You ain't even covered the story accurately, arsenal wanted to keep him for another season and he didn't want to stay went on strike and didn't go on preseason to force a move.
his. knees were shot he wasn't making important tackles anymore his speed had gone down considerably.the pace of the Premiership was to much for him so he took the decision to go down a notch to a much slower league..the fact he scored a lot of important goals for us gets forgotten.. I for one would like to thank him for every thing he done for us ..and a happy retirement..at your best you was phenomenal loved watching you you will always be a GOONER
the new generation of fans are shortsighted honestly. He didn't ruin any legacy. He literally carried Arsenal for a while being their best CB if not the best CB in the EPL for a while. He forced a move out because he didn't wanted to play for Emery and the new Arsenal Board.
Exactly. I didn't begrudge him leaving after nearly 10 years and I didn't give a shit about that video he did when he signed for Bordeaux. Don't understand why so many morons were triggered by it
@@o0musique0o You throw your shirt to the ground after every game, when it goes to the laundry. It isn't a flag FFS. When he was wearing the shirt, he gave 100%, that is all that counts.
a bit of both I think... It was stupid by Koscielny... but a arsenal fans should have known he didn't mean anything by it... it's similar to the Aubameyang issue...
He ruined his legacy because he went on strike, refused to train, so that he could push through his move. Honestly i still like him, just think he should have been more professional, when you have a contract respect it.
@@denybagusputra I'd understand van Persie he went to man utd when we needed him fabregas went back to barca that's fair play but even if he went to chelsea it was who's problém that they didn't want him at arsenal .
Koscielny for me will always be one of the brighter stars during dark times for the club, never understood why he gets so much hate from the same fans that will call Aubamayeng a legend
All we need to realize that he needed to move on, so did we. We see Arsenal now, we're just fine. No need to judge him so badly, we have to thank to Koscielny after all the years he had been in Arsenal.
I remember a Barcelona game he single person stopped Messi the whole game. He's a beast! And he didn't throw Arsenal shirt on floor, and we already ready for him to leave that time.
He ruined nothing. He was one of the most solid dependable defenders we had for over a decade. Arsenal struggled defensively at times for sure, but when healthy he was the glue that kept us in many a match!
Ma Doug he went on strike to force a move from us, then he goes and pulls this stunt. At least respect club that stood with you through thick and thin. He ruined it
That’s not even accurate. He BECAME a solid defender, but for his first two years at the club he was hopeless! I remember wanting him out in the first two seasons along with many other Arsenal fans. He cost us seven games in that second season through mistimed tackles, bad runs and lack of knowledge of the game. He was a liability and was lucky to be picked at the end of that second season. He did however turn it around and proved me wrong, by becoming our captain and a rock at the back. He also however, did ruin his legacy with his antics to leave and that stupid stunt with the shirt was disgusting and a stupid thing to do.
I think what he did with the shirt thing was disrespectful given that he left in not so good circumstances. He was the best defender Arsenal had for a long time and would easily have become a club legend if his exit was better. Most Arsenal fans still respect him though.
I think the main issue with this was the way he left the club. If he had left amicably, maybe like Xhaka did, this announcement wouldn’t have been a big deal to a lot of people.
I believe he had a gentleman's agreement that he could leave before the end of his contract. He agreed to stay a bit longer due to defensive injuries but Arsenal's defensive plight did not get any better when the deferred leaving date came up, and they wanted him to fulfil the rest of his contract term. His heart was set on returning to his hometown club in France to finish his playing days and stuck to his guns with this antic. The club let him go, but unfortunately, an icon of the club disappeared acrimoniously out the side door without the plaudits he would normally have received for his services.
He has a chance to be an arsenal hero (not quite a legend) but his act make him will be remembered as a mere former player not a club legend or even a Hero. how ironic
I really didn't understand the outrage for this. It's a pretty normal announcement video and I'm pretty sure he didn't mean any disrespect to Arsenal. He was an excellent servant for Arsenal and our best defender by far during many years. How can you hate him?
So misleading. That summer Bordeaux announced all their signings where the players would wear their old team shirt. Also, he wasn’t at Arsenal for 10+ seasons. Also, he literally shortened his career having played thru injury for us which ended his World Cup dream. He literally just wanted to go back to France.
