Paying for trophies negates the purpose that trophies serve: they're a symbol of a feat accomplished within the game. I won't partake and I would think others wouldn't either. If you pay to unlock a trophy, you cannot claim that you earned it, let alone actually fulfilled the requirements.
Ah, okay. I guess if someone's played through the game 3 times, I can see some frustration settling in to push one to use the in-game currency to unlock the trophies they're missing. But still, that defeats the purpose of the trophy if it can just be unlocked using in-game currency. Almost makes their presence in the game redundant.
Yeah, that makes sense. I just wasn't sure if it was explained since I hadn't watched the whole video yet. I think I read somewhere that there were some trophies that can't be bought but I'm not sure.
I don't mind it too much. Nier is a very quirky title that plays with being meta. In a game that goes from Bayonetta action to Resogun sidescroller to Zork-like text-adventure game, it clearly isn't taking itself seriously. Hell, there's even a trophy for looking up the main character's skirt 10 times!
Colezy_k I see paying real money for trophies as a problem for that reason. You'll start getting publishers putting like one insane grindy trophy in their games. You want the platinum and don't want to spend the next 48hrs killing 100,000 enemies with each weapon for this bronze? Pay $5 and you get the trophy and the platinum!
Colin is wrong. Kojima did say what type of game, Death Stranding, was going to be. Since a little after E3 he did say that it will be an action open-world game.
kyotheman69 Dude my friend is fucking bananas over them; he's super proud of his 10 Plats. he's about to his 4,000 total earned and is SUPER jazzed about it.
Colin and Greg talking about video games is still some of the best content on the internet. They have such a great rapport and the first 25 minutes of spontaneous discussion here is great. Keep up the excellent work, guys.
These guys don't realize that Trophies and Achievements were kind of a fad during the 360/PS3 era but most people don't really care about them anymore save for a small group of hardcore fans. Whenever Colin talks about Nintendo and the Switch he acts like it's the end of the world that they don't have an achievement system in place but literally everyone I've talked to in real life about it couldn't care less lol.
CNTRI715 most hardcore gamers are at least a little bit into them. not having trophies is just another major potential negative to add to the long list for the switch
Crash won't sell well? C'mon Colin! the Comeback trailer on RUclips alone has 2,419,333 views, and even the 30 second release date trailer has 1 million views on Facebook. So I think it'll do pretty well.
Comodin Cam Colin has different standards when he says games "sell well" He even said Zelda doesn't sell well... even tho it sells several million haha
Jordan Kajencki Zelda doesn't sell to the level of Mario or especially uncharted or horizon. Imagine how many sales it would get on PlayStation, probably double Horizon.
Now Greg Miller, a Sega kid who despises the Wii U more than anyone I know, is a Nintendo apologist... Colin is a Nintendo delusionist. Is it so hard to believe that aside from Zelda people will be playing Snipperclips, Arms, Mario Kart, Fire Emblem Warriors and potentially some well respected RPGs before Mario Oddessy? I could easily shit on the Vita's entire library but then I'd sound as jaded as Colin when he talks about the Switch. He's still my boy Colin M, I just strongly disagree with his emotionally disfigured opinion.
President C4 his online persona is that, a nintendo hater... Interestingly enough his acts contradict heavily with his words, he is going to love it, more so bc he doesn't expect anything from it
President C4 Also, the point of playing WiiU titles on switch is because so many people skipped the WiiU. Im grateful, Im getting to play good games I missed out on because they were on a garbage platform
Those Who Slay Together Stay Together Exactly. If someone were to ask Colin where they should play The Last of Us, he would say PS3 suffices but the PS4 version is the superior way to play. Especially if you already own a PS4 like Greg owns a Switch. It makes no sense to tell someone who has a Switch to play Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U; whether they'd own one or not. He's just incredibly jaded, but I do partially agree with what Luis said.
It does get annoying. Sick of people saying nobody loves Nintendo more than Collin when he can't even stay cautiously optimistic about it. The direct today showed tons of great Indies and more and more games keep getting announcement. Collin is becoming predictable. I guarantee he is going to say Horizon shits all over Zelda.
PSA: There’s a “EA Publisher Sale” up to 75% off, a “505 Games Publisher Sale” up to 90% off and a bunch of “PlayStation Specials” currently on sale in North America on PSN. Also, no, I wouldn't pay for trophies. Proudly earned all 100 platinums and 6000+ trophies legitimately, which is what made the whole process of collecting trophies enjoyable.
I think the first time Sony missed the holiday release window was because they had to delay a game, but it makes a lot of sense for them to get out of the way of the big releases and sign a special deal with the cod or whatever
Dion Derksen it's even stupider when you consider that I Am Mayo is literally a "buy me and get a platinum" game...yet Greg conveniently has that platinum trophy in his profile ;) I think they lose the right to complain about such shit when they're guilty of buying easy games for platinums. BTW anyone who takes trophies that seriously to begin with is a fool. And this is coming from someone who does like trophies and has 58 platinum trophies in his profile. But even I don't take it that seriously. It's just a fun distraction and nothing more.
What if games started letting you buy Trophy related challenge rooms? - if the trophy unlocks for killing 4 enemies with one grenade, then the purchase would be for a room which give you an opportunity to unlock.
