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The push is to wean you over to full frame I suppose but how many wedding photographers are there actually out there who may actually need lenses for the reincarnation of this old 35mm film frame size in the digital age? Phones are getting good results out of tiny sensors so this belated go big fad seems more of a death rattle from a dying industry. Who really needs eyelash length depth of field? The future to me looks more and more like m43 for the hobbyist and 35mm for the specialist and uber rich. Olympus seems to have been the next company after Samsung to see the light and exit but at least Olympus handed it over to a company geared to keep things going in the new environment. The old guard companies plod on fingers crossed hoping it will all get better one day and everyone can just throw away their old lenses and buy a whole heap of new ones. All change all change, new system yet again.
And as an M system user, I am not impressed. Canon is playing this game to give early buyers slow kit lenses and then bring out the great glass later. I am not going to fall for it. I love my M.
@@BrendanMacWade for me it seems that everybody ignored a major difference between RF-S lenses and EF-M lenses. The EF-M lenses feel and look almost premium, these 2 RF-S lenses are ugly.
Canonwatch article: according to canon representative their sales are 30% from the M system, but they are focused on the RF system. And that perfectly makes sense.
I never understand why they start crop camera kit lens at 27mm or 28mm equivalent. 24mm is so much more useful and isnt that much harder to design. One recent notable exception is the Nikon 16-50mm on the z50 which is sharp and light which shows it can easily be done.
If you're really wondering, it's likely because this will be the lens that people get when they don't know much and/or don't care much. Canon could absolutely make a 16-50mm kit lens, but it would almost certainly cost more, and very few people will care (they have very likely done extensive market research to quantify this fact). Billion dollar companies don't get to be that size by throwing money away :)
@@hrtlsbstrd I think its because they want to sell more 16mm 2.8 lenses to people who want a wider angle than the kit lens provides, ie vloggers. I don't think its a coincidence Canon introduces a cheap wide angle prime lens and then conveniently leaves off the wide angle option from the kit lens.
I don't see this RF-S System as a replacement for the EOS M System as long as the R10 is the samllest option. It is simply not small enough as a complete system for travelling light. I will happily keep my EOS M5 with M lenses even if I will keep my already preordered R10. As landscape photographer I don't need "better" apertures. I prefer the lightweight philosophy. I'm curios how the R10 will pair with my RF 800mm f/11 lens. Hopefully I get the camera before my Nothwest Passage trip begins in August/September. The R10/18-45 kit will serve as lightweight option during the flight when I don't want to grab th bigger anf heavier EOS R equipment.
I agree. Maybe there will be a small rangefinder version, and that would spell the death of M. For the moment, M has it's value and its advantages. I'm sticking with M. I'm never going full frame. So that makes my decision to stick with an old crop system rather easy. I'm a crop sensor guy.
Then wait for the R100 or R1000. I don't know about it, but I think they will follow this scheme. And maybe there is a smaller version without grip as the old EOS M(1) in the future... But for me the R5+RF35 (1.8) is a fine light way.
Hi Gordon, I love your channel by the way. Thanks for your videos. Yes, compatible, but there is little point to buy an aps-c body to use with full-frame lenses (beyond maybe a bump in resolution compared to crop mode). I would just go with Fuji or Sony. But I hope that with time Canon will introduce a full lineup of high grade aps-c RF lenses. Then I am sure it will be an interesting option. Time will tell :)
@@cameralabs true but that system doesn’t have many good options for the R10 in terms of useful focal range, aperture and weight. Now if Canon would have respelled the most popular Eos M lenses it would have been different. The UW zoom 22mm pancake and that recent fast prime I forgot about. Those 3 lenses would have made a much better case here with minimal resources. This release is just too lazy and not competitive compared to what’s out there.
Wow this is disappointing. Completely unacceptable even. Even the 18-55 lenses were at least f5.6 at 55mm and 3.5 or 4 at the wide end. I see more and more of camera manufacturers doing this to make cameras lighter and more portable. This is stupid because phones are ultimately amazing to shoot with and the ultimate in portability. I say make cheap fast primes for newbies on crop, and small fast zooms like the efs 17-55 2.8 Make the point of difference in excellent images and the real deal in shooting on nice glass. Doesn't have to be L standard, but make the experience accessible and they'll upgrade from there. Canon can do better than this for newbies for sure.
The EF-M 18-55 even had a metal mount. Between the EF-M 15-45, EF-M 18-55, the RF-S 18-45 is the most disappointing crop kit lens of the bunch. I see no reason to upgrade from EF-M, but plenty of reasons to start looking at Sony.