The story is not entirely accurate. Arsenal did not want to sell Koscielny whatsoever. Koscielny was Arsenal main CB & captain, he still had his pace & was playing well prior to Europa final. He however was the one who wanted a move away, Arsenal denied a move telling him to join Preseason squad. He then tried force a move by refusing to go on tour, that led to him being disciplined, kept at home and sold. Arsenal had no plans to sell the club captain, the breakup was messy. He then did that Bordeaux video to make things even worse. Remember Koscielny last ever game was the Europa League final where he put up a 2nd half disasterclass, embarassing performance. Should have been sold for that alone, instead Arsenal willing to still have him despite being older. After his situation Arsenal then immediately signed Saliba for 27m as Koscielny long term replacement (loaned back) and then signed David Luiz short term for 8m. Luiz helped Arsenal win FA Cup & Saliba prior to injury almost helped Arsenal win PL. So his sale worked out well for Arsenal, while his legacy was destroyed beyond repair.
I don't know about adding ruining legacy and it being beyond repair. It might be for the new generation of fans who are short sighted. He literally was Arsenals best CB for a decade and was EPLS best CB for a while. he was touted by many EPL pundits and players as a world class CB. Real Madrid and Bayern wanted him consistently and he still chose to stay with Arsenal. He decided to move on because he didn't want to play for Emery and the new board and he was 34 I believe. How did he ruin his legacy lol if anything you and most fans are sensationalizing this departure and shirt reveal like it's a sin lol
It’s not when you take into consideration the fact that Arsenal wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave so bad that he went on strike and didn’t show up for training to force the move.
Great defender for us. Had a hilariously bad debut for us - that I remember 😂. Formed a solid partnership with Mertesacker too. But he was a bit of a d*ck for the manner in which he left the club. It left a lot of people shocked and disappointed. That aside, he'll be remembered for years to come.
Every single humiliating loss Arsenal had from 2011 until Wenger left (and there where a lot !) Koscielny played in ALL of them. He was the least shit of a terrible bunch of defenders and that’s it. He also had the dubious accolade of “most improved defender” that basically means that he was fucking crap but now he’s a bit better. That isn’t an accolade I would be proud of. Koscielny’s career was lame and he was an awful defender.
Fantastic Player for us. Injured to much at crucial points in seasons tho. Will always be a club great (not legend, great). How he left was shameful, bascially going on strike, and forcing a move and that video was just pathetic. But its been what? 4 years since? I've gotten over it. But at the time. Not the way you leave a club
Let's also not forget that his announcement video would have been choreographed (cringe) by Bordeaux so he was just doing as he was told. Back then you didn't get as many kids whining over something like that
At least he didn’t stay, draw a huge salary and says he’s a cool captain? Just like auba, their legacies were never ruined, it’s just mostly normal for players to leave their clubs at a below than desirable situation. How often are break ups beautifully done?
You ain't even covered the story accurately, arsenal wanted to keep him for another season and he didn't want to stay went on strike and didn't go on preseason to force a move.
At least someone has a brain
lol and his team got relegated. lol
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@@silas232003 Is it??? Wow m8
his. knees were shot he wasn't making important tackles anymore his speed had gone down considerably.the pace of the Premiership was to much for him so he took the decision to go down a notch to a much slower league..the fact he scored a lot of important goals for us gets forgotten.. I for one would like to thank him for every thing he done for us ..and a happy retirement..at your best you was phenomenal loved watching you you will always be a GOONER
He deserves nothing but respect. Gave his all to the club when he was here
Are u a weak fence?
@@BrandonRobinson-zz8zfhe’s a certified lap panel 😂
the new generation of fans are shortsighted honestly. He didn't ruin any legacy. He literally carried Arsenal for a while being their best CB if not the best CB in the EPL for a while. He forced a move out because he didn't wanted to play for Emery and the new Arsenal Board.
Yeah but instead of saying that and thanking the fans he posted the video where he threw the shirt on the ground, was stupid from him
show me where it hits the ground. I'll wait
@@Gunner1302 stfu you’re trynna be smart but he’s not put it anywhere other than the ground mate
@@Gunner1302So where did the shirt go then, in the air ????
Was never the best CB in the league
No hate for him..he gave absolutely everything while on arsenal shirt..he deserves respect
Exactly. I didn't begrudge him leaving after nearly 10 years and I didn't give a shit about that video he did when he signed for Bordeaux. Don't understand why so many morons were triggered by it
I absolutely love Koscielny and I still have fun memories of him. Let just say he was ill-advised, all I can say is Arsenal fans should forgive him..
Respect? He didn't show respect to the shirt by throwing it onto the ground....
