Fantastic video. Thanks Dave, you made my whole day. I could only dream of playing a 66 Strat let alone doing any kind of work on it. You really are the man when it comes to repair.
Dave, thanks for reminiscing and conveying your lifelong appreciation for the J. Geils Band--THE best party band there'll ever be--period! I grew up with their music in the Boston area, their actual home town, but they spent so much time with their massive and loyal following in Detroit that they really had dual-home-towns. I was also profoundly saddened with J. Geils' recent passing... it truly marks the end of an era. Thanks for sharing!
Dave I'm 5 minutes in and my heart is still in my mouth watching you do this to a collectable 66 neck.... I have confidence in you but still....major work being done.
Thanks for the great video, Dave! Refretting, and all within, is a true craft - I enjoy the work and process my self! I truly enjoy watching your videos, to see what new instruments you are working on :-) Keep it up and have a great day. Cheers.
Thanks, Dave. I got mellow during that, which is good. A few years back, I gave my 65 Tele to an ancient local luthier with a good reputation. He put a lot of love into it, and sadly passed away a couple of months afterwards. I still think of him when I play it.
Dave to help not loosing the ends of the frets while cutting them off (so as to not have one jump up and scratch the finish) you can put a dab of silicon or tub sealer on the back side of each cutting edge and when you cut the piece it is captured in place.
Your right about J. Geils in Detroit Dave. They played a pop festival at the Fairgrounds their first time stopping by and nobody could get enough of them. That first album was a killer! They put on a fantastic show. J, Magic Dick and Peter Wolf great times. Excellent videos always enjoy your stuff. Doing a rebuild on a 63 Melody Maker that had a fret abortion and sat unstrung for a decade or better. Youv've been a big help, THANKS
Ok, I stopped at 4:13 because I'm working and I REALLY want to see this process. So I'm definitely tuning back in tonight. But up until 2:57 there is no talking until he says, "ok, probably not a lot of talking in this one"....lol classic Dave!!!
i really like doing refrets for some reason i think it's because there's a certain "zen" to the repetitive nature of it. Plus, each job has its own funny little quirks.
Thanks man! This really worked for me. I got the frets off of a 40 year old Japanese LP I bought for $50 no problem. Really happy with the result. Now I just have to get new frets on :)
I concur, J Geils Band, whatta great band. Still vividly remember the show I saw back in '77 as a teenager with Kiss, Bob Seger and some shit Southern rock band. JGB blew them all away. Oh yeah, great job on that Strat! Dave, your attention to detail and artistic touch are a pleasure to behold.
Greetings from northern Ontario - thanks for the very informative demo. By the way, loved the McKenna Mendelson Mainline shirt you were wearing. Brought me back to the Jubilee Pavillion in the late 60’s, early 70’s.Saw them play there a few times. Cheers!
Something relaxing about watching you work on these instruments. I just might attempt setting up an old guitar I have, see if any of this is contagious.....cheers
Yo Dave! I have learned so much from you. It’s been a pleasure to learn from you. I learned a trick that you probably already know. Here Goes… The early Fenders were fretted by pushing the frets from the side….. you can tap the frets out from the side. They come out clean with no chipping. Fender stopped that method sometime in the late 70s. Check it out! Thanks! Big Fan!
Woah,,, refreting a 66.. How cool..Save those frets for me Dave... I want to reuse them on mine..Need some of that mid 60's mojo. Save the smutz too. We'll package it and call it neck butter.
Hey Dave... I got that same fret bending tool. From Canada somewhere a few years ago. My wife is from Ottawa so I like to support Canada where I can (we are moving there in a few years once my wife finishes her Masters here in the UK). Great job :)
It's a tech secret that no-one knows! I spend a good 10 hours or more on a re-fret/level/crown/polish. Though it could be done in less, I like to take my time to do it right. Id Dave is charging $150 for this, that is really cheap. My prices start at £125.00 [GBP] + fret-wire cost (on an coustic) rising to £250.00 [GBP] in some cases...
Lmao! Those lil bastards fly so far sometimes...they go where you'd never expect em too! You find em eventually. The day you're barefoot or in your socks!😮
Iv done just enuff fret leveling to understand why techs charge what they do , and honestly suprised they dont charge more. Its a real job for sure. Thx for the vid.
