idk how Tom stepped into this role andimmediately stuck every landing but he did it. His videos are al bangers and his game recommendations slap my whole bod
I really appreciate Tom coming into his own style. The opening really shows a different approach, and it offers a delightful addition to the su&sd team
Tom's humour has a 100% success rate on me - aurally and visually. That last second was absoutely the nail in the coffin. Thank you for the excellent work!
seems like there's a lot of little cute references in the game itself, like at 10:50 you can see Statute 1982.3(d) which is the year blade runner was released
@@scottatwood5721 Sorry, my joke fell flat. He says, "Is that part of the test?" in the interview. Asking which desert only adds to the awkwardness of the interview. It is such a great part of a really great film. To Keir Cooke point, players of this game should have to say "Let me tell you about my mother!" ^.^
In case it's not obvious and anyone is wondering why it's so, the robots are given the answers to the maze while humans have to navigate them because this gives the robots time to read and memorize their behaviours while pretending to do the maze. Once things start it would totally give it away if you got caught peeking to remind yourself.
I was ready to get rid of this after playing it a few times and then seeing Vasel’s negative review... but there was a part of me that knew this was more RPG than proper board game so I likely wasn’t exploring it as deeply as I could in the ways I should’ve done. After watching this review, I moved it to my RPGs section and it feels much more appropriate there. I’d say don’t bother watching The Dice Tower review as Vasel approaches it as purely a board game and thus, might be missing the point? Brewster has done the game a massive credit with this video by understanding what it truly aims to be.
Iunno, the game is fun but Vasel does have some valid points. Playing as a human isn't that interesting (especially if you don't get a wacky job), meaning the game is great only half the time it's played. If the human role had more to work with (some hidden goal or secret backstory maybe) to force them to act more suspiciously, then the game would be great all of the time. Sure you could just roleplay that awkwardness in yourself but your only goal is to win/survive, so there's no real incentive to do that and risk the loss
I think the sell of it being a party game for two is really apt. There’s something about the god eye of a neutral observer that I think helps enforce the role playing in a soft way.
Thank-you for talking about "The Cringe". It's one of the biggest stumbling blocks for many people to really get into gaming, especially RPG's. As people, we are always "playing" something - whether that's trying to be stoic during hard times or pretending to enjoy something when we don't. I wish people could get over their resistance to enjoying the experience of inhabiting a character and letting their imagination go.
When I watched the harsh Dice Tower review of this one, I KNEW that someone at SUSD was going to take the complete opposite side! Glad I bought this a couple of days ago before this review made copies scarce haha
With each review I grow closer and closer to buying Hundreds of Horses, a game which you have never even reviewed, nor mentioned on your site. But I see them. They are everywhere.
I've seen games you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on hexes on cardboard from Orion. I watched Meeples, glitter in the dark near the Three-to-one harbour. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to dice.
"The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping."
I should know better than to take a drink at any point during a SU&SD video by now. I really should... I let my guard down for just a bit during the closing bit and that musical sting at the very end almost killed me.
Inhuman Conditions has been one of the greatest additions to my boardgame collection of the last several years. So happy to see it getting some love and attention from the broader community. It's an incredibly well designed and hilarious game.
This seems like a wholly amazing "minigame" to add to a normal RPG night when playing a game like Cyberpunk. Having this, instead of just rolling a few dice, to determine if someone is a robot in an investigative RPG about catching robots would really just amp the game up to 11. Bought right away.
So glad I Kickstarted this. I'm looking forward to playing it at party nights and at conventions since I think it really shines as a two-player party game where the silent audience gets to try and puzzle it out themselves. 5-minute rounds mean you're not out of the action yourself for long, and the ability to switch up who is investigating whom, etc. To me, this is the perfect compliment to a party weekend filled with other board games.
I spent the entire video after the first soda sponsorship thing thinking "he's a violent robot and it's one of the conditions and hes gonna reveal by the end of the video"...just in case that was what you were thinking...I already stamped you red! To the refinery with ya!
I love Tom style and game choices. They are so weird and different from the rest of the crew that it just makes sense that they got another person to do it. Great video!
Fog of Love also plays best "with 3", yeah it's just two people playing but having someone there to share the "Oh no he didn't!" moments really helps you get into character and makes the fight Steve and Vanessa had at Ikea all the more salacious. I TOLD STEVE THE HEMNES WOULDN'T FIT WITH OUR MODERN DECOR WHY DIDN'T HE LISTEN!?
They can go back to the video from the Olden Days when the illegality of boardgaming was established, I don't believe that was ever repealed in the lore.
