If I were to guess, the smoothness you’re feeling might be because of MotionSync. The only non Razer mouse to implement MotionSync is the XM1R on the latest firmware, and I can definitely notice that slight difference versus a mouse without MotionSync.
My combo is the rouge mouse pad with the superlight and tiger ice skates. I gotta say it’s the best combo I’ve used ever! I love it! I play valorant, and my aim has felt so precise!
This mousepad is intself something else. The upgraded gsr se rouge from the blue one is really upgraded, zowie did what they promised to upgrade about the mosepad. Im using it with g pro superlight which imo is really similiar to viper v2, and its the best combo you can get on the market rn.
I really want to hear your thoughts on the Pulsar X2. Our hand sizes are identical so your insights are always greatly appreciated and I like how in-depth your reviews can be.
Happy to see you upload again Krafty. Was missing your perfectly literate and in depth explanations on peripherals. The rouge is now on my radar after having mained the PA since its release. Would love to hear your thoughts on the Temple of Dreams since i remember you were craving a lightly textured control pad
Glad to see a new vid from you. Great message overall, in the end you will be the best with what you spend the most time on, as long as it doesn't actively hinder you.
I really enjoy your rants! I wonder how the X2 or Aria with the new 3399 sensor will feel after you talked about the sensor of the v2 pro feeling so crisp (even compared to flagship mice). Would love to see a X2 vs V2 Pro comparison in terms of exactly this (feeling of responsiveness).
9:11 - 9:45 a little contradictory when comparing shapes and grip styles no? Wouldn't the mouse that uses the most natural/relaxed feeling grip style be the perfect and or best mouse for u? I always thought it was mouse shape>grip style. Nice video.
Always love your insight and thought process. I agree that shape is king, but premium mice (logitech and razer) are worth investing time to get used to. Also, I noticed that you sound much more relaxed and conversational in your delivery. Your speaking style has definitely come a long way, keep up the good work!
I held my V ultimate the exact same way, it's like a fingertip grip with a horizontal (down) pressure on the back of the mouse from the base of the hand to estabilize. Good vid
I have the Viper 8khz (same), play at 21.5 cm/360 but when I switched from a vit slow mousepad to this one, I had really terrible stopping power (0 flick shots aim) and only easier tracking.
Your thoughts and insights into mouse grip and feel in this video are some of the best I have seen. For me, it's between the Viper V2 Pro and the GPX. I came from ergo Logitechs and tried to make the jump to a GPX about 2 years ago and after two weeks I was accidentally right clicking and getting wrist pain so I decided to return it and go with a Model O Wireless which is larger and provided more flexibility for me at that time. Now that my hand has adapted, the GPX feels wayyyy better and I actually bought one for the second time. This mouse feels superior in my hand to the DAV3 and Pulsar X2. The accuracy and smoothness of the sensor seem to be a very slight downgrade to the DAV3 but better than any other wireless mouse I've encountered. The worst part about the new Razer's is their texture. You need to build a substantial amount of moisture into your hand to get any kind of locked in feeling otherwise they're slipping all over the place.
I had both, this one and the g-pro wireless and must say i don't like the coating on the viper at all. I have hands on the smaller size (18x10cm) and i can't get a good grip on the viper. the hump is so flat that you have to palm or fingertip the mouse. I've ended up sending the viper back to the seller and kept the g-pro with an much saver shape (my experience). But i must say that the mouse provided one of the best tracking/sensor experiences ever. I also noticed that the sroll wheel is further away from the middle of the mouse. So for ppl with smaller hands you maybe have to rely on return service.
Really digging the GSR Rouge recently too. It really is like a more consistent PA, which was my favourite pad besides the humidity issues. I'm a big fan of the XE's shape, nearly the perfect ambi imo. My issue with it is the sensor placement...which is something I never thought I'd experience with a vaxee/zowie mouse. It feels too far back for how low the front is, making my aim feel slower. Kinda a shame because it's one of the most comfortable shapes I've ever felt.
Solid review, my razer v2 pro arriving 21th i think itll be my endgame mouse since im fingertip grip upgrading from the logitech g pro superlight which feels uncomfortable the egg shape and the flat sides isnt for everybody nonetheless nice video 👍🏾 edit: the razer v2 pro arrived and its amazing so far
Hey I don’t know if you’ll read this comment, but I really enjoy your content. I think you do the best in depth reviews on mice. You’re the only person I saw who I felt adequately described the LGG Saturn, which I now main. I was wondering if you would be interested in collaborating at some point. Although we have different content focuses, I think we could work something out.
