a fully loaded diesel rubicon on order $49,500 plus tax
Its a luxury truck for a few fancy Instagram pics. Real Jeeps are Sports, rolly windows and built in your own driveway.
@@89Ayten You are the worst kind of Jeep person. "ReAl JeEpS aRe SpOrTs".
Just outside of Zion!!! Roman is spoiled and blessed to be there!
We already have the JL 2.2l diesel in Australia , this would be a great option. Steve 🇦🇺
Do you guys have the emissions crap on them?
Agree ... but apparently the V6 Diesel can’t fit into the RHD models ... engineering fail.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk We got the 2.2l diesel here in europe as well, and to answer your question - yes.
Nick Hü that sucks!
Adrian Black sounds like more of an excuse than a reason. Throw money at it, they can overcome obstacles.
I was just at an auto show where the Jeep presenter made the announcement about the Eco-diesel coming to the Wrangler in 2020 (can't recall if she said it was going into the Gladiator as well). I immediately lit up because if there's one reason I never got a Wrangler, it was the awful fuel economy. I own a 2008 Liberty and that thing eats gas, and all the Wranglers up until this have even worse fuel economy than my 3.7 with the 4spd auto. So yea, this is great news. Thanks, JEEP, for finally making reasonable improvements to your flagship vehicle. It was about time. In a few years, when I reach 250K miles on the Libby, I may pick up a used 2020 Wrangler with this Eco-diesel.
Jeep now FINALLY has this Toyota lover's attention... Great video! Thanks!
DEF and limp mode what fun , its now a jeep thing . the NEW jeep wave will mean HELP
I'm not jumping on the Jeep diesel cheerleader bandwagon. The 5.7L Hemi would be infinitely better from a driveability, performance and cost perspective. This is born of a perceived or real desire in the market for diesel everything these days, and I don't particularly care for that trend. Too expensive. Too slow. The only real benefit is range, with the aforementioned huge drawbacks. I'd like to shake that guy and demand the Hemi. Who will join me? Anyone?
First thing I’d do is an EGR and DPF delete to make it more reliable and more powerful. Hopefully it doesn’t have some of the issues that plagued the ram eco diesel.
the problem with that is, It's illegal for a company to sell a DPF delete program for the computer now days.
TexanUSMC8089 there’s always ways to get around it.
The new Jeep- Fiat- Peugeot. Yeah, that inspires confidence.
I was hoping for a merger with Hyundai/ Kia, but now there will probably never be a reliable Chrysler product with the French.
You guys are the best thanks for being on top of all the cool stuff
Cummins: makes decent Diesel engine for this sized vehicle , made in America
Jeep: piss on it
Ding! Winner!
What size? Are you referring to the 2.8 Cummins?
Hitches,Bitches and Ditches yesir
Hitches,Bitches and Ditches or don’t quote me they have a 3.9 that they have that an aftermarket company puts in jeeps for the military that would’ve been a decent pick but primarily the 2.8
Mason. Easy now. I agree a baby Cummins would be nice. But that power plant does not exist. And Bedsides Cummins focus at this time is on its future to find answer to electric and hydrogen in class 8 tractors. But you’re right would be very cool to see the Cummins name posted on the wrangler.
Make a 2 door manual version, please!
Hell yeah... 2 door manual would be the shit!
Unfortunately, i bet they never will. Because the DEF tank takes away to much from the fuel tank, and they have no manual available for that torque.
@@BrassJeep And who knows how many other obstacles would be in the way? But still, I would love a 2 door manual...
2 door diesel are available in Europe since the release.
As it was for the previous model.
They wouldn’t sell
First time in America, Jeep has ever put in a diesel? Anyone remember the Perkins diesel?
No
Just let me know when it's in the Gladiator.
FYI: people that buy diesel vehicles aren't interested in boatloads of sound deadening. We want to hear it. They sound better than a gas motor.
2020 Wrangler has a 17.5 gallon tank, assuming this diesel will have the same tank, the FCA guy said over 500 mile range. That works out to 28.5 MPG (theoretically) most likely hwy.