9 months after completing Uncharted 4 and 4 months after completing Gears of War 4, I think I actually like Gears of War 4 better. Nothing I have played can touch The Last of Us though....that game is a whole other level of story telling.
"The very fact that I was excited about the setting, everyone's like 'oh you've spoiled it.' I'm like, I spoiled the fact that it takes place somewhere? Get a grip." To be fair, Colin, you specifically said we would be surprised at where it takes place, which I would argue is a spoiler.
Had to choose two between Horizon, Mass Effect, and Persona 5. Ended up choosing Horizon and Persona. Pisses me off because I had nothing to play for most of last year and now three games come out within like 40 days of each other smdh.
Nothing to do with Video Games? Wait, are we.... are we really... nearing a full BOOK from our BOY Colin M?! Great Episode as always! Best damn PS Show out there, not to mention the most incredible community too!
"It's like having access to the Trophy debug menu." That's exactly what it is, actually. When you unlock the trophy shop in the game, you also unlock the ability to span any enemy - including bosses - whenever you want. Yoko Taro gives no fucks, the original NieR completely deleted your save data if you got the "true" ending in the game.
Pablo Durán I know the way he acted,about his "piece" not getting picked up... BOO HOO... Probably had nothing to do with not being click baity enough, more there was other things better to read then him bitching and moaning about stuff everyone has already heard... Get over yourself COLIN
I hope Sony continue with games like Puppeteer, Gravity Rush and stuff like that as it's what makes them so appealing, a great mixture of all types of games.
It is clickbait. Without listening/watching the whole show, you have no idea, that they're talking about ingame money. Therefor people who don't know Nier have no way of knowing that you're not actually buying trophies for real money. They only see this headline with an image of Nier Automata, which heavily suggests, that the game offers micro-transactions to buy its trophies for real money. Even though, they never said that, it's heavily implied and so the title is suggesting a false fact, i.e. it's the worst kind of clickbait. It's even damaging the game's reputation. They could have talked about how good the gameplay is, or how much of a brilliant critique towards the game-industry, Nier was on several meta-levels. Or they could talk about Yoko Taro, who is by far the most underappreciated Japanese game dev, and a really funny person at the same time. But no. They decided, it's the most important thing to talk about the ability to buy trophies? On top of it all, without even mentioning, that Yoko is known for breaking the fourth wall! It's a shame.
Agree Greg. QB was much better than ppl remember. Its shooting mechanics could of been better but I found the story very compelling and fun. Too bad we will prolly never see another one.
Hey guys! First of: Thanks a lot for featuring my girlfriends (whose name is Loan, btw ;)) song in this episode. She is super excited about it. Speaking of: She would be even more excited, if you guys would put the annotations with the link to the video over your endcard. ;) Thanks again and PS: I love you! xoxo
If anything goes for trophies then someone should come out with a Vita game where you just point the camera at your TV while playing the new Zelda game (for example), and the only thing the game is programmed to do is pop a trophy when it detects you have accomplished certain things in Zelda.
Did Greg just say Halo is a bro-ey action movie shooter that doesn't have mature themes? Halo 4 specifically is a mature, emotional story just as much as The Last of Us. Not fair to put it in the same category as Gears of War's bro-ey story.
Hictor Vedman you haven't learned... If Colin doesn't approve of it, then it isn't a good game worth talking about... So basically he is saying " Nothing coming out COLIN WANTS TO PLAY OR APPROVES OF" lol
Would I? No. Should something be done for games that have online that is either unpopulated or taken down? Yes. Is this an interesting idea to combat that? Yes. There's a few sports games on PS3 that I came near to platinumming, but now due to empty or non existent servers that trophy is literally impossible to get. I would consider paying to complete the list
An even bigger problem with Xbox going forward is that those 'exclusives' that you mentioned, including State of Decay 2, is that they are not exclusives. I will be able to get every single one of them on my PC. I don't understand what's wrong with people - are we seriously going to count a game that is on more than one platform as an exclusive because certain platforms may not get that game? Or does the word exclusive mean something different depending on what platform you're talking about? If so - Xbox exclusives are inherently less valuable than Nintendo's or Sony's. Infact it was this very conundrum that I wished Colin would have based his episode of Colin Was Right on, because its so much more important than what they're doing with Scorpio - because news flash, if Microsoft release another console with games that can also be bought and played on Windows 10 - that thing won't sell as well as it could do, and in fact could see it become embarrassed by Sony - who would have an inferior console at that time.
RedDeadBret Microsoft Exclusive. these games arent available om Nintendo, Sony or Apple. Microsoft owns Windows and making sure to stay ahead and make sure Windows 10 is the gamers platform is smart.
Those Who Slay Together Stay Together If you're approaching this from the view that Microsoft want to push their PC division of gaming, sure that's smart. That's not what my comment, nor what Colin was referring to - it was concerned with Xbox, because we're talking about exclusives belonging to consoles. 'Microsoft' isn't a console, it's a company. Simply saying 'Microsoft exclusive' - doesn't negate the fact that the term 'Xbox exclusive' strictly does not exist anymore. In fact, Microsoft putting their exclusives on the PC is a bit of a middle finger as Xbox consumers are left wondering why they should keep their console - especially considering online MP is free on the PC. Weighing up all the arguments I think that it's all in all a bad move - and the market clearly appears to agree.
