Maura Murray /// Julie Murray Interview /// Part 1
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Maura Murray /// Julie Murray Interview /// Part 1
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This week Julie Murray sits down for an interview with the Captain. She gives us some of the truths about her missing sister Maura and some insights from the family.
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Maura was stopped for speeding in Hooksett New Hampshire. Maura had to appear in Hooksett District Court. Maura had to pay a a fine. Maura was told at that time that her privilege to operate in the state of New Hampshire was under suspension for a certain amount of time. If indeed Maura had not taken care of said suspension up until the time that she had the accident with her father's Corolla she would definitely still be aware of that fact and would not need to be told that by the Hadley police officer.
Maura was well aware that she was still under suspension in the state of New Hampshire and that issue needed to be taken care of before she could operate in that state again.
I would bet that somewhere and Maura belongings or at her parents house there should be a set of documents related to this incident which would further clear this up.
Who was the person that Maura was supposed to be tutoring that week in athletics..? Was that a male or a female..?
I think another important question here is did Maura have any clinicals scheduled for the week of February 9th 2004 that she would be missing because of her absence..?
Let's get back to reality here folks.
It would seem that she would tell her boyfriend, “ hey, I’m running up to NH to pay a reinstatement fee for my license. I’ll check in when I get back.” Especially if she knows her car is crap… I’ll listen to part two.
I don’t know. I think it speaks to recklessness. Let’s see..Fort Knox shop lifting. She didn’t forget. She knew the honor code. Then stealing someone else’s credit card and charging it many many times. Impulse control problems.
This is very important because it may indicate whether or not she jumped into some strangers car. Poor judgement?
Where is part 2?
Apparently posted on another app
The defensiveness palpable. I’m so sorry for their loss but I truly believe that there were serious emotional mental illness that contributed greatly.
Let’s not for get about Brianna Maitland who disappeared 38 days after Maura Murray. Maybe the cases are connected maybe not but the both happened on hwy 112 and in 2004
Brianna didn't disappear on 112
Maitland didn’t disappear on 112, it was something like 100 miles from Maura. Police initially thought they could be related, but realized Maitland was not connected.
It’s been pretty thoroughly established the cases are in no way connected.
If this Julie chick is from Massachusetts, than I am the king of Zimbabwe. She sounds like she is Canadian, not someone who was born and raised in Massachusetts. She has absolutely 0 accent. I wish you had asked her to say "park the car in the Harvard yard". This whole story was hinky to begin with. Hearing the "sisters" voice, makes me question the legitimacy of the entire story.
Massachusetts people outside Boston have significantly different accents. Also people who have traveled and lived in different places have a tendency to lose their accent.
Is this like a joke? Or are you actually seriously questioning whether Julie Murray is Maura's sister? It's well known that she is.
What a rude comment.
@@Traci.Johnson.Francisco bred* (learn English)
@@alexandrazakos528 I would but my dad just died of a terminal illness and now I have cancer but thanks for pointing out something small and meaningless. Life is too short to be so petty. A bit of advice, let that shit go.
I've never in my life put an item in my pockets I planned to then pay for at a register. People do this???
No. She stole it. Why? Cause she’s human, I guess.
I stole once, got caught, and have never thought about doing it again. Why did I do it? I have nooooo idea besides my friends were doing it.
J L P L I don’t buy that either. I think she took it on purpose. And even if she did, so what? People make mistakes like this, especially at that age. To me, it does seem like maybe she wanted to get caught to have a case, against her, to have to leave that school. She didn’t seem to like it there, according to her sister, and that’s ok.
I'm probably as straight and narrow as they come. I once walked out with a diet coke in my hands, making it past the register. Outside: what the hell did I just do? I don't get the pocket thing, but people do, in fact, do this.
Brad Dunshee I think we can conclude she most likely was stealing on purpose since she had also stolen credit card info. But 🤷🏼♀️
Brad Dunshee But while you’re here since I’m not getting any answers elsewhere, can any of you explain how exactly she crashed? I get turning and then ending up turned around but I can’t understand smashing the front of her car and then ending up how she did.
bring part 2 cap, please...
I heard about this case a month ago and it really left me with a deep feeling of sympathy for Maura and her family. I hope they can get some real answers as to what really happened with her. god bless
More than likely she took the lip gloss so that she would have an infraction and be able to separate herself from West Point. West Point definitely has some issues and all you have to do is read the article with Donald Rumsfeld in it.