You are supposed to knock them out sideways on Fenders pre-1982. Fender would would draw the sideways tanged fret wire across the slot. If you pull them straight up you can chew up the fretboard. Look it up.
Dave I did one fret job, it was the worst 17 hours of my life. That guitar because of its age is a bit special. Now for a 2003 or the like I would just buy a neck. There a big price range and that was Leo Fenders reason for the bolt on neck. I heard that but not from Leo. I been putting new necks on these well played guitars. Super or crazy glue in the runny type is very hard to find. I only have the gel type, that makes these kinds of jobs impossible.
Dave, next time you check the radius of this nicely bent fret wire, don't use the gauge, measure its diameter. It should be two times the radius of the fretboard, 2*7,25" = 14.5" = 368.3 mm. :-)
Sorry for the zombie comment on a nearly two year old video, but it seemed appropriate. I saw a '70's maple board Strat in a music store once which had been re-fretted, and there was about an eighth of an inch of filler and glue on either side of each fret. I asked about it. The guy who owned the shop shook his head, and said, "That's what happens when you try to take Fender frets out the top of the fretboard. They were driven in from the side at the factory, and that's the only way they can be removed without ruining the fretboard." I've been afraid ever since of trying a re-fret on a maple board guitar. Have you ever heard of this?
Yup. Saw J. Geils twice in '72 or so. A great live band, absolutely tight but could put on a show.. Their vinyl of that era was far better than their sales. Early MTV provided a bit of payback. J. Geils was that rarity, a great ensemble guitar player. Lots of great bands back then. If you were catching shows in Detroit you might have seen Cactus. I saw them open for Black Sabbath summer of '70 in Syracuse.
dave can i give you a tip? around 26 min in, you are peeling off the tape from every fret. you could run one strip from the headstock to the heel, right up against the finger board and attach all of those individual pieces to that one long piece...should be a lot easier to peel that one piece off
Hello Dave...just wondering if you can check my modified Squier Strat....not that there's any big problem with it...but I really love the way you work on your guitars......let me know what you think,,,,Cheers from Vancouver.
Hey Dave, you can find that fret bender at guitarbuilderonline.com. Doesn't look like he has the fret end file available though. Looks like he's out of Ottawa.
Dave ,Does the serial number begin with L ? if so its a pre CBS but that's unlikely since CBS bought fender in 65 that year has mixed Fender& CBS serial numbers.
Dave, was that water you squirted on the frets before heating them up? Just wondered. I have an old Fender from the early 80's that someday soon is gonna need some new frets. Seemed like what you did to remove them worked pretty good! Thanks!☺
I got my 63 jag and 61 jazzmaster refrets, and every year or so, one of the higher frets.. around 13 or 15 on each guitar starts to pop out and fret buzz happens. I've had them fixed twice by the people who did the original fret jobs (very reputable repair guys), yet the problem keeps occurring..
Elephantricity sounds like both necks have the in-famous Fender "hump" wherein the fretboard warps from the nature of the bolt-on assembly of the neck to the body. It often occurs anywhere from the 15th to 21st fret. I have seen this happen as seasons change -- the hump disappears during drier, hotter seasons and re-appears during wetter seasons. As the fretboard shifts the fret pops loose. Leveling the fretboard before re-fretting or giving it a heat press treatment are the only ways to get rid of the hump. The former being more permanent. It may also be possible that the fret tang is too small for the fret slots? Most newer fret wire have beefy tangs relative to vintage Fender frets so that's a long shot. Hope you can get it sorted.
Dave, no matter what kinda day I have, watching you do your thing with witty commentary always brings a smile to my morose face
Every Dave video I watch I just press "like" right away. It's always a treat!
Fantastic video. Thanks Dave, you made my whole day. I could only dream of playing a 66 Strat let alone doing any kind of work on it. You really are the man when it comes to repair.
Dave, thanks for reminiscing and conveying your lifelong appreciation for the J. Geils Band--THE best party band there'll ever be--period! I grew up with their music in the Boston area, their actual home town, but they spent so much time with their massive and loyal following in Detroit that they really had dual-home-towns. I was also profoundly saddened with J. Geils' recent passing... it truly marks the end of an era. Thanks for sharing!
Dave I'm 5 minutes in and my heart is still in my mouth watching you do this to a collectable 66 neck.... I have confidence in you but still....major work being done.
