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November 25, 1963 - Lee Harvey Oswald Funeral in Fort Worth, Texas - Various clips
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You are under the mistaken impression that no one other than Lee Harvey Oswald left the Texas School Book Depository at the time of President Kennedy’s assassination. The following persons who also worked at TSBD left the building without notifying building supervisor Roy Truly:
Danny Arce, 18, left at 1:00 pm, accompanied by the police, to go to City Hall.
Carolyn Arnold, 20, left at 12:25 pm and did not return.
Virgie Rachley, 18, left at 11:45 am and returned at 12:40 pm but was denied entry.
Jack Carson, 56, president of TSBD, left at 12:10 pm and did not return.
Betty Drago, 27, left at 12:20 pm but found the door locked when she returned. She stayed outside TSBD until 2:30 pm before going home.
Buell Wesley Frazier, 19, famously gave Oswald a lift to work that day. He left TSBD between 1:00 and 2:00 pm, about the same time Truly claims he made his roll call.
Charles Givens, 38, returned to TSBD after the shooting but was refused entry by a Dallas policeman. An APB was put out for him, and he was later interviewed at City Hall by Captain Will Fritz.
Truly was aware of Given’s absence, having seen him prior to the assassination. Truly also saw Oswald prior to his encounter with him in the second-floor lunchroom.
Using that logic, Oswald should have been exonerated as well.
Gloria Holt, 18, left at 12:10 pm and did not return.
Stella Jacob, 20, left at noon and did not return.
Judy Johnson, 20, was standing outside TSBD when the shooting began.
She remained in the area until 2:00 pm then went home.
Dolores Kounas, 32, left at 12:15 pm and stayed outside until 3:00 pm.
Sharon Nelson, 19, left at 12:20 pm and never returned. She lived at 409 East 9th Street, near the site where Officer J.D. Tippit was gunned down.
Roberta Parker, 55, left at a time unknown, and said she wasn’t allowed back in until 3:30 pm.
Bonnie Richey, 20, left the building at 12:20 pm and never returned.
Lloyd Viles, 41, left at 12:15 pm and returned at 2:55 pm.
Vida Whatley, 45, left at 12:15 pm to go shopping. She tried to re-enter TSBD at 1:00 pm but was denied entry by the police. She went home.
Bonnie Ray Williams, 20, accompanied Arce to the police station at 1:00 pm.
Wow
So sad for that family, their shock, humiliation. They were left to cope with the aftermath. Death truly is hardest on the living.
While LBJ and his family lived like millionaires
@@giovannidibravato5576 yes.
The Oswald children turned into good, responsible adults.
@@steveshapiro326 that’s good to know. Still, the history of one’s parent would give any child pause. They grew up under a shadow and I’m thinking that must have been painful.
@@p38lightworker26 Indeed painful. It must be like a stain that won't go away even though you're 100% innocent.
Sad time in our history 🙏🏻
Thank you so much Patriots.
What happened to being innocent until proven guilty??
That doesn't apply when you're framed.
That standard applies only to the living.
@@joelrios4051 No evidence of a frame-up. If you disagree, then provide the names of the framers, those founding fathers of JFK assassinology. Fifty-nine plus years should be enough time to gather that information. Yes yes?
My heart goes out to his family. They were innocent in all this.
Weird….
The US Secret SVC paid for His funeral🤔
Least they could do...
Not sure they paid. But awfully weird that they would have been the ones to make funeral arrangements, that's for sure!
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Not true.
"Pathetic mourners", says the narrator. They're called family!!
Ikr
I heard that too.. His family didn’t do anything to deserve that disrespect..
I wasn't aware until watching the movie "Parkland" about his funeral, and thought for sure the way it was portrayed had to be fictitious. Nope, the reporters that showed up indeed helped act as pallbearers. I don't care what someone may or may not have done, every family deserves a respectable funeral for their loved ones. His brother never doubted his guilt, but at the same time his brother was there for him even at the end. I can respect that.
I like that the newscaster back then referred to Lee Oswald as the "alleged" assassin of President Kennedy. I still refer to him as that. And not for a moment do I believe he was otherwise
I've watched many videos , documentaries, films and spoken to many. Is the video you suggest different?
Okay, then why did Oswald shoot officer Tippet in front of witnesses, if he didn't kill Kennedy? Back then, journalists told us what happened, not what to think about it.
i dont think he shot anyone but i think he knew what was going down.and he was a patsy imo and alot of peoples opinion.