Tries too hard in the comedy bits. The other guys get me rolling, and even when they are trying too hard it still comes off funny and endearing, but Tom just falls flat for me. Oddly enough, I love his breakdowns and reviews. If I could get an edit without the jokes he'd be a top reviewer for me.
There was a similar old print and play called "Voight Kampff" where you had nerf guns, and had to shoot each other instead of using stamps / slamming the table. I recommend doing that with this game if you've got the guns.
"Trying to get people into role-playing is often like trying to coax Tom Waits out of a dive bar." First, that's hilarious. Second, that's true. Third, if you haven't watched Coffee & Cigarettes, you really need to.
Was really interested in this game and wanted to order it, only to find that the creators proclaim on the website where you can order it, that "the main thing about Cops is how Bastards they All Are". And no, this was apparently not ironic or sarcastic.
@@AlexanderNash Great reply. Your absolutely right to generally insult every person working in law enforcement. Not close minded at all. I mean, it's practically proven that there is not a single man or woman in law enforcement that ist not racist. And of course did you consider all the other countries outside the US. But that wasn't necessary, as all Policeman and Woman around the world are the same. I salute to you Sir, as you are absolutely not close minded and a BASTARD yourself.
Great review. Unfortunately I still haven't gotten around to playing it because of covid and now that things are opening up I'm too busy with work to get a group together. I did however play heaps of their first game Secret Hitler. Have you played it?
I would probably never actually buy this game because it's pretty outside my tastes but the effort that went into the theatrics of the set is amazing. The only thing to make it better would be hollowing out an old cassette recorder so that when you hit record, it spun the empty tape and started a countdown timer. That way you can start it off by going "do you mind if I record this interview?" and then click the tape on.
You can just print one module at a time, and build up from there treating the other ones as expansions. You don't even need all the jobs/backgrounds to start with. I would print all the penalties though, for the lols.
If I had a mind to I wouldn't wanna be like you And if I had time to I wouldn't wanna talk to you Oh-ooooh I don't care what you do I wouldn't wanna be like you
I look forward to people being concerned about Tom's comment about how it's illegal to test the game with recommend player counters. Right know everyone knows it's because of a pandemic, but I wonder if people will remember when watching in two or three years.
Does anyone know if there is a recording of them playing this game at Aw Shux? I tried to find it, but I couldn't work out where it was. Update! For those searching, it is on twitch. It is on day two of the streams, at around the 4 hour mark of "AwSHUX Day 2 - Flourish [Starling Games]"
I'm in the same boat, can't find it for purchase at all, except one listing on eBay for $130. Ridiculous. Think I'll just use the print & play until they do some kind of restock
To whoever cares: As a hearing impaired, I have issues hearing lower tones, but I can hear higher tones normally. So to be able to hear what is being said by people in videos, I generally have to turn up the volume quite a bit. So the issue, then. Sharp changes to very loud high tones become rather painful. For those who care, I would recommend the sharp change be to pretend loud music or change frequencies or something. However, doesn't mean I didn't absolutely love the review! Because I certainly did! 😄
After saying Orange 3 times, I thought he was going to reveal himself as an aggressive robot
that was my thought too! maybe that mystery is meant to stay with us
No, he finished the video in an odd way, rather than with the usual schpiel. I'm betting he did the entire review as a patient robot.
Nicely observed.
He's clearly a robot, he even has the red stamp
he is, haven't you seen the Nemesis review?
Tom has been one of the best pickups for SUSD. Definitely appreciate his different style and sense of humour.
Agree 150%
He’s the one they’ve kept right? so that’s good 😂
His sense of humor is so bad, that it is good
Yeah! Way better than that Quinns guy! Show was never the same after he joined :P
Tom is a just a gleeful lil hunk of wholesome meat, he contrasts great with the witty British cynicism that SUSD normally offers
OMG, I was just reviewing some of the Print and Play materials--and one of the Suspect jobs is "Sponsored by an Energy Drink Brand."
someone is sus!!!
idk how Tom stepped into this role andimmediately stuck every landing but he did it. His videos are al bangers and his game recommendations slap my whole bod
Your bod must be extistential horror.
@@billyhyde1415 uheh ah ahyehyehyeh
Is that a Big Joel reference?
@@HenryRSeymour I've been found out!
So apparently Tom is mildly appreciative when faced with existential horror
Game: I will make you question your existence.
Tom: _I'm listening..._
I somehow read that as "mildly attractive" and it still made sense
It was excellent funny. Ten points to Griffindor!
