I'll be on several climbs over the next few years and to save weight, I've decided to leave my B3 boots, gloves and down jacket at home and just think about Mao instead.
I think you will find that "Xi Jingping thought" is the only way to fly these days and "The Governance of China" is the tome to take along. You may need extra help, though - there are four volumes.
My car was out of gas. I had rolled to a stop on a desolate road. Even the fumes were gone. I was trapped. But then I remembered Chairman Mao.. and the engine started.
It could be worse. The North Koreans, having heard of the Mao bust, and in a bid not to be outdone, claim Dear Leader King II Sung climbed the Kangshung Face and chiseled a bust of himself while on the summit before ultimately opting to descend by swan diving down to the Kangshung Glacier, where he mitigated the impact by ending the 11,000 foot free-fall with a perfect forward roll, a flawless dismount….oh, and all without oxygen of course.
The [insert country of choice] gov't would never tell a lie. Right? I guess the real difference is the quality of the lies/deceptions; some are just more obvious than others
The Chinese made it to Summit in middle of Night and took George Mallory's Camera that Sandy Irvine had to take pics of his Boss, George. Then pushed Andrew's body of The path.
Takes a lot to admit you might be wrong on something you're so passionate and knowledgeable about. You gained a lot of respect from me. Keep up the good work, your channel is awesome
Chairman Moa, was very clever ; he asked his climbing team to bring back a bunch of "Pet Rocks" from the summit. The climbers must have searched for hours looking for the now "endangered " "Pet Rocks". The summit of Everest is just one of two natural "nesting areas"; it's hard to look for those little devils while climbing a "gigantic rock." . The climbers face another danger on their journey ; the"Wild Yeti ". It is widely reported they live all over Everest , and are known to surprise attack on camp sites and climbers at any time night or day. It is a miracle Moa's" team made it back alive and unscathed.
I'm sick and tired of people bringing up this topic. Listen, my dad was camping on the summit, just chilling, around the time the Chinese said they summited. He said he never saw anyone. Chinese summit claim 100% disproven, so let's move on to more important topics, like how we can channel Chairman Mao's energy to finally end world hunger.
A c-section with no anesthetic; painless. Your thoughts of Moa "did you a solid" . . You received a miracle straight from Chairman Moa. If you want another miracle please leave your cash donation of $100.00 at the hospital's exit. A doorman will be there to collect the donation.
@@michaeltracy2356Omgosh, don't give people ideas! 😂 There are so many firsts already that we're down to Yeti crap like "first half-Irish/half-German woman between the ages of 45-51, from the state of Rhode Island, married to a New Yorker, & missing three toes to reach the summit."
Thoughts of Chairman Mao have eliminated every negative thought or event in my life. I have no negative memories of anything. Someone told me my ex-wife was an awful person. I don't even remember her.
@@bananek87 I shouldn’t have said “that other one” as there are several. I would rather not call the channel out by name but if you look you will find quickly.
Sometime, it would be very interesting if you created a a piece about closed-circuit oxygen systems on Everest. Bourdillon and Evans apparently came very close to beating Hillary and Tenzing using closed-end apparatuses in 1953 and apparently their use was contemplated as early as 1938, but I've never heard of anyone using closed-end equipment since 1953. I'm surprised that no one has at least attempted this in all the years since. Your videos have become my favorite source for intelligent discussion of Everest related topics, so if sometime you wanted to tackle an interesting subject that no one else seems to be interesting in, I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts on this.
Small but interesting detail I remembered and found again today. Seven years ago, Jake Norton posted a video of himself rummaging through the 1960 high camp for the Chinese at roughly 28,000ft. 1:33 into the video, he shows some items on the ground and amongst the items is a small rock hammer and a carabiner. He pays little attention to the hammer at the time. However, I think it would’ve been a cool artifact to have (especially since he seems so keen on collecting items from the mountain). Secondly, I can’t recall many climbers talking about carabiners on Everest? Do you know if that was possibly used to tie onto a rope on the way up and down? Or perhaps they used them at the second step somehow? Also he found an O2 bottle with “gas” in it still. Wonder why the heroes left that behind, especially after running out on the victorious climb?
As a dedicated Maoist who was on The Long March with Dear Leader I can confirm absolutely that thoughts of his person are all that is required to perform miracles and superhuman feats of all kinds. See in the dark? Not a problem, just think of the vision of Dear Leader's eyes and you will see fine! Unable to breathe because there is no oxygen? Simply recite his most powerful thoughts and words and your lungs will fill with fresh warm spring air as if you were right at sea level. Of course these minor obstacles on the way to the summit were easily overcome by those who think of his Most Dear Person. /s
I think it is unlikely they reached the third step. Most likely they climbed the second step and being already late in the day - without oxygen, water, and light for a no moon night- they turned around.
Malory and Irvine very likely may have been the First to Summit with Oxygen. The Chinese were the First to Summit with Propaganda. I hope this clears things up. 🏔️
@@michaeltracy2356 another big problem is the "dawn" photos. Analysis showed they were taken later in the day. So if they were coming down from the summit and there was light for a couple hours already it begs the question why didn't they take the picture before, maybe in the false summit. With the climbers.
I was born in Poland - a former communist country. In our youth we were also fed propaganda. The truth was not important then. The opinion of the party was important. Knowing the communist mentality, I do not believe that the Chinese reached the summit in 1960. If they reached the summit in 1960, why did they organize another big expedition in 1975?
@@sparkypeps1 It was probably the greatest expedition in history. Why didn't they organize such events later? Maybe because they finally achieved their goal?
It’s unclear if that was truly the case. There’s no reason to believe they knew this would be their last attempt. It appears that, upon seeing their cooker had been blown out of high camp, their goal was simply to fix the rope up the Second Step and conduct a brief reconnaissance above it. They would then return and leave the actual summit push to others-other climbers were available. If this had been a true summit attempt, support climbers would have come up to replace the cooker and bring them water. They could have sent someone down to Camp 6 to retrieve the cooker, brought it up to melt snow in Camp 7, and prepared accordingly. The fact that this wasn’t done strongly suggests there was no intention to summit. It seems that the decision to claim a "summit" was made only after they returned to North Col, and I am skeptical of their story about it taking so many days to return to North Col. Their actions are also inconsistent with a genuine summit plan. It would make no sense to send four people to the summit with such limited oxygen. A more sensible approach would have been for two climbers to fix the rope on the Second Step, then leave all the remaining oxygen for the final two. The two support climbers could have returned to high camp, brought up additional oxygen, and cached it at the Second Step for use on the descent. Most likely, the incentive to summit was a significant factor, and they may have devised a plan to achieve it. However, that plan was never executed for whatever reason, and they ultimately decided to rely on propaganda rather than photographs.