Colezy_k I think online streaming services and game exclusivity are two different issues. Colin rather sums up my view, in that Nintendo go too far down the rabbit hole with exclusives in that their platforms only have those games whereas Microsoft seam to go the opposite direction in that theoretically their platforms will have no exclusivity but strong third party support. Sony is in the middle ground, proving that having strong 1st, 2nd and 3rd party support together spells success - which is why unless things change, despite Scorpio and the Switch on the way, Sony will continue to dominate, at least if current trends continue. If I was Microsoft I would release Scorpio along with a new 1st party initiative - stop relying on gears and halo and start investing in new studios to develop new exciting IP. If Sony just focused on their big well known titles like Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Killzone etc we'd have never got critical success' like Horizon, The Last of Us or Bloodborne. Microsoft did this in the early Xbox 360 days, but recently they've all but completely abandoned this - recently evidenced with Scalebounds cancellation - a major first party title, all be it 2nd party.
I think there are absolutely a large number of people who buy PS4's for the exclusives. Hell, they are the only reason a lot of people even consider owning a console. When people come to the defense of the PS4, the biggest argument is always the exclusives.
from what I heard you have to beat Nier Automata 3 times before you can purchase the trophies but it's in game currency and not real money, I like to earn my trophies the natural way so that's what i'll do!
Colin I bought my ps4 for first party exclusives, I do enjoy 3rd party games like the witcher 3, dark soul's 3, mad max & so on. Sony's first party games are great but there are a few of their exclusive games that don't appeal to me like the kill zone series!
I kinda agree that MS needs new IP and I believe they will for next year, but to say Xbox exclusives aren't awesome and stuff like that is very hyperbolic and in the eyes of the beholder.
Baytuh Really enjoyed Quantum Break, State of Decay, Ori and the blind forest and Recore. Also GOW and Halo are good. I'm mainly a Sony and Nintendo person though.
A bit quick to dismiss Sea of Thieves, Greg... you were playing Ghost Recon Wildlands with a couple of randoms the other day and you all worked together fine :D
Colin is so hypocritical... "I'm sick of them showing us games 2-3 years out. ...shorter incubation..." "I don't know what Microsoft has coming out after this year."
Colin, you should give Torment: Tides of Numenara a shot. It's a super deep RPG with a lot of choice and consequence. I think it's a game you'd really like. Made by the same developer who made Wasteland 2 with many of the same writers of Planescape: Torment, one of the greatest games ever made. So please give it a chance. Thanks! :)
If this becomes a trend, you don't have to buy the trophies. You can just earn it the old fashioned way. It's your game now. You paid for it. Do what you want with it. I'm someone who doesn't care much about trophies, so for me it doesnt matter much to me.
If you compare Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony to film directors then Nintendo is Stephen Speilberg. Still making quality stuff and still much respected but you feel that their best work was in the 80's. Microsoft are Michael Bay, makes big dumb products that sell well but they get forgotten about very quickly. And Sony are Christopher Nolan, they move between big blockbusters and more niche ones but they capture people's attention because of past success and reputation.
I don't anybody truly gives a damn about the Nier trophy situation. Who cares if someone bought a playinum trophy in game. You know it's a slow news week when this is your point of complaints
If you get a Platinum trophy you should get an actual trophy... each could be customised for whatever game but they follow the same theme for example there's a template trophy with base but the FF7 one would have a bust of cloud on the top (something like that) Would be nice to have them on the shelf, just like you get for sports or other activities. i know it would never happen
That would be applying the dreaded micro-transaction model to something that is free and should be free. This is why: a trophy is something you earn for accomplishing something in a game. Could I just pay $30 to platinum a game in the future? What fun would that be? It would make Trophies completely irrelevant.
I must be lucky, I got that Rissete trophy on my first playthrough quite randomly for some reason. Got the platinum on my third playthrough, I didn't even finished that third one.
Its weird, I didn't have that much of a problem with Persona 4's trophies. I got most of the trophies on my first playthrough just playing the game. Even the Rise one I remember just getting without even knowing I got it.
TheBleachj16 I got mine on the third play through when I wasn't really going for it (or concerned with it) it popped for me while I was grinding. That's my advice for anyone going for it. Just take a day and grind in one of the dungeons. Make sure you change out party members as well so you hear all her lines. Don't stick with one set arrangement otherwise you'll miss certain lines. Not a hard trophy, just a grindy one.
Neil isn't wrong at all my friend had no idea Naughty Dog had nothing do with the uncharted movie and thought because it was getting made it was Naughty Dog involvement till I showed him Neil's tweet
I understand Collin's arguement about lack of games for the switch. Zelda is the biggest game released from Nintendo this Spring. But he himself states that the March is packed with games and then after that there is really nothing so it's good to have a "breather" to play all the games. So Sony isn't really release any big game either. Gotta be fair to both. I'll skip Horizion for Zelda, Haven't played any Mass Effect games and won't pick up Andromeda. Therefore I'll play Switch, getting the indie titles, and pre-purchased PS4 games, no new ones.
