Yo fui ayer y me decepcionó mucho, a mí me encanta el pulque y la e sorpresa, ya no lo hacen, los lugareños dicen que ya nadie hace pulque, ya no hay magueyes y los que hay no los dejan crecer mucho, dicen solo l usan para usar la telita para hacer mixiotes, , yo nunca encontré las haciendas!! Y si las había, no cualquiera entra, menos para comprar dos litros, el que hizo el vídeo debió ir a esas haciendas y ver dónde lo hacen, la misma gente del lugar ni saben dónde!
Hola Alberto. This video was very interesting to me and left me thinking about many aspects of Mexico's history and culture. It's too bad the church was closed. When I wanted to photograph the convento in Tlahuelilpan, Hgo. but found it closed I was fortunate to encounter a young man who said he was living with the priest along with several other students. He invited me to comida and said he could unlock the church and convento afterward. A very memorable experience, as was seeing the diminutive cloister. I remember that the meal included green beans. I would have enjoyed seeing more details of the facade as well as the interior of the church in Apan. I'm thinking that the original baroque era retablo mayor may still be in place, but with a baldachino added in the sanctuary during the neoclassical remodeling. But I could be mistaken. The exhaciendas seem kind of sad when they are hemmed in by suburbs and housing tracts. They need room to breath. In 1974 I stopped to see the exhacienda de Torija near Oriental, Pue. There was plenty of open land around it back then. Maybe not now. That is a fascinating area that I wish I could have spent more time visiting. Now doubt you will make 50 videos of the area someday. I remember you did an excellent video on Cuetzalan (the reason I ventured into the area in the first place was to be in Cuetzalan for market day, but a landslide a few miles from Cuetzalan prevented my getting there). I did see a few other towns in spite of the rainy weather. Near Tlapacoyan I noticed some crosses decorated with heliconia flowers on the side of the road. Do you know what that is. You may call it platanillo. It looks like a lot of bird of paradise flowers strung together like beads. I noticed heliconia growing wild in the mountains between Valle Nacional and Oaxaca City. The road was new in 1974 and little used. In some places vines grew across the road and nearly obscured the asphalt. Near Tlapacoyan there is the zona arqueologica Filolobos on the river of the same name. Cuajilote and the smaller Vega de la Pena both have interesting restored ruins. Unfortunately I didn't see them, and I'm not sure they were restored in 1974. In Altotonga I noticed a man wearing a thatch raincoat. Are they still used? In the mountains inland from Puerto Angel, Oaxaca I encountered a man using an elephant ear leaf as an umbrella. If you don't recognize what that is just envision a tropical leaf the size of the ear of an African elephant. Atzalan had a ruined church, the Franciscan Capilla de Fatima. There is a nearby waterfall that is about 65 meters high. You may have made videos on some of these places. You have so many videos I forgot to check through all of them. Another Interesting archaeological site that is being publicized more is Cantona, Pue. It is a large site, off of Highway 140D, sort of NE of Oriental. Six of its ball courts have been restored, but several times more await restoration. You have so many amazing possibilities for great videos. I'm nostalgic about railways, so I enjoyed the information about the trains. I used to take the train from Mexicali to Guadalajara and enjoyed the leisurely entry into Mexico. I was dismayed to discover it no longer is in service. On one trip my first class car, probably in service at the end of Porfirio Diaz's administration, was attached to the second class train. it took two days to reach Guadalajara but I got to see a lot of small towns close up. Another trip I met a weaver from Teotitlan del Valle, Oax. He had been invited by people living in Los Angeles and san Francisco to come visit them. We had a great time on the train and I invited him to stay with me in San Diego on his way back to Mexico, which he did. I think he spent four days seeing the sights with me. The trains didn't have dining cars like the pullman trains I rode on in the US in the 1960s. Food vendors would board every few hours and sell all manor of food and drink. We were ankle deep in trash after eating. An