Zamora: Spain's Architectural Treasure Unveiled

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024

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  • @spainspeaks
    @spainspeaks  3 года назад +2

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  • @margaretbutterworth8162
    @margaretbutterworth8162 3 года назад +11

    I passed through Zamora while walking the Camino a few years ago. I stayed a couple of days to visit all the Romanesque churches. The graffiti problem seems a lot worse now. I live in Perth, which is hardly affected by the graffiti issue. This is because professional graphic artists have been employed to work on big murals on the sides of large buildings. Ditto in regional areas where they produce paintings on grain silos. One such artist is Amok Island, born in Amsterdam and based in Fremantle. BTW, your travel videos would be better if you did a "behind the camera" commentary, so that we could focus more on the buildings being described. No offence, just a suggestion!

    • @rayvogensen2983
      @rayvogensen2983 3 года назад +1

      You are lucky in Perth. You mentioned professional graphic artists. These "grafiteros" are neither professional nor artists. They do it to leave tags so their friends can see it. Why I don´t know. In our town in Portugal a few days after the new pedestrian bridge was opened over the local river an artist called Akoni left his name in huge letters on the white paint for all the world to see. Recently, on the Monument to the Discovery in LIsbon a French "artist" scrawled a sentence in broken English (covering 20 meters) all across the base. The government had to pay 2,300 euros to have it removed. This French tourist is back in France and most likely will never be prosecuted for her crime.

    • @javibarcenas5661
      @javibarcenas5661 3 года назад

      @@rayvogensen2983 it's vandalism, no more no less

    • @Fili2009able
      @Fili2009able Год назад

      Where is Perth located ? Spain ? My wife and I are looking for a nice place ( not Hot weather ! we have been suffering Hot weather in Atlanta, Ga. for over 25 years ! today is only 79 F 7;30 pm ... anyway we have to run the A/C night and day

  • @lindabiegenwald5924
    @lindabiegenwald5924 3 года назад +8

    Its sad to see all that graffiti on those ancient buildings

  • @gabriellarosa5015
    @gabriellarosa5015 3 года назад +5

    It is great to see you on the road again! Thanks for sharing this beautiful city with all of us!

  • @rayvogensen2983
    @rayvogensen2983 3 года назад +7

    A great, small city. A trip to this overlooked architectural jewel has been long coming. Zamora is connected to Madrid by train, which takes about one hour thirty. By the end of the year the Zamora-Ourense high-speed line is due to open. That will be a spectacular trip with kilometers of bridges and tunnels since it is a very mountainous area. I can hardly wait to try it out.

    • @welshtoro3256
      @welshtoro3256 3 года назад +1

      Hi Ray, great to see you comment on this one. I made the point in my comment that this is such a welcome vid for us old school viewers.

    • @javibarcenas5661
      @javibarcenas5661 3 года назад

      Travelling at high speed you won't have much time to see the views
      Try the narrow truck train from Oviedo to Galicia that goes all along the coast

  • @davesaunders7080
    @davesaunders7080 3 года назад +3

    Agree with you regarding the blight that is graffiti, terrible to deface those old buildings. They should ban spray paint containers or somehow limit them to responsible users.

  • @AdventureElliot
    @AdventureElliot 3 года назад +4

    I love watching your city tours Stuart. Extremely informative and you’re phenomenal at keeping attention throughout the whole video.. not easy to do. Also behind the scenes what people don’t see is how many kilometers you probably walked to film this video albeit a smaller city. Travel Vlogging is great exercise.

  • @evelynhay5693
    @evelynhay5693 3 года назад +3

    Zamora what a lot of beautiful buildings so lovely 🤗🤗

  • @albertoferreiro4935
    @albertoferreiro4935 3 года назад +4

    Having spent 30 years at the University of Salamanca in the summer teaching (1989-2019, I sometimes would get away to Zamora, lovely city, a must see in the region- do not forget to eat the famous Arroz Zamorano, will knock your eyes out

  • @77drewesq
    @77drewesq 3 года назад +3

    It's beautiful in Zamora isn't it? It is a city but with a large town vibe, not too big and not too busy and no one seems in a hurry! I cycled through it when doing the Via de la Plata from Sevilla to Santiago. The whole of Castile y Leon was a privilege, so much so, I've flirted with moving there; with more manageable summer temperatures then here, between Málaga and Granada. The only thing that really puts me off is how you describe the area to have "long, bitter winters" not sure I can handle that!