@@daviddowns7552 yes, many don't seem to realize his age. He was 24. Well, what 24 year old wouldn't want to play "secret agent" with the big boys? He was adventurous for sure, a step above inactive and most people love playing secret! However, he was doubtless naive and that naivete led to his death. It would be interesting to have a conversation with him because he was far from.unintelligent, but that was WHY he was eliminated. I think you are quite right. He likely realized too late the scale of the game he was in and surely that video of him saying he shot no one was sincere in my view.
@@nickfraser4599,i agree.✓
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That is our system of Justice. He never got his day in court and is therefore innocent of any legal charges, as he did not get an opportunity to defend himself. He was a very articulate and informed person as evidenced by his radio debates. Public opinion concerning his guilt is just that, opinion. There are many questions concerning the authorities handling of evidence and ignoring witnesses. I have my doubts as many others do, concerning the events of that terrible day in November, especially in light of what has been revealed concerning the government authorities behavior over the past 30 years.
Rest In Peace, Lee Oswald!
Remember watching this.....gratitude to newsmen pall bearers...
Have never believed he was the assassin.
@ruthcummings588 That you've had nearly 60 years and still are unable to tell us who *_was_* the assassin, is a concession that it was indeed Oswald.
@@stddisclaimer8020 OH and your response to @ruthcummings. Is absolutely ridiculous, and untrue. Her comment gives absolutely no "consession" or whatever word you intended there, that it was LHO. You came to that conclusion bc you can't find any other answers or haven't tried to maybe. Look and you'll see.
@@Gigi1111Layna Stop playing the mouthpiece for another. For your "answers," try the well-documented conclusion of Oswald-alone as established across multiple major investigations. Now you go and *_concede_* that....
@@stddisclaimer8020 Who the actual assassins were…..I don’t know. But what’s most important is who was actually behind the assassination, who organized and carried it out. The answer to that is the CIA and LBJ.
@@Gigi1111Layna There is a great amount of circumstantial evidence that points to the CIA and LBJ. In fact, MOST criminal convictions are based on circumstantial evidence. FACTS.
'We are not here to judge'
By the statement you already judged him guilty
You must remember that statement was made just days after the assassination and Oswald's "guilt" was proclaimed openly. So the statement AT THAT TIME openly was against such judgement
@@nickfraser4599 when I always hear a comment like that about soksekje who has died its more like 'judge not less thee be judged' meaning he thinks he's guilty but its uo to God to sort it out..
@@scottaznavourian3720 ok
IF ONLY HE STILL HAD THAT TIME MACHINE HE WOULD BE HERE NOW....
1:42 seems fitting. I wonder if there are any interviews or statements of the reporters or newsmen that carried Oswald’s coffin? If you have any information I’d appreciate it thanks
You will find interview by searching on google: lee harvey oswald pallbearers
@@HelmerReenberg thanks for all that you do! Keeping the memories alive for us who weren’t alive during the “Camelot” era
Harvey was a former US Marine. He should have been given a basic military funeral. After all, he was not convicted of murder or sent to prison at the time of his death.
Exactly, as much as I love JFK and am totally enthralled with everything yet, I was nowhere near a thought, let alone born in that Era. Yes, innocent until proven guilty. But not these days either as it shows. Unless your a Clunton or Paul Pelosi or obriben..
@@Gigi1111Layna I hear ya!
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His dishonorable discharge from the Marines prevented a military funeral.
I would've been at your funeral Os
Sad story 😢
Who was the lady that popped in at the end? Sylvia Odio?
Terribly sad.
One thing that is always forgotten. Lee Harvey Oswald died and went to his grave an innocent man ,,,
I don't forget. And there are others too, who don't forget. The evil that killed him needs to be exposed to the light of Day.
I second that...Easier for many to be a sheep and go along with the given narrative? The man never got his day in Court PERIOD. In the U.S. you are suppose to be innocent until proven guilty. I have my doubts that he even murdered J.D. Tippit...Far from airtight on either cases. Too many body bags containing witnesses...Helen Kilgalen being one.(excuse misspelling) You can look around you (if you are AWAKE) and see the aftermath of November of 63.
@munnjean Innocent man?. The vast preponderance of evidence points to Oswald and to no other person or group.
@@stddisclaimer8020 typical ,, use the law only when it suits ,,, the law in your fucked up country is quite clear ,,, innocent until proved guilty in a court of law ,,, whether you like it or not !!
@@munnjean That the presumption of innocence is applicable only to the living, is a principle implicit within U.S. jurisprudence. Those who have died before trial are judged, but in the court of public opinion on the basis of the preponderance of the evidence, which in this case, points inextricably to Oswald and him alone. You should not have dropped out of law school so soon.