Dave, thanks for the great episode of your show!!!!!
My respect just grew to officially 'mad' proportions...ya got Big Balls Dave. Much respect to you! Thanks for demonstrating...great video.
Working on a 51 year old strat, I'd need 2 new nuts before I even started the job.
Love what you do Dave and very nice fret job on the ol 66 strat !!!
Thanks for the great video, Dave!
Refretting, and all within, is a true craft - I enjoy the work and process my self!
I truly enjoy watching your videos, to see what new instruments you are working on :-)
Keep it up and have a great day.
Cheers.
I love the stories that you share with us about your past and funny stories and innuendos about things
I'm watching an Allman Brothers Band retrospective on TV and watching Dave work on guitars on my laptop. Life is good.
great video Dave. all new stuff for me , a casual observer who would dream of trying that sort of job.
Dave is pure gold to watch, just pure fucking gold
Thanks, Dave. I got mellow during that, which is good. A few years back, I gave my 65 Tele to an ancient local luthier with a good reputation. He put a lot of love into it, and sadly passed away a couple of months afterwards. I still think of him when I play it.
Saw J Giles farewell concert at Pine Knob. Great show, place was packed.
Dave to help not loosing the ends of the frets while cutting them off (so as to not have one jump up and scratch the finish) you can put a dab of silicon or tub sealer on the back side of each cutting edge and when you cut the piece it is captured in place.
beautiful guitar - total classic. Nice work Dave.
Your right about J. Geils in Detroit Dave. They played a pop festival at the Fairgrounds their first time stopping by and nobody could get enough of them. That first album was a killer! They put on a fantastic show. J, Magic Dick and Peter Wolf great times. Excellent videos always enjoy your stuff. Doing a rebuild on a 63 Melody Maker that had a fret abortion and sat unstrung for a decade or better. Youv've been a big help, THANKS
Noticed the scalloped fret board. Now that is a well worn much loved neck. Very cool.
Your bench looks nice and organized today Dave!
Great video Dave. Thanks brother.
Kick ass channel!!!!!!!!.........I learn so much from Dave!!!!!! Thanx Man!!!!!!!!!!
Great video, thanks Dave...
First time I saw J Geils Band was here in Toledo I think around 1970. They were great.
Ok, I stopped at 4:13 because I'm working and I REALLY want to see this process. So I'm definitely tuning back in tonight. But up until 2:57 there is no talking until he says, "ok, probably not a lot of talking in this one"....lol classic Dave!!!
i really like doing refrets for some reason
i think it's because there's a certain "zen" to the repetitive nature of it. Plus, each job has its own funny little quirks.
Thanks man! This really worked for me. I got the frets off of a 40 year old Japanese LP I bought for $50 no problem. Really happy with the result. Now I just have to get new frets on :)
This is one of your best vids. Very informative. Thanks!
I concur, J Geils Band, whatta great band. Still vividly remember the show I saw back in '77 as a teenager with Kiss, Bob Seger and some shit Southern rock band. JGB blew them all away. Oh yeah, great job on that Strat! Dave, your attention to detail and artistic touch are a pleasure to behold.
23:28 Every guy over 40 flinched when they heard that sound... lol...
Song of the day Archie Bell & the Drells - "Do the Tighten up" LOL
Ozzy Pete I flinched and I'm only 28, but then again I have been arrested.
Greetings from northern Ontario - thanks for the very informative demo. By the way, loved the McKenna Mendelson Mainline shirt you were wearing. Brought me back to the Jubilee Pavillion in the late 60’s, early 70’s.Saw them play there a few times. Cheers!
Lol it's all fun and games on a rosewood board, but the fun dries up real quick when it's lacquered maple. Love the vids man ;)
Looks like some new tools from Shat MaX. Great Video Dave.
Incredible job!!!
Absolute gem of a Strat. Cheers, Dave.
Something relaxing about watching you work on these instruments. I just might attempt setting up an old guitar I have, see if any of this is contagious.....cheers
BOY THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT JOB DAVE THAT NECK AND FINGER BOARD LOOKED YOUNG AGAIN
"That my friends is... is a real excellent guess". I love that. When you are good you can eyeball it no problem. I have a long way to go.
Yo Dave!
I have learned so much from you. It’s been a pleasure to learn from you. I learned a trick that you probably already know.