NO. I prefer to get my trophies legitimately. Why should you be rewarded for paying for something, when other people work for that. Besides, one of the trophies has you looking up her skirt, so paying for that(even with an in-game currency) is stupid.
I only buy Playstation consoles for the exclusives. Simply because the majority of my friends game on Xbox and PC, and I'm not particularly s fan of PSN. If Sony were to come out and announce that there will never be a new TLOU, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper or Jak and Daxter game again then I'd be very complacent in holding off on my purchase of the next Playstation console. Of course there are other franchises for Playstation that I'd miss, however those four in particular are why I bought a PS3 and a PS4.
Horizon is so awesome I know you guys think it doesn't need multiplayer but I hope they at least add a dlc content later on and at least add a higher gear and more quest and more machine bosses. I just don't want it to end and die out .
damn greg you might be on it with that prediction... there already are social media aggregates out there, so that could be do-able. that would be some dope shit... good call...
I can see activision "spelt with a $ sign" jumping in on the buying trophies. They all ready do paid to win shit in COD, which has destroyed the game for a lot of people.
Personally love the Microsoft pc strategy. I am a PC gamer first, console second. I love a lot of those exclusives and I get to support them even though I don't have the system. It's a better long game I feel when a parent can have their kid on the system and get a second copy for PC for free and everyone can play together. Similarly PS3 really had a rough generation but pulled through mainly because of the bro shooter situation as an alternative.
Not to mention the Xbox isn't getting any of the great games that come from Japan. Which was one of the biggest, if not main, reason I ended up picking up a PS4. Edit: And Game Informer is a joke.
Paying for trophies is the video game version of a participation trophy. Why would you want to do that if you are chasing a platinum? Definitely takes away the meaning and purpose of the trophy.
56:52 for topic of the show
Paying for trophies negates the purpose that trophies serve: they're a symbol of a feat accomplished within the game. I won't partake and I would think others wouldn't either. If you pay to unlock a trophy, you cannot claim that you earned it, let alone actually fulfilled the requirements.
The ability to pay for trophies in Nier aren't unlocked until the 3rd playthrough and it's with in-game currency
Ah, okay. I guess if someone's played through the game 3 times, I can see some frustration settling in to push one to use the in-game currency to unlock the trophies they're missing. But still, that defeats the purpose of the trophy if it can just be unlocked using in-game currency. Almost makes their presence in the game redundant.
Yeah, that makes sense. I just wasn't sure if it was explained since I hadn't watched the whole video yet. I think I read somewhere that there were some trophies that can't be bought but I'm not sure.
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I don't mind it too much. Nier is a very quirky title that plays with being meta. In a game that goes from Bayonetta action to Resogun sidescroller to Zork-like text-adventure game, it clearly isn't taking itself seriously. Hell, there's even a trophy for looking up the main character's skirt 10 times!
Colezy_k I see paying real money for trophies as a problem for that reason. You'll start getting publishers putting like one insane grindy trophy in their games. You want the platinum and don't want to spend the next 48hrs killing 100,000 enemies with each weapon for this bronze? Pay $5 and you get the trophy and the platinum!
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"There is no we, I wrote it" Ahhh, Colin, always slighlty douchy
Colin is wrong. Kojima did say what type of game, Death Stranding, was going to be. Since a little after E3 he did say that it will be an action open-world game.
don't you already pay for trophies when you purchase games like Mayo?
Excuse me, I earned those platinum's through sheer hard-work!
Goddamn right getting my 4 year daughter to tap that jar was accomplishment
people give a shit about trophies?
kyotheman69 yes. you suck
kyotheman69 Dude my friend is fucking bananas over them; he's super proud of his 10 Plats. he's about to his 4,000 total earned and is SUPER jazzed about it.
"Your turning into a fucking apologist...... hanging with Tim too much" LMAO GET EM COLIN
@40:00 this is why we appreciate Kinda Funny, and you're knowledge and diligence, Colin!
paying for trophies is dumb because it takes away the value of the trophy
H2OMudkip Trophies have no value though, just sentimental.
They only have value if you care about trophies.
H2OMudkip Yes, but I think only 1-2% of PS gamers really care about trophies so it's not surprising that they aren't policed very well.
It adds more value to my games! All personal man
You guys know nothing. Yoko Taro added buying trophies in game as a joke. Yoko Taro is a living troll, he gets kicks out of doing shit like that.
Colin and Greg talking about video games is still some of the best content on the internet. They have such a great rapport and the first 25 minutes of spontaneous discussion here is great. Keep up the excellent work, guys.
These guys don't realize that Trophies and Achievements were kind of a fad during the 360/PS3 era but most people don't really care about them anymore save for a small group of hardcore fans. Whenever Colin talks about Nintendo and the Switch he acts like it's the end of the world that they don't have an achievement system in place but literally everyone I've talked to in real life about it couldn't care less lol.
CNTRI715 most hardcore gamers are at least a little bit into them. not having trophies is just another major potential negative to add to the long list for the switch
CNTRI715 How do you know this? Seems you might just be assuming.
there is channels out there dedicated to trophy hunting like ps4trophies and powerpyx with tonnes of subscribers. So you are wrong
Greg didn't say "A bakers dozen" unsubbing
Zuikoz that's the point it's for every number but 12
he's said bakers dozen for 12 items before
Zuikoz You do know that a bakers dozen is 13 right?
yes...you do know greg has called every number of news items a bakers dozen since the first ps I
Zuikoz you do know thats because colin makes sure it never 13 right?
