Thank you very kindly. Maybe you will enjoy this recent video in which I do my best to show lock stitch formation. ruclips.net/video/Og1hM8iS22Q/видео.html
fantastic vid. My machine repair man is nothing compared to MrD. Even I was able to put my knowledge across after studying up on MrD. Mr repairman sat back in surprise after I spouted some of Mr.D's knowledge. Respect!
Proper hook timing is performed by sliding the large gear to the left or right, not by rotating it. The gear has two screws, one of which tightens into a flat spot on the shaft. You never want to rotate the gear so the screw comes out of the flat spot, otherwise it may slip if the machine ever has a thread jam
I concur. I went back and looked at my video and I think that my mistake was in editing because sliding that gear is definitely the way to get it done. Over the course of my several videos I have found that when I make a mistake, and I do make mistakes, the good community of RUclips will find it and correct it for me. Thank you for your good work.
I've had a 1510-7 now for 13 yrs. Use it in reupholstery and canvas. Won't sew v92 Dabond now without fraying and breaking. Sew's 24/3 cotton glace fine. #52 mono fine. So I figure the timing must be out of wack a bit. My service/sellar guy just hasn't come. I'll try this myself. thanks. Oh I love the 1510-7. Will never go back to one without automated trim etc.
I love everything you have show on this video I am learning so much I didn't know how to do thank you keep doing what you are doing please don't stop I need this
Alex, my new 1508NH just got delivered today, at the dealer's store it worked fine but now I can't get the bobbin housing to spin. I loaded the fully loaded bobbin into the case, pulled the thread around that slot at the front, but as I crank the wheel, the housing/bobbin case, any part of it, does not spin to allow me to further pull the thread through and to enable the needle to pick up the bobbin thread. Basically the bobbin area is complete non-mobile.
These videos are great, I have a Juki LU 1508 that recently started skipping stitches and occasionally shredding thread. I noticed the hook had some burrs so I sanded them off, it was ok for a bit but is doing it again, thoughts?
Great video! I'm going to try and time my 1508NH. I'm new to sewing and when I sew the top thread is being tangled up around the bobbin hook assembly. Seems like timing can be the cause. Thanks for posting
Loved the video! Could you do a real world needle -hook timing by threading the machine turning the hand wheel until the thread loop forms and the hook is adjusted to be right in the middle of the thread hook? Which would be more precise on a used machine?
I am reviewing the timing video on the Juki LU 1508n. When you discuss the needle bar height you point to the number 52.3 for the 1508H, yet the 1508 has a height of 56.8. I am confused. Please could you clarify?
It really depends upon the needle system used. Mine is Altered and that accounts for the difference. If you follow the manual for both needle and needle bar height you will be gold.
Great video, awesome quality and clearly explained! Nice to see something on the 1508. What was your method for setting stitch / feed length 0? It seems theres no hard stop for that and 0 is never quite reached. If I work the handle up and down I can get closer to 0 but not sure if that is what the factory settings intended for. May not be as critical with timing but for something like the needle entry position adjustment it seems to make a big difference in the measurement / result.
Mine works very similar to what you describe. I just get as close as I can, I don't think it is super critical but; You can test by sewing a piece of card stock, if several strokes make a single hole then you have attained a 0 setting. The dial doesn't seem to be all that accurate.
Thanks. My 1541 then is likely in time. It does not miss stitches. I just have to figure out why there is some sort of a catch when turning by hand. It's like a bur on a needle catching the fabric sound, but it's not a bur on the needle. Always fun to learn new tings about these machines.
Maybe pull the door over the bobbin case and see if the thread is passing around smoothly. Advance by hand to find the exact place you hear the sound. Happy hunting.