Here Goes…
The early Fenders were fretted by pushing the frets from the side….. you can tap the frets out from the side. They come out clean with no chipping.
Fender stopped that method sometime in the late 70s.
Check it out! Thanks! Big Fan!
Woah,,, refreting a 66.. How cool..Save those frets for me Dave... I want to reuse them on mine..Need some of that mid 60's mojo. Save the smutz too. We'll package it and call it neck butter.
Great video Dave!!!
Cheers Casper
Thank you for the videos. I thought I could work on my own guitars before I found your channel. Now, I do a much better job.
Hey Dave... I got that same fret bending tool. From Canada somewhere a few years ago. My wife is from Ottawa so I like to support Canada where I can (we are moving there in a few years once my wife finishes her Masters here in the UK). Great job :)
Thanks for the video Dave! how long did it take you start to finish?
It's a tech secret that no-one knows! I spend a good 10 hours or more on a re-fret/level/crown/polish. Though it could be done in less, I like to take my time to do it right. Id Dave is charging $150 for this, that is really cheap. My prices start at £125.00 [GBP] + fret-wire cost (on an coustic) rising to £250.00 [GBP] in some cases...
@@FretFriendGWaL With a new nut that's a $325 job here in Connecticut. You guys are cheating yourselves
Lmao! Those lil bastards fly so far sometimes...they go where you'd never expect em too! You find em eventually. The day you're barefoot or in your socks!😮
Iv done just enuff fret leveling to understand why techs charge what they do , and honestly suprised they dont charge more. Its a real job for sure. Thx for the vid.
An excellent job looks like it’s going to sound amazing
You are supposed to knock them out sideways on Fenders pre-1982. Fender would would draw the sideways tanged fret wire across the slot. If you pull them straight up you can chew up the fretboard. Look it up.
I wondered the same thing.
It looks like it was re-fretted at least once in it's life before Dave had it here
Well done Dave.
a white sg and now a 66 strat refret? dream come true
Very true but what did Sam sing?
wingracer 16 Took me a sec...
Well crafted video Dave. I didn't catch but hopefully you put on stainless steel frets :)
Nice work Mr. Dave! I pooped my pants a little too just in case ;>)
Feel the same way about J.Geils, Levon Helm and Dick Wagner to name a couple. Nice work Dave, keep on truckin'.
you are the man.
I have seen the The J Geils band as support act of the Rolling Stones in June 4th 1982 in Holland..... They where great
Dave's world of agonizing guitar repairs. the fretboard ;D
J. Geils truly was the best live band I ever saw . Just search Whammer Jammer and you'll see .
now that is a repair. awesome
btw, don't use 3m tape, glue is too good to come off easy, use the harbor freight/princess auto tape.
Nice work Dave
now I gots to know what a 1966 Stratocaster is worth, thanks Dave......
Very cool !
First J. Giles Band album I ever heard was Live: Full House. They kicked all sorts of ass.
Very cool
About $7,000 to $11,000, Dave.
Too rich for my blood. I'd be too afraid I'd bugger it (literally or figuratively, either way).
Dave I did one fret job, it was the worst 17 hours of my life. That guitar because of its age is a bit special. Now for a 2003 or the like I would just buy a neck. There a big price range and that was Leo Fenders reason for the bolt on neck. I heard that but not from Leo. I been putting new necks on these well played guitars. Super or crazy glue in the runny type is very hard to find. I only have the gel type, that makes these kinds of jobs impossible.
You are brilliant wish you were in Ireland
I would have never thought to heat up up the frets to remove them thanks
Dave, next time you check the radius of this nicely bent fret wire, don't use the gauge, measure its diameter. It should be two times the radius of the fretboard, 2*7,25" = 14.5" = 368.3 mm. :-)
Hey Dave great vids man,did you put a slight backbow in the neck before taking the frets out? \m/
oh yeah another great guitar on ur bench digging the luthiery and ballsack comments
Nice work, Dave.
'66 fret job wow ........\m/ ...... don't talk stay focused .....
Sorry for the zombie comment on a nearly two year old video, but it seemed appropriate. I saw a '70's maple board Strat in a music store once which had been re-fretted, and there was about an eighth of an inch of filler and glue on either side of each fret. I asked about it. The guy who owned the shop shook his head, and said, "That's what happens when you try to take Fender frets out the top of the fretboard. They were driven in from the side at the factory, and that's the only way they can be removed without ruining the fretboard." I've been afraid ever since of trying a re-fret on a maple board guitar. Have you ever heard of this?