@@o0musique0ono single video shows it hit the ground. Link one over here so we know what you're talking about
@@o0musique0o You throw your shirt to the ground after every game, when it goes to the laundry. It isn't a flag FFS.
When he was wearing the shirt, he gave 100%, that is all that counts.
He deserves respect ... He was the only good defender I loved
cant hate him. He was fantastic and rejected Barca at one point
Idk what you mean. He was amazing for us. We love him
He wasn't amazing. he was great some games but awful disaster at others.
No we don’t.
@@danielebowman he was our best defender for years but okay
@@Hydee321 you don’t
@@omara5079That’s because the rest of them were shit, in other words he was the least crap defender.
Was our best defender we had for years and gave everything
a bit of both I think... It was stupid by Koscielny... but a arsenal fans should have known he didn't mean anything by it... it's similar to the Aubameyang issue...
He obviously did. What kind of player will make this video. He knew what he was doing
He ruined his legacy because he went on strike, refused to train, so that he could push through his move.
Honestly i still like him, just think he should have been more professional, when you have a contract respect it.
@@conormurphy3657 like how can you base that? you don't even know him. He literally played for the club for a decade lol
He meant every bit of it!! That’s why he did it!! He let himself down. That’s why xhaka will be welcomed back at Arsenal unlike him!!
@@KO-nb3dnmany players did that to come to Arsenal tho. 😂
Still a guy who bled for Arsenal. Love him
I never got the outrage over this, we got his best years out of him and it was time to move on. I’ll always love Lolo.
Can’t be an Arsenal fan if you hate Laurent
He was a shit defender. He was the least shit of a bad bunch, that doesn’t make him good.
And Van persie or fabregas? lol
@@denybagusputra I mean Van Persie is a scumbag, Cesc gave Arsenal his all and wanted to return.
@@denybagusputra I'd understand van Persie he went to man utd when we needed him fabregas went back to barca that's fair play but even if he went to chelsea it was who's problém that they didn't want him at arsenal .
Don't hate him, he just lost my respect when he threw his shirt onto the ground
Lovely guy I still have so much respect for him.
What a beast of a player he was ❤
I love you Laurent
Atleast he didn't gone to the rivals like the l the likes of Vanpersie ,sagna and nasri
This guy is the main reason, and ozil I begin a arsenal fan. He was a class A defender
No one cared. He's a legend for the club
Arsenal legends in my eyes
Guy was a beast winning all them premiership titles
Stupidity from Koscielny
Koscielny for me will always be one of the brighter stars during dark times for the club, never understood why he gets so much hate from the same fans that will call Aubamayeng a legend
All we need to realize that he needed to move on, so did we. We see Arsenal now, we're just fine. No need to judge him so badly, we have to thank to Koscielny after all the years he had been in Arsenal.
He meant no disrespect he always gave 100%,..i loved him at Arsenal and i eidh him the best at his new club WE ARE ARSENAL ❤
The shirt reveal had nothing to do with it - it was all about the way he disrespected the club to force a move.
I hate when people speak without the facts....this man is a legend
Im an Arsenal fan since 98 when I was 10 years old honestly I dont know this guy for real ........
After he had a bad head injury he was never the same. The medical team need to get onto these head injuries, seriously.
Hats off to our legend
Great servant and player for us so no hard feelings
he used to be my best CB, e had d confidence and drive. very solid at d back
Still arsenal legend. Its not his fault. He loves arsenal thats clear
Nothing you say would.make me hate him he is a Legend
He could have been remembered so fondly at Arsenal, but clear stupidity from Kos now people wouldnt give him a second look in London
Arsenal diehard fan, we still love that geeza
He's always welcomed back.home‼️
I remember the window we were linked with him then got him - he was decent but so was Vermaelen - we just needed more
Injuries to vermaelen and Lolo killed their form
I remember a Barcelona game he single person stopped Messi the whole game. He's a beast! And he didn't throw Arsenal shirt on floor, and we already ready for him to leave that time.
He ruined nothing. He was one of the most solid dependable defenders we had for over a decade. Arsenal struggled defensively at times for sure, but when healthy he was the glue that kept us in many a match!
Ma Doug he went on strike to force a move from us, then he goes and pulls this stunt. At least respect club that stood with you through thick and thin. He ruined it
That’s not even accurate. He BECAME a solid defender, but for his first two years at the club he was hopeless! I remember wanting him out in the first two seasons along with many other Arsenal fans. He cost us seven games in that second season through mistimed tackles, bad runs and lack of knowledge of the game. He was a liability and was lucky to be picked at the end of that second season. He did however turn it around and proved me wrong, by becoming our captain and a rock at the back. He also however, did ruin his legacy with his antics to leave and that stupid stunt with the shirt was disgusting and a stupid thing to do.