Thanks for the video, I have the 1508 and got thread jammed into the hook assembly and can't get it out, how do you take the hook assembly out of this machine so I can try and remove the thread it is really jammed in there? The owners manual I have doesn't show which screws to loosen to remove it? I wasn't able to move the hand wheel at all but now I think I have enough of the thread out so I can turn it a little bit but the way the hook is turning it looks like the hook assembly is not lining up right anymore hopefully wgen I get the thread out it will line back up, any suggestions on what I need to do would be very helpful? Tomorrow I'm going to tilt the machine back and see if I can't get the thread out from underneath that the machine but it's wrapped around the hook assembly pretty good. I have to remove the knee lift first before I can tilt the machine back. Thanks for your help, I sure hope I haven't hurt anything on this machine this is the best machine I have and love it I'm just hoping I don't have to adjust anything to get it going again, I'm worried. Need to buy a manual for sure. Thanks again. Tammy
There is a link to the manual in the description that you can download for free. It is not too tough to remove the bobbin case. The manual should help.
@@AlexanderDyer Alexander - I have a stuck hook assembly on the bobbin case on my Juki LU-1508NH. can you point me to the page on the manual that would talk about removing the case?
Hi Alex, good 2022 year. Thank you for your kind videos. I'm writing from Mexico and I have a Juki 1510N, very similar to the one exposed on this video. The problem is that the hook y touching slightly to the needle. Is there an adjustmen to move apart the hook from the needle? Very appreciated your help, Sergio.
Great suggestion but I don't have one right now. Try this query and you may be able to infer what to do for yours. ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=industrial+sewing+machine+timing Also Consew has a manual available to the 206RB 5 and that may have some info that could still apply to your machine.
I recently picked-up a 1508nh and tried to set the needle bar height. I set it to 52.3mm as you did in the video and the top of the needle bar hits the top of the machine. What should be the needle bar length? I works with a shorter needle, but wanted to use a 190r needle. Perhaps, someone changed it out and put a different length in place....I have searched the web to no avail. Thanks, Cheers.
@@AlexanderDyer Thanks for the link. As suspected, the needle bar that was in my machine was the wrong length and little bent/warped 🤔. I replaced with the correct bar and voila!
I have the NH version of this. When I use reverse, it throws this timing out of wack. Is something elsewhere slipping or moving? I tried this a few times.
I recommend looking at the hook while operating the machine slowly by hand to watch the sewing motion to see where the error lies. Then you will know what to do.
@AlexanderDyer Eventually.... turned out the drive gear was not in the right location, the hook gear was then not in the right place to compensate. Turns out someone dropped the hook gear out of the machine, maybe when changing the hook. I think we moved the gear 3 or 4 teeth to get all the spot screws back into the correct places. Hint: 1st screw in rotation is the spot screw.
According to my manual, some take the 135 X 17 and some take the 190 . Some people will switch needle systems between these two but that does require that the machine be re-timed. If you have a new machine and one needle system doesn't work, you could try the other to see if that solves an issue.
@@AlexanderDyer Thanks man! U never fail to reply. I will test both needles out. Retiming seems to be complex, not sure if I can do that on my own though. :)
Trying to do timing on my Singer 20u but one of the two screws on the gear won't budge. It's slightly stripped on one side plus it feels really stuck in there. Any tips on getting it out?
It will probably need to be drilled out. A dicey prospect that can damage the threads if not careful but that can be replaced too. Get a left handed drill and an easy out.
Nothing wrong with an 8700 it is just made for different sewing projects than a walking foot. I have a dozen machines so 2 is a completely reasonable arrangement.
Hey Alexander, So you know industrial sewing machines probably better than anyone on the youtube world along with some of the leatherworker guys as well. But what would be the top 5 sewing machines old or new i should look out for to buy and keep as investments. For example would be certain machines that are known to hold there value and outstanding to sew with? I know some designs are better than others no matter the age. I'm referring to flatbed and cylinder. Thanks in advance.
I made this linked video since I have received a version of your question a hundred times. 🙂 Thank you for your comment, keep them coming and enjoy the video. ruclips.net/video/lbhWnIwu8rk/видео.html
Is your 1508 an N or NH? The name plate says N but you used the NH needle bar height, 52.3 mm. Other pictures I've seen of NH machines say that on the name plate.
Well, you caught me. I have gone a bit off path with that. There are two different needle systems that can be used on this series of machine, one being longer than the other. By using the needle system and bar height of the NH I have in effect converted the N into an NH.
