Can we install Windows XP on NVMe SSD? (while using Intel 12/13th Gen motherboard & CPU)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- If you want to install Windows XP SP3 directly NVMe SSD is not as complicated as you may think. This is what you need to do:
1. Download Windows XP SP3 Integral Edition 11/26/2023:
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2. Watch this video, especially the part on how to integrate NVMe driver into a custom Windows XP ISO
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it's a waste of time. XP has not been optimized to be used on SSD's let alone NVME ones
@@zumeria177 What exactly needs to be optimized? You are worried than a 10$ SSD will wear out?
@@roberto88958 XP will not run faster on a NVME drive
I am not a poor panchito like you with chinese crap I mostly only use Samsung PRO drives but don't actually feel a significant difference over a 3.5'' HDD
@@zumeria177 TRIM is actually done now at hardware level, by the SSD itself (the controller will take care) so you don't need to worry about unnecessary wearing. You just need to disable defrag so no data is moved around without a good reason.
@@zumeria177Windows XP runs much faster on ssd than on hdd.
Kind of awesome that microsoft made a 32 bit windows 7 driver for nvme, and that it was backported to windows xp. Amazing! Legacy mode and everything, SCSI device. I've never tried that!
Windows 7 was under warranty when NVME was launched. They had to do it. :) By the way: „Windows 7 End of Life date is 10th January 2023
End of Life (EOL), in software terms, means that a company no longer supports, updates, or patches that piece of software.”
@@max_MXX Let me correct you a bit: Windows 7's EOL ended on January 14th 2020. That's the date when it ceased it's extended support. January 10th 2023 is the date when 7 stopped getting additional security updates.
XP: what kind of power this is!?
The ultimate kind of power😊
MattKC would be proud
Oh yes, I know about .NET and Windows 95 affair. But I don't think many people know that you still can install Windows 95 on latest generation hardware. And now things are looking even better since the software base increased with "thousands" of apps.
@@O_mores Really? How?
Hey, these videos are amazing. However, I'd like to ask for a particular set of "old OS in new hardware", that instead of installing it directly to the hardware, rather through a VM, like KVM (proxmox for instance), or through VMware but without broken sound and horrible disk performance and such. That'll be amazing!
I have hunch that you won't see much VM action on this channel. My 2c. :)
Darn! That is so cool I must say!
Thanks for showing such awesome possibilities! :D
Any time!
This looks amazing! Some day, I will try to install Windows xp in my Ryzen laptop to see if it works
you can install XP for the sake of fun but it's unusable due to the lack of drivers.
better on a desktop as you can add compatible gpu and other cards to make up for lack of drivers, on a laptop you wont be getting to far on anything past 3rd gen i think? maybe 4/5th has gpu drivers idk
Ahhh XP old days. Windows 3.1 and Windows NT 3.51/4.0 Windows 9x, XP and Vista on modern PC. What the music name in the video. Nice video man!
Thanks for watching! The tune is this one: soundcloud.com/c64er/the-alibi-by-laxity
thanks i can play gmod 12 now :)
Great video and this can also work with the VIA Chipset Card and selecting the Microsoft drivers!!!
Thanks! Yes, you can install using VIA 6421 PCI to SATA adapter, the drivers are already included, you don't even need to use Patch Integrator if your computer is
I actually did this the other day with a 9600k z390 chipset.Integral Edition is my go to for xp. What custom iso settings/options would you recommend for ryzen? I havent been able to get that working right. Awesome video.
Hmm... I have a B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 2xxx CPU laying around I will transplant the NVMe from this video there... to see what happens. Intel USB drivers won't work for sure... :)) A while ago, I did install it on my Ryzen 3900X PC but I use a VIA 6421 PCI to SATA card which compatible with any Windows ever released...
This is a really good video. I wish you could show more details about how you found the drivers that you integrated in the disc but it’s still very informative. I do have a question for you. I followed the link to the integral copy of windows Xp and it looks like everything that’s needed is already added to that iso. Am I right on my assumption? Or do we still need to look for drivers to make the install work?
Thank you for the video. I will help a lot of people out. 😊
The ISO you originally download has standard ACPI and no NVME drivers, it's more or less the original SP3 ISO released by Microsoft. Packed with the .ISO there is a folder with lots of subfolders and drivers. You use the Patch Integrator to add the needed drivers and to create a second custom .ISO. That's why you need the original .ISO in the first place, because the content is somewhat standardized and the patch integrator expects certain files with certain versions to be there.
Damn and I thought I was fancy with my 4790K, NVME drive and GTX 780 Ti for my Windows XP rig.
Windows 2000 has ACPI too, which it doesn't work well native hardware on Z97 with NVMe SSD. Just have to use SATA only.
The only, I have to use Win 2000 slipstream installer along with service pack 4 unofficial. While it works well with USB 3.
Do you have a separate USB 3 adapter? I never managed to get USB 3 on Win 2K.
@@roberto88958 As long they are exists legacy controller of the PCIe USB cards, like realtek and maxwell controller
This is the easier option. Try to boot from NVME drive under classic BIOS on older mainboard.
You certainly can do it even on some older motherboards if you really want to, but it's not easy. You can flash the bootrom to a PCI/PCI-E Ethernet card, this way the drive will be initialized and you can boot from it. I knew people who done it this way. I would like to try it - but right now I don't have any PCI-E to nVME adapter.
@@O_mores I bought one myself from aliexpress. They have it very cheaply. It works very well on HP 800G1, but I had to mod UEFI to include NVME driver.
Do You have any links how to proceed with bootrom which You mentioned? (I already did something similar with XTIDE)
Sorry, I don't have any links. A while ago I ran into a topic on vogons.org where a dude flashed his 3COM card with a custom bootrom extracted from a Samsung drive. If I find that topic I will post a link in this thread.
name of the song at 4:56?
