Great video, honest review. My Trailshot failed miserably when wildcamping up a mountain for 2 nights/3 days. I experienced EXACTLY the same issues as you just did and ended up having to boil all my water. The Sawyer is much MUCH simpler in its operation. The Trailshot, although well built, has 13 parts that MSR invite you to pull apart and maintain, but there is much more to go wrong than on the Sawyer. Try separating these tight fitting parts when your hands are freezing, the wind is blowing, and temps are plummeting. Mine is now in the trash!
David Barclay yea I checked that. Pretty sure the problem was that I didn't immediately backwash after filtering dirty water. The mud that got in there dried and won't dislodge. The lesson is to back wash every use. (Luckily it's the easiest filter on market to backwash.)
David Barclay it's been a while since I played with it. If I recall, removing the prefilter (and the attached valve) reverses the flow. Havnt tried it with a syringe but that might help!
May be, i'an not sure of that but, you can use some Javel with water ( like 5% javel for 1 of Liter) with hot or cold water. Shake the trailshoot, seens working, but can't get the really fine mud. I guess next time pick a plastic bottle, collect the bad water in it, wait for the mud to be on the bottom on the bottle and them use the msr on the top (1/3) of the bottle. it's take more time, but a least you can use the filter for more time :) hope it's works !
maybe in extreme conditions you should use a cloth in front of the prefilter? just to prefilter the prefilter? just an idea.. i my self am watching this for doomsday prepping scenarios not for hiking.. and i would think this to be great in the end of days..
I bought an MSR Trailshot. Just back from a 4 day hike. Verdict: it's a piece of junk! It stopped working after 2 days. I've tried cleaning it (at home in the sink), did the integrity test (fine) - it's a gimmick. Don't buy it. The bulb only fills to a quarter, so you just get a trickle. I have subsequently found a lot of critical reviews that describe the same problem. I'm going back to my trusty Sawyer that I've used for years and hundreds of litres.
I found mine,to all intents and purposes unused except just after I bought it,around 2 years back,at home,just to be sure it worked.I put it in a cupboard,and forgot about it till now(july2022).On checking to see if it still worked,the water pressure forced the filter out of its housing,with no water coming out of the outlet,even before the filter was ejected.Its never been used,exceot for that initial test at home,Numerous reports of them having issues like this after they have been is storage.So I thought i would check out sawyer mini reveiws,only to find they also have a common failing of the o ring seal coming out of the housing,and frequently going un noticed,until on operating it,the filter doesnt work becase of the missing o ring seal.This also is a common ocurrence.What is wrong with these manufacturers,wher the market such badly designed products?Seems like the seals are difficult to obtain in the uk,so I will not be buying a sawyer filter either,so have now decided to go for a Katadyne filter instead,as it doesnt seem to have any of the above faults,at least as far as I have been able to check
@@philpridding1154 I think you might like the Grayl UltraPress. I think it's the best product on the market at present. Just bought one and seems pretty good.
@@tomlives Thanks,but have just ordered a katadyne be free,as unlike a lot of the others,there doesny seem to be so much faffing about when it come to cleaning it.I will however take a look at the Gray Ultra press.There does seem to be plenty of either unbranded or unknown brands on e bay,but Im a bit wary of them,especially when it comes to water filters,as its not really something you can take a chance on.Will still check it out though.Thanks.
@@tomlives I have now bought a Grayle ultrapress,and am very pleased with it,not only because it filters some (if not all commonly found chemicals,and most water bourne virus s out), but after filtering,can also store the water until needed,and everything is self contained).It is more expensive,but to me,it is by far the best option when compared to the other popular filters.Thanks for putting me onto it.
@@philpridding1154 Good to hear! My pleasure, Phil. I do think it's an outstanding device. It isn't cheap (especially in Japan where I live) but it's a game changer. I just wonder what they'll come up with next!
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Great video, honest review. My Trailshot failed miserably when wildcamping up a mountain for 2 nights/3 days. I experienced EXACTLY the same issues as you just did and ended up having to boil all my water. The Sawyer is much MUCH simpler in its operation. The Trailshot, although well built, has 13 parts that MSR invite you to pull apart and maintain, but there is much more to go wrong than on the Sawyer. Try separating these tight fitting parts when your hands are freezing, the wind is blowing, and temps are plummeting. Mine is now in the trash!