I really love the rouge, but decided to return the v2 pro after the deathadder got announced. Maybe it’s a long reach to belive I’ll enjoy the deathadder after using a grip with no palm contact for so long with KPU fk2 and starlight12 small; But something about that mouse just makes me feel like I’ll be very confident in using it. And confidence is probably what is most important in peripheral choice.
Does the new Zowie mousepad slow down over time? Especially when some humidity steps into equation. The first batch of those (the blue one) definitely did.
Hello please My best mouse for my hand rival3 and fk2 I dont know what is my hand claw or palm or fingertip? And what is the best mouses good for me please Thanks 🙏🏼
Really nice videos tbh! We have about the same hand size, shape preferences and use the same pads... interesting! I have even seen you on kovaak's leaderboards getting around my scores. I wonder what sensitivity you use for tracking heavy games? Thank you and keep making videos
Have you noticed with the GSR SE Rouge the very strange suction feeling it has? It feels free to move back and forth in one direction but if you try to move into the opposite axis there is a feeling your mouse has magnetism or suction to the pad preventing it from moving in the opposite axis. Once the mouse is moving in the different axis it glides back and forth effortlessly again. Never had a pad do that and not sure if it's a good or bad thing yet.
Yess i was just about to comment this, it is what makes me switch off the pad. I love everything about the pad but that strange magnetic feeling makes track so difficult especially when they are doing random strafes
@@LilsniperMf Figured out the problem. It's static electricity building up on the pad, literally pulls the mouse to the pad. Need to ground the mousepad lol.
I’ve been maining the v2 pro as well since launch. Paired with the hayate otsu, that is my endgame. I did have to use the grips as I have the world’s driest hands. I didn’t want it to slide into next week. Did you get the starlight pro?
I use the same combo! My Viper arrived yesterday and I'm loving it. Just waiting for the griptape to arrive. I think 90% of mice are better with grips. Viper coating is manageable, but still a bit too slippery for me. Def gonna feel better with corepad grips
I cant decide between the Viper V2 pro and the Deathadder V3 pro. Im using the Viper ultimate right now, but I feel like im more of a palm grip user and the claw grip on the Viper leaves out space where the hump is supposed to be. Im a very competitive fps player and would love to know your thoughts
I want to like this mouse so badly, but it is just too damn big for my hand. Excellent quality mouse..... if it fits in your hand. Small handed people be warned: this mouse is likely not for you. If they ever make a mini version of this, I will definitely be excited.
Viper v2 pro not the same 1:1 shape as RVU. The back end of the RVU is wider than the v2. Prefer the RVU shape by faar and notice that it's harder to smooth track with the v2 unfortunately. Sucks as this is the only thing holding it back for me as a god tier mouse. The lighter weight and faster stock skates aren't enough for me to make a permanent swap
Yeah, true! No 1 talking about that, but as u said i checked 3d rtings comparison with mouses and rvu is wider than v2 pro by not much but it is, it it also longer in the back, but v2 pro is longer where the buttons are. Its not 100% same shape
If I were to guess, the smoothness you’re feeling might be because of MotionSync. The only non Razer mouse to implement MotionSync is the XM1R on the latest firmware, and I can definitely notice that slight difference versus a mouse without MotionSync.
Lamzu Atlantis now as well.
ok
Does Razer Deathadder V3 pro feature Motion sync?
@@dr.hannibal8338 yes
@@phr3ui559 How to enable motion sync cant find any options to that in synapse
My combo is the rouge mouse pad with the superlight and tiger ice skates. I gotta say it’s the best combo I’ve used ever! I love it! I play valorant, and my aim has felt so precise!
This mousepad is intself something else. The upgraded gsr se rouge from the blue one is really upgraded, zowie did what they promised to upgrade about the mosepad. Im using it with g pro superlight which imo is really similiar to viper v2, and its the best combo you can get on the market rn.
I really want to hear your thoughts on the Pulsar X2. Our hand sizes are identical so your insights are always greatly appreciated and I like how in-depth your reviews can be.
Glad you're finally back! Have yet to watch the video but hope you have your IRL stuff settled.
Pulsar X2 video when? :)
Happy to see you upload again Krafty. Was missing your perfectly literate and in depth explanations on peripherals. The rouge is now on my radar after having mained the PA since its release. Would love to hear your thoughts on the Temple of Dreams since i remember you were craving a lightly textured control pad
Glad to see a new vid from you. Great message overall, in the end you will be the best with what you spend the most time on, as long as it doesn't actively hinder you.