  • @DeeVeeJee
    @DeeVeeJee Год назад

    Thank you for your kind words. From a "Zamorano"

  • @timothyrobson3325
    @timothyrobson3325 3 года назад +2

    The quietest Spanish city I have ever visited. At least during the heat of the afternoon. There was no one in the street.

    • @craphead9842
      @craphead9842 3 года назад +1

      TR... Thats because everyone is eating and drinking nothing else to do I would assume... Regards Tony (cuenca)

    • @timothyrobson3325
      @timothyrobson3325 3 года назад

      @@craphead9842 sleeping. Cuenca in the afternoon is pretty quiet too.

  • @theSSHITT
    @theSSHITT 3 года назад +2

    Thank you very much for this lovely video Stew! More of these please! It was just wonderous. We also love that you fearlessly gave your opinion about the grafetti. We hate grafetti but love street art. We think it's very disrespectful to deface public historical monuments and private small businesses. These buildings are maintained through hard earned tax dollars that the Spanish citizens have had to part with even when salaries are so low. It must be hard for them to make that sacrifice, but it's so important to maintain your history. And the architecture is so impressive that it is almost an artform in itself. I would be so proud and want to maintain these magnificent gems. And it's difficult to open a small business and maintain it especially during a pandemic.Taxes and regulation is high, profits, I imagine are low. So when we saw two young people grafetting a small business in our neighborhood, we recorded it and showed it to the police. We commented that we did so on one of your videos. A commentor compared us to a fascist friar who reported disloyal citizens. He left a few comments in response to us that seemed like thinly veiled threats. And I think the comparison was unfair. Keep up the good work Stew and never be afraid to espouse your point of view and values!

    • @mikegowers9809
      @mikegowers9809 3 года назад +1

      Nice video Stuart but spoiled by graffiti in cultural, historic place. However it's not the first time I've noticed this when touring Spain. The culprits need some good "vimbio" at the very least or up before the judge and told to remove their hideous work. It's not as though any of this so called graffiti/ artwork is a "banksy". A real shame because as mentioned the local tax payers end up paying for it to be cleaned.

  • @susanoram2754
    @susanoram2754 3 года назад +3

    Just watched your video sat outside in the mountains in Murcia with my boyfriend (I live in England and sadly going home on Saturday). David introduced me to your videos and I find them absolutely fascinating and so informative. Keep up the good work 🙂

  • @jdmortega9121
    @jdmortega9121 3 года назад +2

    Stuart I was studying there for three years from 1966 1969 , in an university for children of working people fully paid by the state , what a good times ! Have you seen the romanic churches so well restored , Viriato monument, the Cathedral , Santa Clara Street all along , River Duero which flows at Oporto.....Zamora the land of bread and wine ....North Zamora is Sanabria lake simply amazing It looks like very much Nech Lake in Scotland surrounded by great mountains the glaciar lake biggest in Spain over 1000 meters above the sea level ! Western Zamora are our portuguese brothers .....if you go to stay don't go AC MARRIOT hotel , NH or Parador Nacional are quite better

  • @Yocambio
    @Yocambio 26 дней назад

    It's interesting that Zamora was important enough at one time to have its own bishop and, thus, a cathedral. Would be curious to learn more about the history of Zamora.

  • @melissasirois1508
    @melissasirois1508 3 года назад +2

    Only CYL capital I haven't visited yet. Looking forward to a trip there.

  • @Frisbeeninja2
    @Frisbeeninja2 3 года назад +1

    Great Video! Keep up the good work, I like these style videos showing off these less known towns!

  • @billtaylor7070
    @billtaylor7070 3 года назад +4

    What a beautiful city. You would think they could make an effort to clean off the graffiti though.

  • @jacobzamorano8483
    @jacobzamorano8483 4 месяца назад

    Nice to see where some of my ancestors came from

  • @prasunchoudhury8711
    @prasunchoudhury8711 2 года назад

    I am visiting Zamora in Jan'22; magnificent video of Zamora!

  • @rickdeckard7470
    @rickdeckard7470 3 года назад +2

    I'm chilln now in a small village outside Penafiel enjoying some of Spain's best wines 🍷 and bodega.. maybe your next video?