I really appreciate Tom coming into his own style. The opening really shows a different approach, and it offers a delightful addition to the su&sd team
similar enough to not be jarring to the format, but different enough to have a unique style and voice compared to matt and quinns
4 orange references? Yah, definitely a robot.
Tom's humour has a 100% success rate on me - aurally and visually. That last second was absoutely the nail in the coffin.
Thank you for the excellent work!
Literally guffawed. Cannot remember the last time I did.
somehow, out of all of the jokes, catch-2049 got me laughing the hardest
god I'm such a Blade Runner nerd
This video was made for people like us.
seems like there's a lot of little cute references in the game itself, like at 10:50 you can see Statute 1982.3(d) which is the year blade runner was released
Voight-Kampf Test: The Game is an all time great one sentence sell of a board game.
The moment I saw the game components I immediately understood the concept and was very interested.
_"You're in a desert..."_
I feel like any violent robot that doesn't slam the table with a shout of "Let me tell you about my mother!" is falling short of their potential.
Is that part of the test?
@@scottatwood5721 But... what desert? ... I have to know!
Reaction time is a factor in this so please pay attention and answer as quickly as you can.
@@scottatwood5721 Sorry, my joke fell flat. He says, "Is that part of the test?" in the interview. Asking which desert only adds to the awkwardness of the interview. It is such a great part of a really great film. To Keir Cooke point, players of this game should have to say "Let me tell you about my mother!" ^.^
But you're not helping, Leon.
In case it's not obvious and anyone is wondering why it's so, the robots are given the answers to the maze while humans have to navigate them because this gives the robots time to read and memorize their behaviours while pretending to do the maze. Once things start it would totally give it away if you got caught peeking to remind yourself.
I love that!
This is one of the things we brought up in playtests, and I had no idea how they solved it until now, and it's genius.
I was ready to get rid of this after playing it a few times and then seeing Vasel’s negative review... but there was a part of me that knew this was more RPG than proper board game so I likely wasn’t exploring it as deeply as I could in the ways I should’ve done. After watching this review, I moved it to my RPGs section and it feels much more appropriate there.
I’d say don’t bother watching The Dice Tower review as Vasel approaches it as purely a board game and thus, might be missing the point? Brewster has done the game a massive credit with this video by understanding what it truly aims to be.
Iunno, the game is fun but Vasel does have some valid points. Playing as a human isn't that interesting (especially if you don't get a wacky job), meaning the game is great only half the time it's played. If the human role had more to work with (some hidden goal or secret backstory maybe) to force them to act more suspiciously, then the game would be great all of the time. Sure you could just roleplay that awkwardness in yourself but your only goal is to win/survive, so there's no real incentive to do that and risk the loss
My wife and i played it 5 times, and 4/5 times one of us was the human. Completely ruined any enjoyment we could have gotten out of this game.
Honestly, if CAPTCHA tests are done by small talk, I'd be scrapped for parts in a reprocessor.
I think the sell of it being a party game for two is really apt. There’s something about the god eye of a neutral observer that I think helps enforce the role playing in a soft way.
Thank-you for talking about "The Cringe". It's one of the biggest stumbling blocks for many people to really get into gaming, especially RPG's. As people, we are always "playing" something - whether that's trying to be stoic during hard times or pretending to enjoy something when we don't. I wish people could get over their resistance to enjoying the experience of inhabiting a character and letting their imagination go.
Damn Tom has been an absolute unit in lockdown
When I watched the harsh Dice Tower review of this one, I KNEW that someone at SUSD was going to take the complete opposite side! Glad I bought this a couple of days ago before this review made copies scarce haha
With each review I grow closer and closer to buying Hundreds of Horses, a game which you have never even reviewed, nor mentioned on your site.
But I see them.
They are everywhere.
Haven't seen a comment about the Tom Waits line, so this is the appreciation for that joke
I've seen games you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on hexes on cardboard from Orion. I watched Meeples, glitter in the dark near the Three-to-one harbour. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to dice.
"The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping."
What do you mean I'm not helping?
@@eelexa I mean you're not helping! Why is that, Leon?
I've found that any problems the game has can be smoothed over with a nice cool TANGO ORANGE.
I should know better than to take a drink at any point during a SU&SD video by now. I really should... I let my guard down for just a bit during the closing bit and that musical sting at the very end almost killed me.
Inhuman Conditions has been one of the greatest additions to my boardgame collection of the last several years. So happy to see it getting some love and attention from the broader community. It's an incredibly well designed and hilarious game.
I am sold.i want to try " Blade Runner: The Unofficial Board Game " if anything, for the Tom Waits reference
Can the techniques in this game be used to identify real robots? Asking for a friend.
