I do not mean to patronise but young un's get it wrong sometimes, I know because I did ! Unfortunately Novara Media can seem very London centric middle class and that can put a lot of people off. I still subscribe and will carry on; but now I'm off to tune into Kernow Damo ....Jackie Walker brilliant as usual. Solidarity and peace to ALL !
Ash Sarkar made a mealy mouthed excuse as to why she fell into the trap. I put that down to youth and inexpierience, let's hope she and Novara media are not hoodwinked again. Jackie well said as usual.
Novara are mostly younger people. I don't blame them for being browbeaten by the initial ferocity of the 'antisemitism' smear campaign. We're socialists, we are supposed to be dialectical. Learning and developing one's thought from experiences is supposed to be core to us. Vindictiveness over stuff like this, whilst understandable from those who were wronged, is a liberal tendency we're better off without. Hopefully this experience will prepare us all better for the future.
lol - today I watched this 30min long documentary ruclips.net/video/WmLGtf3NhiI/видео.htmlsi=FOUcfxIsSNG8QmZg - which on a different topic touches on the subject of the dialectical - Hopefully this experience prepares us all for the future.... I don't believe it does .... shit is shit anywhere it falls.
Thankyou for writing this, I was going try to attempt but was struggling with brian fog. You mange to say actually what I trying to. It's not helpful to be punitive when a person showering growth, that most likly in fact stunt the desired growth.
Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand I think more is needed. Personal apologies from Ash to Jackie, or from Rivkah to Chris Williamson, or from Michael Walker to the makers of The Big Lie. Enormous hurt has been caused. Calling someone an antisemite in the UK is - essentially - calling them a Nazi. These were terrible, and terribly wrong, accusations. They were also naive. You don't need to know much about the Palestine solidarity movement to know that anyone who supports that cause WILL get called an antisemite. Always and without exception. And that's not new (see for example Norman Finkelstein's 2005 book, "Beyond Chutzpah", which showed how this was working 20 years ago). But of course not everyone has that knowledge, and Ash seems to be suggesting that - through inexperience - she gave it more credence than she should have. She has learned. But I totally agree with Jackie that UNLESS this is confronted, it will just carry on getting used to bring down the left. And - difficult though it may be, especially for those so dreadfully wronged - we need some way of linking arms to move forward. So this is a positive move, and I think Jackie is generous here. Unfortunately though, the left is still getting its responses wrong, allowed itself to be used to police how Israel, antisemitism and allied issues can be spoken about. Novara were hopeless re. The Big Lie at Glastonbury. Michael Rosen and JVL have attacked David Miller. See also the lack of support for Dianne Abbott. We need, as Benn said, to 'toughen up' and give no quarter to the combined forces of the Israel lobby and the political centre whose campaign is shameful , is in bad faith and 100% dishonest. They will always seek to open up cracks in our ranks. We shouldn't let them.
You're very generous Jackie by omitting the much more disturbing fact, that in those painful times Rifka personally attacked, insulted Chris, and never showed any remorse, never apologized. I don't know if there's any hope for her to take the will to see in Chris' eyes.
Hi Jackie. Well done on posting this video and for your remarks following Novara's latest commentary on the witchhunt. It's crucial that we show leadership and humility. As you say, solidarity matters most when times are at their worst and pressure is at it's highest. This is a perfect example of how we build our unity and solidarity to enable the maximum effect and impact of our collective objectives. Thank you from Terry Deans in Plymouth
Good to see Ash have the humility to acknowledge she got it wrong. There was no sign of any such humility from Rivkah though who was breezily expounding as if she had been fully aware all the way along, when in fact they, and Michael were very much complicit in the witch hunt. Not quite so sure about Aaron as I occasionally heard a more nuanced response from him. There was a particularly naive conversation between Ash and Owen Jones some time back when it was clear that neither had at that time understood the difference between antisemitism and weaponised accusations of ‘antisemitism’. Yes it’s a step in the right direction from Ash and demonstrates the strength and decency of Jackie’s character, but I’d like to see Rivkah and Michael in particular take a hard look at themselves, their egos and their analysis of what went on in Labour from Blair’s time till the present day.
In contrast to partisan recriminations in some quarters, Jackie's response is a model if measured analysis and magniminity in solidarity. Ash Sarkar's mea culpa is a welcome first step, a prelude to a collective reappraisal by NM. Be a shame if offer of rapproachment was passed up.
I personally don't hold out much hope for Novara... They only ever act when it's convenient for them. They would do it all again if given the chance. Just look at the way they aren't very critical of NATO in the whole Ukraine/Russia situation. They really need to grow a pair.
For me there are just too many 'blind spots' to Novara's work. The ongoing privatisation of the NHS (rarely called out when the evidence has been overwhelming for the past decade and only now mentioning it), early reporting on Assange when he was being attacked by Sweden/the US to attempt deportation lacked any suspicion to the underlying context to his assault allegations, the constant and bizarre white washing of the British mainstream media journalism as being 'lazy' and 'needing to do better' rather than analysing the underlying forces/context that drive them as systematic and purposeful in their 'reporting'; and as for foreign policy issues...shocking lack of questioning around NATO expansionism, questioning the US agenda in Ukraine and pretty much most issues about Western imperialism. Including Ukraine. They rely on Western supporting sources (including, bizarrely the same mainstream media they decry as being lazy!) And it goes on. How can a socialist/left wing so-called independent online journalistic channel like Novara have so many 'blind spots' on such fundamental issues? I feal 'blind spots', like their 'lazy' analysis of the media, risks deeper of analysis the channel obviously needs.