  • @aftp6646
    @aftp6646 3 года назад +2

    The location of Madrid was chosen purely because it is right in the center. Barcelona is on the Mediterranean just like other historical cities such as Marseille or Genoua.
    Sevilla has the Guadalquivir which was the only navigable river in Spain. Valencia had the Turia running through the city. I don't think it was navigable. The same goes for Zaragoza and the Ebro.

    • @franzzappa5813
      @franzzappa5813 3 года назад +2

      Madrid was selected by Felipe II because it was the best place of Castilla and the favourite town of his daughters. Best weather, lot of game, clean and abundant water, and no bishops.

  • @virginiafeliciano9318
    @virginiafeliciano9318 3 года назад

    So nice to see you out and about and sharing the beautiful places that you visit. Thanks for sharing and stay safe 🙏🏻

  • @sgoverno1352
    @sgoverno1352 3 года назад

    Thanks for taking time to share the beautiful city views at the end of the video.

  • @anonymouse1309
    @anonymouse1309 3 года назад +2

    Were going for the record of how many times you can say "city"?

  • @GuillermodeSimon
    @GuillermodeSimon 3 года назад

    Great video as always, Stuart

  • @rubytuesday7225
    @rubytuesday7225 3 года назад +1

    Hola Stuart. Gracias for today's video of Zamora. Looks a lovely place to go. Shame about the graffiti. Hope all ok. Take care and stay safe. xx

  • @Sweetnopalito
    @Sweetnopalito 4 месяца назад

    I’m from Zamora, Michoacán. I just found out we were colonized by Spanish settlers from Zamora, Spain! I always wondered who I looked like since my whole family is light skinned with colored eyes and blonde hair.

  • @Lacuto67
    @Lacuto67 3 года назад +1

    It’s so good to see you doing the travel vlogs again Stuart. You recent videos of your road trip visiting towns and cities along Douro river and ending in Zamora has inspired me to do something similar. Just one question, do you have any recommendations for any bodegas I can visit or wines I can buy?
    Thanks for showing us around this beautiful city, keep up the good work.

  • @MaestroPdx
    @MaestroPdx 3 года назад +2

    I studied in Zamora in College. Great town, easy to get around.

    • @d.c.sodyssey4783
      @d.c.sodyssey4783 3 года назад

      do you know if there's a comercial bus and train station in Zamora to and from Madrid or is this area mainly accessible by car.

    • @MaestroPdx
      @MaestroPdx 3 года назад

      @@d.c.sodyssey4783 there is a Renfe train station to Madrid. Also regional busses.

    • @d.c.sodyssey4783
      @d.c.sodyssey4783 3 года назад

      @@MaestroPdx -- Thanks!

  • @fanjan7527
    @fanjan7527 3 года назад

    I wish fewer governments focus so much on tourism stimulation. It's the low hanging fruit...it is making money out of old things...nothing wrong with it. But you end you creating cities for tourists, not for the population. Rather incentivize other industries, especially industries related to a future (whatever your belief of climate change is, I don't mind) that has a little pollution and thriving small cities with rich culture and bustling little economies.
    Thank you for the video Stuart. Look forward SOOOO much to finally move to Spain, build a life there so that I can explore these cities and towns in Spain.

  • @janetlombardi2314
    @janetlombardi2314 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for showing us another part of Spain Stuart it looks beautiful. I really enjoy these videos

  • @davidwatts968
    @davidwatts968 3 года назад +2

    So many places plagued by graffiti, many
    Parts of Spain has graffiti which spoils so many places if they be historically
    significant or otherwise. There should be
    a campaign started to get areas cleaned up. Many tourist avoid areas where there is a lot of graffiti, this is not good for tourism when we need it more than ever.
    Gracias Stuart

    • @aftp6646
      @aftp6646 3 года назад +1

      It's a Southern European problem. I love streetart but dislike tags.

    • @davidwatts968
      @davidwatts968 3 года назад +2

      @@aftp6646 indeed. There is such a big difference between street art and graffiti.
      Italy is worse. People should have respect for other peoples property, but they generally don’t. If some of the graffiti was more art, it would not be so bad.

    • @aftp6646
      @aftp6646 3 года назад

      @@davidwatts968 It seems somehow accepted to destroy other's people's property even if concerns a centuries old building. It has become part of the identity of some cities.