Crash won't sell well? C'mon Colin! the Comeback trailer on RUclips alone has 2,419,333 views, and even the 30 second release date trailer has 1 million views on Facebook. So I think it'll do pretty well.
Comodin Cam half of those were from Tim
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Colin has different standards when he says games "sell well"
He even said Zelda doesn't sell well... even tho it sells several million haha
Jordan Kajencki Zelda doesn't sell to the level of Mario or especially uncharted or horizon. Imagine how many sales it would get on PlayStation, probably double Horizon.
Now Greg Miller, a Sega kid who despises the Wii U more than anyone I know, is a Nintendo apologist... Colin is a Nintendo delusionist. Is it so hard to believe that aside from Zelda people will be playing Snipperclips, Arms, Mario Kart, Fire Emblem Warriors and potentially some well respected RPGs before Mario Oddessy? I could easily shit on the Vita's entire library but then I'd sound as jaded as Colin when he talks about the Switch.
He's still my boy Colin M, I just strongly disagree with his emotionally disfigured opinion.
President C4 his online persona is that, a nintendo hater... Interestingly enough his acts contradict heavily with his words, he is going to love it, more so bc he doesn't expect anything from it
President C4 Also, the point of playing WiiU titles on switch is because so many people skipped the WiiU. Im grateful, Im getting to play good games I missed out on because they were on a garbage platform
Those Who Slay Together Stay Together Exactly. If someone were to ask Colin where they should play The Last of Us, he would say PS3 suffices but the PS4 version is the superior way to play. Especially if you already own a PS4 like Greg owns a Switch. It makes no sense to tell someone who has a Switch to play Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U; whether they'd own one or not. He's just incredibly jaded, but I do partially agree with what Luis said.
It does get annoying. Sick of people saying nobody loves Nintendo more than Collin when he can't even stay cautiously optimistic about it. The direct today showed tons of great Indies and more and more games keep getting announcement. Collin is becoming predictable. I guarantee he is going to say Horizon shits all over Zelda.
Marc Antonellis hahaha if he does it there is a big chance it is just for the lols, but thankfully he's really professional, right?
PSA: There’s a “EA Publisher Sale” up to 75% off, a “505 Games Publisher Sale” up to 90% off and a bunch of “PlayStation Specials” currently on sale in North America on PSN.
Also, no, I wouldn't pay for trophies. Proudly earned all 100 platinums and 6000+ trophies legitimately, which is what made the whole process of collecting trophies enjoyable.
Navindra Budhram Not all heroes wear capes. Thanks for the heads up bro.
Greg that idea for Death Stranding would be so unique and interesting! The interview with Kojima was great btw :)
I think the first time Sony missed the holiday release window was because they had to delay a game, but it makes a lot of sense for them to get out of the way of the big releases and sign a special deal with the cod or whatever
Play a telltale game once: Get a Platinum, no one complains.
Play Nier 2+ times: HOW DARE THEY ALLOW SOMEONE TO BUY TROPHIES?!?
Dion Derksen it's even stupider when you consider that I Am Mayo is literally a "buy me and get a platinum" game...yet Greg conveniently has that platinum trophy in his profile ;) I think they lose the right to complain about such shit when they're guilty of buying easy games for platinums.
BTW anyone who takes trophies that seriously to begin with is a fool. And this is coming from someone who does like trophies and has 58 platinum trophies in his profile. But even I don't take it that seriously. It's just a fun distraction and nothing more.
After Mass Effect Andromeda there is Persona 5, Prey and FFXII Zodiac Age.
Middle Earth: Shadow of War
Mario Odyssey. Tons of indie games. Injustice 2.
Gabriel Uncharted: The Lost Legacy and the Crash Bandicoot trilogy too
"I'm drinking Mountain Dew and blowing shit up" -Greg Miller. I am ctfu
What if games started letting you buy Trophy related challenge rooms? - if the trophy unlocks for killing 4 enemies with one grenade, then the purchase would be for a room which give you an opportunity to unlock.
Good thing you didn't finish Witcher 3 Colin because there is the same 'bring all allies' trophy, which I got naturally lol :P
9 months after completing Uncharted 4 and 4 months after completing Gears of War 4, I think I actually like Gears of War 4 better. Nothing I have played can touch The Last of Us though....that game is a whole other level of story telling.
The Rubin Report wit Colin M, Can't wait!
The PSN Store is completely fine. Making mountains out of molehills.
"The very fact that I was excited about the setting, everyone's like 'oh you've spoiled it.' I'm like, I spoiled the fact that it takes place somewhere? Get a grip."
To be fair, Colin, you specifically said we would be surprised at where it takes place, which I would argue is a spoiler.
Had to choose two between Horizon, Mass Effect, and Persona 5. Ended up choosing Horizon and Persona. Pisses me off because I had nothing to play for most of last year and now three games come out within like 40 days of each other smdh.