The disappointing initial response from Novara Media to allegations of widespread anti Semitism in the LP weren't confined to any one group or platform. For me, it's important that the Left acknowledge apologies made in good faith. Jackie ends on a reciprocal note of solidarity. We should all do likewise.
I see no apology, when I do I'll think about it. Rifkah, Tweeted that Chris Williamson was a Jew-baiter!! Aaron and Peter did not go that far (that I know of) but they helped destroy Livingstone etc.
Thank you, Jackie. Always good to hear from you and to get your perspective. I stopped watching NM some time ago, because I was concerned by the way they seemed to approach certain issues. Perhaps, taking your lead, I shall be more forgiving and start at least to watch their videos. And perhaps re-subscribe. Thanks again, look forward to you and Crispin chatting again soon.
Its so important that the likes of Ash acknowledge that they lacked backbone. A principle is not a principle until tested. But like Jackie says this is only the first step, they need to reach out and mend the bridges with those on the left who felt abandoned and betrayed by the like of Novara and Owen Jones.
Thank you Jackie for your insight and generosity. Bang on as always. I hope this reflection of Ash Sarkar is a turning point and leads others to do the same. This is a wedge that needs to be healed for the left to be a force again. It has not just created division at the political level but also personal for so many. I worry many will fall into the same trap but let's hope the penny drops for many others.
Well done Jackie. Impressive as always. NM recognising the error of their ways is important. They can sometimes feel like an echo chamber. News of Jo Birds Green PPC has allowed them to reflect in a positive way for the left movement. And good luck to Jo, she has recognised the socialist home for disgruntled and disillusioned ex Labour comrades is The Green Party. Any of you here who feel the same will be given a very warm welcome by The Greens. Solidarity as always
Silly to feel that way... Novara Media has been the closest to a socialist-left media outlet that we've had .... the team at Novara Media have evolved into a tighter unite via their own experiences on the job of creating a left-leaning media outlet. Give them the benefit of the doubt I did, and imho they get better and better every year.
I used to follow Novara Media for their political analysis but eventually reached the conclusion that they were cowardly and too concerned about saying the right thing - depending on how the wind was blowing at any time. They are trying to monetise their channel and seem too afraid to risk their ''reputation/living'' by actually having convictions ahead of the herd and instead come in only when the time is right to reiterate what is already being said by others. I am not disabled but have written to them on numerous occasions about their complete lack of coverage about disability rights here in the UK, they never cover it, go anywhere near it. That is just another example of their cowardice and lack of conviction. Too busy trying to create the next generation, legitimate and ''alternative'' news channel to risk sticking their necks out. Apologies if that sounds harsh but we've got a war on the homeless, the disabled, out of work people, the low-paid, asylum seekers, unions, LGBT and Trans, environmental issues, our basic human rights as well as countless other things going on in this country and Novara Media are not the ones to push back against it, they're just trying to make a nice living from talking about the bits that make them look clever and ''concerned''.
Yeah, let's have more division on the left. Let's get the left to eat itself. We need to be more forgiving. By nature social media exaggerates small differences.
So well said, Jackie! I really hope that NV and others do reflect and speak out more about the witch hunt and the weaponising of antisemitism. Maybe they could invite Asa Winstanley on to talk about his book or Norman Thomas about his film! Or perhaps they could invite you or Chris or any of the other people wrongly accused of antisemitism! This weaponisation is clearly not going away, so we need to find ways to fight it together.
The problem with Novara is Narcissism. It's a bit too much about saving face and retaining an air of "cool". Probably a bit bourgeois if I've used that correctly. They'll probably do something similar again if they get ganged up on by the big boys. Hopefully they'll be brave next time - but I've always the feeling they shirk when they might seem against the grain. Which is awful for a media outlet.
Perhaps you are right.... Narcissism wears off as the wrinkles and the worries of older life are experienced... everyone needs dutch courage sometimes... no mater your age.... its okay to feel uncool sometimes.
The 'apology' is very welcome and hopefully a sign of Novara Media's maturing into a forum where free speech is welcome. But their continued use of words such as 'terfs' rather suggests that, in order to be cool, they're happy to embark on another witchhunt, this time against women's rights campaigners.
Most people are better than you. But I agree, you are below Jackie Walker. And Jackie Walker is below just about all of Labour, not to mention every other party except UKIP
@@evertonwood Keep playing the video games boyo like a good little 12 year old. They'll take you real far. In the meantime leave the grown ups to do the talking
Big fan of Novara Media and of yours, Jackie! Let's hope that we can all rebuild bridges over this and other questions of the day, because as good socialists that which unites us will always overpower efforts by those who wish to destroy us. The ruling class are on borrowed time.