attendant came through the cars and swept up everything. I wondered where the trash was stored and followed the man back to the next car. Before he entered the next car he opened the outside door and swept everything outside onto the track. Oh well. The station in Apan isn't as ornate as some of the stations in Mexico, such as the one in Guanajuato. That is a very nice station. The 1909 edition of "Terry's Mexico" by T. Philip Terry was very complimentary of Mexico's first class and pullman trains. In 1876 Mexico had a mere 3000 miles of track, but by 1909 there was 20,000 miles of track. First class fare cost about 3 cents per km. In 1909 there was no rail service between Mexicali (godforsaken and at the end of the earth) and Santa Ana, but the Sonora Railway went from Nogales to Guaymas, and from there the incomplete Cananea, Yaqui River, and Pacific Railway continued on to Guadalajara. The railway that went from Veracruz to Mexico City and that served Apan was the Mexico Railway. "Terry's Mexico" mentions the importance of Apan in the Pulque industry, although he was not overly impressed by the purquerias in the cities, of the pulque served there, nor of the borachos who bought their favorite liquor for 3-5 cents per liter. Terry gives a good description of the tlachiqueros and the entire pulque making process. When I was in Santiago Tianguistenco, near Tenango and Malinalco, Mex., in 1974, I took a photo of a bunch of inflated pig skins. I didn't know what they were for at the time but they must be used by the tlachiqueros when collecting the aqua miel with an acocote. Is that correct. See, I told you your video had caused me to think about many aspects of Mexico. Anyway, stay well and happy explorations.
Good morning William, every time I read your lines I understand the great knowledge you have of Mexico and as I have always said, we have many Mexicans who do not imagine the value of our history or our peoples and traditions and that gives courage. Some of the haciendas in Apan are being restored to turn them into hotels, but they are losing their originality, and they are only open on Saturdays and Sundays. I promise I will return to Apan to see and take video of some of them, as well as the church. Palm raincoats are no longer used, I got to know them because my grandfather had one and we used to wear it as children to play, they were called "Chinese", the Cuetzalan region is beautiful, I have a video there but I promise to go soon To update information, on Sundays there is a street market and many indigenous people come down from the mountain who still preserve their customs and traditions. It is very beautiful. Of the books you are talking about, please recommend me some with their name and author. I hope you continue very well friend and there we keep in touch, take care.
@@PuebleandoConAlberto Hola Alberto. I'm glad you think what I have to say is worth reading. I'm looking forward to your return visit to Cuetzalan. I'm sure I could spend 2-4 weeks exploring the area. Have you been to the zona arqueologica Yohualichan? About 15 kms past Cuetzalan off of highway 575. Similar to El Tajin. The area bounded by Puebla to Huauchinango to Tlapacoyan to Jalapa to Tehuacan and back to Puebla could provide enough material for a dozen documentaries. You asked about books. I'm not sure where to start, since my library on Mexico contains 30 feet of books on many aspects of Mexican history and culture. The book I cited in my last comment was "Terry's Mexico" by T Philip Terry. I have the first 1909 edition. At some point the title changed to "Terry's Guide to Mexico". I have a 1935 edition of that. The later edition is a bit updated but is essentially the same. There are also 1922, 1927, 1938 and 1947 editions. Later, after a long hiatus, James Norman took over, completely reworked the guide, and published 1962, 1965 and 1972 editions. There may be a later edition. The 1972 edition was a good guide but by no means all inclusive. Even the best guides miss half of what is worth seeing. Every edition of this guide is at least 800 pages long. Copies of the earlier editions do come on the market (try Abe Books if you can't find a copy near you). The early editions are fascinating as period history, providing insight to life in Mexico more than a century ago. What else? Three internet sites worth knowing about and that I may have mentioned before. The first is "Mexico Cooks!". Not just about food, which I