@@smithydll The three first EF-M lenses 18-55 mm, 22 mm and 11-22 mm are metal construction. The rest are plastic even though the 32 mm does have a metal mount. But the 15-45 even though plastic is superior to the 18-55 mm.
Genuine question: the EOS M5 came out a few years ago - is there any significant difference in image quality between that and the R10? With lenses as unappealing as this I doubt they can get superior performance from the newer sensor even if it is better. Would love to see an M v R blind test with kit lenses / adapted 50mm 1.8 STM
Canon complains about chip and raw material shortages then has the audacity to release lenses like these. Ironically, this one translates to almost 28-70 of FF equivalent...the same focal range as that of their possibly proudest achievement.
Would I be correct to assume that this lens is sharper than 18-150mm as needs less optical compromise? Which kit lens seems sharper? R7 is sold in UK only with larger zoom lens.
Canon's AF system will no doubt carry these kit lenses. Sharpness should not be your concern with the RF mount. What matters more is whether the optical formula works for you. If I had to get either this or 18-150, 18-150 for me as I could make use of the telephoto end for some portrait shots if I must, and the size is still reasonable.
@@mountainhobo all RF lenses are at least reasonably sharp when mounted on an R body. Just saying that OP should pick a lens based on his needs rather than worry about sharpness
Just found a Canonwatch article: according to Canon representative their sales are 30% from the M system, but they are focused on the RF system. R1 and some big lenses are around the corner. And that perfectly makes sense.
Canon has always treated APS-C like a second-class citizen and these kit lenses prove they're doing the same with RF-S. This lens manages to be worse than the EF-M equivalent in both zoom range and maximum aperture and is utterly inexcusable. I doubt we'll see RF-S primes now that all lenses will be on RF mount going forward; Canon would rather upsell you on their expensive full frame glass. Switch to Fuji if you want a company that cares about APS-C.
Their tighter crop does not help. Canon needed 15mm in EOS-M to just to make 24mm with their tighter crop. The Fuji is of course 22.5mm and auto deploys. The manual move in this Canon lens to deploy it can miss a shot and I find irritating on my m43 lens when this is present. The Fuji lens has electric zoom so they all manage to miff things in some way but it is the lens I find the most useful and cheap. I even manage to tolerate it on an X-E1 which does not have the micro adjust on the focusing ring. I would think 50% of photographers are not aware anyone but Canon produces cameras so they need not really over worry on what they churn out. I have a handy little Nikon A1000 compact superzoom and its sensor outperforms anything Canon do at 1/2.3" by a significant amount but I doubt if many people are even aware it exists. Canon just put old passed over Sony 20mp sensors in their non 1" compacts and a dusty old JPEG engine and they will always sell whatever I suppose.
@@michaeld5888 If it wasn't for Sony/Fuji that went all in with the mirrorless, Canon wouldn't have transitioned that fast to mirrorless. Canon is a popular brand and it has its brand equity and loyalty. I'm sure the canon r10 will sell well.
These new RF-S lenses win the award for ugliest lenses ever produced. I know they are supposed to be budget lenses but come on Canon put some effort into it. As a Canon shooter i'm embarrassed.
@@1barnet1 given the fact that this is an upgrade path for 850D/90D users they can not really go with 1.5x crop, some EFs lenses will have some dark corners or lens hoods around the frame.
It is so ridiculous. Canon discontinued eos m to focus on rf mount because the size of new mount is bigger than the old one. But what you can see is the smaller aperture and shorter focus range kit lens. 😏🙄
That's not just the cripple hammer, that's an insult. I was about to consider the R7 as an upgrade from Olympus and Lumix, both of which have great IS, but if I can't even use my old EF-S lenses effectively... I am not shelling A$5000 on an R7 and two RF lenses (if that's enough) because we can expect RF-S lenses like this one. Plus the RF weight. Okay, it's a kit lens, but this would have to be the most pointless one of them all. What the heck were your consultants thinking, Canon? I am better off using the old EF-S glass with smart adapter on the old Olympus, at least that's fun. Having said all that, I understand that the world has bigger problems than a crappy kit lens... ☕️
A prime candidate for the most uninspiring impractical kit lens of 2022 straight off the starting block in the new system. The consensus seems to be this is a lens for anyone entirely oblivious to lens capabilities and functionality. Probably it will also need someone who has never used a modern phone. Olympus were stuck with 28mm in their kit lens, with 1.6x crop this lens isn't even that, but bailed out losing shed loads of money, what Canon are doing here I really do not understand. Surely they could have got the thing to auto deploy. The more I think about it this is very much like an old Olympus kit lens in the way it works. New system, old old ideas. Will definitely stick with my Fuji 15-45.