@@michaeltracy2356 Typos: "what they was seeing", "there were other climbs available.", "had someone descent to", "so many dats to return", "decided to us propaganda". Easy to fix at three dots, then I will remove my comment.
Another possibility is that they did make it to the summit but they lied about having no water, no oxygen, camping out overnight etc. It seems illogical to lie about summitting and then add other lies that make the story even less likely.
First, they would have had to have lied about their oxygen systems capabilities and actually had a system that allowed them have 36 hours of oxygen, or If they lied about it being night and they lied about not having photos too, I guess they could have made the summit. But with oxygen and water, they still have the problem of getting to summit at night and returning with absolutely no one seeing them or photographing them from below. Also, they would have had to pick up rocks from the Thrombolite layer and lie about them being from the summit. In any case, the Chinese also claim to have reached the summit in 1969 by three solo climbers -- they each climbed separately, without oxygen. And for some reason, people are not pushing this equally ridiculous claim.
@@michaeltracy2356 I don't think the actual climbers wrote the reports , it was more likely a party official , who then went on to have a career in journalism 😊
Just picked up the Audible of that book. Sounds like it speaks to a lot of what's going on, period, on social media. (When I was opening YT today, I was hoping to see a video by you. Thanks.)
I can write a convincing and beautiful description of my climb of mount Everest in 1951, 13 years before I was born, that will be more convincing than the chinese description, specially with the data we have today and AI. On that opportunity, I also had the chance to fix Ayrton Senna's helmet there. And, to prove it, I'll show you some negatives (not only prints) and rocks. My mother in law is a gemologist and I'm quite convinced that she can help me present some stones from the Everest summit "made in Brazil". You won't believe what is being done with gems nowadays. It'll take some time but evidences will be "rock solid"... Hillary and Norgay registered everything. The chinese wrote a book.
Wasn't it the thoughts of Chairman Mao who helped the Egyptians build the pyramids with their basic technology?, or did I read it wrong? TY Michael, another well thought out & enjoyable video. 🙏🙏
The one startling fact can not be overcome by the Chinese: Hilary and Tensing have summit photos from 1953. So how come the chinese TEAM have no summit photos from 1960? Did the chinese not invent photography before then? 🤔😂
@@lulabellegnostic8402 Perhaps in 1960 the Chinese did not have the resources to equip the Everest climbers with small cameras with flash bulbs or flash cubes. While small cameras w/flash were available in western markets at the time, maybe they just couldn't obtain them or the flashbulbs. The flashbulbs were fragile one- or four-use disposable items. (Now wondering whether any discarded ones have ever been found way up there.) Flash cubes ('Magicubes') became available around 1960, so again, maybe the Chinese just couldn't get their hands on some. (These were roughly 1 inch plastic cubes containing 4 small flash bulbs. On the bottom were prongs that fit onto the top of small snapshot cameras. When you took a picture, the cube flashed then rotated so the next bulb was ready for your next shot. Once all 4 flashes from the Magicube were used, you just threw it away.)
Climber Andy Henderson in 1984 was near the summit of Everest when he had trouble with a crampon. He had to take his gloves off to fix it and his hands were instantly frost bitten. He ended up losing all his fingers on one hand and part of a thumb so i know those Chinese couldn't have done the handstand thing barefoot or just socks.
And Ed Webster lost many of his fingers climbing up the standard SE ridge - b/c he took off his gloves a few time to take early morning photos - he was a photographer - I (as a photographer) would likely have done the same thing despite the below freezing temp and NO supp O2. And they were barely hydrated. Described in detail in Webster's book "Snow in the Kingdom" (2000) where he along with three others pioneered a utterly daring climb up the Kangshung Face (in 1988) to reach the South Col and then take the standard southeast ridge to the summit (only Stephen Venables reach the summit - just barely - first Brit to reach summit (and return alive) w/o supp O2). PS: I'd NEVER climb Everest under any conditions - don't need to test myself that way, thank you.
I've just watched a video from 3 years ago (which mentioned you by name and your theory of the route Mallory and Irvine took). They had a photo of the supposed 3 Chinese climbers, and while hoping not to diss them personally, they didn't look Chinese, and if their bones were as terrible as their teeth, I don't know how they even managed to get anywhere near the summit. It might merely be a mislabeling of a photo. But there was somerhing very interesting - photos of Mallory smoking cigars and pipies. It has changed my view on why he chose Irvine and that I think they did not summit. Even if you don't inhale, those toxins dilute with your saliva and drip down your throat. Just ask my sister, with esophageal cancer at a relatively young age, with calcified arteries, who was otherwise fit and healthy. The last person we thought would ever get cancer. Mallory was 37, so not exactly a youngster, without all the modcons of today's climbing gear and clothes. He knew he would not make it without oxygen, hence his choice of the novice Irvine, being the most experienced with the oxygen system. He had a great drive as he knew this was most likely going to be his last chance, and may have taken unnecessary risks. There was a non flattering quote by a relative in that video too. He was also blamed for the dearh of 7 Sherpas due to a misjudgment 2 years previously I think it said. How true this all is, I dont know. But it certainly threw a different perspective on the continuing mystery, and wonder if it will ever be solved in our lifetimes or be a mystery of the ages.
These are all great reason that prove that Mallory died. However, there is not a real mystery about whether he survived or not. What people are interested in is whether he and Irvine reached the summit prior to their death. That Mallory was reckless and caused the deaths of 7 Sherpa in 1922 does indicate he has a reckless decision making process that caused him to put reaching the summit above safety in 1922. Whether he did the same thing in 1924 seems pretty clear -- because he and Irvine died. So, you should look at 1922 and see what you can learn about 1924. Given the choice of turning around in 1922 when conditions were dangerous and pressing on, Mallory chose to press on. Now, you argue that in 1924, Mallory didn't reach the summit. That means that given the choice of pushing on into dangerous conditions or turning around, he chose to turn around (given that he died on the descent). So, then why did he die? He just got extremely unlucky? Numerous Sherpa smoke -- some even while climbing the Mountain. They reach the summit just fine.