know interests you a lot. Also covers markets, many aspects of culture, architecture, textiles, crafts. A treasure trove of great material. Ever eaten ceremonial tortillas from Guanajuato? If not find out about them on this site. Two more sites, both run by the author Richard D. Perry. "colonialmexico.blogspot.com." and "mexicosmurals.blogspot.com.". Both offer a wealth of information on Mexico's colonial architecture and art. Not everything is covered, but a lot is. If you want to find a specific church go to the very top left corner and type in a church name or a town name, using both sites. I never know what might work, if at all. On the right side of the two sites there is a monthly choice of about 12 years of material. Perry is getting old and is starting to wind down new additions but there is much to savor. The latest offering includes the Church of the Nazarene in the town of Jesus Maria, Aguascalientes. It has a baroque era retablo mayor, perhaps originally intended for the cathedral in Aguascalientes City. Under the blog on murals there are some photos of the painted nave (ceiling, walls) of a barrio chapel in the town of San Juan Teotihuacan. It also has a beautifully carved facade. All three blogs have been posting for at least ten years, so it will take ages to see everything. If you like books Richard D. Perry has written several on the colonial Architecture of Mexico, all paperback so relatively reasonable in price. "Exploring Colonial Oaxaca", "Mexico's Fortress Monasteries", "Maya Missions: Exploring Colonial Yucatan", "More Maya Missions: Exploring Colonial Chiapas", and Blue Lakes and Silver Cities: The Art and Architecture of Colonial West Mexico". Of considerable interest to anyone interested in Hidalgo is the "Catalogo de Construcciones Religiosas del Estado de Hidalgo...1929-1932", Luis Azcue y Mancera and Justino Fernandez, printed 1940, Talleres Graficos de la Nacion, Mexico, 2 volumes. A monumental, elephant-size folio work covering every religious building in the state. Plans, photos, renderings. About 34x24x11 cms. Heavy but really fascinating, seeing all of the old rural churches that had thatched roofs. Rare and hard to find, but copies do show up in Mexico every so often. Let me know what you are interested in, and I'll see if I can recommend some additional books. You mentioned the people coming to the market in Cuetzalan. If you are interested in traje indigena I can suggest a few books on that subject. Happy reading and exploring. Stay well.
Para nada, yo fui ayer y l no encontré ningún lugar que vendieran pulque, los mismos lugareños dicen que ya no lo hacen, fui de en balde, ya se me hacía agua la boca de probar el pulque y no hay nada, ya no lo hacen
Bueno, y porqué no entraste a esas haciendas?, para ver saber cómo comprar pulque al por menor, la verdad yo fui para comprar pulque y me fui de ahí muy decepcionada
Ese es otro problema , que la mayoria de haciendas ya son muy particulares y no dejan entrar , inclusive la primera vez que fui iba emocionado porque iba a conocerlas pero para nada , para buen pulque y con seguridad hay todos los dias ve a singuilucan Hgo o a Tepetlaoxtoc Edomex.
Hermano, tengo una duda porque le pusieron al pueblo que está muy cerca de apan. veloz Muchos dicen que era xque pasaban los trailers veloz, la verdad estaría jenial que isieras un video
@@PuebleandoConAlberto Buen día!! Usted hace mención en el vídeo , sobre las haciendas que aparecen ilustradas en las letras , una de ellas es la hacienda Zotoluca (Veloz) .
que bello es apan que bonito video gracias por compartir
Gracias por verlo amiga y por comentar , suscribete
Muy buenos tus videos
Muchas gracias amigo te invito a suscribirte
Muy bonito mi apan yo llevo casi 15 años que no vivo Ai pero como lo extraño
Ojalá pronto regreses amigo , saludos
Hermoso lugar mi Apan
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Me gustaría saber costos de recorrido en auto. Y también cómo llegar en autobús
Partiendo de donde?
Yo fui ayer y me decepcionó mucho, a mí me encanta el pulque y la e sorpresa, ya no lo hacen, los lugareños dicen que ya nadie hace pulque, ya no hay magueyes y los que hay no los dejan crecer mucho, dicen solo l usan para usar la telita para hacer mixiotes, , yo nunca encontré las haciendas!! Y si las había, no cualquiera entra, menos para comprar dos litros, el que hizo el vídeo debió ir a esas haciendas y ver dónde lo hacen, la misma gente del lugar ni saben dónde!