    • @davidwatts968
      @davidwatts968 3 года назад

      @@aftp6646 yes sadly.
      I have my base in Torrevieja and we have
      a lot of graffiti really. There seems to be less in the Canary Islands, but even there they have some.
      A great shame

    • @johnrooney507
      @johnrooney507 3 года назад +1

      Youth with few activities available? I don't understand wanting to make your own town look trashy.

  • @wendymiles4910
    @wendymiles4910 3 года назад +2

    Zamora looks very beautiful and interesting. Another for my list of places in which to pass a few days. Soria is another town on the Duero where Antonio Machado wrote Campos de Castilla and lived with his young wife Leonora. So much history and culture to enjoy.

  • @bjarneholen
    @bjarneholen 3 года назад +2

    Superb to have Stuart on a town walkabout again, great stuff!

  • @Maryann110
    @Maryann110 3 года назад +1

    Really enjoyed your tour of Zamora. Lovely historic city. I’ve added it to my Camino list. Please continue to bring us these terrific videos. Thank you! 😎

  • @suzannederringer1607
    @suzannederringer1607 3 года назад

    Interesting, Stuart! Beautiful city.
    Thanks!

  • @kenwarburton2578
    @kenwarburton2578 3 года назад

    Another excellent report Stuart, and yet another potential place for myself and others to visit. I hope you manage to do more of these visits in the future, to bring these characterful cities, towns and villages to our attention.

  • @alibelula9269
    @alibelula9269 3 года назад

    Fantastic video, good job Stu!

  • @d.c.sodyssey4783
    @d.c.sodyssey4783 3 года назад

    This is excellent Stuart , seems very relaxing.

  • @anderzamora2182
    @anderzamora2182 2 года назад +1

    No soy español y tengo el apellido de la ciudad Zamora 😆
    Pero hermosa ciudad enserio 😍 Beautiful city.

  • @margaretgarigan
    @margaretgarigan 3 года назад

    That was lovely!

  • @martindouglas9839
    @martindouglas9839 Год назад

    Mil gracias por el video Stuart menú del día my wife Sylvia was given a bottle of wine with her meal today. 13 euros 🎉

  • @IBENF
    @IBENF 3 года назад +2

    Neither are there many canals in Spain.

  • @NickyDunn
    @NickyDunn 3 года назад

    Hiya Stuart, nice to see you out and about. Beautiful City. Thank you for sharing. Have a good evening. Take care.

  • @simondeath6298
    @simondeath6298 3 года назад

    When the ball hits yer head and you're sat in row Z - That's Zamora

  • @debbiegarza1287
    @debbiegarza1287 3 года назад

    Loved the tour, thanks. Do people not swim in the rivers there?

  • @MikeT-yy3
    @MikeT-yy3 3 года назад +8

    Like in other spanish regions, make the people claiming benefits work. Everyone here could be employed cleaning away graffiti

    • @jdmortega9121
      @jdmortega9121 3 года назад +1

      What reason you have , in this lost society is all consented ....you Know how this country works , Madrid pays rest of communities and theses do nothing innovative , Cataluña being bigger and with more people nor half , its problem is the money , Basque and Navarra don't pay anything being two rich regions , Spain has become a circus , and Im afraid UK is not what It was unfortunately , It goes the same direction

  • @MONICAANICA
    @MONICAANICA 3 года назад +1

    Wow. Fantastic arhitecture....Romanesque?...WOW

  • @Fili2009able
    @Fili2009able Год назад

    What about hotels to stay or furniture apartments for rent ?

  • @pmcolon
    @pmcolon 3 года назад

    Hi Stuart. Thanks for sharing this beautiful city with us. We get to travel virtually through your camera lens. What a shame to see all the graffiti defacing these beautiful buildings. Too bad those "artists" couldn't be sent to Singapore for proper rehabilitation.

  • @stevo728822
    @stevo728822 3 года назад

    I've had a go at making GoPro videos. I've discovered that moving, thinking and talking is a challenge. I know Stu edits his videos but he makes it look easy.

    • @javibarcenas5661
      @javibarcenas5661 3 года назад

      It depends on the person. He is the type of person who can do a few things at the same time. Some other people like myself can't. If I drive and talk at the same time I start to lose my concentration!