@@LeeBillinghamTabanaArtnope. He didn't. Don't be such a bitch.
I think what he did with the shirt thing was disrespectful given that he left in not so good circumstances. He was the best defender Arsenal had for a long time and would easily have become a club legend if his exit was better. Most Arsenal fans still respect him though.
Koscielny was a true Arsenal legend...he left his heart on that field... wanted to return to France after devastating Achilles injury... respect...
It was during the toxic rise of AFTV! 😮😢
You are right, Aftv is the reason Arsenal haven't won any major trophy since 2003/04
Imo if you serve a team like he did for so many years, you can do what you like with the shirt ❤️ LK
Huge love for Laurent ❤
I think the main issue with this was the way he left the club. If he had left amicably, maybe like Xhaka did, this announcement wouldn’t have been a big deal to a lot of people.
It was so disrespectful what Kolcielcy did. I remember that video it was more than just the shirt.
No sportsman ship whatsoever. Especially for someone who has been a captain and played at the club for 10+ years
I've never met an Arsenal Fan that Hates Bosscielny, must be a twitter thing. Our best defender for must of the time he was at the club.
Underrated in his time at Arsenal but the unveiling came off as tasteless to fans of the club. Still leaves a sour taste tbh.
Was not there 10+ years and this has long been forgotten
This guy assured us regular champions league
I'm an arsenal fan but this is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's a legend.
I believe he had a gentleman's agreement that he could leave before the end of his contract. He agreed to stay a bit longer due to defensive injuries but Arsenal's defensive plight did not get any better when the deferred leaving date came up, and they wanted him to fulfil the rest of his contract term. His heart was set on returning to his hometown club in France to finish his playing days and stuck to his guns with this antic. The club let him go, but unfortunately, an icon of the club disappeared acrimoniously out the side door without the plaudits he would normally have received for his services.
He should’ve played in a much better team. How we kept him for so long baffled me as we were awful for most of his stay
His still a legend, he fell out of favour with management...he didnt fall out of favour with the fans...get ur facts right...
There wasn't much of a legacy to ruin
ah, yes, his 3 FA Cup wins and 1 EFL Cup wasn’t much of a legacy
@@DJRen18he's a beast be we never won an EFL cup with him
@@ichikoro huh you’re right. weird, i thought we won in 2011
After Nicky Santoro put Koscielny’s head in a vice, he wasn’t the same after.
He has a chance to be an arsenal hero (not quite a legend) but his act make him will be remembered as a mere former player not a club legend or even a Hero. how ironic
No one hates Koscielny, it's an over reaction from you. Not arsenal fan. And he did not ruin his legacy he gave 10 years plus he's a legend.
I really didn't understand the outrage for this. It's a pretty normal announcement video and I'm pretty sure he didn't mean any disrespect to Arsenal. He was an excellent servant for Arsenal and our best defender by far during many years. How can you hate him?
He should just keep away from the Emirates because Nasir's experience in 2023 should be a hard lesson for him.
He will never been welcomed back to the club in the future as back room staff
So misleading. That summer Bordeaux announced all their signings where the players would wear their old team shirt. Also, he wasn’t at Arsenal for 10+ seasons. Also, he literally shortened his career having played thru injury for us which ended his World Cup dream. He literally just wanted to go back to France.
The story is not entirely accurate.
Arsenal did not want to sell Koscielny whatsoever.
Koscielny was Arsenal main CB & captain, he still had his pace & was playing well prior to Europa final.
He however was the one who wanted a move away, Arsenal denied a move telling him to join Preseason squad.
He then tried force a move by refusing to go on tour, that led to him being disciplined, kept at home and sold.
Arsenal had no plans to sell the club captain, the breakup was messy.
He then did that Bordeaux video to make things even worse.
Remember Koscielny last ever game was the Europa League final where he put up a 2nd half disasterclass, embarassing performance.
Should have been sold for that alone, instead Arsenal willing to still have him despite being older.
After his situation Arsenal then immediately signed Saliba for 27m as Koscielny long term replacement (loaned back) and then signed David Luiz short term for 8m.
Luiz helped Arsenal win FA Cup & Saliba prior to injury almost helped Arsenal win PL.