Hola Alberto. This video was very interesting to me and left me thinking about many aspects of Mexico's history and culture. It's too bad the church was closed. When I wanted to photograph the convento in Tlahuelilpan, Hgo. but found it closed I was fortunate to encounter a young man who said he was living with the priest along with several other students. He invited me to comida and said he could unlock the church and convento afterward. A very memorable experience, as was seeing the diminutive cloister. I remember that the meal included green beans. I would have enjoyed seeing more details of the facade as well as the interior of the church in Apan. I'm thinking that the original baroque era retablo mayor may still be in place, but with a baldachino added in the sanctuary during the neoclassical remodeling. But I could be mistaken. The exhaciendas seem kind of sad when they are hemmed in by suburbs and housing tracts. They need room to breath. In 1974 I stopped to see the exhacienda de Torija near Oriental, Pue. There was plenty of open land around it back then. Maybe not now. That is a fascinating area that I wish I could have spent more time visiting. Now doubt you will make 50 videos of the area someday. I remember you did an excellent video on Cuetzalan (the reason I ventured into the area in the first place was to be in Cuetzalan for market day, but a landslide a few miles from Cuetzalan prevented my getting there). I did see a few other towns in spite of the rainy weather. Near Tlapacoyan I noticed some crosses decorated with heliconia flowers on the side of the road. Do you know what that is. You may call it platanillo. It looks like a lot of bird of paradise flowers strung together like beads. I noticed heliconia growing wild in the mountains between Valle Nacional and Oaxaca City. The road was new in 1974 and little used. In some places vines grew across the road and nearly obscured the asphalt. Near Tlapacoyan there is the zona arqueologica Filolobos on the river of the same name. Cuajilote and the smaller Vega de la Pena both have interesting restored ruins. Unfortunately I didn't see them, and I'm not sure they were restored in 1974. In Altotonga I noticed a man wearing a thatch raincoat. Are they still used? In the mountains inland from Puerto Angel, Oaxaca I encountered a man using an elephant ear leaf as an umbrella. If you don't recognize what that is just envision a tropical leaf the size of the ear of an African elephant. Atzalan had a ruined church, the Franciscan Capilla de Fatima. There is a nearby waterfall that is about 65 meters high. You may have made videos on some of these places. You have so many videos I forgot to check through all of them. Another Interesting archaeological site that is being publicized more is Cantona, Pue. It is a large site, off of Highway 140D, sort of NE of Oriental. Six of its ball courts have been restored, but several times more await restoration. You have so many amazing possibilities for great videos. I'm nostalgic about railways, so I enjoyed the information about the trains. I used to take the train from Mexicali to Guadalajara and enjoyed the leisurely entry into Mexico. I was dismayed to discover it no longer is in service. On one trip my first class car, probably in service at the end of Porfirio Diaz's administration, was attached to the second class train. it took two days to reach Guadalajara but I got to see a lot of small towns close up. Another trip I met a weaver from Teotitlan del Valle, Oax. He had been invited by people living in Los Angeles and san Francisco to come visit them. We had a great time on the train and I invited him to stay with me in San Diego on his way back to Mexico, which he did. I think he spent four days seeing the sights with me. The trains didn't have dining cars like the pullman trains I rode on in the US in the 1960s. Food vendors would board every few hours and sell all manor of food and drink. We were ankle deep in trash after eating. An attendant came through the cars and swept up everything. I wondered where the trash was stored and followed the man back to the next car. Before he entered the next car he opened the outside door and swept everything outside onto the track. Oh well. The station in Apan isn't as ornate as some of the stations in Mexico, such as the one in Guanajuato. That is a very nice station. The 1909 edition of "Terry's Mexico" by T. Philip Terry was very complimentary of Mexico's first class and pullman trains. In 1876 Mexico had a mere 3000 miles of track, but by 1909 there was 20,000 miles of track. First class fare cost about 3 cents per km. In 1909 there was no rail service between Mexicali (godforsaken and at the end of the earth) and Santa Ana, but the Sonora Railway went from Nogales to Guaymas, and from there the incomplete Cananea, Yaqui River, and Pacific Railway continued on to Guadalajara. The railway that went from Veracruz to Mexico City and that served Apan was the Mexico Railway. "Terry's Mexico" mentions the importance of Apan in the Pulque industry, although he was not overly impressed by the purquerias in the cities, of the pulque served there, nor of the borachos who bought their favorite liquor for 3-5 cents per liter. Terry gives a good description of the tlachiqueros and the entire pulque making process. When I was in Santiago Tianguistenco, near Tenango and Malinalco, Mex., in 1974, I took a photo of a bunch of inflated pig skins. I didn't know what they were for at the time but they must be used by the tlachiqueros when collecting the aqua miel with an acocote. Is that correct. See, I told you your video had caused me to think about many aspects of Mexico. Anyway, stay well and happy explorations.