Using the thoughts of Mao i levitated to the summit and returned unseen. I even seen Irvine, the sleeping bag, three ice axes, and 2 cameras. Fortunately i studied Mao that hard i was able to smuggle them in my literal bum bag and hide them off the mountain forever. 🛐
I think you have compiled and presented the evidence which proves your conclusion, which I agree with. Let me ask some question: How long were the three summiters in the "death zone" during the expedition. How long did they climb without oxygen? What is their previous climbing experience and how many summits how they reached? And what is the highest they ever climbed before. I'd say we should credit Hornbein and Unsoeld for being the first to climb the north side of Everest. It was possibly the greatest climb in the history of the mountain, or very close to it.
Yes, that is why the spikes were found in place in 1975 and I was pretty sure I saw one in 2013 when I climbed it -- though I didn't really take the time to analyze it.
Hi Michael, sorry to bother you but ive just been watching 'The Epic of Everest' Captain Noel/outer sound project and approx 9 minutes in there is a few seconds of film footage of Mallory and Irvine, Mallory has a camera in his hand and the case is over his shoulder, any idea if its Mallorys? and if yes, was it returned to his family and any ideas what make?, it looks like a kodak pocket B but I'm no expert. Thanks.
It is Mallory's. Ruth asked that it be returned to her, but it is not clear if it was. It is not a VPK -- it is much larger. I have both the VPK and a model the same size as in that photo -- the one in the photo is much larger. I covered that particular piece in Epic of Everest in one of the camera videos. I'm in the process of redoing and consolidating all the information, so at some point, there will be a single "camera" video that covers all the important stuff relating to the cameras.
@michaeltracy2356 Thank you, I look forward to seeing that, quite an important detail that, if it was returned or not, and if the film in the camera Mallory was carrying was ever developed, have we seen any of the photos? So why did he supposedly borrowed Somerville's if he had his own, was there much of a weight diff in the camera Mallory had with him? Cheers again.
Just an semi-unrelated technical question, what is the process for determining the height that rock samples were taken from (apart from invoking the spirit of Chairman Mao and asking him, of course)?
Question: the”official” image of the summit rocks that you include in the vid… was the source of that image made before 1975? And if not, is there any visual record of them that can be dated to before 1975? Because cynical ol’ me can’t help but think it would’ve been easy for the ‘75 expedition to have got summit rocks, and then some nefarious soul could have placed the. in the archives and claimed that they were the 1960 rocks.
@@michaeltracy2356 Interesting. That cross-section (and any associated material from that study) might be the only reliable evidence of the rocks’ true provenance, then! Anything later could be from summit rocks gathered in later years.
Could it be possible that the Chinese did reach the summit and found it too difficult to pry up summit rocks and simply pick up the first loose/easy rocks they found on the way down?
Hillary had no problem pick up summit rocks. Jon Krakauer had no problem picking up summit rocks. Anatoli Boukreev had no problem picking up summit rocks.
Marvellous. Must admit to loving Daniel Lee's film - great fun and one can't help but wonder if all the superhero stunts in the greatly entertaining movie were perhaps a subversive commentary...
Michael, yes the rocks were originally red-tinged, and when they were exposed to the bust of Beloved Chairman Mao, the brilliance of His image bleached the nine rocks - ta da!
The summit rocks in the picture appear to be too light to be the same rock type as on the summit, but the picture in itself is hardly conclusive. Identifying rocks from just a picture is usually very fishy, and the picture has a low resolution. Do you know if those rocks can be examined? Are they in a museum?
Anyone who knew what to look for could find float samples matching the stratigraphy of summit rocks at EBC (both sides). With some deft rock hammer work, you could make 9 samples that roughly matched the 1960 samples. Might be a quick buck for someone who has CCP contacts...
If the Chinese supporting social media via superchat for favourable content is true, I'm not sure how unwilling these content creators are. Keep an eye out for my upcoming "The Chinese are most excellent at everything" media output.
I am from India. Have lived in socialist era of India. You could not get any position, any promotion, any thing done without brown nosing yourself. You had to lick your superiors butt obnoxiously. And you might think those superiors would consider it flattery and scorn this. But no. They would actively try to bring anybody who flattered and provided the with gifts up. You could shove your merit up yours. They did not care. Because they themselves had risen doing that and expected it naturally from you. Secondly if you belonged to an organisation or a party then the head of that party or organisation was nothing short of second coming of christ. You HAD TO DEITIFY him or her. I mean it was absolutely required of you. Critical thinking, dissenting was absolutely forbidden. So what the Chinese wrote is not at all surprising to me. Because India was exactly that kind of a society. Infact even today the oldest political party (INC) of India suffers from the same. The head of the Poltical party is nepo baby.... Whose family had been head of the party for 5 generation. You can absolutely not criticise them. You have to show absolute devotion. The guy wanted that in India of today. And has been kicking his top leaders out of the party. He has no dearth of psychophants who surround him and whisper how great he is. This guy has a majestic track record of losing 90 percent of elections. Because as India was modernising it newer national party broke into the scene. Modi who is currently the prime minister of India belongs to this other party. He left no stone unturned at the nepo culture and calling him the IDIOT PRINCE of INC. This did not go down well with the Prince. He really thought he was a royalty and ought to be treated like one. Even after losing 3 national elections to Modi, and over 90 percent state elections to Modi.... This guy continues to head the INC. Because you have to clap and bow if you ever want to rise up in the party. If you don't bow down. Then doesn't matter how big of a leader you are, how many masses love you, you will be shown the door. They will rather lose the election than have their royalty questioned. Capitalism is what changed India. People who were tired of socialism entered workforce In the private industry. Suddenly private establishments were better, the products were more refined, there was a customer service. The pay was better. Had more respect. More accountability. All that took 20 years and Modi reign to change India into what it is today. Shackles of socialism are being broken only now. And still India suffers from those remnants of socialism. Most Indians support Donald Trump not because they like him, but they know exactly the politics of Democrats and it's end results. Because they have seen it in their own country. We have seen it all - The identity politics, DEI, socialism, angst against the Rich. India at one time had 96 percent taxation on businesses, that gave rise to black market cash based economy which India still cannot get rid of. Once you have a black market economy, it becomes a good place to consume money from corruption. Now corruption trails cannot be caught. Systems become oppressive. Criminal political nexus strengthens. And people suffer. It was with Modi that India voted across identity barriers. Only he was able to slightly damage the identity silos that such poltics had made.