I know, same problem. Chose the same games. Luckily Summer looks mostly empty.
Dylan417 unlucky I got all 3 lol and switch
Colin is gonna propose!!! 'Secret mission, not game related"
Nothing to do with Video Games? Wait, are we.... are we really... nearing a full BOOK from our BOY Colin M?!
Great Episode as always! Best damn PS Show out there, not to mention the most incredible community too!
"It's like having access to the Trophy debug menu."
That's exactly what it is, actually. When you unlock the trophy shop in the game, you also unlock the ability to span any enemy - including bosses - whenever you want. Yoko Taro gives no fucks, the original NieR completely deleted your save data if you got the "true" ending in the game.
Colin, can we have: Jason Schreier, Jim Sterling and yourself in a conversation about games media?....that would be epic!
Pablo Durán I know the way he acted,about his "piece" not getting picked up... BOO HOO... Probably had nothing to do with not being click baity enough, more there was other things better to read then him bitching and moaning about stuff everyone has already heard... Get over yourself COLIN
I hope Sony continue with games like Puppeteer, Gravity Rush and stuff like that as it's what makes them so appealing, a great mixture of all types of games.
Best podcast in and out of gaming.
56:48 Nier Automata lets you buy trophies (topic of the show)
I use my psvr. RUclips now has vr option, I'm still playing RE7. Next ps update let's you watch 3d films in vr. Can not wait!
Wow that's a clickbait title if I've ever seen one. You know it's in-game money right?
zempmasterz no it just asks a question if you would buy it dosent say "you will be able to pay real money to buy playstation trophys"
In game or not you ARE paying for trophies.
The title is valid. This is a good title to bring in the views.
It is clickbait. Without listening/watching the whole show, you have no idea, that they're talking about ingame money. Therefor people who don't know Nier have no way of knowing that you're not actually buying trophies for real money. They only see this headline with an image of Nier Automata, which heavily suggests, that the game offers micro-transactions to buy its trophies for real money. Even though, they never said that, it's heavily implied and so the title is suggesting a false fact, i.e. it's the worst kind of clickbait.
It's even damaging the game's reputation. They could have talked about how good the gameplay is, or how much of a brilliant critique towards the game-industry, Nier was on several meta-levels. Or they could talk about Yoko Taro, who is by far the most underappreciated Japanese game dev, and a really funny person at the same time. But no. They decided, it's the most important thing to talk about the ability to buy trophies? On top of it all, without even mentioning, that Yoko is known for breaking the fourth wall! It's a shame.
Agree Greg. QB was much better than ppl remember. Its shooting mechanics could of been better but I found the story very compelling and fun. Too bad we will prolly never see another one.
1:25:40 Calling RUclips a "garbage planet" is really gonna motivate me to put out more videos lmao
Great Episode Guys, keep it up!!!
Hey guys! First of: Thanks a lot for featuring my girlfriends (whose name is Loan, btw ;)) song in this episode. She is super excited about it. Speaking of: She would be even more excited, if you guys would put the annotations with the link to the video over your endcard. ;) Thanks again and PS: I love you! xoxo
Colin is right. The PS exclusives make me stay. I'm on PC mostly, but have to keep the PS4 for Horizon, TLOU2, GoW, Death Stranding and Days Gone.
Tyrone Bowens I'm so hyped for Days Gone.
"After Mass Effect I feel like nothing comes out"
PERSONA 5
If anything goes for trophies then someone should come out with a Vita game where you just point the camera at your TV while playing the new Zelda game (for example), and the only thing the game is programmed to do is pop a trophy when it detects you have accomplished certain things in Zelda.
Did Greg just say Halo is a bro-ey action movie shooter that doesn't have mature themes? Halo 4 specifically is a mature, emotional story just as much as The Last of Us. Not fair to put it in the same category as Gears of War's bro-ey story.
Ahmed Mohamed Greg's touchstone to that series is probably quite literally the first installment.
Ahmed Mohamed Hahaha, you're funny. I like you.
Comparing the storytelling of TLoU to Halo 4?? hahahahahahahaha
Nothing's coming out after Mass Effect? COME ON COLIN. Persona 5 comes out one week after!!!!!!
Hictor Vedman you haven't learned... If Colin doesn't approve of it, then it isn't a good game worth talking about... So basically he is saying " Nothing coming out COLIN WANTS TO PLAY OR APPROVES OF" lol
No, I think he does approve of it, but didn't think about it enough when he said nothing good's coming out after Mass Effect.
I died a little inside when Greg said real dozen
Would I? No. Should something be done for games that have online that is either unpopulated or taken down? Yes. Is this an interesting idea to combat that? Yes. There's a few sports games on PS3 that I came near to platinumming, but now due to empty or non existent servers that trophy is literally impossible to get. I would consider paying to complete the list
An even bigger problem with Xbox going forward is that those 'exclusives' that you mentioned, including State of Decay 2, is that they are not exclusives. I will be able to get every single one of them on my PC. I don't understand what's wrong with people - are we seriously going to count a game that is on more than one platform as an exclusive because certain platforms may not get that game? Or does the word exclusive mean something different depending on what platform you're talking about? If so - Xbox exclusives are inherently less valuable than Nintendo's or Sony's.