Okay, weird things weird, from a car guy though; the hearse appears to be a 1961 Cadillac Superior Coach.
Carlos Hathcock tried to duplicate the shot with the same style bolt action rifle and he could not get the shots off in the correct time frame.
@raytycker1656. But he wasn't trying so hard to do what Oswald or any reasonably competent shooter could have done. Carlos "BULLseye" Hathcock was trying much harder to provide ammo for lame conspiracy "theories."
Never fired a shot that day.
His body language said a lot that day when interviewed by the Press but the Great Satan already picked him to be the fall guy/patsy
I bet in the Next life he took care of LBJ and the rest of the demons at the CIA who framed him
"Never fired a shot that day."
It has never been proven that Oswald didn't fire any shots that day.
@@Caeruleo True. Preponderance of the evidence points that way.
@@ralphgilson9989 "True. Preponderance of the evidence points that way."
The way you worded your reply by starting it with "True" suggests that you are now agreeing with me that it has never been proven that Oswald didn't fire any shots that day. ;-)
If you meant the opposite then I don't agree. I've been studying this assassination for 34 years and I know quite well that the preponderance of the evidence does indeed suggest that it is more likely than not that he did fire at least some of the shots that day.
@@Caeruleo I also have read many books and I am certain that Lee Oswald did not fire a shot that day. I'll leave it at that.
Poor guy was an innocent pawn!
The two most evil men in my lifetime were Lyndon Johnson and Warren Commission
You think warren commission was a man? 😅😅😅
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@@ryans9029🤣
They say Warren was so egotistical and evil, that he demanded people call him "Mr. Commission".
That would be more than 2 men, Mr. Wizard.
What did that guy get himself caught up in. Holy smokes they had him positioned from way back I feel .
I thought about that. I really did. If Oswald was to be a patsy it was mandatory he not be seen during the assassination. And If Oswald knew about the coming assassination then his best protection was to be seen but as he wasn't it's very likely he did not know what was going down. There may have been other potential patsies who unknowingly were also in the vicinity that could have been used. For an operation like this I don't for a minute believe they put all their eggs in one basket. Just a thought.
Yeap seems that way that's why you have to watch everything and everyone around you at all times
They buried a victim, not an assassin.
youre out of your mind
You live under powerlines don’t you
32 thumbs up for a terrible comments goes to prove mostly thumbs up comments are trolls
@@chestrockwell6807 HW. Bush had it done. Oswald was a patsy.
@@raytycker1656 nah. I say it was space aliens LOL
So the secrunt service contacted them for the burial.....there you have it. Another blip in the long history of federal/dod involvement.
Now that's a video idea: Find the Newsman who were the pallbearers and their descendants. They had to yap to someone
Better hurry up because it will be 60 years in November . Most of them are probably deceased by now .
Momentous times!
Oswald's body was later exhumed to verify that it was truly him and as with everything concerning this , the concrete vault which contained the casket was found to have been cracked and there was extensive water damage and the examiners did find suspicious surgical tracings around his head, which were attributed to his autopsy. (why he needed an autopsy is beyond me and why would they have to examine his head when we all know he died of a gunshot.)
Legal requirement for any sudden death
He wasn't shot. He didn't die at that time.
@@toddr.448 wrong. that's a weird theory. but ok. if you are saying that person was an Oswald double, then maybe .
@@alpha-omega2362 I want to see the bloody shirt with bullets holes in it. But that's just me.
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Where were the Murrets and the Pics? It’s so sad.
RIP Mr O
Do you think Oswald is innocent? Why? Why not?
I really do not know, but it sure looks like he was a pasty, I do believe that others were involved. we will never know.
Burying an INNOCENT man.
@MagnetOnlyMotors No. Burying the lone assassin aka your idol.
@@stddisclaimer8020lone assasin?? Lol... There were others, Fool.
4:35 - I wonder if that Rambler station wagon is light green 🤔 😳 🤔🤔
It was cause I had A 1960 4 door Rambler, turn the key & push the button on the dashboard to start the car, that car was great I had until 1978 it was like a tank heavy and full of chrome, I loved that car it even had the Rumble seats. 👍👍👍👍👍
I wonder if that lone woman is Ruth Paine?
In the car, or out of the car? It's possible I suppose
@barto 4678 Witnesses firmly ID'd Oswald on his actual escape route, via bus and cab a the time Roger Craig claimed to have seen "Rambler Man." Oswald still had the time-stamped bus transfer in his pocket when he was arrested. And FBI and Dallas police. records proved Mrs. Paine's car was a Chevrolet, not a Rambler
Johnson and Hoover got away with murder.