Why are they even lying about this? No one even cares who made it the top first anymore nor who was the first in each country because so many people have done it today.
Well, people DO care, even if you don't. In the case of the Chinese, the claim was made as part of the propaganda that all dictatorships spew. It "proved" how inspirational Chairman Mao was by crediiting Chinese climbers with being the first to conquer the northeast ridge. However trivial, even absurd, that is, it is just how megalomania works. The fact that Mallory and Irvine likely DID make it in 1924 and the Chinese did NOT make it in 1960 is part of the ongoing intrigue of Everest. No other mountain has anything like it, so perhaps the "firsts" don't matter as much to most people. But Everest is just different.
hi, and lol I missed your last video. The 1 saying you were never going back to everest.Or is that your next video? Maybe the title of this video should be "facts hurt feelings"?
Seems like they went up just high enough to get a photo, and grab some rocks, and then they called it good lmao. Sad that people would lie about getting to the top of a mountain or not. Seems like such a silly thing to lie about ha.
Ignoring the whole hate on the Chinese thing, that opening shot of Everest is spectacular. Very little snow, so you can really see the colors of the rock bands.
There is a major distinction between the Chinese and the Chinese Communist Party. Chinese literature is full of works and reflect the very ideas I promote throughout this channel. For instance see Dream of a Red Door or The Story of the Stone. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber). If anything, this channel is very pro-Chinese literature and the ideals expressed in those works. Truth becomes fiction when the fiction's true; Real becomes not-real where the unreal's real. When Fiction departs and Truth appears, Truth prevails; Though Not-real was once Real, the Real is never unreal That is a core and fundamental philosophy of this channel.
It's a pretty solid video, the only thing is I can't really tell from the photo of the summit rocks in the picture. Do they have a red tinge, I don't think so but it's not a high def picture.
Is it about believing or is it about facts? You review the Chinese claims and you ask basic questions about human physiology and mountaineering experience. Go climb anywhere in below freezing temperatures without any water for over 30hours, barefoot and gauge for yourself. Now do it in the death zone, without oxygen… anything is possible when you can make it up.
How to tell a lie whenever you have to tell a series of lies to keep your original lie from proving it's always best to use better judgement and keep your boots on and hopefully you can find fame the old fashioned Smith Barney way 🧗🏼
I'll be on several climbs over the next few years and to save weight, I've decided to leave my B3 boots, gloves and down jacket at home and just think about Mao instead.
If you truly studied the Thoughts of Chairman Mao, you would know you do not even need to climb the mountain.
@@michaeltracy2356 In fact, Chairman Mao IS the mountain, so you have to climb Ch... nevermind.
I simply refuse to even pop to the shops without my Chairman Mao bust!
I think you will find that "Xi Jingping thought" is the only way to fly these days and "The Governance of China" is the tome to take along. You may need extra help, though - there are four volumes.
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When I have had kidney stones, thoughts of Chairrman Mao made the pain go away.
Whenever I had family, friends, and neighbors I didn’t really need, Chairman Mao made them go away too!!
“The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain” - Karl Marx
@jackharle1251. ... ima keeping this one handy for when the democratic females in America with their shaved heads come after me.
feel better bro. seriously thats some difficult pain.
I call bs. I've had them and no amount of anything makes the pain go away.
Once I was able to carry my entire car home on my shoulder using nothing but the harnessed thoughts of Mao and some black coffee.
Back coffee? Bourgeois decadence!
"Repeating their propaganda over and over until people believe it..."
Sounds familiar.
works for Trump
My car was out of gas. I had rolled to a stop on a desolate road. Even the fumes were gone. I was trapped.
But then I remembered Chairman Mao.. and the engine started.
If you had already been thinking of Chairman Mao you would not have run out of gas. You will be punished for this blasphemy.
It could be worse. The North Koreans, having heard of the Mao bust, and in a bid not to be outdone, claim Dear Leader King II Sung climbed the Kangshung Face and chiseled a bust of himself while on the summit before ultimately opting to descend by swan diving down to the Kangshung Glacier, where he mitigated the impact by ending the 11,000 foot free-fall with a perfect forward roll, a flawless dismount….oh, and all without oxygen of course.
pure comedy! thanks for the laugh
The beginning of this video is hilarious 😂 Oh dear, it's not looking good for the Chinese 60s 'summit'. Love your videos Michael
At 420 they reached the summit? Wow they were really high! 😊
Hehe heel!! Snicker snort snort!!! Gufaww!
They were peaking, for sure. 😂
peaking duck?
You bring great dishonor to your family
Thoughts of Chairman Mao cured my constipation!
Hmm, have to try that.😂
Ooh I’ll try that thanks!
Diddy treated his by drinking baby oil. He's innocent, he needs a bottle at hand all the time.
The Chinese gov't would never tell a lie. Right?
lol yes! jest like the U.S.gov NEVER LIES!
No government ever lies 😂😂
Yes and there is no such thing as western exceptionalism.
The [insert country of choice] gov't would never tell a lie. Right?
I guess the real difference is the quality of the lies/deceptions; some are just more obvious than others
The Chinese made it to Summit in middle of Night and took George Mallory's Camera that Sandy Irvine had to take pics of his Boss, George.
Then pushed Andrew's body of The path.
This is what I also believed, until I found Michael's channel.
There's just no way. Their story is so untrue, that it's laughable.
Regarding last part of video - that can be clearly seen in Europe in case of chinese cars and I am talking about motoring journalists, not youtubers.
The same was true 30 years ago, when german cars were "hoot" by journalists.
Now, the tables are turned.
Nothing new on the western front.
Love your way of thinking Michael....Our Beloved Country desperately needs more Countrymen like yourself. Thank you !
Takes a lot to admit you might be wrong on something you're so passionate and knowledgeable about. You gained a lot of respect from me. Keep up the good work, your channel is awesome
I have lost 20 kg through the Chairman Mao's method. I only eat his thoughts
That diet has not worked for Kim Jong Un, which leads me to believe he is secretly watching my videos.
Talk about your empty calories!
Any chance the rocks are from the summit, but that the Chinese got them from Mallory’s body or or Irvine’s body?