I really enjoy your rants!
I wonder how the X2 or Aria with the new 3399 sensor will feel after you talked about the sensor of the v2 pro feeling so crisp (even compared to flagship mice). Would love to see a X2 vs V2 Pro comparison in terms of exactly this (feeling of responsiveness).
9:11 - 9:45 a little contradictory when comparing shapes and grip styles no? Wouldn't the mouse that uses the most natural/relaxed feeling grip style be the perfect and or best mouse for u? I always thought it was mouse shape>grip style. Nice video.
I think you will love the new Aqua Control Zero
Always love your insight and thought process. I agree that shape is king, but premium mice (logitech and razer) are worth investing time to get used to.
Also, I noticed that you sound much more relaxed and conversational in your delivery. Your speaking style has definitely come a long way, keep up the good work!
Got the rouge because I was tired of trying new pads and not being completely satisfied and honestly felt right at home in an instant kinda crazy
I held my V ultimate the exact same way, it's like a fingertip grip with a horizontal (down) pressure on the back of the mouse from the base of the hand to estabilize. Good vid
8:08 What's your favourite mouse for this kind of relaxed claw gripstyle? You've mentioned the NP01s is great for this gripstyle aswell iirc
I have the Viper 8khz (same), play at 21.5 cm/360 but when I switched from a vit slow mousepad to this one, I had really terrible stopping power (0 flick shots aim) and only easier tracking.
Your thoughts and insights into mouse grip and feel in this video are some of the best I have seen. For me, it's between the Viper V2 Pro and the GPX. I came from ergo Logitechs and tried to make the jump to a GPX about 2 years ago and after two weeks I was accidentally right clicking and getting wrist pain so I decided to return it and go with a Model O Wireless which is larger and provided more flexibility for me at that time. Now that my hand has adapted, the GPX feels wayyyy better and I actually bought one for the second time. This mouse feels superior in my hand to the DAV3 and Pulsar X2. The accuracy and smoothness of the sensor seem to be a very slight downgrade to the DAV3 but better than any other wireless mouse I've encountered. The worst part about the new Razer's is their texture. You need to build a substantial amount of moisture into your hand to get any kind of locked in feeling otherwise they're slipping all over the place.
Fruitarian or Carnivore, GPX or Viper V2 pro, the age-old questions.
I had both, this one and the g-pro wireless and must say i don't like the coating on the viper at all. I have hands on the smaller size (18x10cm) and i can't get a good grip on the viper. the hump is so flat that you have to palm or fingertip the mouse. I've ended up sending the viper back to the seller and kept the g-pro with an much saver shape (my experience). But i must say that the mouse provided one of the best tracking/sensor experiences ever. I also noticed that the sroll wheel is further away from the middle of the mouse. So for ppl with smaller hands you maybe have to rely on return service.
Really digging the GSR Rouge recently too. It really is like a more consistent PA, which was my favourite pad besides the humidity issues.
I'm a big fan of the XE's shape, nearly the perfect ambi imo. My issue with it is the sensor placement...which is something I never thought I'd experience with a vaxee/zowie mouse. It feels too far back for how low the front is, making my aim feel slower. Kinda a shame because it's one of the most comfortable shapes I've ever felt.
Solid review, my razer v2 pro arriving 21th i think itll be my endgame mouse since im fingertip grip upgrading from the logitech g pro superlight which feels uncomfortable the egg shape and the flat sides isnt for everybody nonetheless nice video 👍🏾 edit: the razer v2 pro arrived and its amazing so far
hey, nice review. have you tried the vaxee xe yet, by any chance?
Hey I don’t know if you’ll read this comment, but I really enjoy your content. I think you do the best in depth reviews on mice. You’re the only person I saw who I felt adequately described the LGG Saturn, which I now main. I was wondering if you would be interested in collaborating at some point. Although we have different content focuses, I think we could work something out.
I really love the rouge, but decided to return the v2 pro after the deathadder got announced.
Maybe it’s a long reach to belive I’ll enjoy the deathadder after using a grip with no palm contact for so long with KPU fk2 and starlight12 small;
But something about that mouse just makes me feel like I’ll be very confident in using it.
And confidence is probably what is most important in peripheral choice.
You missed to test V2's shape with grip tape, makes a huge difference!
rouge or saturn for competitive fps consistency krafty?