@@cameralabs 6.3 bokeh test was useless... just sayin. nobody cares about 6.3 bokeh. is the image stabilization unswitchable? or is it ON all the time ? for gimbal work it should be turned off...
once again, Canon is not raising the bar for the kit lens... Why would you get a +1k camera with such limiting lens??? Since they ditching the M mount (wtf!), i hope they are going to make proper RF-S lenses otherwise, the RF-S users will be doomed to use adapters... Canon don't do the same mistake you made with EF/EF-S, don't neglect APSC
Wow, just a bunch of snobby people in this comment section. Instead of bitching about everything you should be appreciative of the technology that is now available to you. I began photography in the late 90s. I remember getting a brand new camera and being blown away by 5 mega pixel camera/lens. Now we have 30+ megapixel cameras with amazing autofocus for really affordable pricing. Yet, everybody is negative and just complains about what features and specs werent added to the cameras & lenses instead of simply appreciating all of the positives and what you do get for your $. Entitled, unappreciative people smh 🤦🏻♂️
if no one is bitching about bad products, we would still have 5Mpx... it is called progress. Canon has brand new mount with amazing full frame lenses and make very mediocre APSC kit lens for +1000$ cameras... especially when you are basically cutting off the M mount system, give at least a good reason to give the middle finger to all clients who bought into this dying system... just plain disrespectful.
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00:00 - Introduction and RF-S explained
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What's next? 18-35mm f5.6-8? Looks like they're playing the game of who's offering the narrowest zoom range and aperture.
Yeah right? the arrogance of canon to even make such useless lenses.
The push is to wean you over to full frame I suppose but how many wedding photographers are there actually out there who may actually need lenses for the reincarnation of this old 35mm film frame size in the digital age? Phones are getting good results out of tiny sensors so this belated go big fad seems more of a death rattle from a dying industry. Who really needs eyelash length depth of field? The future to me looks more and more like m43 for the hobbyist and 35mm for the specialist and uber rich. Olympus seems to have been the next company after Samsung to see the light and exit but at least Olympus handed it over to a company geared to keep things going in the new environment. The old guard companies plod on fingers crossed hoping it will all get better one day and everyone can just throw away their old lenses and buy a whole heap of new ones. All change all change, new system yet again.
Seriously
Canon will soon have kit lens' aperture value from F16-22
As a consumer, I find the re-shelling of the old EF-M lenses with RF mount rather disappointing. Not even the 15mm at the wide end...😞
It's not a re-shell - if it was it would be a better lens!
And as an M system user, I am not impressed. Canon is playing this game to give early buyers slow kit lenses and then bring out the great glass later. I am not going to fall for it. I love my M.
@@BrendanMacWade for me it seems that everybody ignored a major difference between RF-S lenses and EF-M lenses. The EF-M lenses feel and look almost premium, these 2 RF-S lenses are ugly.
@@dtibor5903 Exactly. While the EFM lenses look like polished ones these look like free kits lens for a $350 dslr.
Canonwatch article: according to canon representative their sales are 30% from the M system, but they are focused on the RF system. And that perfectly makes sense.
Anxious to see reviews of the bodies!
I've already made preview videos showing you a lot about them!
I never understand why they start crop camera kit lens at 27mm or 28mm equivalent. 24mm is so much more useful and isnt that much harder to design. One recent notable exception is the Nikon 16-50mm on the z50 which is sharp and light which shows it can easily be done.
If you're really wondering, it's likely because this will be the lens that people get when they don't know much and/or don't care much. Canon could absolutely make a 16-50mm kit lens, but it would almost certainly cost more, and very few people will care (they have very likely done extensive market research to quantify this fact). Billion dollar companies don't get to be that size by throwing money away :)
@@hrtlsbstrd I think its because they want to sell more 16mm 2.8 lenses to people who want a wider angle than the kit lens provides, ie vloggers. I don't think its a coincidence Canon introduces a cheap wide angle prime lens and then conveniently leaves off the wide angle option from the kit lens.
@@Calibr21 vloggers are best to stick with EF-M 11-22
@@smithydll Ef-M can’t do good 4K.