Chairman Moa, was very clever ; he asked his climbing team to bring back a bunch of "Pet Rocks" from the summit. The climbers must have searched for hours looking for the now "endangered " "Pet Rocks". The summit of Everest is just one of two natural "nesting areas"; it's hard to look for those little devils while climbing a "gigantic rock." . The climbers face another danger on their journey ; the"Wild Yeti ". It is widely reported they live all over Everest , and are known to surprise attack on camp sites and climbers at any time night or day. It is a miracle Moa's" team made it back alive and unscathed.
I've never been to the Himalaya, nevertheless I've summited Everest three times via the power of the thoughts of Chairman Mao.
I'm sick and tired of people bringing up this topic. Listen, my dad was camping on the summit, just chilling, around the time the Chinese said they summited. He said he never saw anyone. Chinese summit claim 100% disproven, so let's move on to more important topics, like how we can channel Chairman Mao's energy to finally end world hunger.
43 hours in labor and a c-section with no anesthetic needed, thoughts of chairman Mao kept the pain away! Also no frostbite to report!
First baby born on the summit?
@michaeltracy2356 It is a wonder what those Mao thoughts can achieve!
@michaeltracy2356 One of the few yet unachieved Everest records, first woman to give birth on the summit. I enjoy your videos and have learned a lot.
A c-section with no anesthetic; painless. Your thoughts of Moa "did you a solid" . . You received a miracle straight from Chairman Moa. If you want another miracle please leave your cash donation of $100.00 at the hospital's exit. A doorman will be there to collect the donation.
@@michaeltracy2356Omgosh, don't give people ideas! 😂 There are so many firsts already that we're down to Yeti crap like "first half-Irish/half-German woman between the ages of 45-51, from the state of Rhode Island, married to a New Yorker, & missing three toes to reach the summit."
Thoughts of Chairman Mao have eliminated every negative thought or event in my life. I have no negative memories of anything. Someone told me my ex-wife was an awful person. I don't even remember her.
That other channel seems to be big fan of the idea a member of Chinese team went barefoot to the summit. Pretty wild stuff 😵💫
@@kamakaziozzie3038 which one?
Wim Hoff submitted Everest wearing only a jock strap.
Perhaps the thoughts of Mao is his secret.
@@bananek87 I shouldn’t have said “that other one” as there are several. I would rather not call the channel out by name but if you look you will find quickly.
Thats completely insane. They would lose toes, and maybe their whole foot
Sometime, it would be very interesting if you created a a piece about closed-circuit oxygen systems on Everest. Bourdillon and Evans apparently came very close to beating Hillary and Tenzing using closed-end apparatuses in 1953 and apparently their use was contemplated as early as 1938, but I've never heard of anyone using closed-end equipment since 1953. I'm surprised that no one has at least attempted this in all the years since. Your videos have become my favorite source for intelligent discussion of Everest related topics, so if sometime you wanted to tackle an interesting subject that no one else seems to be interesting in, I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts on this.
Lowkey was excited to see this!! Love the prosctive research
Small but interesting detail I remembered and found again today. Seven years ago, Jake Norton posted a video of himself rummaging through the 1960 high camp for the Chinese at roughly 28,000ft.
1:33 into the video, he shows some items on the ground and amongst the items is a small rock hammer and a carabiner. He pays little attention to the hammer at the time. However, I think it would’ve been a cool artifact to have (especially since he seems so keen on collecting items from the mountain). Secondly, I can’t recall many climbers talking about carabiners on Everest? Do you know if that was possibly used to tie onto a rope on the way up and down? Or perhaps they used them at the second step somehow?
Also he found an O2 bottle with “gas” in it still. Wonder why the heroes left that behind, especially after running out on the victorious climb?
As a dedicated Maoist who was on The Long March with Dear Leader I can confirm absolutely that thoughts of his person are all that is required to perform miracles and superhuman feats of all kinds. See in the dark? Not a problem, just think of the vision of Dear Leader's eyes and you will see fine! Unable to breathe because there is no oxygen? Simply recite his most powerful thoughts and words and your lungs will fill with fresh warm spring air as if you were right at sea level. Of course these minor obstacles on the way to the summit were easily overcome by those who think of his Most Dear Person. /s
Great video and insights - especially about social media grooming. Please keep them coming!
The Chinese are so full of excrement. (On this issue)
I was too, until thoughts of Chairman Mao cured my constipation.
@@LoreTunderinthis comment deserves massive up votes 😂😂😂
I think it is unlikely they reached the third step. Most likely they climbed the second step and being already late in the day - without oxygen, water, and light for a no moon night- they turned around.
The Chinese say it took 3 hours to climb the second step alone. Likely not on top before 3PM Pekin time.
They did claim to find some oxygen bottles, so if they did, likely that would have been around the Third Step.
Malory and Irvine very likely may have been the First to Summit with Oxygen. The Chinese were the First to Summit with Propaganda. I hope this clears things up. 🏔️
@@michaeltracy2356 another big problem is the "dawn" photos. Analysis showed they were taken later in the day. So if they were coming down from the summit and there was light for a couple hours already it begs the question why didn't they take the picture before, maybe in the false summit. With the climbers.
@@michaeltracy2356 how would they find oxygen bottles near the the third step, or am I misreading this?
Michael, are you an attorney? If not, you should be, as you are very gifted in presenting evidence and arguments. I look forward to every new video.
I was born in Poland - a former communist country. In our youth we were also fed propaganda. The truth was not important then. The opinion of the party was important. Knowing the communist mentality, I do not believe that the Chinese reached the summit in 1960. If they reached the summit in 1960, why did they organize another big expedition in 1975?
Why does anyone climb it more than once?
@@sparkypeps1 It was probably the greatest expedition in history. Why didn't they organize such events later? Maybe because they finally achieved their goal?
Thank you Michael for providing rock solid evidence that the 1960 climb to the summit rises to the level of a bust.
I need a new video, Mr. Tracey! I've watched them all at least twice now 😂 love this channel
Thanks for your videos. And the comments are *chefs kiss*.
I was wrong. It is even worse than I thought!
“They were guided by the light of Chairman Mao.“ 🤭
Pretty generous take at the end. I'm too jaded I guess. Good video as always.
This is amazing! When my gout flares up thoughts of our Glorious Chairman Mao make it feel so much better
Excellent drinking game.... "Chairman Mao".... take a shot!
Damn the thought of failing and going back to mao having fallen just short was very powerful in aiding these climbers up insane obstacles.