Infact it was this very conundrum that I wished Colin would have based his episode of Colin Was Right on, because its so much more important than what they're doing with Scorpio - because news flash, if Microsoft release another console with games that can also be bought and played on Windows 10 - that thing won't sell as well as it could do, and in fact could see it become embarrassed by Sony - who would have an inferior console at that time.
RedDeadBret Microsoft Exclusive. these games arent available om Nintendo, Sony or Apple. Microsoft owns Windows and making sure to stay ahead and make sure Windows 10 is the gamers platform is smart.
Those Who Slay Together Stay Together
If you're approaching this from the view that Microsoft want to push their PC division of gaming, sure that's smart. That's not what my comment, nor what Colin was referring to - it was concerned with Xbox, because we're talking about exclusives belonging to consoles. 'Microsoft' isn't a console, it's a company. Simply saying 'Microsoft exclusive' - doesn't negate the fact that the term 'Xbox exclusive' strictly does not exist anymore.
In fact, Microsoft putting their exclusives on the PC is a bit of a middle finger as Xbox consumers are left wondering why they should keep their console - especially considering online MP is free on the PC.
Weighing up all the arguments I think that it's all in all a bad move - and the market clearly appears to agree.
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I think online streaming services and game exclusivity are two different issues. Colin rather sums up my view, in that Nintendo go too far down the rabbit hole with exclusives in that their platforms only have those games whereas Microsoft seam to go the opposite direction in that theoretically their platforms will have no exclusivity but strong third party support. Sony is in the middle ground, proving that having strong 1st, 2nd and 3rd party support together spells success - which is why unless things change, despite Scorpio and the Switch on the way, Sony will continue to dominate, at least if current trends continue.
If I was Microsoft I would release Scorpio along with a new 1st party initiative - stop relying on gears and halo and start investing in new studios to develop new exciting IP. If Sony just focused on their big well known titles like Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Killzone etc we'd have never got critical success' like Horizon, The Last of Us or Bloodborne. Microsoft did this in the early Xbox 360 days, but recently they've all but completely abandoned this - recently evidenced with Scalebounds cancellation - a major first party title, all be it 2nd party.
Oh that PS2 start-up sound still gets to me!
I think there are absolutely a large number of people who buy PS4's for the exclusives. Hell, they are the only reason a lot of people even consider owning a console. When people come to the defense of the PS4, the biggest argument is always the exclusives.
Just gonna leave this here: Hohokum is 10/10
"I love Colin..."
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from what I heard you have to beat Nier Automata 3 times before you can purchase the trophies but it's in game currency and not real money, I like to earn my trophies the natural way so that's what i'll do!
Colin I bought my ps4 for first party exclusives, I do enjoy 3rd party games like the witcher 3, dark soul's 3, mad max & so on. Sony's first party games are great but there are a few of their exclusive games that don't appeal to me like the kill zone series!
The trophy situation really isn't bad. It's no different than making easy trophies which happens all the time.
God damn, I'm going to really miss this duo covering PlayStation :(
I kinda agree that MS needs new IP and I believe they will for next year, but to say Xbox exclusives aren't awesome and stuff like that is very hyperbolic and in the eyes of the beholder.
Baytuh Really enjoyed Quantum Break, State of Decay, Ori and the blind forest and Recore. Also GOW and Halo are good. I'm mainly a Sony and Nintendo person though.
Me too i'm manly a Xbox guy but Horizon and the new God of War look awesome same with Zelda.
A bit quick to dismiss Sea of Thieves, Greg... you were playing Ghost Recon Wildlands with a couple of randoms the other day and you all worked together fine :D
Nathan Drake is being hunted by Pirates, mercs and supernatural enemies... he is NOT a murderer!
Great episode!!! Can't wait for this week's #ColinWasRight
Colin is so hypocritical...
"I'm sick of them showing us games 2-3 years out. ...shorter incubation..."
"I don't know what Microsoft has coming out after this year."
How does one get the shadow outfits Colin mentioned? Do I simply have to play more of the main quest to unlock?
The Last Guardian sold over 1 million. Pretty good.
Colin, you should give Torment: Tides of Numenara a shot. It's a super deep RPG with a lot of choice and consequence. I think it's a game you'd really like. Made by the same developer who made Wasteland 2 with many of the same writers of Planescape: Torment, one of the greatest games ever made. So please give it a chance. Thanks! :)
I have the biggest feeling Colin is going to Neil to talk last of us story . I'm 99% sure
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If this becomes a trend, you don't have to buy the trophies. You can just earn it the old fashioned way. It's your game now. You paid for it. Do what you want with it. I'm someone who doesn't care much about trophies, so for me it doesnt matter much to me.
Just setup my new aqua blue vita. Such a great underrated system. Aqua blue looks surprisingly cool.
That worst psn name made me literally lol.
Colin always complains that there are too many games and now is saying there's nothing after Mass Effect.... ugghhhh
this year is filled with games. it reminds me of 2007 and 2011.