  • @MONICAANICA
    @MONICAANICA 3 года назад

    Thank you Stuart for using so many times the expression " second to none"....I googled it ""If you say that something is second to none, you are emphasizing that it is very good indeed or the best that there is."''... I learned something today....before I was thinking that the meaning of this expression is the exact opposite....😗😍😄Maybe to educate us in englis & spanish of a daily expression. Thank you 😍

    • @joseantoniodavila2752
      @joseantoniodavila2752 3 года назад

      second to none
      just number one
      top of the list
      head of the heap
      king of the hill...
      Zamora, Zamoraaaaaa =)

  • @vesprimavera1203
    @vesprimavera1203 3 года назад

    Very beautiful! 💖

  • @barbaraneville5036
    @barbaraneville5036 3 года назад

    Ideal way to get about if you want go sight seeing is E Bike takes the strain out of going uphill

  • @sandratessem9980
    @sandratessem9980 3 года назад

    We stayed at the Paradors in the 1980 and it was 35 dollars a night

  • @martindouglas9839
    @martindouglas9839 3 года назад

    Muchas gracias por el vídeo Stuart Zamora looks really interesting.we have a place on the Costa Almeria its lovely but one day we will probably fancy a change.what cultural areas would you recommend on the coasts.av a gud un Mart

  • @sharonnewton3760
    @sharonnewton3760 3 года назад

    What a beautiful and amazing place! Thank you Stuart for showing us around. Do River cruises operate there?

    • @TheManzanita09
      @TheManzanita09 3 года назад +1

      Unfortunately no. But there are some small boats that you can use for an hour. It's completely free and very romantic, I have to say. I'm from Zamora myself and luckily enough, I'm still living here.

  • @wicklawalker9495
    @wicklawalker9495 3 года назад

    What a beautiful city 😍 what is the closest airport? For accessibility from other countries in Europe... Thanks again for all your informative videos Stuart x

  • @devalmar7876
    @devalmar7876 3 года назад

    Do you think cities in Spain are beautiful? I mean, compared to other cities in Europe.
    Thank you!
    I love your videos.

    • @johnward374
      @johnward374 3 года назад

      Hidden gem. Lviv Ukraine.

    • @Gerard_2024
      @Gerard_2024 3 года назад

      @@johnward374 Shush ! Don´t tell everybody. Keep it secret ! Eastern Europe is magical.

    • @javibarcenas5661
      @javibarcenas5661 3 года назад +1

      Better than most of the rest of Europe

  • @siemprestruggle9272
    @siemprestruggle9272 3 года назад

    Are there any buses that take you to Lago de Sanabria and bring you back to Zamora?

    • @joseantoniodavila2752
      @joseantoniodavila2752 3 года назад +1

      There are buses and a train.
      turismosanabriaDOTes and then "transporte".

    • @siemprestruggle9272
      @siemprestruggle9272 3 года назад

      @@joseantoniodavila2752 Thank you very much Jose, much appreciated. It seems there aren't many buses throughout the day so have to get the timing right! Thanks again

  • @rajahrufus8735
    @rajahrufus8735 3 года назад

    Yeah, Zamoranos are friendly.

  • @stefanobiagini1647
    @stefanobiagini1647 2 месяца назад

    Mi piace

  • @CynicalLemonade
    @CynicalLemonade 3 года назад +1

    Excellent travelogue on Zamora. Like most people at whom graffiti isn’t aimed, I find it mostly atrocious but I think it’s about a generation putting its mark on a place it hasn’t got any other means of influencing. In my home city, town planners destroyed much more of historical and architectural value after WW2 all in name of progress than a few idiots with car spray do nowadays. Councils see ‘the youth’ as a problem but if they found ways to engage young people rather than demonising them, they might tackle the problem more effectively. Support young people with meaningful and paid opportunities to contribute to civic life and there might be fewer graffiti tags on the walls. It’s all a matter of perspective.

  • @stefanobiagini1647
    @stefanobiagini1647 2 месяца назад

    Ci sta Sandra maillo pelaez

  • @spencertaylor6330
    @spencertaylor6330 3 года назад

    When you're sat in row z and the ball hits your head thats zamora. That's zamora.