It’s unclear if that was truly the case. There’s no reason to believe they knew this would be their last attempt. It appears that, upon seeing their cooker had been blown out of high camp, their goal was simply to fix the rope up the Second Step and conduct a brief reconnaissance above it. They would then return and leave the actual summit push to others-other climbers were available. If this had been a true summit attempt, support climbers would have come up to replace the cooker and bring them water. They could have sent someone down to Camp 6 to retrieve the cooker, brought it up to melt snow in Camp 7, and prepared accordingly. The fact that this wasn’t done strongly suggests there was no intention to summit.
It seems that the decision to claim a "summit" was made only after they returned to North Col, and I am skeptical of their story about it taking so many days to return to North Col.
Their actions are also inconsistent with a genuine summit plan. It would make no sense to send four people to the summit with such limited oxygen. A more sensible approach would have been for two climbers to fix the rope on the Second Step, then leave all the remaining oxygen for the final two. The two support climbers could have returned to high camp, brought up additional oxygen, and cached it at the Second Step for use on the descent.
Most likely, the incentive to summit was a significant factor, and they may have devised a plan to achieve it. However, that plan was never executed for whatever reason, and they ultimately decided to rely on propaganda rather than photographs.
@@michaeltracy2356 Typos: "what they was seeing", "there were other climbs available.", "had someone descent to", "so many dats to return", "decided to us propaganda". Easy to fix at three dots, then I will remove my comment.
Another possibility is that they did make it to the summit but they lied about having no water, no oxygen, camping out overnight etc. It seems illogical to lie about summitting and then add other lies that make the story even less likely.
That is exactly what John Hunt said , in the documentary referenced in this video
ruclips.net/video/jxpUCUnooYk/видео.html @ 21:13
@@ty56ty1 Thanks! Will check it out.
First, they would have had to have lied about their oxygen systems capabilities and actually had a system that allowed them have 36 hours of oxygen, or If they lied about it being night and they lied about not having photos too, I guess they could have made the summit. But with oxygen and water, they still have the problem of getting to summit at night and returning with absolutely no one seeing them or photographing them from below. Also, they would have had to pick up rocks from the Thrombolite layer and lie about them being from the summit.
In any case, the Chinese also claim to have reached the summit in 1969 by three solo climbers -- they each climbed separately, without oxygen. And for some reason, people are not pushing this equally ridiculous claim.
@@michaeltracy2356 I don't think the actual climbers wrote the reports , it was more likely a party official , who then went on to have a career in journalism 😊
Just picked up the Audible of that book. Sounds like it speaks to a lot of what's going on, period, on social media.
(When I was opening YT today, I was hoping to see a video by you. Thanks.)
I can write a convincing and beautiful description of my climb of mount Everest in 1951, 13 years before I was born, that will be more convincing than the chinese description, specially with the data we have today and AI. On that opportunity, I also had the chance to fix Ayrton Senna's helmet there. And, to prove it, I'll show you some negatives (not only prints) and rocks. My mother in law is a gemologist and I'm quite convinced that she can help me present some stones from the Everest summit "made in Brazil". You won't believe what is being done with gems nowadays. It'll take some time but evidences will be "rock solid"...
Hillary and Norgay registered everything. The chinese wrote a book.
Wasn't it the thoughts of Chairman Mao who helped the Egyptians build the pyramids with their basic technology?, or did I read it wrong?
TY Michael, another well thought out & enjoyable video. 🙏🙏
Man, you can plainly see how terrified these guys were of their government. They were there to see it all go down, too.
The power of Mao compels you. The power of Mao compels you. The power of Mao compels you.
The one startling fact can not be overcome by the Chinese: Hilary and Tensing have summit photos from 1953. So how come the chinese TEAM have no summit photos from 1960? Did the chinese not invent photography before then? 🤔😂
That's because (if you believe them)they reached the top in the Early hours of the Morning on a Moonless night.
@@davidspence5567 and flash photography didn’t exist then?
@@lulabellegnostic8402 Perhaps in 1960 the Chinese did not have the resources to equip the Everest climbers with small cameras with flash bulbs or flash cubes. While small cameras w/flash were available in western markets at the time, maybe they just couldn't obtain them or the flashbulbs. The flashbulbs were fragile one- or four-use disposable items. (Now wondering whether any discarded ones have ever been found way up there.) Flash cubes ('Magicubes') became available around 1960, so again, maybe the Chinese just couldn't get their hands on some. (These were roughly 1 inch plastic cubes containing 4 small flash bulbs. On the bottom were prongs that fit onto the top of small snapshot cameras. When you took a picture, the cube flashed then rotated so the next bulb was ready for your next shot. Once all 4 flashes from the Magicube were used, you just threw it away.)
When I am cold and tired I just bask in the wisdom of Chairman Mau.
Climber Andy Henderson in 1984 was near the summit of Everest when he had trouble with a crampon. He had to take his gloves off to fix it and his hands were instantly frost bitten. He ended up losing all his fingers on one hand and part of a thumb so i know those Chinese couldn't have done the handstand thing barefoot or just socks.
And Ed Webster lost many of his fingers climbing up the standard SE ridge - b/c he took off his gloves a few time to take early morning photos - he was a photographer - I (as a photographer) would likely have done the same thing despite the below freezing temp and NO supp O2. And they were barely hydrated. Described in detail in Webster's book "Snow in the Kingdom" (2000) where he along with three others pioneered a utterly daring climb up the Kangshung Face (in 1988) to reach the South Col and then take the standard southeast ridge to the summit (only Stephen Venables reach the summit - just barely - first Brit to reach summit (and return alive) w/o supp O2). PS: I'd NEVER climb Everest under any conditions - don't need to test myself that way, thank you.
I'm wrong too. Over the past week or so I've started to come around to the idea the Chinese probably are trying to systematically deny M&I summiting.
I agree with your analysis.
The facts VS the story do not match.
They are full of crap.
I've just watched a video from 3 years ago (which mentioned you by name and your theory of the route Mallory and Irvine took).
They had a photo of the supposed 3 Chinese climbers, and while hoping not to diss them personally, they didn't look Chinese, and if their bones were as terrible as their teeth, I don't know how they even managed to get anywhere near the summit. It might merely be a mislabeling of a photo.
But there was somerhing very interesting - photos of Mallory smoking cigars and pipies. It has changed my view on why he chose Irvine and that I think they did not summit. Even if you don't inhale, those toxins dilute with your saliva and drip down your throat.