The purge of the left by the Starmerites is actually continuing to reduce party membership (25,000 lost members in 2022). The people who gave up their membership were not unreconstructed Blairites disappointed by the lack of enough right wing policies but members of the left. These are the people who knock on doors canvassing and work to keep the party organisation afloat at local levels. Starmer is pleased with the money he has had from right-wing rich people. Let's see how effective those donors are at knocking on doors. Starmer is killing off his chances of an absolute majority. His present policies will lead to a commitment by those on the left not to Labour candidates but strictly to tactical voting to get rid of the Tories.
It’s extremely important for people to admit they were wrong (an apology is a bonus). The more influential they are or outspoken they were the more their admission is needed as an example to those who were just unsure of the facts and followed the crowd. Minds can and should change when more information becomes available.
Wouldn't it be nice if once people realise that they have made a huge error they actually seek out the "they" behind the accusations and call "them" out
As Thatcher labelled left wing policies 'hard left' and papers use the term 'populist' to describe right wing police. A simple change in grammar could be a good place to start. In the US the left are using the term 'progressive'. Which means if you are against it you are regressive? Progressive does sound better than 'hard left' right.
Even on the left we have different views, there is a place for discussion, but yes, we absolutely must have solidarity and be good comrades and work to build our friendships. Very nicely put by Jackie.
Good of you to offer solidarity after the way they repeatedly behaved. But then again I think it illustrates that any up and coming independent media channel will need to withstand repeated tests of character when experiencing various maelstroms of false outrage, where extremely strong pressures mount to denounce individuals or groups that are being smeared or mischaracterised. Novara failed badly on many occasions as they are independently funded they can always stand their ground if they choose to. I've cancelled my contributions to them twice over their lifetime - both times over the weaponisation of anti-semitism and how they refused to take a moral stand. Don't expect too much better from them in the future. They will continue to falter. But at least on this they have apparently admitted they were wrong.
Ash articulates the serious and diabolically difficult dilemma that was in the air very accurately humanly and fairly. Nobody of good faith wanted to be associated with and accused of anti-semitism , Now thankfully Asa Winstanley has published a responsible, properly researched and well-substantiated account of the whole issue: ie we now have some reputable journalism. There was absolutely zero good journalism about the issue at the time, and it's necessary to reflect that Winstanley still found he was unable to publish in this country. I feel -and felt at the time for JW and each of the wrongly accused. Al Jazeera in 'The Lobby' released footage which showed the protagonists of the anti-semitism smear to be blatantly dishonest. We didn't have those proofs and can we imagine for a moment how it would have sounded had we rubbished as liars the people who brought anti-semitism complaints to our attention ?
I think this is a very reasonable outlook on this. Obviously that still means that Novara should make efforts to appologise and make right as far as possible. As a long term Novara supporter I would embrace Jackie getting an interview or even better, becoming one of their regular contributers.
I remember the disgraceful comments both Ash & Aaron made about Jackie (Aaron even claimed she wasn’t “fully Jewish” because her mum was black). This is long overdue.
You are too generous. Ash falls a tad short of saying 'Oops', but as for Rivkah, who posted: "As well as being a nasty Jew-baiter, Chris Williamson is ..... The EHRC isn't sabotaging the movement, he is." I want to see sack cloth and ashes. Nor do I expect to hear any apologies from Aaron and Peter. Your comment that there is not much difference between you I find unsettling. Reading the other posts it sounds more like a revivalist meeting than politics. Your are just gagging to swallow the broad church BS again.
to be honest, I don't think there will ever be a clear retraction in the media... everyone in the media is waiting to see if Labour will win the next election, current composition, and if they do it will be hell in the UK.@@wagstaffphilip
True antisemitism is always about trying to drive wedges between Jewish and non-Jewish communities that could be united in pursuit of their common interests. People should be measured and accurate when talking about this issue because any inaccuracy or exaggeration can have harmful consequences
I have a lot of respect for you, Jackie, but recently I've heard you say negative things about a number of people whom I equally respect. Seeing as I have no intention of stopping valuing either of your or their contributions, I respectfully request that you don't make the perfect be the enemy of the good.
@@cdean2789 Owen Jones, Aaron Bastani, Rivkah Brown, and Ash Sarkar for a start. There are some more but I would have to rack my brains to remember who. Look, it is right to question your allies but I draw the line at making videos to condemn them. You may not like me having an opinion but that doesn't make me wrong.
When it comes to the guardian I think Paul mason when it comes to novara medi I think guardian they see an issue jump in front and attempt to redirect they were in support of sir starmer their followers were not they regrouped behind their audiences opinion
@@goLookGoRead he's no enigma he's a classic back stabler he's no friend of the left nether is the guardian or any one who works for it they are part of the controlled opposition so is the Labour Party we live in a mockracy .
Can we show the film and invite all concerned to expose these differences. This will end badly when the left get so frustrated with labour, we land up with Tories on steroids at the next election. We need to save the world, the NHS, the housing crisis, education , to me only the greens are making sense Barb
I have very little respect for fake lefties such as Novara and Owen Jones. Ash Sarkar is the Novara person I like best as she is the most genuine and insightful. The smug and arrogant Aaron Bastani would never admit to an enormous error such as this. He's far too full of himself. Same applies to the odious Jones. Solidarity to all real socialists no matter what your ethnic or religious (or not) background. ✊🏽
Why don't you concentrate on the real enemy instead of running this perpetual circular firing squad? There is only so much time in the world and it would be better spent by targeting our rivals rather than our allies.