Laxity - "The Alibi" soundcloud.com/c64er/the-alibi-by-laxity
Znaleziony program winXp to wirus, instalując go, instaluje się 35 programów. Wysypał mi w10 gdy próbowałem odinstalować programy ręcznie. Wyskakujące okna i tak jakby ktoś za mnie klikał. same akceptacje administratora. Ehh, teraz już muszę jakiś system postawić bo mam roslinke
Wondering if you can somehow do it without burning and using a real CD? I tried bootable USB sticks using things like Easy2boot and failed
I have to check if it works with this specific ISO, but when it comes to XP 32bit you always can install it from DOS and not rely on USB at all. Check this video on how to install it from DOS: ruclips.net/video/xF0ApHpPh-o/видео.html
lol if only I knew some years back.. I ran into that ACPI problem trying to install XP on some very old AMD laptop that I have specifically bought just to install some legacy software, thinking it would surely support XP - heck it even had all the XP drivers posted on the lenovo's website xD - on but in the end I couldn't install it hahaha
You can live without ACPI while still getting some extra perks like multi CPU support by telling XP that you machine is a MPS multiprocessor PC. Or if you are using AMD platform (which might not support MPS if your motherboard is somewhat newer) you can press F7 and it will work in Standard PC mode - more like Windows 98: -> 1 CPU, no hibernation, no soft shutdown... But you still get a functional PC.
Will the same options you chose for patch integrator work with any 12th/13th gen motherboard?
Yes, these options should work with any 12/13th Gen motherboard.
@@O_mores This awesome! Thanks for your immediate response.
regarding the external kingston storage that went in usb, could you have had a bottleneck since you were still using 2.0? or were you already using 3.0?
At 300 megabytes per second we are definitely on the USB 3.0 territory. It's just a patched driver not meant for Windows XP - might gave better results with other Intel chipsets. But considering you don't have to do any fiddling to get USB 3.0 working... it's very good as it is... :)
@@O_mores am I already forgetting the speeds?.. oh boy... well thanks for the clarification
i tired using an NVME drive as a secondary drive in windows xp with that nvme driver from the integral version but whenever id try to run crystal disk mark it could complete the read test but as soon as it would start writing to the drive the system would hard lock. same with just trying to copy files to the drive as soon as the copy would start the system would hard lock. tired with several drives adata/samsung/wd. this was with an older x58 motherboard within a pci-e to nvme adapter card tired a startech one and some no name one made no dif. same thing would happen to nvme drives in a usb encloser to.
What exact driver from Integral Edition? There are 5 NVMe drivers:
Intel NVMe driver v4.0.0.1007
Kai-Schtrom OFA NVMe driver v1.3
Samsung NVMe driver v3.3.0.2003
Microsoft NVMe driver v6.1.7601.23403
Silicon Motion NVMe driver v10.4.49.0
When I made this video I installed XP from SATA first but when I tried to load NVMe driver manually didn't work. Didn't spent much time to investigate so I reinstalled with a NVME ready custom ISO.
@@O_mores i tired the samsung one with a 970 pro. i also tired the microsoft one didn't seem to make a dif.
Installing NVME drivers using Device Manager didn't work for me either. I didn't spent much time in investigating this issue, I rather preferred to perform a fresh install. So my advice is to replicate the steps from this video and make that custom ISO and install XP directly on NVME.
@@O_mores would u be to provide iso u made up with the drivers all integrated ill give it try
@@mraaron1584 Sure, there you go: pinzaru.ro/windows9x/XP_youtube.iso
How do you solve the issue that sometime while downloading drivers XP ask you to insert the service pack disk (or usb in some case if installation was done with rufus)?
So far I didn't get into this situation. But I remember that in the early days of XP (with no service packs) when installing a USB keyboard or mouse - XP was showing up the driver installation dialog - asking you to press "Continue" - while your mouse and keyboard weren't installed yet. I installed XP for a friend using PS/2 mouse and keyboard, I brought him the PC - but he had only USB mouse and keyboard. He called me to bring him a PS/2 keyboard so he can install his USB keyboard...
Do you have one for Windows 95? On a new computer.
Yes, here is a video about Windows 95 on modern hardware: ruclips.net/video/gTaUTx6xPE4/видео.html
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Doc Brown: I foresee two possibilities. One: it may create a disequilibrium which might be fatal at high RPM. Or two, the encounter could create a time paradox, the result of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space-time continuum and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's worst-case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.
Do you use Snappy Driver Installer Origin?
Actually I'm not using it very often, but it's nice tool, I especially appreciate it because it's portable.
Would you be able to do some trickery with some bootloader software like clover to force win 7 and xp to run on efi only setup with no CMS support? That would be legitimately useful since cheapo laptops and chromebooks only support efi but would still be pretty good for all the legacy software that doesn't run on win 8 or 10. I tried to follow some tips I found online but never managed to force win 7 to run on efi-only setup but supposedly it is possible
Yes, Windows XP can run on UEFI by using some very unsupported patches... But this not my thing because I always have CSM enabled for Windows 98. Anyway making a video about XP & UEFI is on my list now...
I’m fairly certain you could use SeaBIOS for that. EFI -> GRUB -> SeaBIOS -> DOS
Talking over constant music makes it very hard to pay attention to the narrator!
Noted, but in this particular video there is only a tiny portion with voice and music. Usually I prefer not to mix them.
Hello Omores
cool video!
I'm glad you like it!
Hi Omores
Great video!
Wanted to see hardcore gaming ❤
What is hardcore gaming? :)