Just ask my sister, with esophageal cancer at a relatively young age, with calcified arteries, who was otherwise fit and healthy. The last person we thought would ever get cancer.
Mallory was 37, so not exactly a youngster, without all the modcons of today's climbing gear and clothes. He knew he would not make it without oxygen, hence his choice of the novice Irvine, being the most experienced with the oxygen system. He had a great drive as he knew this was most likely going to be his last chance, and may have taken unnecessary risks.
There was a non flattering quote by a relative in that video too. He was also blamed for the dearh of 7 Sherpas due to a misjudgment 2 years previously I think it said. How true this all is, I dont know. But it certainly threw a different perspective on the continuing mystery, and wonder if it will ever be solved in our lifetimes or be a mystery of the ages.
These are all great reason that prove that Mallory died. However, there is not a real mystery about whether he survived or not. What people are interested in is whether he and Irvine reached the summit prior to their death. That Mallory was reckless and caused the deaths of 7 Sherpa in 1922 does indicate he has a reckless decision making process that caused him to put reaching the summit above safety in 1922. Whether he did the same thing in 1924 seems pretty clear -- because he and Irvine died.
So, you should look at 1922 and see what you can learn about 1924. Given the choice of turning around in 1922 when conditions were dangerous and pressing on, Mallory chose to press on. Now, you argue that in 1924, Mallory didn't reach the summit. That means that given the choice of pushing on into dangerous conditions or turning around, he chose to turn around (given that he died on the descent). So, then why did he die? He just got extremely unlucky?
Numerous Sherpa smoke -- some even while climbing the Mountain. They reach the summit just fine.
Michael, is the discord still active? Could you post a current link? The only ones we can find are expired. Thanks.
Using the thoughts of Mao i levitated to the summit and returned unseen. I even seen Irvine, the sleeping bag, three ice axes, and 2 cameras. Fortunately i studied Mao that hard i was able to smuggle them in my literal bum bag and hide them off the mountain forever. 🛐
You did all that and didn't see a Yeti? Not believable.
I think you have compiled and presented the evidence which proves your conclusion, which I agree with. Let me ask some question: How long were the three summiters in the "death zone" during the expedition. How long did they climb without oxygen? What is their previous climbing experience and how many summits how they reached? And what is the highest they ever climbed before. I'd say we should credit Hornbein and Unsoeld for being the first to climb the north side of Everest. It was possibly the greatest climb in the history of the mountain, or very close to it.
Creating hundreds of fake accounts to superchat Michael Tracey's channel towards 100% cute cats doing silly things content
The discord server is already overrun with cat pictures.
Michael thanks
I have a question, if the chinnese were at 2nd step & did some hammering job, shouldnt there be evidence for same ?
Yes, that is why the spikes were found in place in 1975 and I was pretty sure I saw one in 2013 when I climbed it -- though I didn't really take the time to analyze it.
Just ordered that book on the library app.
Read it. Important stuff. Recommended.
Hi Michael, sorry to bother you but ive just been watching 'The Epic of Everest' Captain Noel/outer sound project and approx 9 minutes in there is a few seconds of film footage of Mallory and Irvine, Mallory has a camera in his hand and the case is over his shoulder, any idea if its Mallorys? and if yes, was it returned to his family and any ideas what make?, it looks like a kodak pocket B but I'm no expert. Thanks.
It is Mallory's. Ruth asked that it be returned to her, but it is not clear if it was. It is not a VPK -- it is much larger. I have both the VPK and a model the same size as in that photo -- the one in the photo is much larger. I covered that particular piece in Epic of Everest in one of the camera videos. I'm in the process of redoing and consolidating all the information, so at some point, there will be a single "camera" video that covers all the important stuff relating to the cameras.
@michaeltracy2356 Thank you, I look forward to seeing that, quite an important detail that, if it was returned or not, and if the film in the camera Mallory was carrying was ever developed, have we seen any of the photos? So why did he supposedly borrowed Somerville's if he had his own, was there much of a weight diff in the camera Mallory had with him? Cheers again.
Can´t be a B model. "The VPK Model B was introduced in 1925 and sold until 1934" Unless Mallory had some preproduction model.
Just an semi-unrelated technical question, what is the process for determining the height that rock samples were taken from (apart from invoking the spirit of Chairman Mao and asking him, of course)?
I discuss the issue with fossilized fecal pellets here: ruclips.net/video/cWujpV2vvkM/видео.html
@ thanks
Question: the”official” image of the summit rocks that you include in the vid… was the source of that image made before 1975? And if not, is there any visual record of them that can be dated to before 1975? Because cynical ol’ me can’t help but think it would’ve been easy for the ‘75 expedition to have got summit rocks, and then some nefarious soul could have placed the. in the archives and claimed that they were the 1960 rocks.
I do not know when that was taken, but a microscopic cross section of one of the rocks was published in a book prior to 1975.
@@michaeltracy2356 Interesting. That cross-section (and any associated material from that study) might be the only reliable evidence of the rocks’ true provenance, then! Anything later could be from summit rocks gathered in later years.
Could it be possible that the Chinese did reach the summit and found it too difficult to pry up summit rocks and simply pick up the first loose/easy rocks they found on the way down?
Hillary had no problem pick up summit rocks. Jon Krakauer had no problem picking up summit rocks. Anatoli Boukreev had no problem picking up summit rocks.
@michaeltracy2356 okie thank you 😊
Most ppl don't talk about it so I had no idea how hard or easy it is so thank you for answering 😊
Marvellous. Must admit to loving Daniel Lee's film - great fun and one can't help but wonder if all the superhero stunts in the greatly entertaining movie were perhaps a subversive commentary...
Michael, yes the rocks were originally red-tinged, and when they were exposed to the bust of Beloved Chairman Mao, the brilliance of His image bleached the nine rocks - ta da!
I just finished reading Robert Edwards book on Mallory, Irvine, and Everest.
If only they had the thoughts of Chairman Mao on the descent...
The summit rocks in the picture appear to be too light to be the same rock type as on the summit, but the picture in itself is hardly conclusive. Identifying rocks from just a picture is usually very fishy, and the picture has a low resolution. Do you know if those rocks can be examined? Are they in a museum?
According to this video, the rocks in question are in a museum in Lhasa, Tibet. The Chinese will not allow scientific examination of them.