Also they want to sell rf-s 10-18 worthless lens
Wow Gordon that was fast (unlike the lens) - good to see you have something new to view, review.
Four new videos from Canon to watch!
Is there an inverter ring for this lens, to get closer to the subject?
I don't see this RF-S System as a replacement for the EOS M System as long as the R10 is the samllest option. It is simply not small enough as a complete system for travelling light. I will happily keep my EOS M5 with M lenses even if I will keep my already preordered R10. As landscape photographer I don't need "better" apertures. I prefer the lightweight philosophy. I'm curios how the R10 will pair with my RF 800mm f/11 lens. Hopefully I get the camera before my Nothwest Passage trip begins in August/September. The R10/18-45 kit will serve as lightweight option during the flight when I don't want to grab th bigger anf heavier EOS R equipment.
I agree. Maybe there will be a small rangefinder version, and that would spell the death of M. For the moment, M has it's value and its advantages. I'm sticking with M. I'm never going full frame. So that makes my decision to stick with an old crop system rather easy. I'm a crop sensor guy.
@@BrendanMacWade the main advantage of the M system is that it looks more premium then these 2 new ugly ducklings
@@BrendanMacWade Canon has to be really stupid to shoot themselves in the foot, the still sell M50s extremely well
Then wait for the R100 or R1000. I don't know about it, but I think they will follow this scheme. And maybe there is a smaller version without grip as the old EOS M(1) in the future...
But for me the R5+RF35 (1.8) is a fine light way.
It is essentially a new camera system with only two lenses at the moment - both kit zooms. What else is there to say?
It's natively compatible with RF
Hi Gordon, I love your channel by the way. Thanks for your videos.
Yes, compatible, but there is little point to buy an aps-c body to use with full-frame lenses (beyond maybe a bump in resolution compared to crop mode). I would just go with Fuji or Sony.
But I hope that with time Canon will introduce a full lineup of high grade aps-c RF lenses. Then I am sure it will be an interesting option. Time will tell :)
@@artemholstov9207 Wildlife and sports photographers specifically buy Crop cameras to use with full frame glass to get tighter images
@@cameralabs true but that system doesn’t have many good options for the R10 in terms of useful focal range, aperture and weight.
Now if Canon would have respelled the most popular Eos M lenses it would have been different. The UW zoom 22mm pancake and that recent fast prime I forgot about.
Those 3 lenses would have made a much better case here with minimal resources.
This release is just too lazy and not competitive compared to what’s out there.
Wow this is disappointing. Completely unacceptable even. Even the 18-55 lenses were at least f5.6 at 55mm and 3.5 or 4 at the wide end.
I see more and more of camera manufacturers doing this to make cameras lighter and more portable. This is stupid because phones are ultimately amazing to shoot with and the ultimate in portability.
I say make cheap fast primes for newbies on crop, and small fast zooms like the efs 17-55 2.8
Make the point of difference in excellent images and the real deal in shooting on nice glass.
Doesn't have to be L standard, but make the experience accessible and they'll upgrade from there.
Canon can do better than this for newbies for sure.
The EF-M 18-55 even had a metal mount. Between the EF-M 15-45, EF-M 18-55, the RF-S 18-45 is the most disappointing crop kit lens of the bunch. I see no reason to upgrade from EF-M, but plenty of reasons to start looking at Sony.
@@smithydll The three first EF-M lenses 18-55 mm, 22 mm and 11-22 mm are metal construction. The rest are plastic even though the 32 mm does have a metal mount. But the 15-45 even though plastic is superior to the 18-55 mm.
Genuine question: the EOS M5 came out a few years ago - is there any significant difference in image quality between that and the R10? With lenses as unappealing as this I doubt they can get superior performance from the newer sensor even if it is better. Would love to see an M v R blind test with kit lenses / adapted 50mm 1.8 STM
I'm guessing almost identical quality to M50.
Canon complains about chip and raw material shortages then has the audacity to release lenses like these.
Ironically, this one translates to almost 28-70 of FF equivalent...the same focal range as that of their possibly proudest achievement.
I’m looking to buy a camera to use it on product photography for my business, will this be a good lens?
Nice honest review
Thanks!
The Fuji 15-45mm is (22.5mm to 67.5mm FF) vs RF 18-45mm (28.8mm to 72mm FF) or Even the Z 16-50mm, Do you want 22.5mm or 28.8mm ?
Would I be correct to assume that this lens is sharper than 18-150mm as needs less optical compromise? Which kit lens seems sharper? R7 is sold in UK only with larger zoom lens.