It's good know that option is there. I recently ordered a 1508N and studied for a while the differences in the N and NH before deciding the NH was not worth, to me, the almost 30% higher cost. The primary upgrades on the NH were the much heavier hand wheel, 190R needle system, and slightly different feed motion.
Alexander Dyer i need help with a machine. kingmax gc1510l-25 it appears to be sewing in reverse. has a wheel on top thats spring loaded i took it off. i also cant find info on it. bought 2nd hand
I bought this machine from nickosew.com which is local to me here in Missouri. I have seen some pretty good online stores in the UK but I have never bought more that a few hard to find parts. If you can buy locally shipping would be more affordable.
I think they are both good. Specs are on Juki's site so you can compare. The 1541 tends to be more affordable so if it will do what you need but the 1508 has some slight advantages in capability if needed. I use them both and like them both.
Similar to other walking foot machines like the 563 and the Singer 211 the alternating vertical movement can be adjusted to increase or decrease the height of alternating movement.
need help with a machine if you have time. king max gc1510l-25 i could txt u some videos and maby you can help. i could pay someone or i could learn and the art wont die with the old dogs
The best video I have found so far of a hook catching thread behind a needle. For any machine!
Thank you very kindly. Maybe you will enjoy this recent video in which I do my best to show lock stitch formation. ruclips.net/video/Og1hM8iS22Q/видео.html
fantastic vid. My machine repair man is nothing compared to MrD. Even I was able to put my knowledge across after studying up on MrD. Mr repairman sat back in surprise after I spouted some of Mr.D's knowledge. Respect!
True..this video is a godsend! The technician who I called to sort of service my machine didnt even get this right. Thanks once again!
Proper hook timing is performed by sliding the large gear to the left or right, not by rotating it. The gear has two screws, one of which tightens into a flat spot on the shaft. You never want to rotate the gear so the screw comes out of the flat spot, otherwise it may slip if the machine ever has a thread jam
I concur. I went back and looked at my video and I think that my mistake was in editing because sliding that gear is definitely the way to get it done. Over the course of my several videos I have found that when I make a mistake, and I do make mistakes, the good community of RUclips will find it and correct it for me.
Thank you for your good work.
Will you guide for LU1560 N-7 thread cut issue how to solve...pls..
I've had a 1510-7 now for 13 yrs. Use it in reupholstery and canvas. Won't sew v92 Dabond now without fraying and breaking. Sew's 24/3 cotton glace fine. #52 mono fine. So I figure the timing must be out of wack a bit. My service/sellar guy just hasn't come. I'll try this myself. thanks. Oh I love the 1510-7. Will never go back to one without automated trim etc.
Good luck with that. If you love automatic then you might like seeing this if you haven't already. ruclips.net/video/P3Rv0LZb0dI/видео.html
Well explained, a (moving) picture is worth a thousand words. I'd never get that procedure from a tech manual
Thanks and yes a picture IS worth a thousand words and a video is literally thousands of pictures ..... and sound!😀
I love everything you have show on this video I am learning so much I didn't know how to do thank you keep doing what you are doing please don't stop I need this
Good job
Outstanding video! Helped me understand how my machine works, though not a Juki. Thank you.
Alex, my new 1508NH just got delivered today, at the dealer's store it worked fine but now I can't get the bobbin housing to spin. I loaded the fully loaded bobbin into the case, pulled the thread around that slot at the front, but as I crank the wheel, the housing/bobbin case, any part of it, does not spin to allow me to further pull the thread through and to enable the needle to pick up the bobbin thread. Basically the bobbin area is complete non-mobile.
Thanks Mr. Dyer for another one of the super interesting videos by a Master on the subject.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the machine you show yourself working on is a LU 1508 N and the number you used was for the 1508H according to your manual
You are not wrong. My machine is set up for the larger needle that the H uses so that is why I used that figure.
These videos are great, I have a Juki LU 1508 that recently started skipping stitches and occasionally shredding thread. I noticed the hook had some burrs so I sanded them off, it was ok for a bit but is doing it again, thoughts?