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Ain't no one in that casket.
@todd.448 Sure, ain't no one in the casket but us chickens. So stop your fightin' and stop your fuss. Ain't no body there but *_us_* .
He was exhumed in 1981 and numerous and confirmed it was Oswald in the grave. I don't always 100% believe what the media has to say, I will give them the benefit of the doubt in this case.
Lee to the H O wheres oswaldo? Grassy nole or the museum
Who is buried in Oswald's tomb? Did anybody see any blood when he was shot? Why was he all of a sudden wearing a sweater that day? I'm not positing anything necessarily---just posing questions.
I remember hearing a story from a former military man about being on a military flight out of Dallas including a passenger who looked just like Oswald. They landed at an Arizona base. There are also stories about witnesses who saw Oswald being led out the back door of the cinema after he was arrested----while newsmen photographed an Oswald being led out the front door. A lot of weird stuff going on in Dallas that day.
Ulysses Grant.
Jimmy Hoffa
Should’ve had a military funeral former Marine?🇺🇸👍
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Who were complete incompetents and disgraces to their country due to failure to protect the president? 0:05
...or were complicit...
Failure? They set him up. You have the internet but don't know how to use it? Or read the book 'JFK and the Unspeakable' by Douglass I believe.
@@badmanskill1112 you’re most probably right and thanks for the recommendation. I don’t always state what I believe the truth is because some folk call us crazy conspiracy theorists but nowadays majority of people are openly voicing out their suspicions and it’s about time I did the same
Ever notice that the people who tell you you are crazy or speaking nonsense refer to those of us who speak our minds because our sense of justice is offended are the actual ones who are critical? Yet they refer to us as "critics". By their epithets ye shall know them (and ignore them.or call them out...)
@@alfredfreedomjones5105 just ask them if they still believe there were WMD in Iraq. I mean the government would never lie in their world, right?
SMJ....HIS DAUGHTER
He was working for the CIA, I guess.
During the weekend of the assassination, director John McCone wrote a memo referring to Oswald as an "asset" -- meaning Oswald worked for the agency. That was revealed in 1995 (and was ignored, of course, by the gov't and the media).
@@cedarabbey yep
I think people within the CIA, yes. Very likely but also the FBI figures in his narrative, what little we have of it. Suggests heavy characters at the heart of this operation with lines into the intelligence AND police communities.
@@stddisclaimer8020 scumbag paedocop.
@@carlrylander396 Speak for yourself....
He said proxy
Punk
LHO shot NOBODY!
@Jasona1976 Your comment is a facile and empty slogan devoid of meaningful thought. It's supported by no evidence whatsoever and refuted by all the actual evidence.
@@stddisclaimer8020 grandpa got a thesaurus. Try again.
@@Jasona1976 Idiot latched on to a fake conspiracy. Try another one...
@@stddisclaimer8020 All you have, or will ever have, are idiotic insults. Move along, you lose...again.
@@Jasona1976 Looks as though someone, lacking any valid argument, also lacks a thesaurus. (Hint: slogans are not arguments.)
I'm not about to get into guilt(I think he was) or innocence. But Marina & those 2 girls weren't guilty of anything. I think the youngest was only a couple of months old, I think. What could she possibly have been guilty of?
Does his tombstone say "Patsy"..?
Its simply reads “Oswald.”
@wisecracker1814 : No, but Patsy Cline's sure does.
@@stddisclaimer8020 2nd floor at 12:30
He was also the alleged murderer of Officer Tippitt.
There were doubts to that as well as you know...Look at Ms. Acquila Clemons...You hit the nail on the head. Alleged.
@@jackpalance9509 Two eyewitnesses - Helen Markham and Jack Tatum, saw Oswald shoot Tippit. Three others - William Scoggins, Barbara Davis, and Virginia Davis - were in the immediate vicinity and saw Oswald flee the crime scene. Six other eyewitnesses - Ted Callaway, Sam Guinyard, B.M. Patterson, L.J. Lewis, Harold Russell, and Warren Reynolds - were within two blocks of the shooting and saw Oswald brandishing a pistol, attempting to conceal it, and fleeing the area. No "doubts" about it.
@@jackpalance9509 Your hammer missed the target entirely. A dozen (i.e. 12) witnesses *_nailed_* Oswald (and no other person) for the Tippit murder. Cite another criminal case where twelve eye-witnesses were completely wrong. Take an eternity to answer; you'll need it.