Canon's AF system will no doubt carry these kit lenses. Sharpness should not be your concern with the RF mount. What matters more is whether the optical formula works for you.
If I had to get either this or 18-150, 18-150 for me as I could make use of the telephoto end for some portrait shots if I must, and the size is still reasonable.
@@LinhNguyen-im4uu "Sharpness should not be your concern with the RF mount. What matters more is whether the optical formula works for you. " -- What?
@@mountainhobo all RF lenses are at least reasonably sharp when mounted on an R body. Just saying that OP should pick a lens based on his needs rather than worry about sharpness
@@mountainhobo kkk
is it possible to turn off the in-the-lens image stabilization ?
Probably only from a menu in the camera, but again I will confirm on my final review.
@@cameralabs only in canon menu? what if used on komodo red camera?
@@MrBazsi888 I have no idea, sorry, but I also probably wouldn't put a cheap kit lens onto a super-high end pro camera.
Canon should have stuck with the 18-55 or the
16-85 lens they make for there DSLR.
It’s a big disappointment in terms of range (no 15 mm) and aperture :(
and plastic mount… shame canon :(
As many have pointed out, this is a downgrade from the EF-M 15-45, not as wide, and the aperture is also a downgrade.
The design is downgrade too
Just found a Canonwatch article: according to Canon representative their sales are 30% from the M system, but they are focused on the RF system. R1 and some big lenses are around the corner. And that perfectly makes sense.
can you please show how to retract the lens please????
Did you watch the video? I show it expanding and retracting in it! You just twist it.
Is it good on canon dsrl eso 2000D ??
It doesn't work on dslrs
Canon has always treated APS-C like a second-class citizen and these kit lenses prove they're doing the same with RF-S. This lens manages to be worse than the EF-M equivalent in both zoom range and maximum aperture and is utterly inexcusable. I doubt we'll see RF-S primes now that all lenses will be on RF mount going forward; Canon would rather upsell you on their expensive full frame glass.
Switch to Fuji if you want a company that cares about APS-C.
It’s not for R6 / R5 ?
Correct. It's for EOS R bodies with smaller APSC sensors like R7, R10, R50, R100. As I said in the video.
Fuji has the 15-45 kit. Not sure y canon cant make it 15 at the wide end. Oh well, its gonna sell like hot cake because its canon
Their tighter crop does not help. Canon needed 15mm in EOS-M to just to make 24mm with their tighter crop. The Fuji is of course 22.5mm and auto deploys. The manual move in this Canon lens to deploy it can miss a shot and I find irritating on my m43 lens when this is present. The Fuji lens has electric zoom so they all manage to miff things in some way but it is the lens I find the most useful and cheap. I even manage to tolerate it on an X-E1 which does not have the micro adjust on the focusing ring. I would think 50% of photographers are not aware anyone but Canon produces cameras so they need not really over worry on what they churn out. I have a handy little Nikon A1000 compact superzoom and its sensor outperforms anything Canon do at 1/2.3" by a significant amount but I doubt if many people are even aware it exists. Canon just put old passed over Sony 20mp sensors in their non 1" compacts and a dusty old JPEG engine and they will always sell whatever I suppose.
@@michaeld5888 If it wasn't for Sony/Fuji that went all in with the mirrorless, Canon wouldn't have transitioned that fast to mirrorless. Canon is a popular brand and it has its brand equity and loyalty. I'm sure the canon r10 will sell well.
These new RF-S lenses win the award for ugliest lenses ever produced. I know they are supposed to be budget lenses but come on Canon put some effort into it. As a Canon shooter i'm embarrassed.
Can I use on a c70?
I would think so, yes, but it is a very basic lens.
good stabilization?
I'm going to do a full review in a few weeks
@@cameralabs cool, i'm waiting
This is unaccaptable for an M user. Not including 15mm is a mistake.
I have M50 with 15-45mm and I will loose 2mm if I swap
@@workingwiththelight3119 3... but yeah, every mm counts on the wide end :))
Canon’s 1.6x crop makes it even worse
@@1barnet1 given the fact that this is an upgrade path for 850D/90D users they can not really go with 1.5x crop, some EFs lenses will have some dark corners or lens hoods around the frame.