Anyone who knew what to look for could find float samples matching the stratigraphy of summit rocks at EBC (both sides). With some deft rock hammer work, you could make 9 samples that roughly matched the 1960 samples. Might be a quick buck for someone who has CCP contacts...
If the Chinese supporting social media via superchat for favourable content is true, I'm not sure how unwilling these content creators are. Keep an eye out for my upcoming "The Chinese are most excellent at everything" media output.
I am from India. Have lived in socialist era of India. You could not get any position, any promotion, any thing done without brown nosing yourself. You had to lick your superiors butt obnoxiously. And you might think those superiors would consider it flattery and scorn this. But no. They would actively try to bring anybody who flattered and provided the with gifts up. You could shove your merit up yours. They did not care. Because they themselves had risen doing that and expected it naturally from you.
Secondly if you belonged to an organisation or a party then the head of that party or organisation was nothing short of second coming of christ. You HAD TO DEITIFY him or her. I mean it was absolutely required of you. Critical thinking, dissenting was absolutely forbidden.
So what the Chinese wrote is not at all surprising to me. Because India was exactly that kind of a society.
Infact even today the oldest political party (INC) of India suffers from the same. The head of the Poltical party is nepo baby.... Whose family had been head of the party for 5 generation. You can absolutely not criticise them. You have to show absolute devotion. The guy wanted that in India of today. And has been kicking his top leaders out of the party. He has no dearth of psychophants who surround him and whisper how great he is. This guy has a majestic track record of losing 90 percent of elections. Because as India was modernising it newer national party broke into the scene. Modi who is currently the prime minister of India belongs to this other party. He left no stone unturned at the nepo culture and calling him the IDIOT PRINCE of INC. This did not go down well with the Prince. He really thought he was a royalty and ought to be treated like one. Even after losing 3 national elections to Modi, and over 90 percent state elections to Modi.... This guy continues to head the INC. Because you have to clap and bow if you ever want to rise up in the party. If you don't bow down. Then doesn't matter how big of a leader you are, how many masses love you, you will be shown the door. They will rather lose the election than have their royalty questioned.
Capitalism is what changed India. People who were tired of socialism entered workforce In the private industry. Suddenly private establishments were better, the products were more refined, there was a customer service. The pay was better. Had more respect. More accountability. All that took 20 years and Modi reign to change India into what it is today. Shackles of socialism are being broken only now. And still India suffers from those remnants of socialism.
Most Indians support Donald Trump not because they like him, but they know exactly the politics of Democrats and it's end results. Because they have seen it in their own country. We have seen it all - The identity politics, DEI, socialism, angst against the Rich. India at one time had 96 percent taxation on businesses, that gave rise to black market cash based economy which India still cannot get rid of. Once you have a black market economy, it becomes a good place to consume money from corruption. Now corruption trails cannot be caught. Systems become oppressive. Criminal political nexus strengthens. And people suffer.
It was with Modi that India voted across identity barriers. Only he was able to slightly damage the identity silos that such poltics had made.
Why are they even lying about this? No one even cares who made it the top first anymore nor who was the first in each country because so many people have done it today.
Well, people DO care, even if you don't. In the case of the Chinese, the claim was made as part of the propaganda that all dictatorships spew. It "proved" how inspirational Chairman Mao was by crediiting Chinese climbers with being the first to conquer the northeast ridge. However trivial, even absurd, that is, it is just how megalomania works.
The fact that Mallory and Irvine likely DID make it in 1924 and the Chinese did NOT make it in 1960 is part of the ongoing intrigue of Everest. No other mountain has anything like it, so perhaps the "firsts" don't matter as much to most people. But Everest is just different.
They lie because people care.
Probably a stupid Question and yes even if possible it would not explain all the other problems but couldnt they have eaten snow ?
That. would rapidly give them hypothermia. The amount of snow you would have to eat to solve the dehydration problem would be quite a bit.
10:35 Are the Chinese saying they radiocarbon date rocks? Don't you need organic material for radiocarbon dating?
hi, and lol I missed your last video. The 1 saying you were never going back to everest.Or is that your next video? Maybe the title of this video should be "facts hurt feelings"?
10:46 You can't radiocarbon date a rock!
I should not have stated "carbon." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating.
I hope you dont try to go back and climb on the north side of the mountain. If you step foot in Tibet you are going to be vanished. Not worth it.
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1:27 420 bro 🤙
No way 😮. You being wrong is me losing my religion.
To me, his willingness to publicly admit his error and correct it reinforces my view of Tracey being a person of integrity.
Seems like they went up just high enough to get a photo, and grab some rocks, and then they called it good lmao.
Sad that people would lie about getting to the top of a mountain or not. Seems like such a silly thing to lie about ha.
OMG, Hahahaha, it is almost clickbait. Funny.
I thought so too. Just wonderful.
Ignoring the whole hate on the Chinese thing, that opening shot of Everest is spectacular. Very little snow, so you can really see the colors of the rock bands.
There is a major distinction between the Chinese and the Chinese Communist Party. Chinese literature is full of works and reflect the very ideas I promote throughout this channel. For instance see Dream of a Red Door or The Story of the Stone. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber). If anything, this channel is very pro-Chinese literature and the ideals expressed in those works.
Truth becomes fiction when the fiction's true;
Real becomes not-real where the unreal's real.
When Fiction departs and Truth appears, Truth prevails;
Though Not-real was once Real, the Real is never unreal
That is a core and fundamental philosophy of this channel.
Sorry, I don't believe any of it. Love the videos always.
Why do they keep up with the lie? Crazy 😝
“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” Adolph Hitler
I'm having a hard time believing anything about this video.
It's a pretty solid video, the only thing is I can't really tell from the photo of the summit rocks in the picture. Do they have a red tinge, I don't think so but it's not a high def picture.
Is it about believing or is it about facts? You review the Chinese claims and you ask basic questions about human physiology and mountaineering experience. Go climb anywhere in below freezing temperatures without any water for over 30hours, barefoot and gauge for yourself. Now do it in the death zone, without oxygen… anything is possible when you can make it up.
I accuse you of being a zero-content, very recent join, troll-farm jingoe. With no supporting evidence, naturally 和平兄弟
How to tell a lie whenever you have to tell a series of lies to keep your original lie from proving it's always best to use better judgement and keep your boots on and hopefully you can find fame the old fashioned Smith Barney way 🧗🏼