There is a huge difference between Judaism and Zionism . Judaism , is the Jewish religion of the children of Israel . They were called Israel , after their forefather Jacob , who had his name changed to this . Anyone can convert to Judaism , as was the case of Ruth , the grandmother of King David . She converted to Judaism . What is the huge difference between Judaism and Zionism , is that practicing Jews , live by 613 Mitzvots , Although there were ten commandments , there are 613 Jewish laws . These include , Not to take away from the commandments of the Torah (Deut. 13:1) . In other words , you cannot be selective on what you do , or do not do . To love the stranger (Deut. 10:19) . A stranger is a non Jew . Not to wrong the stranger in speech (Ex. 22:20) . The last two shows that the Jews being expelled , who have no hatred for the people of Palestine , are the ones who are actually living as they should . It is also worth remembering that many Zionists are not even Jews , and many of the various , so called groups that include names like Jewish , Anti Semitism , have none Jews as members . You can draw your own conclusions as to why . My own father was taken at 14 . He lived through the horrors for three years , but lived in that same mental state for the rest of his life . Nightmares , depression , what we now call P.T.S.D. I cannot even start to understand why a people that have gone through so much , now do the same to others . It goes against Jewish law , and many of us are called anti Semites because we will have no part of it .
Given the history of the Green Party attacking trade unionists during their tenures controlling Brighton & Hove Council would not suggest they offer anything different to the Labour Party. The Left quit the Green Party between 2012 and 2014 due to the attacks on low-paid council employees the first time they took control of Brighton & Hove Council (2011 to 2015). I was one of those left-wingers who quit the Green Party in 2014.
The tragic thing about the whole debacle around the troubling antisemitism from some left elements under Corbyn and the backlash from the right it drew, is that it has made it much harder to criticise Israel's policies and the behaviour of its right wing political extremist government, IDF and the settlers. JC himself bears some of the blame, though this opinion will be dismissed by most readers of this piece. But the fact remains he has helped to set back the cause he claims to espouse.
The fact is that rates of anti-Semitism in the Labour ranks plummeted when Jeremy Corbyn became party leader, and that anti-Semitic views are actually way more common in the Tory party (not that you'd ever hear about that in the mainstream media).
I'm was so happy when I heard Ash say this. I hope they continue on this thought process. It's a good start. Thanks for this Jackie!
Solidarity Jackie
How magnanimous from Jackie. I almost cried out of emotional respect watching this.
Grow up! Crying over a RUclips video from a manipulative narcissist who is trying to get some publicity is just sad. Take a walk in nature. Smh
Good vid as always Jackie and thank you for all the work you and others do for things like Red Line TV.
I do not mean to patronise but young un's get it wrong sometimes, I know because I did ! Unfortunately Novara Media can seem very London centric middle class and that can put a lot of people off. I still subscribe and will carry on; but now I'm off to tune into Kernow Damo ....Jackie Walker brilliant as usual. Solidarity and peace to ALL !
Thank you, Jackie. As always, honest and understanding
We need you more than ever ❤️
Ash Sarkar made a mealy mouthed excuse as to why she fell into the trap.
I put that down to youth and inexpierience, let's hope she and Novara media are not hoodwinked again.
Jackie well said as usual.
Arrogance, not youth. I was “young” back then and I knew that Jackie was right and that Ash was wrong.
Novara are psyop
Novara are mostly younger people. I don't blame them for being browbeaten by the initial ferocity of the 'antisemitism' smear campaign. We're socialists, we are supposed to be dialectical. Learning and developing one's thought from experiences is supposed to be core to us. Vindictiveness over stuff like this, whilst understandable from those who were wronged, is a liberal tendency we're better off without. Hopefully this experience will prepare us all better for the future.
lol - today I watched this 30min long documentary ruclips.net/video/WmLGtf3NhiI/видео.htmlsi=FOUcfxIsSNG8QmZg - which on a different topic touches on the subject of the dialectical - Hopefully this experience prepares us all for the future.... I don't believe it does .... shit is shit anywhere it falls.
Thankyou for writing this, I was going try to attempt but was struggling with brian fog. You mange to say actually what I trying to. It's not helpful to be punitive when a person showering growth, that most likly in fact stunt the desired growth.
Very well said, couldn't agree more.
I’d be more sympathetic if they weren’t so up their own……. To be honest they’re also too plummy for my taste
Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand I think more is needed. Personal apologies from Ash to Jackie, or from Rivkah to Chris Williamson, or from Michael Walker to the makers of The Big Lie. Enormous hurt has been caused. Calling someone an antisemite in the UK is - essentially - calling them a Nazi. These were terrible, and terribly wrong, accusations.
They were also naive. You don't need to know much about the Palestine solidarity movement to know that anyone who supports that cause WILL get called an antisemite. Always and without exception. And that's not new (see for example Norman Finkelstein's 2005 book, "Beyond Chutzpah", which showed how this was working 20 years ago). But of course not everyone has that knowledge, and Ash seems to be suggesting that - through inexperience - she gave it more credence than she should have. She has learned.