There was even a diesel in the 1980’s Cherokee
there was diesel in Jeep Liberty too
And the Grand Cherokee plus the Comanche and overseas in the JK, Renegade, probably more! Roman might be a journalist but he’s still not an automotive one.
What about the 05-06' KJ CRD 2.8 diesel sold in the us
This guy has no idea about jeeps.
WeBePwning nor anything automotive related
No Manual?! What's the point
I don’t know.... all the torque... all that gear reduction....I can see destroyed clutch plates, broken u joints... sheared splines... during some moderately hard off roading, because lead foot Larry dumped the clutch while mashing the go pedal.
Even Jeep buyers don't buy manual. You're about 5% of the market.
How many people in the US can even drive a manual, let alone want one? I love manual transmissions but really the automatics of today are just so good compared to the old 3 and 4 speeds it's even hard for me to think I want a manual especially as so much time is spent stuck in stop start traffic. My only stick shift is my CJ5.
I say it based on principle.... Many off-road enthusiasts have been waiting years for a diesel to be offered in a Wrangler, and the buyer that has been waiting (for the most part) is going to want to be able to shift it manually. The cost to offer it (even in limited numbers to test the market out) wouldn't make much of a financial impact if any, so there's no reason not to offer it. This is a specialty vehicle where a manual is highly desirable - but don't take my word for it, look what happened to Porsche when they released the 991.1 GT3 RS in PDK (auto) only..... The people literally revolted. Porsche listened, and now the manual offering remains for future generations.
@@heyyitsandy "the cost to offer it..." You have got to be kidding.
Chief engineer sounds like a politician speaking a memorized script. Just be normal dude!
It's probably not a literal script but rather he has said the same thing to 500 different people separately. It happens in marketing.
He needed to be recharged after this interview. ⛐⚛
This is probably better for jeep lovers in California, i just realized that gas costs the same as diesel in some gas stations
Deisel is almost 10 cents a litre more here
Mopar: The Jeep Wrangler Rubicon is the most capable off road vehicle in the world
Ford: quietly starts building the Bronco
Mopar: Do I hear boss music?
I still own a Jeep Liberty with a 2.8L diesel. Purchased in the great USA. Jeep had a small diesel in the Cherokee back in the 80's.
Love to have a diesel in a jeep but doesn’t the 3.0L Ecodiesels have terrible reliability. All the forums have long list of issues with the engine. Would prefer a Cummins instead of the Italian VM Motori
First gens had issues. They've been sorted.
most people that buy jeeps replace the engine,transmission,suspension,wheels, and remove the interior anyway sounds like a great deal for 70k
@@jnava121 You mean all those mall crawlers I see goin around have non-stock engines in them? Really?
Tad P Yes when they first buy them they have warranty so they go through about 3 transmissions and 3 fiat motors. Eventually they will put a crate motor in it if they keep it long enough. Let me know if you have any more crayons 🖍 to eat before you go mall crawl
I had a ram ecodiesel...got rid of it b/c of cab electronics failures and constant DEF issues. The actual 3.0 Diesel was an awesome engine. It's the emissions stuff that messes it up
In Europe we have the JK 2.8 diesel & JL 2.2 diesel 👍
I've heard nothing but good things about these engines, all true?
futzalfan yes they are very durable engines 👍
The wrangler rubicon with the diesel is going to cost close to $80k in Canada, they are already 67k with the 2.0L turbo.
just ordered the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon diesel ($4000 dollar option retail) at the dealership. Looking forward to this machine.
I don’t think anyone still resists buying diesel because of noise and smell. Now we are apprehensive of them because of complexity of design especially emissions. Those emissions systems cause those systems hanging outback to be there. I still have to say the diesel in this application looks appealing. If they would stop jerking us around and offer a V8 I’d buy it tomorrow.
In the 60's there was a factory option for a Perkins diesel in a CJ.
They sure as shit aint charging 60's prices for it though. What they'll call 'new'.
Def...
10,000 miles!!!
Some people don’t put 10,000 a year on a vehicle.
This is what I found.....
