Yes please I'd like to see how you do that soldering! Not because I anticipate ever needing to myself but a) you never know and b) I'm just interested in that kind of stuff!
Wow. So, in reality, there is no reason why TVs today couldn't be configured to use a removable form of the eMMC chip so that if one ever failed, it could be easily replaced in the field by an end-use or by a field tech. Very interesting! Thank you for this great video. Really well done.
I'd also be interested in your offer about soldering BGA parts without stencils. Particularly how to check that all the balls are soldered properly. I have a 0.4mm WLCSP BGA part on some boards that have been problematic. Thanks for this informative video!
Hi, I really love your job here. Would it work for UFS 3.1? I am having a broken Android phone, and lot of memories of my Dad there I need to restore. Please reply and give some lights. Thank you.
Nobody can technically explain how these cards are able to do what they do. Only general descriptions of what they do and some loose talk about memory basics but never detailed answers. I've searched for years for detailed explanations but none exist.
I haven't looked into that so far so I can't tell but I think the question is interesting and might be worth pursuing this in a separate video. Thanks!
Do you know if this will read the BGA 153 emmc chips of Nintendo Switch including 32 and 64G versions using linux to dump the boot0, boot1 and rawnand partions?
Nice idea, today i reflowed a 64G chip and after the 4th try it worked. With every addition reflow one or more io pins started to connect. Without the protection diode check it would be very hard. Maybe I should order a better flux. What capacity do you use on C1 and C2? Do you use the same capacity for both ?I used 220nF. Greetings from Vienna.
Also you say you can solder your emmc on these adapters and recover data, but what’s with people saying now days the emmc is encrypted?? Will this still work for a 2019 phone emmc to recover data?
If i take off eMMC from Motorola one vision and solder it to exactly same model Motorola One vision. Wil the eMMC with existing data work on new Motorola one vision?
If I were to use this board to attach an emmc with a preinstalled android version from a random smartphone brand such as Samsung, LG, Nokia or other and install the board inside a raspberry pi 4 SD card port, will that boot as it should do in theory?
Man this is cool. Could possibly ask what you think. i have an Sandisk SDINBDA4-64G . soldered to an unrepairable chromebook. Do you think i may be possible to remove and solder it to a pcb like this to recover data (baby photos)? In syd hopefully i can find a tech with the skillset edit. on the pinout grid* sandisk ** on store pcb WFBGA153. 3.G * NC ** RFU 5.E * QRDY **RFU 5.H * RCLK **DS 6.K * NC **RFU 7.A * NC **RFU 8.E * NC ** RFU 10.K *VSF4 ** RFU
I would suggest sending it in to a professional data recovery shop. Don't limit yourself to local, you can also ship it internationally. This is not a trivial task, special equipment might be needed to recover your data.
I don't have much experience with smartphone repair world. If it's one of these separate eMMC chips, electrically it should be the same interface, we just need a different adapter board. However if they are using a "sandwich" of CPU+RAM+FLASH it could be a different interface and the information could be encrypted. There are a lot of variables here.
As exemple... in high speed data, if track lengths are not the same, clock or data signal will not match and will create errors created by delays of the longest track. This can be corrected in software, but will result in lowering the speed.
The higher the speed on these buses the higher tolerances you have to meet between clock/data lines so propagation delay starts to play a role. By making squiggly lines you ensure all lines have the same light and so signals propagate through those lines with the same delay (i.e. arrive at the other end at the same time). However in this particular case, given the short distance and the not so high bus speed, they were not really necessary. I just did them as a good measure and for practice purposes.
@@voltlog Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of power consumption of the overall system e.g. rpi with sdcard vs emmc. It's hard to estimate this from datasheet although certainly possible. Recently I was measuring rpi's power consumption with different sdcards and realised they are a big power hog and exceeded my (simplistic) datasheet estimations.
@@AleksandarTrifunovic I haven't looked into that so far so I can't tell but I think the question is interesting and might be worth pursuing this in a separate video. Thanks!
If someone is building an IoT device, they would just solder the eMMC directly on the board, that's the whole purpose of eMMC (embedded MMC) to save space.