@@stddisclaimer8020 And how many people got nailed (died suspiciously) with ties to the case? Answer-plenty. I don't care who said what. People tend to say what they have to to stay alive....Hats off to Acquila Clemons for bucking the official narrative. Big thing to do for a single black woman to do in the South in the early 60's. I have volumes of books on the subject, but I am in the process of moving and they are all packed up. If you were threatened or perhaps your family you would likely fall in line to. Acquila didn't...As to LHO being lone assassin, I say Boulder dash. To many eye witnesses heard shots coming from the knoll and lost their lives because of it. As to Oswald's iron clad guilt, I don't see it. The Warren commission was a joke spearheaded by the Gangster LBJ. HE (out of many)had the most to gain from Kennedys death. There have been people who have came out with information to the contrary of LHO being guilty. Did you ever hear the story of James Files? Read Lee and Me? Probably not. You just want to see it ONE WAY. I say the verdict is far from rendered. Good evening.
@@jackpalance9509 Regarding the "mysterious" deaths of "witnesses" to the assassination, even the most cursory examination of the stories shows how essentially foolish they are. A good many of the deaths hardly seem mysterious in that they were caused by auto accidents, heart attacks, and other phenomena that afflict our entire population. Moreover, before we could tell whether the number of these deaths is in any way unusual, we would have to know the number of equally "mysterious" deaths that occurred to people completely unconnected with the assassination. But even apart from any statistical refutation, the theory that a set of conspirators was devoted to wiping out a host of unimportant witnesses is almost too silly to be put forth. There is not the slightest indication that any of the "victims" have had anything to tell, at least that they had not already told; and indeed the deaths seem concentrated among those who bore only the most peripheral relation to the assassination. When one stops to consider that almost each one of the "mysterious" deaths requires the recruitment of at least one and often several new conspirators, it would seem that, like the pyramid club, the conspiracy would be getting bigger and bigger rather than smaller. One would think that in light of what had happened to those who knew too much it would get very difficult to recruit new members into the conspiracy. And it’s telling to add that in 59 years, not one member of this supposed vast kill-a-witness gang has ever come forth to spill a single word. Amazing!
Aside from that, you betray your true low caliber by dredging up a number of stale conspiracy-crap talking points (characters, books etc.) that have been debunked more times than you've spread bunk; which is to say, a lot
Oswald freaked out once the cia and mob threw him under the bus to take all the blame.
“Pathetic group of mourners….”, lol.
After almost 60 years, the truth would have come out by now. He was alone, the entire way. His brother testified to that and his brother would know. For those who think anyone else was involved: KEEP ON PRETENDING.
Funny the limo had more bullet holes in it than Swiss cheese! Wake up!
His brother would know? How do you figure that? I have NO idea what my brother is up to and I doubt your brother knows what YOU are up to. This is assertion, not evidence.
@@nickfraser4599 I guess his "brothers knowledge" was admissable in Court to...Wait, Mr. Oswald was never tried by a jury of his peers! In my book that alone makes him innocent. Again, the jury pool would have been smaller because how many "in the know" died under mysterious circumstances?
Like you?
@@kevinpantera4429 and you counted them did you
good job, Oswald
Excuse me? Such classlessness. Irregardless of what you think of JFK murdering the president of the United States is an immoral act that led to worldwide tragedy
@@alfredfreedomjones5105 Irregardless is not a word
The words used by the narrator may be a little cold, but remember...this country was in a Cold War with the Soviet Union, a potential nuclear holocaust was averted, racial inequality rallies and protests (culminating in the assassinations of Malcolm X and MLK Jr)...Vietnam (IMO one of the very reasons JFK was "eliminated")...very insecure people in the early sixties. And the man...in many people's eyes...that was credited with the aversion was shot and killed in cold blood. This man was also the President of the United States. Trying times and a lot of pissed off, scared Americans that lost their leader. No matter what is said or known about JFK, at THAT time in our history he was the one that most looked to for answers on a LOT of touchy subjects. Now, he was murdered. They weren't thinking conspiracy. They heard the name Oswald being blamed for the assassination of their President, a TON of confusion and hatred for Oswald at that moment. So, it ws not out of place to hear Oswald referred to as "the dead man" in 1963. We should have been more pissed at Ruby for killing him before he could be afforded a proper trial. What truly makes me ill is that Johnson was never officially questioned in this whole thing. He KNEW what was going on. He KNEW everything. Who, what, where, when and WHY. But it is not the narrator's fault for the chill in his voice.
how soon did the adult bookstores open?
did Charles Manson get to see this on tv?