Love u John yes it goes deeper the psychopath has admitted to killing maura and Brianna and many others. I keep getting cut off what are they hiding?
I am standing alone here need back up. Are you in or not? I am a living victim who knows the truth are u with me or not
But she apparently (according to her sister) didn’t have to have an infraction to get our of West Point. At the end of the second year she could just drop out like the other cadets did. It’s only after she signs the “contract” that she is committed, which apparently happens after the 2nd year. Isn’t that what her sister just said?
I think that taking the lip gloss was a "cry for help"; she was not happy there.
Why didn't Nic take the lead on this? Really great job but kinda wish you would've stuck to the script because sometimes.. Idk... If it's NOT broke DONT fix it.. You all have a really good system.. Hope this doesn't come across wrong.. Remember constructive criticism is NOT hating! I just wish you both would've been able to interview her at the same time, 2 minds are so much better then 1.. This podcast guest was way to important to not allow Nic to do what he does best.. I get it though Captain needs to lead 2 at times but not on something like this!
Anyway LOVE you both
xoxo
I agree 100%. Where was Nic, in this episode? His absence makes a huge difference. Especially with such an important guest. Thanks.
@@josepha.spadaro7881 Okay good! I'm glad it's not just me.. Dont get me wrong I love Captain and this podcast has become what it is because of the both of them but.... Why was Nic if nothing else a co-interviewer, even if it was Captain who scored the interview.. (Not sure if that's how it went but lol) I've noticed that "maybe" Captain wants more "shine" so to speak, not realising how important he already is to this whole system they have gone on.. I'm probably off and Nics on vaca somewhere but if not please know you both are very much valued to me & I know to all my true crime friends.
Hands down BEST podcast duo out there!!!!!!
Missed Nic on this one A LOT.
Dig the show, but I cant get into these interviews. Every interview they do, I try to listen but I cant do it. Their regular crime story telling tho is on point.
Typically love TCG but the constant compliments and weird innuendos are creepy af. You’re not ‘buttering her up’ you are making her uncomfortable. Shame on you captain - you are talking about her likely dead sister - ease off the flirting attempts. Nik - have a word.
The Capitan is always weird. Some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth you can tell he thinks is funny but makes everyone else feel awkward. Especially when talking about missing persons or someone who is likely deceased, its inappropriate.
To be fair to the captain, it was probably excruciatingly hard to get this interview. The family is notoriously private and don’t give interviews to find their daughter.
So the fact Julie came on here, he probably agreed to not press her or make her feel uncomfortable based upon how the family has acted.
@@Traci.Johnson.Francisco how dare u put el capitan down!! He is the GOAT
@@JW-28 He's more of a horse's ass IMO. Greatest of all time? I think not. Maybe if I met the guy I'd like him but I can't stand listening to him
I think Maura is long dead. She either died from exposure or she was killed elsewhere.
great interview and nice and refreshing to listen to a show that strips this case down and talks about things rationally. Thoughts a prayers to the Murray family.
I can understand her putting lip gloss in pocket a forgetting about it, especially if she was with friends and got distracted by giving an opinion on what they were purchasing for example.
Regarding the credit card, has it been confirmed only Maura used it? could it be that a number of people were using it and Maura was told whenever she was ordering food to use the card as it belonged to someone in the dorm and their parents picked up the tab and just give them the cash at the end of the week so they had the cash and when caught realized what was going on and didn't want to rat them out and also appear foolish?
Death in family - used as an excuse to getaway for a number of reasons and wouldn't be punished for missing a clinical trial:
1) Pay outstanding fine
2) fatigue & frustration (mental exhaustion) - Maura had taken a lot on, nursing studies, athletics, 2 jobs - under normal circumstances wouldn't be an issue for her but in a short space of time there was the credit card situation, accident in her dads car and call from her sister, all of this at a time as I understand things she was injured and unable to do her running, could her running be the thing that best helped her clear her mind?
I would guess she was taking a week off, couple of days in NH at a motel to pay fine and just blowing off steam - thats what the alcohol was for then going for a few days to her moms house for a couple of reasons:
1) taking the saturn to her moms house to sell from there as would have to pay for additional parking once she got new car.
2) from what I've seen wasn't her mom unable to join search as she'd broken her ankle? Was Maura going to surprise her mom by turning up to help her out for a few days but also needing some mom time with everything she had going on?