But I totally agree with Jackie that UNLESS this is confronted, it will just carry on getting used to bring down the left. And - difficult though it may be, especially for those so dreadfully wronged - we need some way of linking arms to move forward. So this is a positive move, and I think Jackie is generous here.
Unfortunately though, the left is still getting its responses wrong, allowed itself to be used to police how Israel, antisemitism and allied issues can be spoken about. Novara were hopeless re. The Big Lie at Glastonbury. Michael Rosen and JVL have attacked David Miller. See also the lack of support for Dianne Abbott. We need, as Benn said, to 'toughen up' and give no quarter to the combined forces of the Israel lobby and the political centre whose campaign is shameful , is in bad faith and 100% dishonest. They will always seek to open up cracks in our ranks. We shouldn't let them.
Well said thank you for this comment
Free Julian Assange ❤🇵🇸
Now Novara just need to see the light when it comes to the War in Ukraine, and NM and Jackie and Chris all reach out to each other
You're very generous Jackie by omitting the much more disturbing fact, that in those painful times Rifka personally attacked, insulted Chris, and never showed any remorse, never apologized. I don't know if there's any hope for her to take the will to see in Chris' eyes.
And NV has now brought Rivkah out from the back room in front of the camera. A new celeb in the making, how's that for an apology?
Many viewers of NM have walked because of certain mainstream talking points propaganda
Solidarity Jackie ✊🏼❤️🕊️⚖️
Very generous and wise commentary Jackie.
Hi Jackie.
Well done on posting this video and for your remarks following Novara's latest commentary on the witchhunt. It's crucial that we show leadership and humility. As you say, solidarity matters most when times are at their worst and pressure is at it's highest.
This is a perfect example of how we build our unity and solidarity to enable the maximum effect and impact of our collective objectives.
Thank you from Terry Deans in Plymouth
As ever Jackie you are the adult in the room, stay strong comrade, very best wishes to you and G, from JG in Margate.
@@thefatbaker I take it this would be your advice to Xi Jinping over USA's provocations etc?
Good to see Ash have the humility to acknowledge she got it wrong. There was no sign of any such humility from Rivkah though who was breezily expounding as if she had been fully aware all the way along, when in fact they, and Michael were very much complicit in the witch hunt. Not quite so sure about Aaron as I occasionally heard a more nuanced response from him. There was a particularly naive conversation between Ash and Owen Jones some time back when it was clear that neither had at that time understood the difference between antisemitism and weaponised accusations of ‘antisemitism’. Yes it’s a step in the right direction from Ash and demonstrates the strength and decency of Jackie’s character, but I’d like to see Rivkah and Michael in particular take a hard look at themselves, their egos and their analysis of what went on in Labour from Blair’s time till the present day.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with the « big ego’s » comment
In contrast to partisan recriminations in some quarters, Jackie's response is a model if measured analysis and magniminity in solidarity. Ash Sarkar's mea culpa is a welcome first step, a prelude to a collective reappraisal by NM. Be a shame if offer of rapproachment was passed up.
Great video, Jackie!
I personally don't hold out much hope for Novara... They only ever act when it's convenient for them. They would do it all again if given the chance. Just look at the way they aren't very critical of NATO in the whole Ukraine/Russia situation. They really need to grow a pair.
United we stand, divided we fall. ❤️🖤🚩🏴
For me there are just too many 'blind spots' to Novara's work. The ongoing privatisation of the NHS (rarely called out when the evidence has been overwhelming for the past decade and only now mentioning it), early reporting on Assange when he was being attacked by Sweden/the US to attempt deportation lacked any suspicion to the underlying context to his assault allegations, the constant and bizarre white washing of the British mainstream media journalism as being 'lazy' and 'needing to do better' rather than analysing the underlying forces/context that drive them as systematic and purposeful in their 'reporting'; and as for foreign policy issues...shocking lack of questioning around NATO expansionism, questioning the US agenda in Ukraine and pretty much most issues about Western imperialism. Including Ukraine. They rely on Western supporting sources (including, bizarrely the same mainstream media they decry as being lazy!) And it goes on. How can a socialist/left wing so-called independent online journalistic channel like Novara have so many 'blind spots' on such fundamental issues? I feal 'blind spots', like their 'lazy' analysis of the media, risks deeper of analysis the channel obviously needs.
I have given up on Novara Media. A waste of my time.
I'm proud to be a card carrying Crank. ✊✊🏻✊🏽✊🏿
Well stated Jackie, subbed today.
Love this video. Very measured response from Jackie considering all what's happened over the past few years.
The disappointing initial response from Novara Media to allegations of widespread anti Semitism in the LP weren't confined to any one group or platform. For me, it's important that the Left acknowledge apologies made in good faith. Jackie ends on a reciprocal note of solidarity. We should all do likewise.
I see no apology, when I do I'll think about it. Rifkah, Tweeted that Chris Williamson was a Jew-baiter!! Aaron and Peter did not go that far (that I know of) but they helped destroy Livingstone etc.
the Left is going nowhere and will do nothing -they haven't the guts to run their own candidates.. Starmer can and will do whatever he likes
Well said Jackie, Solidarity, Solidarity! because without that we are always defeated!