Thanks for the video! this one of the best explanation of the hook - needle timing
Very useful video, Alexander. You taught me something new, again. Thanks, Michael
Great video! I'm going to try and time my 1508NH. I'm new to sewing and when I sew the top thread is being tangled up around the bobbin hook assembly. Seems like timing can be the cause. Thanks for posting
Sounds like your top tension is too light. Try tightening it up a bit before you go to all the trouble of timing.
Alexander Dyer ok. Will do. Thank you!
Loved the video! Could you do a real world needle -hook timing by threading the machine turning the hand wheel until the thread loop forms and the hook is adjusted to be right in the middle of the thread hook? Which would be more precise on a used machine?
Is this what you mean? ruclips.net/video/Og1hM8iS22Q/видео.html
hey mr d. another fun video. Very clear video. This is very similar in operation to the many 111w155 derivatives.
Yes sir. The basic principles can be applied to most machines. I think the industry is built on the shoulders of Singer and Simanco.
I am reviewing the timing video on the Juki LU 1508n. When you discuss the needle bar height you point to the number 52.3 for the 1508H, yet the 1508 has a height of 56.8. I am confused. Please could you clarify?
It really depends upon the needle system used. Mine is Altered and that accounts for the difference. If you follow the manual for both needle and needle bar height you will be gold.
on the same machine can you show how to remove and replace the needle bar please .
Can you do a timing video for a juki lg 158?
Hey Jason,
Excellent video!!! Thank you.... And thanks for the link to the engineer manual :-)
Peace
Thanks Rick, good to hear from you.
How do you adjust the walking foot
Can you do a video of this for a 1541 ?
Please timing the juki lg 158_1needle to hook
Super helpful. Thank you. Do you know if this procedure would be the same for the Juki 1541S?
In principle yes however the orientation of the hook is different and you should consult the engineer's manual for specifics.
awesome video! very well explained and thank you! please post more on the juki lu15XX model
Thank you, I will!
Thanks for such a thorough walk through! I’m wondering what the item to the right of the needle mounted to the frame is?
Flip down edge guide. Pretty handy in the right circumstance. It is adjustable. amzn.to/2kSAOMT
the 1508 series uses 190 needles, but can be adjusted to use 135 length needles, i suppose this series of adjustment is for that purpose?
Great video, awesome quality and clearly explained! Nice to see something on the 1508. What was your method for setting stitch / feed length 0? It seems theres no hard stop for that and 0 is never quite reached. If I work the handle up and down I can get closer to 0 but not sure if that is what the factory settings intended for. May not be as critical with timing but for something like the needle entry position adjustment it seems to make a big difference in the measurement / result.
Mine works very similar to what you describe. I just get as close as I can, I don't think it is super critical but; You can test by sewing a piece of card stock, if several strokes make a single hole then you have attained a 0 setting. The dial doesn't seem to be all that accurate.
Love the videos, especially the ones where you make a bag. Do you sell machines? And what is the major difference between the 1508 and the 1541.
Thanks. The differences are fairly subtle and mostly unseen but the 1508 is slightly more capable and has drop in bobbins.
Cam settings and stitching length settings video pls
Excellent video. Thank you!!!!!’
Glad you liked it!
Awesome, as always. So what might a symptom of an out of time hook be?
Skipped stitches or no stitches, Ha Ha. This is kind of where the rubber meets the road so to speak.
Thanks. My 1541 then is likely in time. It does not miss stitches. I just have to figure out why there is some sort of a catch when turning by hand. It's like a bur on a needle catching the fabric sound, but it's not a bur on the needle. Always fun to learn new tings about these machines.
Maybe pull the door over the bobbin case and see if the thread is passing around smoothly. Advance by hand to find the exact place you hear the sound. Happy hunting.