Regarding the accident scene, could it just be an accident? no conspiracy just an accident, maybe there was a car on the wrong side of the road, Maura had to swerve to avoid crashing and thats how she ended up on the wrong side of the road? After this, then something happens to Maura when she was walking to try and get a signal or was picked up by someone? The biggest issue isnt what was happening with Maura at Umass or what happened at West Point. It's that law enforcement did a piss poor job that night, from getting lost on way to scene to only checking in 1 direction. To thinking it was just a DUI runaway. Thats why they dont want the FBI involved and why they won't let Mr Murray and family have access to the case files. LE should do the decent thing and admit their failings, 10 years ago they denied access to the files as they said it would jeopardize the case and at the time said there was around 70% chance of criminal charges being issued soon? 10 years on and nothing so either release files to family or admit you lied/over exaggerated the progress being made.
A West Point Cadet on a supervised “outing” to the commissary at Fort Knox doesn’t put ANYTHING “in their pocket”.
Per the discussion of stolen lip gloss from military commissary @ 32:00 in, I do NOT believe for a single moment that people of average intelligence, never mind those as brilliant as Maura, ''put merchandise in their pocket while shopping and simply FORGET to pay for them upon leaving''. I do NOT wish to say anything derogatory about Maura, but hypothetically speaking, the ''forgot to pay notion'' is just STUPID!!! If a person is at a market and puts an item in their pocket, it shows intent which constitutes theft. I couldn't believe that you guys admitted to having done that. IT JUST ISN'T NORMAL!!!
I'm considered to be a pretty smart guy (majored in Physics in college and graduated magna cum laude), and I've definitely put merchandise in my pocket and forgotten to pay for it (when I found it I went back and paid). It's typically called being "scattered" or "absent-minded" and it's a trait people frequently associate with intelligence, so it's odd to me you can't believe someone as smart as Maura could have done this.
Conversely, I would never in a million years intentionally steal something very cheap that I had the means to pay for, nor can I understand why someone would. It's a completely alien mindset to me. But just because I can't put myself in that mindset doesnt mean I can't believe someone else would do that. So yes of course Maura may also have deliberately stolen it. Clearly either is possible.
The commissary at Ft friggin Knox...she was a West Point Cadet...I was just a regular army grunt and you don’t steal from post, period.
I think it’s pretty obvious this was a cry for help from Maura to leave West Point without actually having to do it and make the choice herself. That’s my take away from it anyway.
It was the 2nd time she was caught shoplifting while at WP.
@@JohnSmith-cj9cx no?!?! What happened?
She stole the lip gloss. Period.
From Ft Knox!
Probably a cry for help to leave there. Which is understandable..
@@johnlanton9363 she could have gone to the office and quit. She stole at UMass too. Maybe the real problem was inside her head.
Yes! She also used a stolen credit card, racking up hundreds of dollars. I can't stand the way the sister played that down and made excuses, facts are facts. It doesn't make Maura a bad person, but let's be real here.
@@JohnSmith-cj9cx she could not have gone to the office and quit.
When is part 2 out?
I just watched this case on Oxygen
I feel terrible for Julie, Fred, and the entire family. I wish someone could have gotten Maura the help she needed before she took that trip to New Hampshire in the Saturn. I wish she would have turned around how she was living her life in time to avoid that fateful night. If she reached out to any of her friends, it seems none of them are speaking about it. I pray Maura is found very soon, it's already been way too long!
Thanks for the love. Cheers
99 Mph “pretty fast” quote of the show!!
Can anyone explain or link me to somewhere that explains how exactly her car crashed that night? I can understand turning and then spinning completely around but I can’t understand her hitting the front part of her car and then ending up how she did.
Great question. I wonder how they even know which direction she was coming from to begin with.
New England's Insomniac Theatre I was thinking about how the Westman’s knew which way she came from and maybe it’s just because they assumed from the noise that she had just turned the corner and spun out as opposed to wrecking going straight like she would have had to do coming from the other way. But idk
@@amyashley3182 There are some good Reddit discussions like the topic East or West? They discuss the direction she may have been traveling. And the point you made is in that post and seems like a good one. It's likely she was heading East but even that is up for debate.