Yes we are intrested in the solder technique and the test trick
Yes please I'd like to see how you do that soldering! Not because I anticipate ever needing to myself but a) you never know and b) I'm just interested in that kind of stuff!
Thanks! I will work on that video soon!
Wow. So, in reality, there is no reason why TVs today couldn't be configured to use a removable form of the eMMC chip so that if one ever failed, it could be easily replaced in the field by an end-use or by a field tech. Very interesting! Thank you for this great video. Really well done.
There you are again :) I saw your comment under J.Rohleders video where he changed the chip and thought I remember your comment
BGA soldering would be interesting to see. Especially without a stencil.
Thanks! I will work on that video soon!
@@voltlog did u make the vid?
YES! to a BGA video :) Awesome video as always, thanks for sharing your ideas and tests :)
Thanks! I will work on that video soon!
Show us how you soldered that chip without a stencil?
Sure thing, coming up in a future video.
Great video - but question - which PCB thickness did you use? - Micro SD cards are 0.7mm , PCBWay has only 0.6 and 0.8 mm PCB's! Thankyou
An interesting experiment indeed! Definitely interested in seeing the soldering process (out of curiosity).
Coming soon!
Also interested on you technique for bga soldering! Great vid btw!
Noted! thanks!
Please Voltlog, show us the BGA soldering! Also BTW have you seen piernov's channel too? Some very entertaining BGA soldering videos.
Wow, just took a quick look and the guy was placing BGA balls manually, crazy skills!
+1 for the BGA soldering video.
thanks for the feedback!
I love your English vocabulary
I'd also be interested in your offer about soldering BGA parts without stencils. Particularly how to check that all the balls are soldered properly. I have a 0.4mm WLCSP BGA part on some boards that have been problematic. Thanks for this informative video!
Thanks! I will work on that video soon!
Great video! Is it possible to buy one of these? Where to order?
Niice project. well done.
Thank you! Cheers!
I would like to see your BGA tricks please.
Thanks! I will work on that video soon!
Super tare! sunt mandru de voi :) va dau urmarire
Super 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi, I really love your job here. Would it work for UFS 3.1? I am having a broken Android phone, and lot of memories of my Dad there I need to restore. Please reply and give some lights. Thank you.
Can we get this chip from old smartphone? And can we recycle it Like this?
work without firmware and controller?just solder it on pcb then rock?
Pls, show you soldering technique for BGA
I would like to see your soldering technique. share your ideas.
Coming soon!
Nobody can technically explain how these cards are able to do what they do. Only general descriptions of what they do and some loose talk about memory basics but never detailed answers. I've searched for years for detailed explanations but none exist.
I also would be interested on how much solder BGA package.
BGA soldering video please
excellent..
What about power consumption in an embedded system? Any power management or saving advantages for eMMC over uSD cards ?
I haven't looked into that so far so I can't tell but I think the question is interesting and might be worth pursuing this in a separate video. Thanks!
Do you know if this will read the BGA 153 emmc chips of Nintendo Switch including 32 and 64G versions using linux to dump the boot0, boot1 and rawnand partions?
Would love to see your stencil-less soldering method for this BGA
Coming soon!
Hi, if your PCBs work with UFS 3.0 chips? Like for example samsung S20's flash chip?
I don't think anyone will be able to solder that without a vid, because it looks hard.
Nice idea, today i reflowed a 64G chip and after the 4th try it worked. With every addition reflow one or more io pins started to connect. Without the protection diode check it would be very hard. Maybe I should order a better flux. What capacity do you use on C1 and C2? Do you use the same capacity for both ?I used 220nF. Greetings from Vienna.
I used 1uF on both, because it's what I had around but it's best to follow the manufacturer recommendations. Check the datasheet of the eMMC chip.
Can you make a 169 (16x12)? There is a capacitor in the way. I'd like to test for Sandisk SDIN4C2.
Can you read data from a mobile phone using that?
want to see the technique for emmc soldering ang reballing
Can I suggest not posting your projects if you don't want people asking you about them.
how can i put it on the adapter? It does not fit to the adapter where two lines with connectors are!
Also you say you can solder your emmc on these adapters and recover data, but what’s with people saying now days the emmc is encrypted?? Will this still work for a 2019 phone emmc to recover data?