Thank you, Jackie. Always good to hear from you and to get your perspective. I stopped watching NM some time ago, because I was concerned by the way they seemed to approach certain issues. Perhaps, taking your lead, I shall be more forgiving and start at least to watch their videos. And perhaps re-subscribe. Thanks again, look forward to you and Crispin chatting again soon.
Solidarity Jackie ✊
Its so important that the likes of Ash acknowledge that they lacked backbone. A principle is not a principle until tested. But like Jackie says this is only the first step, they need to reach out and mend the bridges with those on the left who felt abandoned and betrayed by the like of Novara and Owen Jones.
Such a considered response from Jackie. I hope to see her invited by NM on a long form discussion about this.
Jackie!❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥Showing Novara how its done! 👸🏿✊️
Thank you Jackie for your insight and generosity. Bang on as always. I hope this reflection of Ash Sarkar is a turning point and leads others to do the same. This is a wedge that needs to be healed for the left to be a force again. It has not just created division at the political level but also personal for so many. I worry many will fall into the same trap but let's hope the penny drops for many others.
Well done Jackie. Impressive as always.
NM recognising the error of their ways is important. They can sometimes feel like an echo chamber. News of Jo Birds Green PPC has allowed them to reflect in a positive way for the left movement.
And good luck to Jo, she has recognised the socialist home for disgruntled and disillusioned ex Labour comrades is The Green Party. Any of you here who feel the same will be given a very warm welcome by The Greens. Solidarity as always
Well said Jackie
Aaron should also apologise for his remarks towards you. Solidarity Jackie.
Nice 1 I'm a fan of Novara and your good selves
Very generous. Maybe wait to see if they have the capacity to grow a pair. I would be very surprised.
I'm afraid my trust in the Novara Media will never be as it was.
Silly to feel that way... Novara Media has been the closest to a socialist-left media outlet that we've had .... the team at Novara Media have evolved into a tighter unite via their own experiences on the job of creating a left-leaning media outlet. Give them the benefit of the doubt I did, and imho they get better and better every year.
What exactly has NM done to deserve such condemnation. Are you of the 'Leftier than thou?' community.
@@goLookGoRead I tell you what , you do you ...
@@GeoffV-k1h And who are you, one of their sponsors?
They're anti-zionist.
I used to follow Novara Media for their political analysis but eventually reached the conclusion that they were cowardly and too concerned about saying the right thing - depending on how the wind was blowing at any time. They are trying to monetise their channel and seem too afraid to risk their ''reputation/living'' by actually having convictions ahead of the herd and instead come in only when the time is right to reiterate what is already being said by others. I am not disabled but have written to them on numerous occasions about their complete lack of coverage about disability rights here in the UK, they never cover it, go anywhere near it. That is just another example of their cowardice and lack of conviction. Too busy trying to create the next generation, legitimate and ''alternative'' news channel to risk sticking their necks out. Apologies if that sounds harsh but we've got a war on the homeless, the disabled, out of work people, the low-paid, asylum seekers, unions, LGBT and Trans, environmental issues, our basic human rights as well as countless other things going on in this country and Novara Media are not the ones to push back against it, they're just trying to make a nice living from talking about the bits that make them look clever and ''concerned''.
Quite.
Far too little too late.
See Owen Jones for a similar fake left wing stance.
Yeah, let's have more division on the left. Let's get the left to eat itself. We need to be more forgiving. By nature social media exaggerates small differences.
Love this ❤
Admitting you were wrong is the first step. So good on you, NM, for taking that first step. Now you must go futher, imo, because it's still going on.
So well said, Jackie! I really hope that NV and others do reflect and speak out more about the witch hunt and the weaponising of antisemitism. Maybe they could invite Asa Winstanley on to talk about his book or Norman Thomas about his film! Or perhaps they could invite you or Chris or any of the other people wrongly accused of antisemitism! This weaponisation is clearly not going away, so we need to find ways to fight it together.
Just subscribed. Solidarity Jackie Walker.
Excellent I have written to Nuvara a couple of times on this issue and there has been to much division on the left from it.
The problem with Novara is Narcissism. It's a bit too much about saving face and retaining an air of "cool". Probably a bit bourgeois if I've used that correctly. They'll probably do something similar again if they get ganged up on by the big boys. Hopefully they'll be brave next time - but I've always the feeling they shirk when they might seem against the grain. Which is awful for a media outlet.
Perhaps you are right.... Narcissism wears off as the wrinkles and the worries of older life are experienced... everyone needs dutch courage sometimes... no mater your age.... its okay to feel uncool sometimes.
The 'apology' is very welcome and hopefully a sign of Novara Media's maturing into a forum where free speech is welcome. But their continued use of words such as 'terfs' rather suggests that, in order to be cool, they're happy to embark on another witchhunt, this time against women's rights campaigners.
Thank you for this video & your informative statement Jackie
❤Free Julian Assage🇵🇸
Well said!
Jackie is being far more generous than she ought to be. A far better person than me
Her interview with Roger Waters was a delight. Brilliantly bright questions, very refreshing.
And me !