I tend to think she hit a snow bank. Cecil Smith took photos of the accident site that night that the public has never seen. That could definitely clear up some confusion.
www.reddit.com/r/mauramurray/comments/4x9np5/the_damage_to_mauras_car/ Try this link. Someone made an attempt at the reconstruction and good discussion followed.
New England's Insomniac Theatre I’ll check it out! Thanks!
Thank you for this! Great episode.
12:33 I think this is the first time I've ever heard Julie laugh :)
My two favs! Drink a cold one for me!
I'm from Macon Ga, and soon as I heard you guys mentioning my hometown, you had my attention. #Subscribed
Also, Julie, thank you for being on, I'm from SA and been following since at least 2014!
Let the Captain be on top once in awhile...😘🥳
New information, for sure. I definitely am not one to think her Dad was any kind of person that was terrible to his daughter at all. I also know that some of the things Maura did, that are looked down on, are not near as bad as what many get themselves into at the age of 21. I do wonder why it seems that no one wants to touch on the idea that she had a recent history of getting into some situations, that might be the cause of her wanting to get away. She had issues with the boyfriend. She had that wreck. Even if her Dad blew up (at first) some make it sound like shame on him for doing that. He’s human for goodness sake. Yelling at a kid that just totaled your car is not a bad thing. So what I’m saying, is that all of those things probably piled up on her, and made her want to get away for that week.
Well said💯👍🏼👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🌃
This is very possible and has been discussed by most people heavily involved in the case. I think most would say it's either possible or very likely this is what happened. But it's also just sort of boring and doesn't lead anywhere useful, so that's probably why you don't see it discussed more often.
Is there a part 2 anywhere
Props to Julie for doing the show. I think too much time and effort is being used to try and figure out why Maura was there. Most of this info doesn't matter. Ask yourself a question. I "you" broke down on that road which house would be the one that would look most inviting if you were trying to find a safe place to stay for a while and use the phone to call someone you knew for help to get out of Dodge.
Not true. She could’ve started walking in the cold, realized police were showing up, she was drunk and cold, and then just jumped into the first car that offered a ride after Butch. Whoever that person was could’ve done her harm.
Another reason why finding out why she was up there is important is that it could perhaps help us understand who did this? If she was alone, probably a stranger and if she wasn’t then the tandem driver.
@@johnlanton9363 She had a suspended license in that state so good chance she went there to pay the fine so she could get a new car put in her name. I don't find the tandem driver theory likely but I do think she might have been meeting someone there. Getting in another car while possible in this case she disappeared way to quickly. I think she knocked on the wrong door and I think we already know which one.
Just for the record, I know people who’ve had suspended licenses in certain states and never went back to drive in that state and still got along fine. My father did a cross country trip and got his license revoked in PA. He lives no where near there, and was never going to be driving in PA again. So he never took care of it and he has a license and car registered to him without an issue. So you don’t NEED to take care of that to get a new car.
It’s certainly possible Maura went to NH to do that though. Nobody really knows. What always bothered me was the large amount of alcohol she had purchased.
@@johnlanton9363 It's my understanding that while she could chose not to ever drive in that state again she did have to pay the fine to get a new car registered in her name. I could be wrong, but each state is different. You also have to remember that she was in a place that she traveled to many times before and would likely go back as in the night she was there for example. So even if she didn't get a DUI she was still driving under a suspended license. Look here and it will show what the laws are if you get your license suspended out of state and you live in Mass. www.mass.gov/service-details/out-of-state-suspensions-and-revocations
2nd!!!
First!!!!
3rd!
Such schlock from both of yas. Maura was a punk. She shoplifted. Sje drove drunk. She was ready to party jer last $30 bucks while her dad was scrounging for money to buy her a car. Her sister is floundering/cash grabbing in amisplaced effort to salvage her sister's memory. Give it up. Concentrate on finding her remains and (maybe) murderer.
Total mess of an interview, both parts. Sloppy use of a good PR opportunity - if that's what Julie and her family really wanted. Unless she's being strategically deceptive, Julie sounds very naive, misguided, and undisciplined. Also, the Captain was not exactly sensitive to one or two of Julie's siblings, essentially furthering the scapegoat/golden-child family dynamic (see Salvador Minuchin and Judith Lewis Herman) constantly on public display and which may in fact be central to a solution. Captain's voice is especially handy for editing. Did police review this interview before it was made public? Is that why so much of it sounds useless?
I'm from South Africa, and even I... wanna know where our girl is, kinda angry!