Thanks for the video, I have the 1508 and got thread jammed into the hook assembly and can't get it out, how do you take the hook assembly out of this machine so I can try and remove the thread it is really jammed in there? The owners manual I have doesn't show which screws to loosen to remove it? I wasn't able to move the hand wheel at all but now I think I have enough of the thread out so I can turn it a little bit but the way the hook is turning it looks like the hook assembly is not lining up right anymore hopefully wgen I get the thread out it will line back up, any suggestions on what I need to do would be very helpful? Tomorrow I'm going to tilt the machine back and see if I can't get the thread out from underneath that the machine but it's wrapped around the hook assembly pretty good. I have to remove the knee lift first before I can tilt the machine back. Thanks for your help, I sure hope I haven't hurt anything on this machine this is the best machine I have and love it I'm just hoping I don't have to adjust anything to get it going again, I'm worried. Need to buy a manual for sure. Thanks again. Tammy
There is a link to the manual in the description that you can download for free. It is not too tough to remove the bobbin case. The manual should help.
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
@@AlexanderDyer Alexander - I have a stuck hook assembly on the bobbin case on my Juki LU-1508NH. can you point me to the page on the manual that would talk about removing the case?
Alexander I am in jam with my Juki 1541, it came off timing and no one around me repairs them. Would be able to help me ??
Reverse feed control lever setting & timing belt
PLEASE help, i have a question about the tension assembly . when you lift the foot is it supposed to release the tension discs?
Yes, it should.
Hi Alex, good 2022 year. Thank you for your kind videos.
I'm writing from Mexico and I have a Juki 1510N, very similar to the one exposed on this video. The problem is that the hook y touching slightly to the needle. Is there an adjustmen to move apart the hook from the needle?
Very appreciated your help, Sergio.
Although it's not for your machine, I think you might find this video useful - ruclips.net/video/1wNBPX8i524/видео.html
Hey I have a machine just like the one from this video and the timing on reverse is really bad can you do a video about it ? Thanks you
Really good thanks very much.
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can you make a video on timing the consew 206rb-1 gread vidios thanks chet
Great suggestion but I don't have one right now. Try this query and you may be able to infer what to do for yours. ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=industrial+sewing+machine+timing Also Consew has a manual available to the 206RB 5 and that may have some info that could still apply to your machine.
Very useful video. You taught me something new, again. Thanks, Michael
would this fix the missed bottom stitch every 80-100 stitches and the bunching of the thread here n there?
That sounds like a thread tension issue.
When you made your gauge for needle bar, were you measuring from top or bottom of needle clamp?
From the bottom. Check out the manual, there is a picture/figure showing where to measure.
I recently picked-up a 1508nh and tried to set the needle bar height. I set it to 52.3mm as you did in the video and the top of the needle bar hits the top of the machine. What should be the needle bar length? I works with a shorter needle, but wanted to use a 190r needle. Perhaps, someone changed it out and put a different length in place....I have searched the web to no avail. Thanks, Cheers.
Did you see this? alexanderdyer.work/uploads/manuals/Juki%201508%20Engineer.pdf
@@AlexanderDyer Thanks for the link. As suspected, the needle bar that was in my machine was the wrong length and little bent/warped 🤔. I replaced with the correct bar and voila!
When turning the hand wheel towards me, should I see the bobbin hook moving?
Yes it should move. If you have a safety clutch it probably needs reset.
I have the NH version of this. When I use reverse, it throws this timing out of wack. Is something elsewhere slipping or moving? I tried this a few times.
I recommend looking at the hook while operating the machine slowly by hand to watch the sewing motion to see where the error lies. Then you will know what to do.
@AlexanderDyer Eventually.... turned out the drive gear was not in the right location, the hook gear was then not in the right place to compensate. Turns out someone dropped the hook gear out of the machine, maybe when changing the hook. I think we moved the gear 3 or 4 teeth to get all the spot screws back into the correct places. Hint: 1st screw in rotation is the spot screw.
How to double needle lock stitch machine hook timing please
Same way twice
What is the needle type for this model? :) is it 190r mtx19?
According to my manual, some take the 135 X 17 and some take the 190 . Some people will switch needle systems between these two but that does require that the machine be re-timed. If you have a new machine and one needle system doesn't work, you could try the other to see if that solves an issue.