Good morning William, every time I read your lines I understand the great knowledge you have of Mexico and as I have always said, we have many Mexicans who do not imagine the value of our history or our peoples and traditions and that gives courage. Some of the haciendas in Apan are being restored to turn them into hotels, but they are losing their originality, and they are only open on Saturdays and Sundays. I promise I will return to Apan to see and take video of some of them, as well as the church. Palm raincoats are no longer used, I got to know them because my grandfather had one and we used to wear it as children to play, they were called "Chinese", the Cuetzalan region is beautiful, I have a video there but I promise to go soon To update information, on Sundays there is a street market and many indigenous people come down from the mountain who still preserve their customs and traditions. It is very beautiful. Of the books you are talking about, please recommend me some with their name and author. I hope you continue very well friend and there we keep in touch, take care.
@@PuebleandoConAlberto Hola Alberto. I'm glad you think what I have to say is worth reading. I'm looking forward to your return visit to Cuetzalan. I'm sure I could spend 2-4 weeks exploring the area. Have you been to the zona arqueologica Yohualichan? About 15 kms past Cuetzalan off of highway 575. Similar to El Tajin. The area bounded by Puebla to Huauchinango to Tlapacoyan to Jalapa to Tehuacan and back to Puebla could provide enough material for a dozen documentaries. You asked about books. I'm not sure where to start, since my library on Mexico contains 30 feet of books on many aspects of Mexican history and culture. The book I cited in my last comment was "Terry's Mexico" by T Philip Terry. I have the first 1909 edition. At some point the title changed to "Terry's Guide to Mexico". I have a 1935 edition of that. The later edition is a bit updated but is essentially the same. There are also 1922, 1927, 1938 and 1947 editions. Later, after a long hiatus, James Norman took over, completely reworked the guide, and published 1962, 1965 and 1972 editions. There may be a later edition. The 1972 edition was a good guide but by no means all inclusive. Even the best guides miss half of what is worth seeing. Every edition of this guide is at least 800 pages long. Copies of the earlier editions do come on the market (try Abe Books if you can't find a copy near you). The early editions are fascinating as period history, providing insight to life in Mexico more than a century ago. What else? Three internet sites worth knowing about and that I may have mentioned before. The first is "Mexico Cooks!". Not just about food, which I know interests you a lot. Also covers markets, many aspects of culture, architecture, textiles, crafts. A treasure trove of great material. Ever eaten ceremonial tortillas from Guanajuato? If not find out about them on this site. Two more sites, both run by the author Richard D. Perry. "colonialmexico.blogspot.com." and "mexicosmurals.blogspot.com.". Both offer a wealth of information on Mexico's colonial architecture and art. Not everything is covered, but a lot is. If you want to find a specific church go to the very top left corner and type in a church name or a town name, using both sites. I never know what might work, if at all. On the right side of the two sites there is a monthly choice of about 12 years of material. Perry is getting old and is starting to wind down new additions but there is much to savor. The