This seems like a wholly amazing "minigame" to add to a normal RPG night when playing a game like Cyberpunk. Having this, instead of just rolling a few dice, to determine if someone is a robot in an investigative RPG about catching robots would really just amp the game up to 11. Bought right away.
This game SCREAMS bladerunner
If you ever get the chance, I also recommend reading the short story precursor to Bladerunner called "Electric Ant"
@@richardmoore5347 oh wow thank you, didn't know that! Ill sure do, i just got around the bladerunner new comics, they are really good
Yeah, he said exactly that 7:00
What song is playing in that absolutely amazing intro?
So glad I Kickstarted this. I'm looking forward to playing it at party nights and at conventions since I think it really shines as a two-player party game where the silent audience gets to try and puzzle it out themselves. 5-minute rounds mean you're not out of the action yourself for long, and the ability to switch up who is investigating whom, etc. To me, this is the perfect compliment to a party weekend filled with other board games.
basically,the Voight-Kampff machine from Bladerunner...neat!
I spent the entire video after the first soda sponsorship thing thinking "he's a violent robot and it's one of the conditions and hes gonna reveal by the end of the video"...just in case that was what you were thinking...I already stamped you red! To the refinery with ya!
Bought this game because of this after finding a copy with the old edition box because it looks so good. The game is amazing and very unique
I wanted to buy it but it's only available in the US, you have to pay a fortune to have it delivered to the UK :(
I just heard this played on Friends at the Table and I was so excited to see it reviewed here!
I love Tom style and game choices. They are so weird and different from the rest of the crew that it just makes sense that they got another person to do it. Great video!
Love this game. The artwork, the premise, it's all great.
Not sure if this show of emotion means your a human or an overcompensating robot 😉
OMG Tom! Great review. Would LOVE your top 5-10 solo RPGs... I'm a huge fan as well!
Top tier board game reviewer right here. Nothing else compares to this dude.
Love the review! What song is that in the intro? I can't find it anywhere and it bangs
0:59 the face of existential horror
I’ve always wanted a game Kinda like this but for Papers Please. I’ve always wanted Papers Please the board game. Is sat weird?
Nah
Watching other Tom's review, Tom had the Sponsored by an Energy Drink personality, and was clearly a patient robot.
Fog of Love also plays best "with 3", yeah it's just two people playing but having someone there to share the "Oh no he didn't!" moments really helps you get into character and makes the fight Steve and Vanessa had at Ikea all the more salacious.
I TOLD STEVE THE HEMNES WOULDN'T FIT WITH OUR MODERN DECOR WHY DIDN'T HE LISTEN!?
"Other fizzy orange drinks are available".
So, the running gag with the orange soda was his "tell" that he's a robot, right?
This is now my favourite SUSD video. I have watched it 3 times, and there's always some little new detail I pick. Great job!
I've deducted from this video that Tom is a robot. Next.
Chummer, the Nemesis review already spoiled that;)
I like that every Tom video has a piece of Los Campesinos! merch in it. Great band, and great review as well!
Such a great review, really enjoy Tom's style and am so glad he joined the SUSD team! Only downside being I now want yet another board game!
when someone stumbles across this video in a few years, they will be wondering: "why was playing all of the scenarios ILLEGAL?"
They can go back to the video from the Olden Days when the illegality of boardgaming was established, I don't believe that was ever repealed in the lore.
Damn I love Tom!! Amazing addition to SU&SD. His style is great.
You said print and play and I immediately paused to start printing it whilst I finished the rest of the video lol
"existential horror" *nods approvingly*
Are we still talking about how Tom is a great addition to the team? Because that's never getting old.
Tries too hard in the comedy bits. The other guys get me rolling, and even when they are trying too hard it still comes off funny and endearing, but Tom just falls flat for me. Oddly enough, I love his breakdowns and reviews. If I could get an edit without the jokes he'd be a top reviewer for me.
Can someone explain to me how the phrase ‘Shut up and sit down’ was not in Tom’s script when this is the basic premise of the game
You don’t shut up, though!
Voigt-Kampff Test: The Game
Hold on, super glowing review (I own this, it's a REALLY accurate review, the praise is well earned), but I never saw the Pear Of Endorsement?
They generally only give that to games they recommend broadly, and this one seems more niche.
A teardrop in the desert on a turtle? - A catch-20-49 question.
There was a similar old print and play called "Voight Kampff" where you had nerf guns, and had to shoot each other instead of using stamps / slamming the table. I recommend doing that with this game if you've got the guns.
The box unfurling between the two players like that is very reminiscent of the tortures tool bundle you see in films.