So his sale worked out well for Arsenal, while his legacy was destroyed beyond repair.
I don't know about adding ruining legacy and it being beyond repair. It might be for the new generation of fans who are short sighted. He literally was Arsenals best CB for a decade and was EPLS best CB for a while. he was touted by many EPL pundits and players as a world class CB. Real Madrid and Bayern wanted him consistently and he still chose to stay with Arsenal. He decided to move on because he didn't want to play for Emery and the new board and he was 34 I believe. How did he ruin his legacy lol if anything you and most fans are sensationalizing this departure and shirt reveal like it's a sin lol
This is so not a big deal it’s insane
It’s not when you take into consideration the fact that Arsenal wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave so bad that he went on strike and didn’t show up for training to force the move.
He never had a legacy at Arsenal. His mistakes cost us a Carabao Cup, an FA Cup and two Europa Leagues. Good riddance.
Great defender for us. Had a hilariously bad debut for us - that I remember 😂. Formed a solid partnership with Mertesacker too. But he was a bit of a d*ck for the manner in which he left the club. It left a lot of people shocked and disappointed. That aside, he'll be remembered for years to come.
No hate actually. People who following him since 2010 will say same. It was a good concept.
He is french, I am not surprised at all.
Dude played his ass off for arsenal tho and was decent to use in fifa.
Wenger will be haunted by this transfer , dno what he was thinking 🙄
He refused to travel to the states with the rest of the team he captained, for pre-season training
To me his nickname was and still is "The Razor " ❤❤❤
Never forget his stupid ball against Atlectico and League cup Final With Birmingham city. All crucial moments.
Thank you!!! Overrated liability. Penalty against Bayern too.
That league cup 😢😢😢😢😢..i almost cried
Every single humiliating loss Arsenal had from 2011 until Wenger left (and there where a lot !) Koscielny played in ALL of them.
He was the least shit of a terrible bunch of defenders and that’s it.
He also had the dubious accolade of “most improved defender” that basically means that he was fucking crap but now he’s a bit better. That isn’t an accolade I would be proud of. Koscielny’s career was lame and he was an awful defender.
You all remember those two things and you forgot what he gives for 10 years ? You call yourself a Arsenal fan..??? Seriously 😳
@@DonCorleone803 Been an arsenal fan since 1990. You?
This is just stupid. Respect for Laurent.
Fantastic Player for us. Injured to much at crucial points in seasons tho. Will always be a club great (not legend, great). How he left was shameful, bascially going on strike, and forcing a move and that video was just pathetic. But its been what? 4 years since? I've gotten over it. But at the time. Not the way you leave a club
Nah,we still love him no worries cap
He will always be a legend at Arsenal what he did for Arsenal is far bigger than a little mistake
He ain't a Arsenal legend regardless of the shirt incident !
@@dustcore He was Arsenal best defender for around 8 years, I removed his goals qualifying us for the champions league in the last game of the season.
Are these not the same commentators/ex pros who picked Arsenal to finish 6th this past season?
i want to erase him and mustafi from my memory
absolute disaster duo worst defense in arsenal history
This lad is one of the best defender arsenal had.. the true mistakes is when arsene put Gallas as the captian n centre back 😂
I thin it was just an error of him being excited. I don't think it was a deliberate insult.
I have no issue with a player who gave everything to the arsenal in his time there!
I cant hate him. He gave us absolutely everything until the post wenger regime treated him badly.
he couldn't have done that if both shirt sponsors weren't puma.
Arsenal disrespected him
Let's also not forget that his announcement video would have been choreographed (cringe) by Bordeaux so he was just doing as he was told. Back then you didn't get as many kids whining over something like that
he did apologise
Atleast it was one of them puma kits🤮
He went on strike to force a move and released the new club video ahead of official announcement. Not longer welcome and Persona Non Grata Laurent!
Amen
He was an average, over rated defender, and never close to being a club legend
He didn't ruin anything
At least he didn’t stay, draw a huge salary and says he’s a cool captain? Just like auba, their legacies were never ruined, it’s just mostly normal for players to leave their clubs at a below than desirable situation. How often are break ups beautifully done?
Me don't care... I'm an Arsenal fan, players come and go
Mfs named Josh:💀
An over reaction from Arsenal fans!? Surely not. They're not known for over reactions are they. Oh, wait....
Koss the boss
yhhh you can't be a captain and do something like that... a bit unnecessary
Blatant stupidity. But what bettered this was song&sanchez.
Always forgive calm