Good video, thanks. I am sure this filters as indicated, but I will stick with my Sawyer based on your information. 👍
Did you check the pre-filter at the end of the tube?
David Barclay yea I checked that. Pretty sure the problem was that I didn't immediately backwash after filtering dirty water. The mud that got in there dried and won't dislodge. The lesson is to back wash every use. (Luckily it's the easiest filter on market to backwash.)
Wild Scouts You can completely remove the pre filter to check its flow
I just got one and have used it only a few times. I was wondering if you can use a syringe to flush it, like the Sawyer?
David Barclay it's been a while since I played with it. If I recall, removing the prefilter (and the attached valve) reverses the flow. Havnt tried it with a syringe but that might help!
May be, i'an not sure of that but, you can use some Javel with water ( like 5% javel for 1 of Liter) with hot or cold water.
Shake the trailshoot, seens working, but can't get the really fine mud.
I guess next time pick a plastic bottle, collect the bad water in it, wait for the mud to be on the bottom on the bottle and them use the msr on the top (1/3) of the bottle.
it's take more time, but a least you can use the filter for more time :)
hope it's works !
maybe in extreme conditions you should use a cloth in front of the prefilter? just to prefilter the prefilter? just an idea.. i my self am watching this for doomsday prepping scenarios not for hiking.. and i would think this to be great in the end of days..
Doomsdayprepping :-) Well it seems like we are pretty close now. Maybe within 6 months or so?
how you doing to return these to the store if they fail during your doomsday?
@@Francois_Dupont Guess you can´t return them then, but at least you might have drinkable water for a while :D
I bought an MSR Trailshot. Just back from a 4 day hike. Verdict: it's a piece of junk!
It stopped working after 2 days. I've tried cleaning it (at home in the sink), did the integrity test (fine) - it's a gimmick. Don't buy it. The bulb only fills to a quarter, so you just get a trickle. I have subsequently found a lot of critical reviews that describe the same problem. I'm going back to my trusty Sawyer that I've used for years and hundreds of litres.
I found mine,to all intents and purposes unused except just after I bought it,around 2 years back,at home,just to be sure it worked.I put it in a cupboard,and forgot about it till now(july2022).On checking to see if it still worked,the water pressure forced the filter out of its housing,with no water coming out of the outlet,even before the filter was ejected.Its never been used,exceot for that initial test at home,Numerous reports of them having issues like this after they have been is storage.So I thought i would check out sawyer mini reveiws,only to find they also have a common failing of the o ring seal coming out of the housing,and frequently going un noticed,until on operating it,the filter doesnt work becase of the missing o ring seal.This also is a common ocurrence.What is wrong with these manufacturers,wher the market such badly designed products?Seems like the seals are difficult to obtain in the uk,so I will not be buying a sawyer filter either,so have now decided to go for a Katadyne filter instead,as it doesnt seem to have any of the above faults,at least as far as I have been able to check
@@philpridding1154 I think you might like the Grayl UltraPress. I think it's the best product on the market at present. Just bought one and seems pretty good.
@@tomlives Thanks,but have just ordered a katadyne be free,as unlike a lot of the others,there doesny seem to be so much faffing about when it come to cleaning it.I will however take a look at the Gray Ultra press.There does seem to be plenty of either unbranded or unknown brands on e bay,but Im a bit wary of them,especially when it comes to water filters,as its not really something you can take a chance on.Will still check it out though.Thanks.
@@tomlives I have now bought a Grayle ultrapress,and am very pleased with it,not only because it filters some (if not all commonly found chemicals,and most water bourne virus s out), but after filtering,can also store the water until needed,and everything is self contained).It is more expensive,but to me,it is by far the best option when compared to the other popular filters.Thanks for putting me onto it.
@@philpridding1154 Good to hear! My pleasure, Phil. I do think it's an outstanding device. It isn't cheap (especially in Japan where I live) but it's a game changer. I just wonder what they'll come up with next!
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Nope
My experience using this filter you really need to shake it hard to clean it out. Shake that thing like a cheating girlfriend.