“DEF will degrade over time depending on temperature and exposure to sun light. Expectations for shelf life as defined by ISO Spec 22241-3 are the minimum expectations for shelf life when stored at constant temperatures. If stored between 10 and 90 deg F, shelf life will easily be one year.”
This could no a problem, I said, could be.
As a Ford fan, I hope the new Bronco is competitive in engine options. Although I would love a V8 option, the 3.5 Eco would be just fine with 375hp and 470tq. This is the only Jeep engine I would ever consider in a Jeep. Kudos.
Imagine what a mild stage 1 tune can do for the output. Stage 1 tunes on a tdi add an impressive amount of output
Yea once you get rid of the emissions crap these 3.0l diesels come alive, and get better mileage to boot
@@jamestaylor-qb9wo i have the green diesel engineering tune as well as the egr and dpf deletes (and swirl motor). gets up and runs when i need it to do so....
Great video as usual. Love the new Wranglers, but one look at the JL forum issues page and all the problems people are having with their steering, and Jeeps inability to fix them has convinced me to wait for the Bronco.
Humm guess Roman forgot about the CRD liberty 🤔
tj98guy and the Grand Cherokee CRD
Which only came with an auto, so I skipped it and got a 3.7l 2004 with a 5 speed. They sold the CRD in europe with the same 5 speed, just not here. They'll probably sell this Wrangler in Europe with the diesel and a 5 or 6 speed as well.
Not the first time a Jeep has had a diesel. I believe Roman meant to say the first time a Wrangler has had a diesel in NA.
Finally someone offers a diesel on all trim packages.
Intakes and egr coolers here we come
Will they in the future put the eco-diesel in a 2door Wrangler with a manual transmission?
I fear in the future they will stop making 2dr Wranglers. He said they only make up 10% of sales, I'll never sell mine.
If that’s the case, the next best option would be the 2 door gladiator with a diesel. It would be the closest thing to a Scrambler.
Great idea. I bet when the DPF goes bad after the warranty runs out, its probably $5,000 to replace. Ohh yes, they do go bad frequently.
This is why people do Deletes, its cheaper than fixing and you get some benefits at the same time.
I really hope they do a manual transmission for this eventually.
John I love manuals too... but manuals & diesels conflict each other. The main selling point for the ecodiesel is the increased torque. And well, you don’t really tow using a manual, an automatic has better reliability and strength when towing.
@@chuckisbusy I drive a 2018 Ram 2500 with a 6.7 Cummins and a G56 6 speed transmission and I pull an 18,000lbs gooseneck. While I agree that the auto has better numbers on paper, I would still prefer to have the control that the manual provides.
I've towed 20k with my 17 ram g56...it does just fine.
@@chuckisbusy Never mind the fact that big rigs use and continue to use almost exclusively manual transmissions.
I may buy one very soon .
This is the best Jeep ever .
@Krumblingus actually, this 3.0 and the 2.2 are pretty damn solid engines. the really bad issue with italian cars and their automotive technology in general are electronics which totally suck. this 3.0 crd is the best thing that could possibly happen to the wrangler. I hope we will get it in europe as well as here we have only the 2.2 diesel and 2.0 turbo gasoline
Krumblingus my wife loves her 2019 wrangler with the turbo 4. No issues whatsoever! However, my 2019 longhorn is a different story.
Krumblingus well, she drove it cross country and has put 14,000 miles on it since June. Only issue is her passenger seat and she averages 25 mpg.
@Krumblingus I know it’s fiat , however fiat makes engine fpr many decades ,from small cars to even big truck loaders ,
Also for the reputation of JEEP the engine got to be solid ,
Totally awesome, this is what the Jeep has needed for years instead of the engines they have
Chris Loomis he did say it has a gauge
Because a diesel engine is more important than welding the frame properly...Cute Fiat though.
I have wanted a Wrangler with a diesel for 25 years. The poor fuel economy, low tow capacity have kept me from going back. Maybe it’s time to take a look again, I hope they didn’t price themselves out of what I’m willing to pay for a Wrangler.
I am still going to hold out until they release a model that features non-defective frame welds. That's a feature I'd like to see come back.