So this is Blade Runner the board game? I love it 😁
"Trying to get people into role-playing is often like trying to coax Tom Waits out of a dive bar."
First, that's hilarious. Second, that's true. Third, if you haven't watched Coffee & Cigarettes, you really need to.
Fantastic stuff Tom, it feels like you've really come into your own style these last few videos.
In some sense, this game is like playing Five Nights at Freddy's where you might just get jump scared by a killer robot if you are too slow
Was really interested in this game and wanted to order it, only to find that the creators proclaim on the website where you can order it, that "the main thing about Cops is how Bastards they All Are". And no, this was apparently not ironic or sarcastic.
@@AlexanderNash Great reply. Your absolutely right to generally insult every person working in law enforcement. Not close minded at all. I mean, it's practically proven that there is not a single man or woman in law enforcement that ist not racist. And of course did you consider all the other countries outside the US. But that wasn't necessary, as all Policeman and Woman around the world are the same. I salute to you Sir, as you are absolutely not close minded and a BASTARD yourself.
"Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about ... your mother."
Great review. Unfortunately I still haven't gotten around to playing it because of covid and now that things are opening up I'm too busy with work to get a group together. I did however play heaps of their first game Secret Hitler. Have you played it?
I left a like as requested... i circled the button five time counter clockwise before clicking as humans do, fellow human
I would probably never actually buy this game because it's pretty outside my tastes but the effort that went into the theatrics of the set is amazing. The only thing to make it better would be hollowing out an old cassette recorder so that when you hit record, it spun the empty tape and started a countdown timer. That way you can start it off by going "do you mind if I record this interview?" and then click the tape on.
Love this video, thank you Tom!
ALSO BUY ORANGE
"Have yourself an acceptable day, citizen" *S I P S*
holy mother that took me by surprise i can't breathe
Getting this in Europe for a reasonable price is impossible and the P&P version is like 200 pages long :(
You can just print one module at a time, and build up from there treating the other ones as expansions. You don't even need all the jobs/backgrounds to start with. I would print all the penalties though, for the lols.
If I had a mind to
I wouldn't wanna be like you
And if I had time to
I wouldn't wanna talk to you
Oh-ooooh
I don't care what you do
I wouldn't wanna be like you
Such a great review! SUaSD and The Great British Baking show have been my anti-anxiety balm throughout this insane year. Thank you for that!
Ever retire a human by mistake?
In your position, that is a risk...
I love Tom's editing the most. So unique and you can immediately tell it's him
I feel like this is the second or third time I've found myself saying "This is Tom's best review so far" and, like, damn
Bonkersly great review. Tom, you have a fab sense of humour!
This is one of those times where I wish I was famous so I could play this game with Harrison Ford...
So glad you know about Onitama!
Now 1v1 me, bro.
Dang. Now I want to buy a Tango Orange... ...AND the board game... ;) I loved this review!!
"Let me tell you about my mother..."
Hey so imma need that intro track please
Game looks real good, BUT DA REVIEW IS AMAZING
Tom Waits reference? All right, Tom's won me over :)
I look forward to people being concerned about Tom's comment about how it's illegal to test the game with recommend player counters. Right know everyone knows it's because of a pandemic, but I wonder if people will remember when watching in two or three years.
Does anyone know if there is a recording of them playing this game at Aw Shux? I tried to find it, but I couldn't work out where it was.
Update! For those searching, it is on twitch. It is on day two of the streams, at around the 4 hour mark of "AwSHUX Day 2 - Flourish [Starling Games]"
It's the Tom! Hey, everybody! It's the Tom! I sure do love those Tom videos.
Tom you absolutely killed it with this review
100% ordered this game before the review was done...
This is awesome
This looks like it could be really good fun, but doesn't look like you can buy it anywhere??
I'm in the same boat, can't find it for purchase at all, except one listing on eBay for $130. Ridiculous. Think I'll just use the print & play until they do some kind of restock
@@evanhiltzik00 it's a real shame, guess it was just a limited run?
@@ellismccoy that's all I can think of too. Would be a damn shame if they never reprint though, this seems like a great addition to the shelf
To whoever cares:
As a hearing impaired, I have issues hearing lower tones, but I can hear higher tones normally. So to be able to hear what is being said by people in videos, I generally have to turn up the volume quite a bit.
So the issue, then. Sharp changes to very loud high tones become rather painful. For those who care, I would recommend the sharp change be to pretend loud music or change frequencies or something.
However, doesn't mean I didn't absolutely love the review! Because I certainly did! 😄
intro song?
Intro soundtrack please?
Orange you all glad Tom is here
Interview sparring match!? That sounds rad.