It is so ridiculous. Canon discontinued eos m to focus on rf mount because the size of new mount is bigger than the old one. But what you can see is the smaller aperture and shorter focus range kit lens. 😏🙄
That's not just the cripple hammer, that's an insult. I was about to consider the R7 as an upgrade from Olympus and Lumix, both of which have great IS, but if I can't even use my old EF-S lenses effectively... I am not shelling A$5000 on an R7 and two RF lenses (if that's enough) because we can expect RF-S lenses like this one. Plus the RF weight.
Okay, it's a kit lens, but this would have to be the most pointless one of them all. What the heck were your consultants thinking, Canon? I am better off using the old EF-S glass with smart adapter on the old Olympus, at least that's fun.
Having said all that, I understand that the world has bigger problems than a crappy kit lens... ☕️
You can use your EF-S lenses on it, you just need the EF-EOS R adapter, and in some regions, they'll give it away in the R7 and R10 boxes.
@@cameralabs Cheers, that's cool. I read somewhere that's not possible due to another technical restriction (different crop). Thanks, Gordon!
@@rodmehta5356 nope, all EF and EF-S lenses will work just fine using the standard canon adapter.
29mm on the wide end, f/6.3 on the long end AND an annoying retractable design?
A prime candidate for the most uninspiring impractical kit lens of 2022 straight off the starting block in the new system. The consensus seems to be this is a lens for anyone entirely oblivious to lens capabilities and functionality. Probably it will also need someone who has never used a modern phone. Olympus were stuck with 28mm in their kit lens, with 1.6x crop this lens isn't even that, but bailed out losing shed loads of money, what Canon are doing here I really do not understand. Surely they could have got the thing to auto deploy. The more I think about it this is very much like an old Olympus kit lens in the way it works. New system, old old ideas. Will definitely stick with my Fuji 15-45.
why didnt you show bokeh quality at 4.5 f-stop ??
I will do when i test a final model. this was just a quick first look
@@cameralabs 6.3 bokeh test was useless... just sayin. nobody cares about 6.3 bokeh. is the image stabilization unswitchable? or is it ON all the time ? for gimbal work it should be turned off...
yes, but why not just use the smartphone instead of the RF-S 18-45. I dont see a difference.
You mean instead of any larger camera? If you can't see the difference, then there is no point.
once again, Canon is not raising the bar for the kit lens... Why would you get a +1k camera with such limiting lens???
Since they ditching the M mount (wtf!), i hope they are going to make proper RF-S lenses otherwise, the RF-S users will be doomed to use adapters...
Canon don't do the same mistake you made with EF/EF-S, don't neglect APSC
Wow, just a bunch of snobby people in this comment section. Instead of bitching about everything you should be appreciative of the technology that is now available to you. I began photography in the late 90s. I remember getting a brand new camera and being blown away by 5 mega pixel camera/lens. Now we have 30+ megapixel cameras with amazing autofocus for really affordable pricing. Yet, everybody is negative and just complains about what features and specs werent added to the cameras & lenses instead of simply appreciating all of the positives and what you do get for your $.
Entitled, unappreciative people smh 🤦🏻♂️
if no one is bitching about bad products, we would still have 5Mpx... it is called progress.
Canon has brand new mount with amazing full frame lenses and make very mediocre APSC kit lens for +1000$ cameras... especially when you are basically cutting off the M mount system, give at least a good reason to give the middle finger to all clients who bought into this dying system... just plain disrespectful.
bruh look how tiny the front element is 😭
Dropping 3mm from the wide compared to the EF-M lens is a really odd choice by Canon, though visually it looks nice.
It's way more ugly compared to the EF-M lenses, that small lens on that large mount just makes it awkward
Canon has just made the world’s first ever, the ugliest looking lens that has smaller barrel than the mount ring. What a disappointment!
All RF-S lens are going to look like that - fat bottomed ugly. The RF mount is way to big for the apsc lenses.
Wish they would invest more on the M system. This just looks like Frankenstein-ish.
what the twisting knob for at the very front of the lens @gordonlaing
Manual focus / control ring. Didn't I mention in the video?
Worse focal length and worse aperture than the ef-m kit lens. Do better canon....
Just show picures an repeat marketing stuff! That doesn't meet my expectation!
It's a first looks
DId I see a plastic aperture?!? OMG!!!
URGENT _ GORDON _ YOU HAVE someone impersonating you on here - check the replies !!!
I got one.
this lens is canon's idea of the new vlogger crowd with no brains what so ever!!!! back in the day Canon made real lenses!
too narrow for vlog things I think
Dammit, why this needs to be RF-S ?
Exprensive garbage.
they want to think like that, to sell you pricier glasses