How to Store Wax Frames - Store Wax Frames in Winter - How To Prevent Wax Moth Damage
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- How to Store Wax Frames - Store Wax Frames in Winter - How To Prevent Wax Moth Damage
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I store mine dry. I freeze them and then I put them in a plastic wheelie bin. My super frames fit in nicely in stacked rows. I seal the top of the bin with Duct tape and leave them outside over winter. Works great and I can move them around easily.
That's a great idea!
Can you please share with me how you freeze dry them?
@@paulperrella670 I don't actually 'freeze dry' them, I just freeze them before storage to kill off anything nasty. I dry my frames by putting them back in the hive after harvesting for the bees to clean them. Wheelie bins abe very convenient for storage and you can tape the lid for added security from mice etc.
Excellent timing for me. I'm off to the apiary shortly to take off my super frames. I'm a hobby keeper and only have a few so I'll be able to store them wet in the shed. I'm going to put them in totes and tape round the tops. They will get nice and cold over winter in there.
Great video. Wall paper backing is cheap and effective to place in between boxes while in storage.
Great tip!
Hi Lawrence, I’m with you mate I store my drawn frames outside wrapped up in hessian sacks in my shed up to now I’ve had no problems, the trouble I’ve had this winter is two big golf ball sized holes in the side of a couple of my hives bloody woodpeckers luckily they only got through the insulation I wrap my hives in, never had this problem before in fact I don’t recall ever seeing woodpeckers in my area I’ll have to keep wit’s about me.
Haha! Nightmare. Sorry to hear that mate. Getting balmy in Liverpool!
This is a fantastic video. 10/10. I've always dry stored and had success with it. I wrap my boxes in black plastic and seal up the ends. I re-use the bags at the tail end of the next season. I noticed that the bees LOVE drawn comb and it really is worth its weight in gold. I'm going to try and experiment with wet storing as I found my bees very reluctant to move up.
Cheers Scott. Drawn comb is a beekeepers best friend! Yields go up loads when you have it on tap!
@@BlackMountainHoney you are absolutely correct. When I was receiving my starter course lectures I remember hearing that drawn comb was as good as foundation. It has not been my experience. My packed double brood last year simply wasn't interested when I put my first super on. I was so puzzled why is was cheek by jowl in the brood and barely anything in the foundation super box. My mentor advised taking four out of the super and replacing with drawn comb. WHAT A DIFFERENCE that made.
They packed it out in a few days and started feverishly drawing out the foundation.
Good video, as usual. I don't have a freezer big enough to put my frames inside, so I spray them with Bacillus Thuringiensis to prevent wax moth, then I put them inside storage plastic boxes. It works for me.
Very effective. Although not approved by the VMD in the UK so we cannot use it unfortunately.
@@BlackMountainHoney sorry to hear... Well, your method is much cheaper, and it works too. Regards.
I was just thinking about this the other day and was going to message you but you beat me to it thanks
No problem :D
Awesome advice for the wet frame method. I had been storing my honey frames dry. I alway use a queen excluder so honey frames are not dark. And I thought wax moth wouldn't target those frames. As you said in the video. I was wrong. Coming out from our mild california winter, the frames have some wax moth activities, similar to the ones shown in the video. I wouldn't mind letting the bees clean them up and reuse them for honey. Although I definitely prefer my honey to be as pure as possible. So I might try the wet frame method next year. Thanks!
Best of luck with it
Very cool to know. I luv honey I try them from everywhere I go.
That's awesome :D
I prefer dry method, maybe wet frames deter wax moth but they are a magnet for all other animals around. To eliminate wax moth we need to eliminate things like hot dark environment. Here is how I do it. On the open screen bottom board I put boxses with 7-8 nice dry drawn frames in each.On the top box goes queen excluder. So we have some light on the frames and also air flow throu the column of boxes.Things that wax moth do not like.Mission complited. Of course, boxes are in the shed, as much as possible on dry and cold place, not in direct sun. Frames are also protected from mices and other.Air flow is important so the screen bottom board is not on the ground. It must be separated at least 10 inches and opened.Simply and easy.And works.