Yup. Saw J. Geils twice in '72 or so. A great live band, absolutely tight but could put on a show.. Their vinyl of that era was far better than their sales. Early MTV provided a bit of payback. J. Geils was that rarity, a great ensemble guitar player. Lots of great bands back then. If you were catching shows in Detroit you might have seen Cactus. I saw them open for Black Sabbath summer of '70 in Syracuse.
Indeed he is!
He's our Motown hometown Gtr hero…;-)
File to fit, paint to match.
About $12-15k depending, btw
23:28 BAHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Too Funny Dave!
The way fender puts their fret wire in...fml
Love these vids, Dave! What's the pucker factor working on a vintage instrument like that?
nice and neat job
Nice one mate! Im in a need for a refret on my ol' gretsch, but how do you do it with a binded neck like my japanese Gretsch 6120? Cheers from sweden!
Dave, would this neck be fretted from the side like fender used to do originally years ago.? Luv ya Dave. Cheers Rob.
dave can i give you a tip? around 26 min in, you are peeling off the tape from every fret. you could run one strip from the headstock to the heel, right up against the finger board and attach all of those individual pieces to that one long piece...should be a lot easier to peel that one piece off
Dave's World of Fun Stuff how about a piece of electrical tape?
"Surrender" from the Monkey Island record, great tune!
Hello Dave...just wondering if you can check my modified Squier Strat....not that there's any big problem with it...but I really love the way you work on your guitars......let me know what you think,,,,Cheers from Vancouver.
@@DavesWorldofFunStuff How about I send the guitar to you? Or....spring/summer would be a nice time to visit...thanks Dave.
14:16 - Fuckin' way she goes!
Dave,did you ever jam with Segarini back in the day?
Hey Dave! Did you find that there is a very significant quality difference between this Strat and new USA Strats? Or not. Thank you!!
2000 grit. Honey, you won’t feel a thing!
Where is the patreon for the cooking videos? Now there is something I'd contribute to.
Hey Dave, you can find that fret bender at guitarbuilderonline.com. Doesn't look like he has the fret end file available though. Looks like he's out of Ottawa.
Aren't these frets (from vintage Fenders) supposed to be taken out (and put in) the side not from the top?
talking begins at 2:51
YEAH I WAS WONDERING WHY YOU WERE NOT TALKING! HAHAHA
Dave, When you removed the frets what wattage iron do you use? Thanks for the videos they are great !!!
Is that water squirted on before the fret is heated with the iron.
Dave's World of Fun Stuff Thankyou
What a 66 strat worth? Well one sold on ebay last month for $8500, and it looks like it went through a war.
Dave ,Does the serial number begin with L ? if so its a pre CBS but that's unlikely since CBS bought fender in 65 that year has mixed Fender& CBS serial numbers.
Dave, was that water you squirted on the frets before heating them up? Just wondered. I have an old Fender from the early 80's that someday soon is gonna need some new frets. Seemed like what you did to remove them worked pretty good! Thanks!☺
Dave's World of Fun Stuff that's cool! I learn something new every day! Thanks a lot!👍😎
wow!!
I got my 63 jag and 61 jazzmaster refrets, and every year or so, one of the higher frets.. around 13 or 15 on each guitar starts to pop out and fret buzz happens. I've had them fixed twice by the people who did the original fret jobs (very reputable repair guys), yet the problem keeps occurring..
Elephantricity sounds like both necks have the in-famous Fender "hump" wherein the fretboard warps from the nature of the bolt-on assembly of the neck to the body. It often occurs anywhere from the 15th to 21st fret. I have seen this happen as seasons change -- the hump disappears during drier, hotter seasons and re-appears during wetter seasons. As the fretboard shifts the fret pops loose. Leveling the fretboard before re-fretting or giving it a heat press treatment are the only ways to get rid of the hump. The former being more permanent.
It may also be possible that the fret tang is too small for the fret slots? Most newer fret wire have beefy tangs relative to vintage Fender frets so that's a long shot.
Hope you can get it sorted.
Elephantricity id try a different guy and see.