4Lo trust me you haven’t seen a bad frame until you see the Chevy Colorado’s frame. We have them at the mine and they are about a year old and every single one we have about 15. Has had the lower control arm brackets ripped off, front cross member, and transmission crossmembers. Every. single. one. The amount of driving they get would take a long time for normal owners but a broken frame should never happen
@@justicependray9650 I'd say half a million miles would be early, and I'm guessing you aren't even close to that.
This is not the first time America has a diesel Jeep. Kaiser offered the CJ5 with a 4 cylinder Perkins from the factory.
I want a manual version!
Chuck out ALL the sound proofing.
DEF fluid. First thing that has to go. Full delete and tune. Thing will be a beast. Of course I mean on the 2nd year of the engine model and after warranty ends.
So glad to hear the Diesel will be avilable on the sport model. I was totally expecting it to be exclusive to Saraha and Rubicon.
I was expecting the opposite. Sport and Sahara, no Rubicon. It’s cool they have the confidence to push that much torque through the Rubi’s axles
@@trevorj79 Rubicon has the largest axles of any Wrangler.
Thank you for this! Been waiting forever for more details.
need to know how big the fuel tank is, and the GVRW, weight, payload, and towing. Thanks for getting him on record about the axle ratio.
I'd bet it has an eighteen or nineteen gallon tank in it, considering it has a five gallon def tank to take up room.
"Focus our efforts initially"
Hopefully that means in the future the diesel will come with a manual and in a 2 door. Thats what I want.
So I can assume dealerships will sell this thing around 60-65k in that Rubicon package... man I remember the days when vehicles were affordable...an no manual because of marketing right.... sure....
2005 - 2006 Jeep Liberty KJ Sport had a 2.8L Common-Rail Diesel engine option (in Canada, at least) with Auto 5 speed.
It was sold in the states as well plus a grand Cherokee diesel too
The team spent extensive amount of time developing sound package to keep noise levels down in the cab...top off, doors off lol
Some people that buy diesels want to hear them. I imagine wrangler owners are a little less sensitive to noise than most suv owners.
Diesel has long been the go to motor option in Australia for 4WD's. Lots of places the only fuel you can get is diesel.
I do like the way you do your shows. Its always fun with a little bit of everything. Big car nerds for sure. Thanks
I have the Cherokee in Australia with 2.0 mutijet diesel it’s rated at 1030 Kays free way driving gets about 850 on a trip ... fulls well up any hill in n 4wd low awsum engine
I really want to get a 2 door Rubicon w/ the EcoDiesel for my next vehicle. Please offer this in the next 2-3 years.
That urea tank is toast...
A 2 door would sure be a nice option.
About time they introduced a diesel wrangler. Too bad it's a diesel intended for a Maserati, not a rugged off road vehicle.
Do people know that ECO diesel is Fiat and not a Cummins? Please do your research before buying.
It's actually a VM diesel, not strictly Fiat, they have been making them since 1947 and Fiat only bought out Penske's 50% share in 2011. VM engines are well respected and have been used and are used by many vehicle manufactures including Chevrolet Kia and Hyundai amd also in BMW marine applications. A VM diesel was used in the XJ Cherokee in the European markets and others.
I love the blue it's so awesome of a color
With the added Def tank and the cost of filling it, it makes the new diesel barely worth the change. My 2007 JKU diesel here in Australia gets over 950 klm range and has 4.56 diff ratios. I still like mine better. And I don't need a Def tank.
I’m glad they made a diesel to put in the wrangler. I’ve got a 2 JL rubicon now and was considering getting the diesel. Disappointing that you can’t get it in the 2 door. Once they put it in the gladiator though 👌🏻
Man that thing is gonna be monster on the trails! With that kind of torque!👋😎👍awesome!
“The Jeep Wrangler is the most capable, off-road factory built vehicle ever”
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Jonathan Young name a more simple 2019/2020 model vehicle for off-roading please...
I get 600 mile range in my GMC canyon 2.8 drive n 1600 mile loop from cocoa beach area to DC area
I hope they never get rid of the 2 door Wrangler.