Most people are better than you. But I agree, you are below Jackie Walker. And Jackie Walker is below just about all of Labour, not to mention every other party except UKIP
@@evertonwood Keep playing the video games boyo like a good little 12 year old. They'll take you real far. In the meantime leave the grown ups to do the talking
@@trex8930 TF you talking about?
Local green party MP promised she'd help me with my problems.
NEVER DID!
Well said Jackie as always. ❤
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The chickens are finally coming home to roost. Novara owe you an apology, they should have shown solidarity when it mattered.
Big fan of Novara Media and of yours, Jackie! Let's hope that we can all rebuild bridges over this and other questions of the day, because as good socialists that which unites us will always overpower efforts by those who wish to destroy us. The ruling class are on borrowed time.
The purge of the left by the Starmerites is actually continuing to reduce party membership (25,000 lost members in 2022). The people who gave up their membership were not unreconstructed Blairites disappointed by the lack of enough right wing policies but members of the left. These are the people who knock on doors canvassing and work to keep the party organisation afloat at local levels. Starmer is pleased with the money he has had from right-wing rich people. Let's see how effective those donors are at knocking on doors. Starmer is killing off his chances of an absolute majority. His present policies will lead to a commitment by those on the left not to Labour candidates but strictly to tactical voting to get rid of the Tories.
Well said👍
It’s extremely important for people to admit they were wrong (an apology is a bonus). The more influential they are or outspoken they were the more their admission is needed as an example to those who were just unsure of the facts and followed the crowd. Minds can and should change when more information becomes available.
Wouldn't it be nice if once people realise that they have made a huge error they actually seek out the "they" behind the accusations and call "them" out
As Thatcher labelled left wing policies 'hard left' and papers use the term 'populist' to describe right wing police.
A simple change in grammar could be a good place to start. In the US the left are using the term 'progressive'. Which means if you are against it you are regressive?
Progressive does sound better than 'hard left' right.
When UK lefties upset me I turn to American lefties and enjoy progressive alternative media ie: Left Reckoning for example and Jacobin very much.
@@goLookGoRead Both UK and US 'left' make me sad about the state of play sometimes.
'Hard left' - made a note of its use in today's FT. Must ask what they think it means. I have no idea.
@@carolwilcox7816 It's probably based around the fact.They find that HARD to bear. LEFT wing policies cut into their profits.
I doubt Novara media will do any further reflection on this.
Even on the left we have different views, there is a place for discussion, but yes, we absolutely must have solidarity and be good comrades and work to build our friendships. Very nicely put by Jackie.
Good of you to offer solidarity after the way they repeatedly behaved. But then again I think it illustrates that any up and coming independent media channel will need to withstand repeated tests of character when experiencing various maelstroms of false outrage, where extremely strong pressures mount to denounce individuals or groups that are being smeared or mischaracterised. Novara failed badly on many occasions as they are independently funded they can always stand their ground if they choose to. I've cancelled my contributions to them twice over their lifetime - both times over the weaponisation of anti-semitism and how they refused to take a moral stand. Don't expect too much better from them in the future. They will continue to falter. But at least on this they have apparently admitted they were wrong.
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Ash admits she was a coward
Am I missing something? Who did Ash apologise to? Jackie? Chris Williamson? Marc Wadsworth? Anyone?
So NM referred to Jackie and others as « cranks ». Why would they do that ?
Has novara even seen the film. The big lie…..Barb
Ash articulates the serious and diabolically difficult dilemma that was in the air very accurately humanly and fairly. Nobody of good faith wanted to be associated with and accused of anti-semitism , Now thankfully Asa Winstanley has published a responsible, properly researched and well-substantiated account of the whole issue: ie we now have some reputable journalism. There was absolutely zero good journalism about the issue at the time, and it's necessary to reflect that Winstanley still found he was unable to publish in this country. I feel -and felt at the time for JW and each of the wrongly accused. Al Jazeera in 'The Lobby' released footage which showed the protagonists of the anti-semitism smear to be blatantly dishonest. We didn't have those proofs and can we imagine for a moment how it would have sounded had we rubbished as liars the people who brought anti-semitism complaints to our attention ?
I think this is a very reasonable outlook on this. Obviously that still means that Novara should make efforts to appologise and make right as far as possible. As a long term Novara supporter I would embrace Jackie getting an interview or even better, becoming one of their regular contributers.
When Bastani apologises for his comments about you, ill unblock novara media. Till then, nope.
I'm sorry to say that a lot of people commenting here are not listening to the message.
Magnanimous
Why is Ash Sarkar saying all this now ?
I remember the disgraceful comments both Ash & Aaron made about Jackie (Aaron even claimed she wasn’t “fully Jewish” because her mum was black). This is long overdue.
Read the Forde report
I stopped watching NM full stop when Brown became involved & they ignored the criticism, I don’t trust her one bit.
You are too generous. Ash falls a tad short of saying 'Oops', but as for Rivkah, who posted: "As well as being a nasty Jew-baiter, Chris Williamson is ..... The EHRC isn't sabotaging the movement, he is." I want to see sack cloth and ashes. Nor do I expect to hear any apologies from Aaron and Peter. Your comment that there is not much difference between you I find unsettling. Reading the other posts it sounds more like a revivalist meeting than politics. Your are just gagging to swallow the broad church BS again.