So, did you get and try out the high rate dongle yet @KraftyKraft?
Personally i actually like the Superlight more than the V Ultimate. I had both and i didnt like the way of how the klicks felt
Does the new Zowie mousepad slow down over time? Especially when some humidity steps into equation. The first batch of those (the blue one) definitely did.
The rogue pads don’t have that issue anymore
This or the Saturn regular for Fortnite?
Can you recommend me some mice that are good for claw grip where you make contact across the heel.
Maybe check out his G303 review. Get it with a return policy. If the mouse chooses you it’s worth it.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the padsmith Temple of Dreams
what shape do you think best for fingertip claw for 19cm hand? i already have the DAv3 am thinking about changing to the viper
What happened to the M2K?
Hello please
My best mouse for my hand rival3 and fk2
I dont know what is my hand claw or palm or fingertip?
And what is the best mouses good for me please
Thanks 🙏🏼
Really nice videos tbh! We have about the same hand size, shape preferences and use the same pads... interesting! I have even seen you on kovaak's leaderboards getting around my scores. I wonder what sensitivity you use for tracking heavy games? Thank you and keep making videos
how would you say the cerapad or cerapad kin compares to the skypad 2.0 in both texture and stopping power?
welcome back! is the temple of dreams slower than the xten control or saturn?
Imo yes.
Have you noticed with the GSR SE Rouge the very strange suction feeling it has? It feels free to move back and forth in one direction but if you try to move into the opposite axis there is a feeling your mouse has magnetism or suction to the pad preventing it from moving in the opposite axis. Once the mouse is moving in the different axis it glides back and forth effortlessly again. Never had a pad do that and not sure if it's a good or bad thing yet.
Yess i was just about to comment this, it is what makes me switch off the pad. I love everything about the pad but that strange magnetic feeling makes track so difficult especially when they are doing random strafes
@@LilsniperMf Figured out the problem. It's static electricity building up on the pad, literally pulls the mouse to the pad. Need to ground the mousepad lol.
@@DJHarmonics how do i ground a mouse pad? Lol
@@LilsniperMf piece of metal on mousepad attached to a wire that is attached to a wall plug screw works.
@@DJHarmonics 😭 idk how to do all that , is there an easier way to ground it
I’ve been maining the v2 pro as well since launch. Paired with the hayate otsu, that is my endgame. I did have to use the grips as I have the world’s driest hands. I didn’t want it to slide into next week. Did you get the starlight pro?
I use the same combo! My Viper arrived yesterday and I'm loving it. Just waiting for the griptape to arrive. I think 90% of mice are better with grips. Viper coating is manageable, but still a bit too slippery for me. Def gonna feel better with corepad grips
Have u tried the pulsar x2 and deathadder v3 pro?
review the deathadder v3
I cant decide between the Viper V2 pro and the Deathadder V3 pro.
Im using the Viper ultimate right now, but I feel like im more of a palm grip user and the claw grip on the Viper leaves out space where the hump is supposed to be.
Im a very competitive fps player and would love to know your thoughts
Buy an ec clone. See which shape u prefer
Or buy both and return the one u like less
gsr se rouge is like g640?
cm/360?
I want to like this mouse so badly, but it is just too damn big for my hand. Excellent quality mouse..... if it fits in your hand. Small handed people be warned: this mouse is likely not for you. If they ever make a mini version of this, I will definitely be excited.
ye my hands are tiny and this mouse is def too large for my hand - im also waiting for them to release the mini, which they appearently said they will
Viper mini pro waiting room? :p
Zowie will release wireless versions soon and you’ll go back to Zowie. 😅
Viper v2 pro not the same 1:1 shape as RVU. The back end of the RVU is wider than the v2. Prefer the RVU shape by faar and notice that it's harder to smooth track with the v2 unfortunately.
Sucks as this is the only thing holding it back for me as a god tier mouse. The lighter weight and faster stock skates aren't enough for me to make a permanent swap
Yeah, true! No 1 talking about that, but as u said i checked 3d rtings comparison with mouses and rvu is wider than v2 pro by not much but it is, it it also longer in the back, but v2 pro is longer where the buttons are. Its not 100% same shape
shit, just want the mini now.
don’t get fooled gpx is still the best. far better coating. perfect shape. better battery life. bigger feet.
everything? minus the software haha
Fk man the reviewer voice u can just talk normally bro the message is still conveyed well👍
is this your quitting video lol
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viper is too flat for many.