  • @juanmarcosortega5417
    @juanmarcosortega5417 3 года назад +2

    I know Zamora and the people there quite well and although the old part of the city may seem quite romantic and the high street (Santa Clara) quite peaceful and serene with people walking up and down ad infinitum BUT there is a hidden sinister side to this city which is not apparent until you live there some time and really get to know the people there. My experiences living there was nothing short of an absolute nightmare, extended family committed a fraud on a 97 year old relative of mine there and then attempted to do the same to me, when I rumbled them they ran away and stayed out of my way with zero communication despite them living 5-15 minutes walk away. People there can be rather cruel and narrow minded, the sort of things said and done to me by people would typically lead to fisticuffs in other countries (UK, Germany etc) but somehow people think that they can get away with it there. Gossip seems to be a national pastime there among the older generation, I think they have nothing better to do. In conclusion it's a very provincial town, with high unemployment and lack of opportunities and this leads people to be generally dissatisfied and desperate (hence why attempts to defraud me and my vulnerable members of my family were made). If you are an ex-pat I would not recommend that you live there, you will be seen as a sucker to be taken advantage of and people will lose interest in you as soon as they realize that they cannot pull a fast one on you. You may say "well I know people in Zamora and they're great and not like that" but I received a quick series of several very unpleasant and nasty experiences there with different sets of people (many unlinked to one another) which made it very clear that the place had some very serious social problems which I've never encountered anywhere else in that volume. If you like the isolated Spanish countryside than maybe just maybe it's worth getting a remote holiday home outside of the city but do not live in the city itself.

    • @rayvogensen2983
      @rayvogensen2983 3 года назад +1

      You are the second person to write extensively about family problems in Zamora. I seem to recall that the last one had an English sounding name and could have been English or American. The problems he had were very similar to the ones you mention. Do you know hiim, by chance?

    • @casanova8762
      @casanova8762 3 года назад

      Cuanta maldad tienes..

    • @juanmarcosortega5417
      @juanmarcosortega5417 3 года назад

      @@casanova8762 Deberías decir cuánta maldad he dirigido hacia mí hacia esos estafadores y desagradables en Zamora.

    • @casanova8762
      @casanova8762 3 года назад +1

      ​@@juanmarcosortega5417 Te gustaría que hablasen de esa manera tan repugnante sobre tu pueblo? Por malas experiencias que hayan tenido con X personas vas a hablar así de una ciudad entera y sus más de 60.000 habitantes?
      De verdad, das un asc0 tremend0, y eso que no soy de Zamora.

    • @davedogge2280
      @davedogge2280 3 года назад

      Vete a vivir allí unos meses y empezarás a entender lo que estoy diciendo.

  • @jambroqc
    @jambroqc 3 года назад

    The graffitis are a disappointment. Otherwise,Zamora is enchanting.

  • @coffermartin77
    @coffermartin77 3 года назад

    Can you be arrested for not wearing a mask in Spain?

  • @kellko6094
    @kellko6094 2 года назад

    А возможно без морды снимать, город через очки не удобно смотреть

  • @diogorodrigues747
    @diogorodrigues747 3 года назад

    Zamora is indeed a very interesting city that I still didn't visit!
    PS: Viriato is from Montes Hermínios (Serra da Estrela), not from Zamora. OK, polemic started!

  • @stevo728822
    @stevo728822 3 года назад

    Graffiti is what young people do when there is 40% youth unemployment.

    • @javibarcenas5661
      @javibarcenas5661 3 года назад +1

      Really? Britain also has graffiti all over the place and unemployment is very low

    • @stevo728822
      @stevo728822 3 года назад

      @@javibarcenas5661 Not from my experience of living in the UK. Yes, there is graffiti but not to the extent I see in videos of Spain. In my local town I rarely see graffiti.

  • @thENDweDIE
    @thENDweDIE 2 года назад

    "Thamora"..??
    I hate to be negative, but I hope he's not American...

    • @alvar534
      @alvar534 Год назад +1

      The pronunciation was perfect. The city'S name is Zamora, and we spaniards pronounce z as the english "th"

    • @thENDweDIE
      @thENDweDIE Год назад

      @@alvar534 I know...I damn well should at least. .!!
      _Zamora_ has only been my family name for at least, thirteen generations now...xD

  • @stefanobiagini1647
    @stefanobiagini1647 2 месяца назад

    Ora com'è

  • @stefanobiagini1647
    @stefanobiagini1647 2 месяца назад

    ?