@@AlexanderDyer Thanks man! U never fail to reply. I will test both needles out. Retiming seems to be complex, not sure if I can do that on my own though. :)
my machine to print the material rotates around what it will be
Trying to do timing on my Singer 20u but one of the two screws on the gear won't budge. It's slightly stripped on one side plus it feels really stuck in there. Any tips on getting it out?
It will probably need to be drilled out. A dicey prospect that can damage the threads if not careful but that can be replaced too. Get a left handed drill and an easy out.
Thankfully that screw did not end up being the problem after all. But thank you for replying.@@AlexanderDyer
Should I sell off my Juki ddl 8700 n get a walking foot or keep it?
Nothing wrong with an 8700 it is just made for different sewing projects than a walking foot. I have a dozen machines so 2 is a completely reasonable arrangement.
thank you for sharing. intresting content👍💪
😀 I appreciate you.
Hey Alexander,
So you know industrial sewing machines probably better than anyone on the youtube world along with some of the leatherworker guys as well. But what would be the top 5 sewing machines old or new i should look out for to buy and keep as investments. For example would be certain machines that are known to hold there value and outstanding to sew with? I know some designs are better than others no matter the age. I'm referring to flatbed and cylinder. Thanks in advance.
I made this linked video since I have received a version of your question a hundred times. 🙂 Thank you for your comment, keep them coming and enjoy the video. ruclips.net/video/lbhWnIwu8rk/видео.html
hi al can you tell me where i can get a ajusters or repair manual for the consew 206rb-1 thanks i like your veds very much
This is the closest thing that I have; strongbolt.work/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Consew206RB-5OwnersManual.pdf
When turning the hand wheel towards me, should I always see that bobbin hook spinning? Looks as though it's standing still.
Yes it should move. If you have a safety clutch it probably needs reset.
how about the cuting sistem ?
I don't guess I know what you mean. I don't have a thread cutter but I think they can be installed.
Thanks!
Thank you for your support. It is very much appreciated. 🙏
Thanks sir
Is your 1508 an N or NH? The name plate says N but you used the NH needle bar height, 52.3 mm. Other pictures I've seen of NH machines say that on the name plate.
Well, you caught me. I have gone a bit off path with that. There are two different needle systems that can be used on this series of machine, one being longer than the other. By using the needle system and bar height of the NH I have in effect converted the N into an NH.
It's good know that option is there. I recently ordered a 1508N and studied for a while the differences in the N and NH before deciding the NH was not worth, to me, the almost 30% higher cost. The primary upgrades on the NH were the much heavier hand wheel, 190R needle system, and slightly different feed motion.
Alexander Dyer i need help with a machine. kingmax gc1510l-25 it appears to be sewing in reverse. has a wheel on top thats spring loaded i took it off. i also cant find info on it. bought 2nd hand
hi can you tell me where you bought thismachine I'm in the uk
iveseen them on ebay and amazon from china but not sure ishouldbuy one
I bought this machine from nickosew.com which is local to me here in Missouri. I have seen some pretty good online stores in the UK but I have never bought more that a few hard to find parts. If you can buy locally shipping would be more affordable.
hey
what do you think is a Better machine 1508n or dnu1541
I think they are both good. Specs are on Juki's site so you can compare. The 1541 tends to be more affordable so if it will do what you need but the 1508 has some slight advantages in capability if needed. I use them both and like them both.
hey thanks so much for the reply
ha MR DYER were can I buy a binder for my JUKI 1541
Try www.hendersonsewing.com tell them Alexander Dyer sent you!
thank you for sharing! & this LU 1508 made by Japan?!
Yes. Made in Japan. :)
Can the walking foot and presser foot's alternating vertical movement
set and change manually (by screw) or it semi permanent?
Similar to other walking foot machines like the 563 and the Singer 211 the alternating vertical movement can be adjusted to increase or decrease the height of alternating movement.
okaay, Thank's Mr.Alex!
Nice sir
GOOD!
Спасибо
Это можно сделать гораздо проще...
Eccentric cam why demej
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Anyway i can get your number for phone a technician 😊.
need help with a machine if you have time. king max gc1510l-25 i could txt u some videos and maby you can help. i could pay someone or i could learn and the art wont die with the old dogs