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We store ours wet, stored in supers layered with newspapers and stacked in a shed. We put a board at bottom and a board on top
Great method! Do yours do OK?
@@BlackMountainHoney yeah, never had a problem yet
I put mine in the freezer. Works for now, but this summer I’m getting some more hives and then I won’t have space for all the frames.
Yes - freezer works well but you need a big one. Outside is great if it drops below 0c
Store them indoors in a super with wax moth crystals in the centre in a coffee filter... air them outside for 7 days before reusing them
My cellars ideal for storing frames as it gets really cold, just have to get rid of the mice that have appeared.
As for wet frames tempting the bees up why not have enough wet ones to put one in each super come spring and the rest dry...
I always thought cellars didnt get too cold and remained relatively stable. You want a good sharp freeze to kill everything every now and again. Wet storage is good for getting them in the supers but also better for fighting of WM
@@BlackMountainHoney not sure if its the buildings granite construction or just the fact it's below Street level but it's sometimes feels colder inside the cellar compared to the outside temp
Great video. Have you ever put frames in a freezer?
Yes - works a treat but need a big one
Great video.
I have a question could you let the dry frames inside the suppers on top of the hives during Winter? I mean you could put some platic with little holes over the brood box to keep the nest warm and they could go up if they want and also reduce the entrance of the hive? Would this be a possible way to keep the wax moth away?
I think its best to keep them away from the hive as the hive stays warm enough for wax moth to survive and you can lose heat upwards. Nice idea though
Have you ever just stored the honey supper frames wet in an ice chest/freezer then let it thaw and put on the hive in the springs?
Yes. Freezer is safest place for them
Great video. Thanks!
How do you go about giving the wet frames back to the colonies after extraction at the end of the season?
Don’t they start to fill the frames back up with nectar if there is a flow on?
We dont take them off if there is a flow on :D
They only need them on for 24/48 hours and they are taken off again.
@@BlackMountainHoney thanks very much!
I’ve got a big freeze locker rental by the local butcher, here in the Mediterranean nothing else is safe.
That is perfect. Yeah it needs chemicals or constant freeze cycles or they are mush!
Would loved to of seen this video in my first few seasons😂 first season I lost all all frames to moths… in my airing cupboard (that one almost cost me my marriage…. ‘‘Twas disgusting though, second season almost cost me marriage as there was no freezer space for food because my frames were in there😂 now I’ve stored them dry in the shed…
Haha! Outside is definitely best!
I store wet .Stack 8 high 4 stacks on a pallet treated with one sulphur strip per stack shrink wrapped stack two pallets high never get problem
Nice system - there is a real lack of effective approved treatments for wax moth in the UK
@@BlackMountainHoney
The sulphur strips are pretty effective but you definitely don't want to breath in the fumes
Is there anyone researching/ making 3d printed wax foundation drawn comb?
What is the time frame between the bees 'drying' the frame and them starting to use them. I guess if you leave them in too long, you run the risk of them starting to re-fill them.
Yep. 24 -48 hrs max
Where do you store drawn comb during the remaining part pf the year?
Mostly on hives but some still in storage
If sorting wet, would you number your super to go back onto the same hives in the spring or at that point it doesn’t really matter?
That's best practise. We dont do that though.
can you store them in a deep freezer wet
Any problems with small HIVE Beatles.
Not for us as we dont have them and I am not up to speed on SHB storage practises. God I hope they dont come over here any time soon!
If you store wet frames indoors, like in a cool basement , will they mold?
no
Could a old chest freezer set on low be used to store frames over winter ?
Yes. Even better if its turned on!
@@BlackMountainHoney as I said set on low would that survive
Dipel 👍
Very effective. Although not approved by the VMD in the UK so we cannot use it unfortunately.
@@BlackMountainHoney In the same way we don't use oxalic acid in vapour treatments 😉