latest offering includes the Church of the Nazarene in the town of Jesus Maria, Aguascalientes. It has a baroque era retablo mayor, perhaps originally intended for the cathedral in Aguascalientes City. Under the blog on murals there are some photos of the painted nave (ceiling, walls) of a barrio chapel in the town of San Juan Teotihuacan. It also has a beautifully carved facade. All three blogs have been posting for at least ten years, so it will take ages to see everything. If you like books Richard D. Perry has written several on the colonial Architecture of Mexico, all paperback so relatively reasonable in price. "Exploring Colonial Oaxaca", "Mexico's Fortress Monasteries", "Maya Missions: Exploring Colonial Yucatan", "More Maya Missions: Exploring Colonial Chiapas", and Blue Lakes and Silver Cities: The Art and Architecture of Colonial West Mexico". Of considerable interest to anyone interested in Hidalgo is the "Catalogo de Construcciones Religiosas del Estado de Hidalgo...1929-1932", Luis Azcue y Mancera and Justino Fernandez, printed 1940, Talleres Graficos de la Nacion, Mexico, 2 volumes. A monumental, elephant-size folio work covering every religious building in the state. Plans, photos, renderings. About 34x24x11 cms. Heavy but really fascinating, seeing all of the old rural churches that had thatched roofs. Rare and hard to find, but copies do show up in Mexico every so often. Let me know what you are interested in, and I'll see if I can recommend some additional books. You mentioned the people coming to the market in Cuetzalan. If you are interested in traje indigena I can suggest a few books on that subject. Happy reading and exploring. Stay well.
me gusta mucho
Que bien , saludos
El mejor pulque del mundo mundial Apan hidalgo
Asi es amigo saludos , suscribete
Para nada, yo fui ayer y l no encontré ningún lugar que vendieran pulque, los mismos lugareños dicen que ya no lo hacen, fui de en balde, ya se me hacía agua la boca de probar el pulque y no hay nada, ya no lo hacen
Tiene razón , ya no es como antes
Bueno, y porqué no entraste a esas haciendas?, para ver saber cómo comprar pulque al por menor, la verdad yo fui para comprar pulque y me fui de ahí muy decepcionada
Ese es otro problema , que la mayoria de haciendas ya son muy particulares y no dejan entrar , inclusive la primera vez que fui iba emocionado porque iba a conocerlas pero para nada , para buen pulque y con seguridad hay todos los dias ve a singuilucan Hgo o a Tepetlaoxtoc Edomex.
No se porque le dieron el titulo a apan del pulque si en tepeapulco empezaron a hacerlo
Talvéz por el paso del tren figuraba mas a nivel nacional
Hermano, tengo una duda porque le pusieron al pueblo que está muy cerca de apan.
veloz
Muchos dicen que era xque pasaban los trailers veloz, la verdad estaría jenial que isieras un video
Veloz? Ah caray , no habia escuchado ese lugar , deja investigo amigo
@@PuebleandoConAlberto Buen día!! Usted hace mención en el vídeo , sobre las haciendas que aparecen ilustradas en las letras , una de ellas es la hacienda Zotoluca (Veloz) .
Ah mire que bueno que nos ilustra con ese dato y usted sabe porque le dicen o se llama velóz?
Me trajo muchos recuerdos 😍
Que bueno amiga , suscribete
El último concierto de Pedro infante fue en apan hidalgo
Interesante
Arriba el altiplano Hidalguense
Salud con un buen pulque y una rica barbacoa
Saludos se Alberto
Claro amiga , víva Hidalgo
APAN HIDALGO,PRINCIPAL PRODUCTOR DE SEBADA PARÁ LA INDUSTRIA CERVECERA,.
Intetesante amigo
Más bien cuna del pulque,
Orale
Ya no hacen pulque