Nice interview without pissing off the Chrysler engineer on fuel economy, ride comfort, etc. questions.
I hope the reliability of the V6 diesel is better than the one in the Ram, which it is based off of.
Can't wait to testdrive that beast!
So I'm sure other people that know what they want for off roading are thinking the same as me. What did they do for the axles? I think you'll see more people popping differentials and axle shafts when they lift and go to a larger tire with all that torque.
I wonder if the beefed up the front axle with the extra 500+lbs of motor weight...
First thing going in the garbage is the "Piss Tank"
If you look at the changes in this new eco diesel vs the changes in the new 6.7 Cummins, you see that there are very similar changes happening. I am in no way saying Cummins had a hand in the eco Diesel engine, but I do think that FCA likes to copy many Cummins ideas into their eco diesel
Allways aftermarket ways to get those 4.10s back lol. Torque for days 😁
Why would you need gears that tall with a 8 speed auto 4:1 low range and 450lb-ft of torque.
@@craigquann 4.10 are low gears, a 3.07 or 2.88 would be considered tall, the higher the number the lower the gear ratio, just to let you know, you are backwards on your ratios.
@@dgc1929 lol. Yea. You know what I mean. My point still stands. 3.73 is plenty with that much grunt. My Sierra is a v6 with 305 lb-ft and 3.42 rear. Torque has never been an issue. And I wheel plenty.
I've never owned or driven a Wrangler, but wouldn't people who lift their Wranglers and opt for 35+" tires want 4.10 or 4.55? How much does it cost to swap gears?
Jaddie, Becky, & Max Dodd with parts and labor about 1,500
Definitely a contender for year round vehicle. Fun summer trips, capable in bad winter months and high fuel range which I need. Very tempting.
DEF + Diesel = I can't breathe.
Good info in this one. Nice to listen to someone who knows what they are talking about. :)
They lost my interest when he said the Diesel adds 425lbs to the weight of the vehicle....
Just make a Hemi Wrangler and let us pick the options we want...
C mon man.!!!!
They talked about this in a different video. They couldn’t get it in there and still pass crash tests.
With all due respect to you sir...
I found this.
2005-2010 Chrysler 300C SRT-8.
2005-2008 Dodge Magnum SRT-8.
2006-2010 Dodge Charger SRT-8.
2006-2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8.
2008-2010 Dodge Challenger SRT-8.
All these have Hemi’s.
The Cherokee has a Hemi!!!
I say BS to the crash test.
There’s money involved...
Follow the $$$$
Thats why they want make what the Jeep people what...
I own a 19 JLU turbo Rubicon, and love it.
I’ll trade it in tomorrow for a Hemi,
roger ballard because of an inch or two of space was needed to pass all the rules/laws/test is the excuse to not have a v8 on this jeeps . Too bad the aftermarket swaps are so expensive to get. I took a gladiator hellcat Swaped off-road and it was reallyyyyy nice
Yes and ever single one of those vehicles was designed from day one to accommodate and house the Hemi. Crash test was given as the reason they couldn’t add a hemi to a JK. Could they have designed the JL to take the Hemi? Absolutely, yes. But you’re right. Everything comes down to accountants. If there was no business case for it, it’s not going to happen. In the next few years, I expect you’ll see the new turbo charged straight six that’ll blow the doors off the base hemi anyhow.
trevorj79
I could get on board with a turbo straight 6.
Lighter them a Hemi I would suspect.
I also own a 95 Cherokee 4.0 in line 6.
That motor is bulletproof....
Why are batteries still under the hood. Put it under a rear seat, or in the storage area. Batteries last much longer when it isn't subjected to the heat and cold.
Waiting on my decision for the release of the Bronco details. I would prefer the lighter ecoboost with better towing. If they come out with a Tremor version of the Bronco to compete with Rubicon I will 100% get the Bronco.
The lack of towing capacity turns me off the Rubicon, the Grand Cherokee has almost double the 3500lbs. I'm keen to see if the new Bronco will be a robust vehicle like the 1995 I had, or a cynical styling exercise for hipsters..
Roman is titillating everytime the guy talks about the torque
This is brilliant