You are too unkindly hard!
@@goLookGoReadHow long will you give NM's clebs to issue a clear retraction? Until the second coming? It'll never happen.
to be honest, I don't think there will ever be a clear retraction in the media... everyone in the media is waiting to see if Labour will win the next election, current composition, and if they do it will be hell in the UK.@@wagstaffphilip
True antisemitism is always about trying to drive wedges between Jewish and non-Jewish communities that could be united in pursuit of their common interests.
People should be measured and accurate when talking about this issue because any inaccuracy or exaggeration can have harmful consequences
I have a lot of respect for you, Jackie, but recently I've heard you say negative things about a number of people whom I equally respect. Seeing as I have no intention of stopping valuing either of your or their contributions, I respectfully request that you don't make the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Examples?
@@cdean2789 Owen Jones, Aaron Bastani, Rivkah Brown, and Ash Sarkar for a start. There are some more but I would have to rack my brains to remember who.
Look, it is right to question your allies but I draw the line at making videos to condemn them.
You may not like me having an opinion but that doesn't make me wrong.
When it comes to the guardian I think Paul mason when it comes to novara medi I think guardian they see an issue jump in front and attempt to redirect they were in support of sir starmer their followers were not they regrouped behind their audiences opinion
You could be right.... Paul Mason is an ENIGMA imho
@@goLookGoRead he's no enigma he's a classic back stabler he's no friend of the left nether is the guardian or any one who works for it they are part of the controlled opposition so is the Labour Party we live in a mockracy .
Can we show the film and invite all concerned to expose these differences. This will end badly when the left get so frustrated with labour, we land up with Tories on steroids at the next election. We need to save the world, the NHS, the housing crisis, education , to me only the greens are making sense Barb
A vote for Starmer is a vote for Zelensky .... imho
I have very little respect for fake lefties such as Novara and Owen Jones. Ash Sarkar is the Novara person I like best as she is the most genuine and insightful. The smug and arrogant Aaron Bastani would never admit to an enormous error such as this. He's far too full of himself. Same applies to the odious Jones. Solidarity to all real socialists no matter what your ethnic or religious (or not) background. ✊🏽
Ash was naive.
Novara are a joke!
This sickening u-turn can only mean Novara are haemorrhaging viewers. How can anyone take them seriously?
Ash saying that people accused of racism but not is bad, yet she plays that same game. Communist in-fighting lol!
Why don't you concentrate on the real enemy instead of running this perpetual circular firing squad? There is only so much time in the world and it would be better spent by targeting our rivals rather than our allies.
Ash was left « paralysed » 😂
Wonder who/what she kept looking at off screen? Lots of salt people, lots of salt.
There is a huge difference between Judaism and Zionism . Judaism , is the Jewish religion of the children of Israel . They were called Israel , after their forefather Jacob , who had his name changed to this . Anyone can convert to Judaism , as was the case of Ruth , the grandmother of King David . She converted to Judaism . What is the huge difference between Judaism and Zionism , is that practicing Jews , live by 613 Mitzvots , Although there were ten commandments , there are 613 Jewish laws . These include , Not to take away from the commandments of the Torah (Deut. 13:1) . In other words , you cannot be selective on what you do , or do not do . To love the stranger (Deut. 10:19) . A stranger is a non Jew . Not to wrong the stranger in speech (Ex. 22:20) . The last two shows that the Jews being expelled , who have no hatred for the people of Palestine , are the ones who are actually living as they should . It is also worth remembering that many Zionists are not even Jews , and many of the various , so called groups that include names like Jewish , Anti Semitism , have none Jews as members . You can draw your own conclusions as to why . My own father was taken at 14 . He lived through the horrors for three years , but lived in that same mental state for the rest of his life . Nightmares , depression , what we now call P.T.S.D. I cannot even start to understand why a people that have gone through so much , now do the same to others . It goes against Jewish law , and many of us are called anti Semites because we will have no part of it .
who tf still watches novara
Ooer
Novara media is the same grift as the young turks
The Trade Unions that do not have home with the Labour Party, The Greens could do some support.
Given the history of the Green Party attacking trade unionists during their tenures controlling Brighton & Hove Council would not suggest they offer anything different to the Labour Party. The Left quit the Green Party between 2012 and 2014 due to the attacks on low-paid council employees the first time they took control of Brighton & Hove Council (2011 to 2015). I was one of those left-wingers who quit the Green Party in 2014.
The tragic thing about the whole debacle around the troubling antisemitism from some left elements under Corbyn and the backlash from the right it drew, is that it has made it much harder to criticise Israel's policies and the behaviour of its right wing political extremist government, IDF and the settlers. JC himself bears some of the blame, though this opinion will be dismissed by most readers of this piece. But the fact remains he has helped to set back the cause he claims to espouse.
Utter bollocks.
Try harder.
The fact is that rates of anti-Semitism in the Labour ranks plummeted when Jeremy Corbyn became party leader, and that anti-Semitic views are actually way more common in the Tory party (not that you'd ever hear about that in the mainstream media).
Commies v commies.
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Whats the circulation of the Jews Chronicle 😲✌❤👍
Who cares?