Part 2 - Soldering: ruclips.net/video/15RFI9wKHq8/видео.html
I'd like to see your technique to solder SMD without mask and paste.
Thanks! I will work on that video soon!
Yes please make that bga video
Thanks! I will work on that video soon!
If i take off eMMC from Motorola one vision and solder it to exactly same model Motorola One vision. Wil the eMMC with existing data work on new Motorola one vision?
Do e-MMC chips have standard pins function assignment or it's not specific?
try its as an 8bit rather that a 4bit, using a eMMc controller
When will these be available again?
Currently waiting for a new batch of PCBs to be delivered. I would say they should be back in stock in about 2 weeks time.
Could this work with ugs bga 95?
can more than one emmc chip be attached on to one pcb board ?
If I were to use this board to attach an emmc with a preinstalled android version from a random smartphone brand such as Samsung, LG, Nokia
or other and install the board inside a raspberry pi 4 SD card port, will that boot as it should do in theory?
BGA Technique video please!
what is the part number of the capacitors?
can i use it on nintendo switch?
Can you dump the data with a regular card reader? Thanks
I successfully did that.
Man this is cool.
Could possibly ask what you think.
i have an Sandisk SDINBDA4-64G . soldered to an unrepairable chromebook.
Do you think i may be possible to remove and solder it to a pcb like this to recover data (baby photos)? In syd hopefully i can find a tech with the skillset
edit. on the pinout
grid* sandisk ** on store pcb WFBGA153.
3.G * NC ** RFU
5.E * QRDY **RFU
5.H * RCLK **DS
6.K * NC **RFU
7.A * NC **RFU
8.E * NC ** RFU
10.K *VSF4 ** RFU
I would suggest sending it in to a professional data recovery shop. Don't limit yourself to local, you can also ship it internationally. This is not a trivial task, special equipment might be needed to recover your data.
@@voltlog thankyoun for the reply. I will take your advice and try to find professional data recovery shop.
can we use a emmc from a android phone for data recovery purpose kindly reply
Good ideea.
I don't have much experience with smartphone repair world. If it's one of these separate eMMC chips, electrically it should be the same interface, we just need a different adapter board. However if they are using a "sandwich" of CPU+RAM+FLASH it could be a different interface and the information could be encrypted. There are a lot of variables here.
watch this once can we replicate or reverse engineer this machine???
ruclips.net/video/36zd627DgkE/видео.html
Anything is possible.
Could someone tell me why are the tracks zigzag like that? Why is that required for the data interface?
As exemple... in high speed data, if track lengths are not the same, clock or data signal will not match and will create errors created by delays of the longest track. This can be corrected in software, but will result in lowering the speed.
The higher the speed on these buses the higher tolerances you have to meet between clock/data lines so propagation delay starts to play a role. By making squiggly lines you ensure all lines have the same light and so signals propagate through those lines with the same delay (i.e. arrive at the other end at the same time). However in this particular case, given the short distance and the not so high bus speed, they were not really necessary. I just did them as a good measure and for practice purposes.
Definitely want to see your kung-fu! I meant, technique. 😊
Coming soon!
Can you test power consumption?
I could test it using my Joulescope but I expect the numbers to match the ones specified in the datasheet.
@@voltlog Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of power consumption of the overall system e.g. rpi with sdcard vs emmc. It's hard to estimate this from datasheet although certainly possible. Recently I was measuring rpi's power consumption with different sdcards and realised they are a big power hog and exceeded my (simplistic) datasheet estimations.
@@AleksandarTrifunovic I haven't looked into that so far so I can't tell but I think the question is interesting and might be worth pursuing this in a separate video. Thanks!
Great concept but little bit too big. For IoT I need very small storage
If someone is building an IoT device, they would just solder the eMMC directly on the board, that's the whole purpose of eMMC (embedded MMC) to save space.
tienes el diagrama y vccq las conexiones amigo
como leer la memoria amigo con que programa
Sir how to download gerber file.
i wish you have an adaptor instead of solder the chip
And vice versa
please sell this on ebay.
usd card
Hack emmc Samsung version 8 gb
Install android on it .
Can i use with gt-i9300 s3 emmc ?
BGA soldering video please