Weird thing to get annoyed at
Magna Insomnia You no what he means you bellend
Halo's lore expands further out than Star Wars, but sure okay. 😂
If you compare Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony to film directors then Nintendo is Stephen Speilberg. Still making quality stuff and still much respected but you feel that their best work was in the 80's. Microsoft are Michael Bay, makes big dumb products that sell well but they get forgotten about very quickly. And Sony are Christopher Nolan, they move between big blockbusters and more niche ones but they capture people's attention because of past success and reputation.
I don't anybody truly gives a damn about the Nier trophy situation. Who cares if someone bought a playinum trophy in game. You know it's a slow news week when this is your point of complaints
Got my question read. Cheers boys!
If you get a Platinum trophy you should get an actual trophy...
each could be customised for whatever game but they follow the same theme
for example there's a template trophy with base but the FF7 one would have a bust of cloud on the top (something like that)
Would be nice to have them on the shelf, just like you get for sports or other activities. i know it would never happen
That would be applying the dreaded micro-transaction model to something that is free and should be free. This is why: a trophy is something you earn for accomplishing something in a game. Could I just pay $30 to platinum a game in the future? What fun would that be? It would make Trophies completely irrelevant.
You guys know nothing. Yoko Taro added buying trophies in game as a joke. Yoko Taro is a living troll, he gets kicks out of doing shit like that.
I must be lucky, I got that Rissete trophy on my first playthrough quite randomly for some reason. Got the platinum on my third playthrough, I didn't even finished that third one.
that risette trophy is the reason i never finished persona 4
Its weird, I didn't have that much of a problem with Persona 4's trophies. I got most of the trophies on my first playthrough just playing the game. Even the Rise one I remember just getting without even knowing I got it.
TheBleachj16 I got mine on the third play through when I wasn't really going for it (or concerned with it) it popped for me while I was grinding. That's my advice for anyone going for it. Just take a day and grind in one of the dungeons. Make sure you change out party members as well so you hear all her lines. Don't stick with one set arrangement otherwise you'll miss certain lines.
Not a hard trophy, just a grindy one.
I bought my PS4 for the Japanese support. Bloodborne, Kingdom Hearts, Tales Games, Final Fantasy, Gravity Rush, etc.
two hour after this video was made nintendo posted a video of 10 games coming soon on the switch lol
I bought a PS4 for the exclusives but I have noticed most of my friends on it mostly play multiplats.
Neil isn't wrong at all my friend had no idea Naughty Dog had nothing do with the uncharted movie and thought because it was getting made it was Naughty Dog involvement till I showed him Neil's tweet
I understand Collin's arguement about lack of games for the switch. Zelda is the biggest game released from Nintendo this Spring. But he himself states that the March is packed with games and then after that there is really nothing so it's good to have a "breather" to play all the games. So Sony isn't really release any big game either. Gotta be fair to both. I'll skip Horizion for Zelda, Haven't played any Mass Effect games and won't pick up Andromeda. Therefore I'll play Switch, getting the indie titles, and pre-purchased PS4 games, no new ones.
NO. I prefer to get my trophies legitimately. Why should you be rewarded for paying for something, when other people work for that. Besides, one of the trophies has you looking up her skirt, so paying for that(even with an in-game currency) is stupid.
I only buy Playstation consoles for the exclusives. Simply because the majority of my friends game on Xbox and PC, and I'm not particularly s fan of PSN. If Sony were to come out and announce that there will never be a new TLOU, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper or Jak and Daxter game again then I'd be very complacent in holding off on my purchase of the next Playstation console. Of course there are other franchises for Playstation that I'd miss, however those four in particular are why I bought a PS3 and a PS4.
Horizon is so awesome I know you guys think it doesn't need multiplayer but I hope they at least add a dlc content later on and at least add a higher gear and more quest and more machine bosses. I just don't want it to end and die out .
death stranding sounds a whole lot like phantom pain... I'm with it for sure...
love bioshock can't see what they come up with next
Colin calls Monster Hunter a nerdy game yet plays a niche visual novel game like Danganronpa. Look at you Colin "too cool" Moriarty
damn greg you might be on it with that prediction... there already are social media aggregates out there, so that could be do-able. that would be some dope shit... good call...
I think what PlayStation does to foster these developers is just trust them. For good or bad.
I can see activision "spelt with a $ sign" jumping in on the buying trophies. They all ready do paid to win shit in COD, which has destroyed the game for a lot of people.
Personally love the Microsoft pc strategy. I am a PC gamer first, console second. I love a lot of those exclusives and I get to support them even though I don't have the system. It's a better long game I feel when a parent can have their kid on the system and get a second copy for PC for free and everyone can play together. Similarly PS3 really had a rough generation but pulled through mainly because of the bro shooter situation as an alternative.
Greg, you called him the "pride of long island". You messed up!
Not to mention the Xbox isn't getting any of the great games that come from Japan. Which was one of the biggest, if not main, reason I ended up picking up a PS4.
Edit: And Game Informer is a joke.
Paying for trophies is the video game version of a participation trophy. Why would you want to do that if you are chasing a platinum? Definitely takes away the meaning and purpose of the trophy.
Trophies are stupid. I play games to relax and have fun. Not get stressed over a digital participation awards
I'd pay money to unlock the Devil May Cry 4 Special Editions trophies. That trophy list is cancer.
Same with Max Payne 3.
I only recently started going for trophies but I will NEVER pay for trophies.